Fresh install of empires

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  1. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    I've tried all sorts of search paths and AppIDs. I'm fairly certain that Empires is unable to mount .vpk files because it's on Source 2007 and VPKs are from 2013.
     
  2. 101010

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    2006 and 2007 are also vpk
    Start steam then under tools
    You will see source sdk base 2006 and 2007
    Install them. If you have them already then do a fresh install.
    Old in stall was under your user name. New install places them in the common folder. The new install has vpk
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Source SDK Base 2007\vpks

    To install sdk 2007
    steam://install/218

    Then run 1 time
    steam://run/218
     
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  3. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    Do you have any GCF's with "Source 2007" in your steamapps folder? If you do, then it's mounting and getting the content from those and avoiding the VPKs entirely.

    Source 2007 was converted to use VPKs, but the codebase for Empires doesn't support VPKs because you need the filesystem code from the 2013 engine to access them, while Empires is on 2007.
     
  4. 101010

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    No GCFs...In steamapps all I have is folders and acfs
    appmanifest_218.acf - Is sdk 2007

    Other mods that have had this issue have fixed it by changing the gameinfo.txt
    I think it might be the launcher that is messing up empires.
    As running it in sourcemods (without launcher) works fine.

    Also a fix for some mods was adding AdditionalContentId 218 to the gameinfo.txt
    https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Gameinfo.txt
    The AppID of the game the mod is to be based on. The mod will have access to all of this game's content, and will not be playable unless it is installed.
    Tip: For most mods this will be either 215 (Ep1) or 218 (OB), both of which point to different versions of the Source SDK Base.
    AdditionalContentId <int> (MODS ONLY)
     
  5. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    All you're doing with that is running Empires as a mod. That's not really a solution.
     
  6. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    run a mod as mod - how absurd ^^

    (sry i know this wasnt helpful at all=
     
  7. 101010

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    I know but is is a way for people to get in game until it is fixed.
    It also 100% confirms that the GCFs are not needed and Empires as is can use the new sdk vpk.
    lol
     
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  8. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    It didn't work for me yet. :(
    Did what you said and it is now downloading empires again. Looks like it is going to show up as two empires installs.

    edit:
    Didn't work. both installs fail. Steam empires same error... mod empires:
    Code:
    Setup file 'gameinfo.txt' doesn't exist in subdirectory 'C:\Program'.
    Check your -game parameter of VCONFIG setting.
     
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  9. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    With about a half hour of fucking around with the steam install I figured out the exact files needed to run it and the error ID's

    The following list is the files Steam empires is looking for(other then what it installed) and the error code it gives when that file is missing.

    17741 Ver 0 = empires_content.gcf
    17742 Ver 0 = empires_base.gcf
    17743 Ver 0 = empires_scripts.gcf
    206 Ver 8 = source materials.gcf
    207 Ver 4 = source models.gcf
    208 Ver 4 = source sounds.gcf
    215 Ver 1 = source sdk base.gcf
    216 Ver 82 = source 2007 binaries.gcf
    305 Ver 5 = source 2007 shared materials.gcf
    306 Ver 0 = source 2007 shared models.gcf
    307 Ver 0 = source 2007 shared sounds.gcf
    218 Ver 0 = source sdk base 2007.gcf

    /me takes a bow

    edit:
    ohh btw... that is also the order that empires looks for the files.
     
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  10. 101010

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    Since all the the GCF are / was free. Would there be a problem if Empiresmod.com hosted them or allowed people to
    posting links to where you can download them ?
    All combined are about 6.14gb or about 1.7 zipped
     
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  11. wealthysoup

    wealthysoup Lead Tester

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    yes. 6 chars
     
  12. 101010

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    .....what ?

    Also I could make some mini gcfs if needed for all the required
     
  13. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    it means exactly what he posted:

    yes 6 chars
     
  14. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    To expand, yes. There would be a problem if we distributed them. Although they are easily accessible to anyone, it's still Valve's content and Valve still holds all distribution rights for their content. Having no legal or contractual authorization to distribute their content could potentially put us into serious legal consequences if we were to host and distribute it anyway.
     
  15. 101010

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    But what about mini GCFs. They only list content but do not have any in them.
    Like the Empires GCFs.
    As all the content could be just extracted from the VPKs.


    Just trying to help as I know converting to 2013 will take about a year.
    That is a long time to go with not having new people able to easily install and run Empires.
     
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  16. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    We'd still have to either distribute the content directly or post instructions to everyone how to extract the content. That's not curing the problem, that's putting a bandage on the symptoms.

    Plus, I tried extracting all the content on my end and having it mount empty GCFs, still no dice on getting the game to work.
     
  17. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    Does it work at all for you with the gcf's?
     
  18. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    I have the new broken GCF's, all content from the Source VPK's extracted and symlinked so that Empires can find it. It just straight-up crashes.
     
  19. 101010

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    I was just think of something to work until you can convert to 2013.
    So yeah just a bandage.
     
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