Too few people are playing!!!1

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  1. vipervicki

    vipervicki Member

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    i gave thexa all the maps I have months ago, so stop talking out of your ass. and if you felt the desperate need to insult NUBS in your admin rules and don't understand it was uncalled and no reason for then no point in saying anything further to you.
     
  2. Kidpaler

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    You are still going on that we insulted you? Again, that is NOT an insult. Me saying "Fuck you" is an insult, however me saying "I don't want to be like NUBS and I want proof from you guys before you ban someone" is not an insult. Grow up vicki.

    You lost the argument. No one will see that as an insult because everyone isn't that thin skinned. It wasn't an insult, wasn't MEANT as an insult, and it was simply a way to say "we want proof" and "we openly talk about bans".
     
  3. Ranger

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    @flasche Ye nice eu server. I didn't mean that the main server should be in north america, that's why I didn't talk about regions. One EU and one NA is all we need, both mains, both back ups, watever.

    trump, it was hard to make sense out of the "1" . anyway. one of the problems of empires is that regulars will ask the reason of their ban even when it was obvious what they did and why. then they will cry about not "discussing" (bring it on let's barter) the ban and then ask for evidence.

    I was an admin and I can't think of any bad admins. The admin with most bans was Destroyer and I remember many times people complained. I remember paradox who got gagged etc a lot. Ye so give names, who were the bad admins? Was I a bad admin, did I not ungrief when I had to, did I not switch teams to balance or do votes...? I really don't see how NUBS was bad because the only trouble NUBS had was with specific individual.

    P.S. I saw it as an insult but I don't care. Still think it wasn't nice of you to do something like that. The simple reason is the you undermine NUBS to new players, it's just not nice m8. They would think it was a terrible place of suffering with mingebag admins ragdolling everyone and smashing bodies on walls, then spamming ships in the map to crash the server.

    Edit: fuck you can be either an insult or a greeting, depending on who says it. You don't get to choose what it is. D:
     
  4. Kidpaler

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    I have to go here so I'll make this quick.

    1. Scrat did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. At all. People would be exploiting and he wouldn't do anything. Not to drag his name through the mud, but he even said he didn't want admin. Someone who doesn't want admin, but is admin and then doesn't use the abilities to properly regulate is a bad admin.

    2. LT, from the words of JGF himself "He bans people for being scouts". He told me this after I got angry at him one time for banning a new player for an hour for "griefing" his team for using the last ticket, some guy who was extremely nice to me who I had taught at 3AM the previous morning.


    Again, none of that was an insult and I think it is SO wrong of vicki to try to play victim here when she clearly insulted me first by calling me an asshole. Nothing I said was offensive to NUBS, nothing. I said I don't want to conduct myself like nubs. That isn't an insult, that's me saying I don't want to be like them.

    Also, way to try to bait me to say the admins. And way to remove the people who did actively admin on NUBS and then not tell them why they were removed right after NUBS went down. (Senor, Tama, Destroyer etc). That sure didn't cause some headaches and people feeling down that they were just kicked for no reason.

    Edit: Also don't you try to paint what I said as me saying it was basically the second worst thing ever. It was not even close to offensive so for you to paint it as me trying to say "P.S. I saw it as an insult but I don't care. Still think it wasn't nice of you to do something like that. The simple reason is the you undermine NUBS to new players, it's just not nice m8. They would think it was a terrible place of suffering with mingebag admins ragdolling everyone and smashing bodies on walls, then spamming ships in the map to crash the server." is just pathetic. Nothing even comes close to that.
     
  5. vipervicki

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    and you felt it necessary to talk about nubs in your steam group theres only one reason for that. there are a million ways of telling the admins on wired server what you expect of them w/o talking about nubs.
    and several of us hear a multitude of complaints of the admin abuse on memehouse in fact the esb server owner put up esb for that very reason so the people messaging him with complaints about memhouse have an alternative.

    But yet us adults in the room did not mention that in the ESB steam group
     
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  6. Ranger

    Ranger Member

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    "Also, way to try to bait me to say the admins. And way to remove the people who did actively admin on NUBS and then not tell them why they were removed right after NUBS went down. (Senor, Tama, Destroyer etc). That sure didn't cause some headaches and people feeling down that they were just kicked for no reason."

    Do you mean the steam admin group? I was removed from there too. Then the group was closed. In all history of nubs Tama and Mr. X. are the only ones that lost their admin. Tama was given the reason. Also he was not an active admin since he joined like twice in space of about 4 months.

    About JGS: You were given the chat log from the server time ago that showed, what you say isn't true. It said JGF misunderstood.
    About Scrat: If scrat doesn't want to be an admin then it doesn't really matter if he has it. (He doesn't use it) I don't see how you could have a problem with scrat.
     
