A summary of 90% of all that ever happens in the dev channel

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  1. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    [15:18] <KaneTW> Slow process is slow
    [15:22] <KaneTW> Done
    [15:27] <KaneTW> Crash
    [15:40] <Coffeeburrito> o/
    [15:41] <KaneTW> \o
     
  2. Coffeeburrito

    Coffeeburrito Coder

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    Finally, some recognition for my hard work!
     
  3. Con7con

    Con7con Member

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    Working very hard I see
     
  4. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    Think positive: It ran from 15:22-15:27 without crashing.
     
  5. Mr. Weedy

    Mr. Weedy I will report bugs on the bug tracker

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    Yeah, devs are working hard on Empires stuff so they don't have time to chat on IRC. ;)
     
  6. Kane

    Kane Member

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    That slow process actually was class diagram generation
    Then it was done
    Then I wanted to save
    Then VS2008 crashed
     
  7. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    >:U

    Oh well, trial and error, you know the drill.
     
  8. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Poor kane :(
     
  9. rampantandroid

    rampantandroid Member

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    If you can get a crash dump from that, please submit it...sending those error reports to MS actually do help clear things up.
     
  10. Metal Smith

    Metal Smith Member

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    MS actually responds to crash dumps?
     
  11. Kylegar

    Kylegar Specstax Rule

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    There's some quality quotes from #empiresmod-priv...


    (From a long time ago (Febuarary or March))


    (Coffeeburrito) you know what would be awesome?
    (Extrems) An AI that make music.
    (Beerdude26) Being able to fire ducks from arties
    (Coffeeburrito) something like the walking artillery from C&C3
    (Beerdude26) And whenever it fires it goes "NOT A DUCK"
    (Coffeeburrito) where snipers were required for targetting
    (Coffeeburrito) also duck stuff stopped being funny a long time ago
    (arklansman) we srsly need an achievement called NOT A DUCK
    (@Kylegar) "NOT A DUCK, I'M A DANGEROUS EXPLOSIVE"
    (@Kylegar) yea
     
  12. Headshotmaster

    Headshotmaster Member

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    Isn't 2005 needed to be able to properly debug source engine mods?
     
  13. rampantandroid

    rampantandroid Member

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    If you pragma out a lot of compiler warnings and errors, you can compile source just fine on VS2008. But if you pragma out warnings and errors, then you probably shouldn't be allowed to write code. Pragma is reserved for very special cases.

    As for the debugger...as long as you have PDBs that match the binaries, I don't see what would stop you from debugging source code. And generating the class diagrams should be perfectly fine on VS2008 - all you need to do that is a valid vcproj file or csproj file (or any project file) - might even be able to do it with just the .c/.h or .cs files, but I've never bothered to try.

    Yes. They hold info like the callstack which can help identify the crash. Often times they lack the steps on how to cause the crash, but a callstack can really go a long way. MS doesn't actually send a "response" to you - all identifable information is stripped and/or ignored; the dumps however do get saved off and looked at. Dev div at MS is plenty large and can deal with this. Feedback/bugs I sent in on Win7 using the "Send feedback" wizard, I included my alias and the bugs were logged in my name (thus, I have - or had in some cases - bugs filed against Win7.)
     
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  14. Kane

    Kane Member

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    The point was that the class diagram was of ALL client classes. It was using like... 1g of memory when open... VS did not like that and started doing weird errors. After some time a unhandled exception occured and I forgot about class diagrams. At least I noticed that we need to refactor a LOT. Really too much duplicate code.
     
  15. rampantandroid

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    Well, I think you can generate a bitmap image from the class diagrams and save it off....like I said, if you got a crash dmp, submit it or let me know about it.
     
  16. Kane

    Kane Member

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    No crash dumps were generated. I couldn't save the diagram as an image too.
     
  17. Con7con

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    Sure, just give them the money first then they will think about how much it will cost ya to fix it.
     
  18. rampantandroid

    rampantandroid Member

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    Thick headed people. I hate em. You send the report when you crash, they get a dump, they investigate it. They just don't drop eveything they're doing to look at it....you can't change an app or an OS just on a whim, but they DO look at them and fix bugs when needed.

    What the hell do you think the updates for Windows always are? Or the QFEs for VS?
     
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  19. Con7con

    Con7con Member

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    Sheesh it was just a joke.
     
  20. Jessiah

    Jessiah Member

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    You fail at jokes.
     

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