Engineer tool shouldn't work underwater

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by BitterJesus, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. BitterJesus

    BitterJesus Member

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    I've just encountered this... well, exploit on money, where the water kills you when you go under. The problem is that if you have a friendly engineer with you you can just whore points as the water is constantly damaging you and you can heal each other.

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    The three offenders are on BE, the enemy team had like 10 rank points at most.
     
  2. PredatoR[HUN]

    PredatoR[HUN] Member

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    I thought you are an admin,why didnt you slay them?
     
  3. Sonecha

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    I guess you never farmed points.
    Edit: That looks quite sexy from a third person view.
     
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  4. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    Finally something fun to do on money.
     
  5. [D3]Leroy Jenkins

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    We had 250 squad points doing that for about 7 minutes and ended up with about 150 points each and an addition of 400 rank points it was awesome. At least its something fun to do on money this isn't really a problem.
     
  6. Jessiah

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    It's not a problem that you easily farmed 250 squad points in 7 minutes? You are an idiot.
     
  7. Kamber

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    I miss when the comm would float in that water.
     
  8. Wilko

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    It's a problem for the team they're on. A squad down most of the game since they were in the water and when the enemy rolled us with nuke heavies, all the whored squad points counted for exactly zip.
     
  9. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    But at the same time it helps get the map over sooner which is great.
     
  10. [D3]Leroy Jenkins

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    Yes jessiah not only is it not a problem its a great thing and in fact ill make sure that we manage to use all those squad points next time. Money is a bad, boring map that always ends with same tank rushes and the same tactics so i don't really care about what happens during money as long as it ends quickly.

    And yes wilko that was true but frankly if we had all started with heal upgrade and got organized a bit faster we would have done it in 5 minutes or less.
     
  11. BitterJesus

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    Not against the rules.
     
  12. yobbo

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    The things people will do to up their rank. :headshot:
     
  13. BitterJesus

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    Actually no.

    I don't think I ever point farmed.
     
  14. o_O

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    Don't touch the epic submarine commander victories, otherwise getting rid of this is fine. Imagine a grenadier with infinite squad points and arty bound to Q, clearly it has the potential to be a problem if used on a real map.
     
  15. -=SIP=-

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    I see no problem with this. You can do the same with an enemy MG turret.
    One engi steps in the fire range of the MG turret and the other heals him. If engi tool is empty change position.
    (OMG! After writing this is see chains of engis in front of MG turrets to farm endless points in the next days. :headshot:)

    And I had a great round at tropicvendetta, where both cv where in the water. So don't restrict the engi tool under water.
     
  16. [D3]Leroy Jenkins

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    This doesn't work on other maps because the water in money instantly starts doing damage and does alot quickly you die in about 6 seconds if you don't get healed so this is problem with money and only with money trust me we tried on other maps but the water in money is the only one that works for this is if i find any more i will let everyone know.
     
  17. Chris0132'

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    Dude I've healed people underwater on plenty of maps and gotten points for it. The most obvious instance was when someone drove the CV into the lake on slaughtered, we kept it alive until we won but people were healing the repairers.

    There's nothing stopping people doing it on other maps.
     
  18. ScardyBob

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    He's saying that you only get squad points really fast on money. Regular water doesn't do damage fast enough to you.

    This might work in the water next to the last flag on escort. That water does damage.
     
  19. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    It might not do damage as fast but it does damage fast enough to drain your calculator power substantially, which is the primary limitation. You can't gain points faster than your calculator power can regenerate. Even if it didn't it's still farming points and it would still allow you to gain points faster due ot constant use of the repair tool.

    The obvious solution is just to remove healing points for environmental damage, that would solve all possible instances of the problem.
     
  20. REX

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    eh wouldnt that also give just as many points to the enemy team for kills ?
     

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