Flash-Pires / Script-Pires

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  1. Lightning

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    Flash-Pires, a Standalone script modification for empires.


    Features:
    Changed Research + New research
    New vehicles
    Edited infantry combat
    Some other side I'm sure



    VEHICLE CONCEPTS:

    NF MG Tank:
    [​IMG]

    A Light tank with a Machine gun turret much like the APC, has a only a 3-slot MG slot and one less rear Armour, designed as a cheaper alternative to the Light tank that's unlocked from the start.

    NF Tank-APC:
    [​IMG]

    Another early game vehicle, with 5 seats and a light tank turret capable of holding a cannon, 1 slot MG, and 1 slot GL. You can also spawn on it. It has less heat capacity and less armour as a result of these changes.

    NF Med-Heavy:
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    A stop-gap between medium and heavy tank, this tank can mount a 3-slot cannon and 2-slot MG, at the cost of no missile launcher, has medium tank mobility and Armour that sits right between medium and heavy tanks, at the cost of severely reduced heat capacity and weight. Requires its own research after the medium tank.
    - maybe turn it into more of a tank destroyer

    BE Medium AFV:
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    Another stop-gap vehicle, the Empires Medium AFV is an AFV with a lightened Medium Turret ontop, boasting a 2-slot cannon, a 1-slot MG and an extra front Armour plate this research-able early-mid game vehicle can be researched to provide better firepower while other research has to be done or lower cost vehicles are required.
    - maybe turn it into a nimble tank destroyer

    BE Tank Destroyer:
    [​IMG]

    The most heavily frontally Armoured vehicle in the mod, boasting 8 front armour, 3 side and 2 rear, (same total as the medium tank) this beast of an ambusher has a 3-slot cannon and an entire weapon dedicated to its role (see below). At the cost of its mobility and heat capacity over the artillery tank its based on. It can be researched in Advanced Chassis like the heavy tank.
    - change to improved artillery maybe?

    [​IMG]
    - plans to add more weapons, and possibly create unique weapons for each faction - unique ML for NF and unique cannon for BE

    Infantry combat:
    The infantry combat has been redone to encourage better teamwork in squads. i have reduced the max ammo for some classes, buffed resistances, and entirely changed some weapons roles. as an example the Rifleman now has the following:

    NF:
    Assault rifle - good close/med range
    Battle Rifle - good med/far range
    Marksman rifle - sniper rifle

    BE:
    Burst Rifle - 4 shot burst, good for close / med range
    Assault rifle - good for med / far range
    Marksman rifle - sniper rifle

    Marksman rifle is 100% the same for both teams, to make it even. - always feel like this should be the case.

    Each of these weapons is designed to promote a particular play-style, and as such each weapon only has a few spare magazines for it, to prevent the lone-wolfing we see so much in the current empires and make the rifleman be more of a support to his squad.


    These changes may not include everything changed about the weapon

    Shotguns:
    increased potential damage to a target, still working on spread somewhat
    Accuracy Inc perk has no effect on the shotguns accuracy anymore.

    Ranged SMG:
    decreased spread rate to allow for better burst fire at range - may have to be Nerf'd slightly

    Close Quarters SMG:
    -increased damage a little - will probably Nerf other factors to accommodate

    NF Heavy Carbine:
    made it a much more lethal short-mid range weapon, cant remember exactly what i changed at the time of editing, but changes will probably have to be further made

    Marksman rifle:
    decreased mag cap by 1 shot and buffed damage by 10 and increased time before falloff - to make it a much more lethal sniper weapon

    Grenades:
    re added some grenades
    changed some around
    buffed a few values here and there - will have to be further tested

    Shot Pistol:
    Made generally more lethal
    buffed accuracy increase perk

    Engineer Tool:
    buffed base health per unit by 1 to encourage more healing

    NF Weapons in general:
    Re-did most of the descriptions to add a little bit of back story and immersion.

    HMG:
    Renamed to Medium Machine Gun
    Increased ammo to 100
    changed stamina taken per shot from:
    standing - 3
    crouching -3
    prone - 3

    to:
    standing - 3
    crouching - 2
    prone - 1

    NF 50 cal:
    Changed name to Battle Rifle
    Changed visual recoil to be much harsher and more jumpy

    NF Assault rifle:
    Accuracy decrease with each shot increased to reduce effectiveness at range
    Damage decreased to be between the BEAR and BEBR

    BE Heavy Rifle:
    Changed name from Heavy Rifle to Burst Rifle
    fires a 4 shot burst good at medium to short range (may Nerf to 3/2)

    BE Assault Rifle:
    Ammo capacity changed to 22 shots
    Damage increased to be more effective in general
    Fire rate decreased to be a more effective ranged rifle
    Increased erratic recoil patterns.


    PLANS:
    Re-introduce research cost
    nerf vehicles in general - cost - module cost, weight etc
    buff lots of vehicle weaponry
    buff armours to provide "soft counters" to certain kinds of weapons
    Nerf jeeps speed and make them more maneuverable to compensate
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2016
  2. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Just so you know, there was a guy who did something similar back in late 2008 I think, called Empires AU. He had a "riot tank" which was basically a med with an APC turret, capable of 2x2slot MG.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1034763/script files/Empires_AU_V0.26.rar

    It might be of some use to you anyway. Keep in mind that a lot of stuff in those scripts won't be compatible any more as it's from 8 years ago, but the base of it should still be useful. I'm not saying I necessarily think what you're doing has a purpose, but that might be useful to you anyway so have a look.
     
  3. flasche

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    mr. weedy ... or was it mister weedy?
     
  4. Lightning

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    well what do you think of what i've done so far?

    ill also have a dish through those scripts, thanks Trickster
     
  5. Lightning

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    bump - added more stuff
     
  6. Donald Trump

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    For the tank destroyer can the gun still only move up and down?
     
  7. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Yeah actually I should have said that. They're Mr. Weedy's scripts. I think there was a 0.27 version hotfix or someshit but I don't think I have it, or it's buried somewhere on my PC.
     
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    is it just me or BE Medium AFV looks completly hilarious?
     
  9. Lightning

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    yes, its like a ww2 styled tank destroyer, only the gun acts just like the arty tank
     
  10. Donald Trump

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    Okay, ww2 tank destroyers had limited up down and limited side to side. perhaps having the medium afv acting like the German Marder III would serve better?
     
  11. Lightning

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    hmmm, so 3 slot cannon and a 1 slot MG? or no mg. also thinking of how to add further Anti Tank to the NF
     
  12. Donald Trump

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    No MG I'd say, but you need something similar and bulky for NF to have a TD. Perhaps a BE turret on an NF light? Make it like the medium turret on an NF Light and slow it down considerably? Something like this?

    Perhaps the BE Artillery Turret on the NF light?
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Lightning

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    actually made something like that already, called it Frankenstein, will work on making it more sluggish
     
  14. Señor_Awesome

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    Igor fetch me a vehicle turret.
     
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  15. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Mr weedy is now mr die level of "we dont mention his name"?
     
  16. Lightning

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    bump for inf weapon changes
     
  17. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    No not at all. I just forgot to mention his name in the original post. I'm pretty anal about properly crediting people so it was just a bit bad of me to forget.
     
  18. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    I only asked because i remember that someone in the community had a giant grudge against him, just didnt know if it was more common than that.
     
  19. Lightning

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    Bump! a lot more infantry related shit added
     
  20. Z100000M

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    Im not entirely sure if youre trolling with MGLT but the funny thing is with how ridiculously powerful mgs are now, it would be better than standart lt.
     

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