  7. Ranger

    Ranger Member

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    Here are the logs:
    (23:41:25) President Donald J. Trump: but LT bans people who don't listen to the com, and bans new people for playing scout sometimes up to a week
    (23:42:01) President Donald J. Trump: Like.. this game has a high learning curve and learning it can be hard. I don't see much educational purposes going on by LT, mainly just frustration at newbies without trying to teach them
    (23:42:15) President Donald J. Trump: I wouldn't make this an issue if it didn't concern me by abuse I have been seing towards noobs who are trying to learn the game
    (23:42:34) President Donald J. Trump: Its no wonder the American population is so low, because people who would get on and learn to play are banned for not knowing how the game works
    (23:54:11) TheCreeper: I think both of us know that isn't true, he hasn't banned anyone for a week.
    (23:54:19) President Donald J. Trump: Talk to JGF.
    (23:54:23) President Donald J. Trump: He will vouch.
    (23:54:26) President Donald J. Trump: He was the one who told me
    (23:54:48) President Donald J. Trump: I have nothing personal against LT, believe me. He has been my greatest asset to testing sounds but he does have a prettty bad temper
    (23:54:55) TheCreeper: While I trust his word, I don't need to ask him. I looked through the entire log and found no bans by him that lasted for a week.
    (23:55:22) President Donald J. Trump: Alright, then JGF lied

    (00:55:48) JustGoFly: He's mixing things up - I never said week long to nubs, I said he has been known to give week long bans
    (00:57:02) JustGoFly: I mentioned to trump that I didn't think I was being heavy handed in the case of that guy last night.
    (01:01:02) TheCreeper: Yeah, I thought so. I looked through all logs and couldn't find any instance of LT banning someone for a week.
    (01:01:09) TheCreeper: all the logs*
    (01:03:22) JustGoFly: lol
    (01:05:32) JustGoFly: LT and I had a very long talk, and he has agreed to try to ignore scouts, just inform them and leave them be
    (01:06:03) JustGoFly: Scouts need a ban to a specific video that explains how bad scouts are - and when they are good.
    (01:06:27) JustGoFly: I scouted the crap out of a nub I was training last night, on BooHous
    (01:09:26) TheCreeper: I'm glad he agreed to try and ignore them, he did seem to get a li
     
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  8. Smithy

    Smithy Developer Staff Member Administrator

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    This.

    I haven't played a decent game since the population split between servers. WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG. ;(



    PS: Y'ALL CRAZY, G4TC WAS THE BEST (JK,EPIC SERVER WAS BEST)
     
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  9. A-z-K

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    • Servers shouldn't mention other servers at all. It's just blatent poor form. Make your rules, do whatever you want. You can say all you want it isn't an insult but it is obvious shit stirring.
    • Stop blaming admins for everything related to game play. Too many people playing scout? Guess what - scout has a scoped rifle and can go fucking invisible. Demand whatever you want of admins on your servers but be realistic. Most of the time any admin action you take garners so much vitriol. Don't like escort? Just go spec or d/c, there is no reason to cry about it because someone hasn't curated your particular evening's map cycle exactly how you like it.
    • Stop being feudal, there is no glory in being a sad little king of a sad little hill.
    The house is burning down and people are fighting over who gets to play with the hose.

    I come here and see all this BS and pretty much don't want to play, anyone who checks out this game and stumbles across these forums is going to be instantly turned off. I know it's not just me that feels that way, this has to be the single worst community cultures I've seen and a complete mirror image of how I remember it when I started playing. If you want to know why server populations are so low you don't have to look across the room, you just have to look at the room. People in the community who run servers, developers & admins set the bar of conduct & there isn't room in a community this size for this kind of nonsense & ego.

    If you want to run a server great; theres nothing wrong with having more servers, but if you won't play on X or Y server it's just a damning indictment of how petty things are around here.
     
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  10. complete_

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    jokes on you because im actually turned on rn
     
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  11. Kidpaler

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    Jesus. Christ. Vicki..

    This wasn't even a public steam group, it's not even advertised. There wasnt even an insult.


    Yes, the logs of Creeper and JGF talking. Boy, had I wish I recorded and saved JGF's chat because he clearly told me that LT banned people for playing scout, otherwise I WOULDN'T have approached Creeper about it and made a big deal about it. I will be recording all Admins and save all chat logs from now on from people within this community. Apparently I came unprepared because everyone in this community already does that.

    So, having someone being an admin and them not performing their admin duties when someone is blatantly exploiting on District in the 2 story house and getting revived behind the wall and them not doing anything isn't a bad admin? What?

    So, how about Vicki when she blasted Memehouse for "poaching" when no one did it? On a public shoutbox. Instead, I "blasted" nubs, saying 2 things I disliked about NUBS and how I wanted to do it differently. Literally, read it. That's what it says. In no way did I say "NUBS IS SHIT", I said I don't want to end up in 2 specific aspects like NUBS did. In no way is that offensive.
    How am I blaming admins for everything related to gameplay? So when someone is clearly exploiting and making the game impossible to win, the admin should totally just sit back and do nothing right? Or when ANOTHER admin says that one is banning for BS reasons and I actually go to the server owner about it, whom am I to believe? It's not the admins fault people play scout, but it is A GAME and it should be treated AS A GAME.

    PS: They can also lock spec to get people to play the game instead of 15 people sitting in spec while a 5v5 goes on in the game, but that doesn't happen ever. Oh, and admins stack. I wanted to cut down on that as well.
    Coming from a guy who is here for half the argument really and hardly plays. I'm not the little king of a sad little hill because I DO play on all servers, unlike Vicki who won't play on Memehouse because we somehow insulted her by referencing 2 points about NUBS that were bad and we wanted to improve. I'm actually friends with Misfire, the guy who I think was the main guy who setup the server, we talk all the time. Hell, we are talking about this right now. Why? Because I'm GENERALLY friendly to everyone.

    I 100% agree with this. I actually play on all servers and I am quite friendly with most the people who run all the other servers, except Vicki. Vicki is pretty much the ONLY one I clash with because she insults me and then tries to play victim for absolute BS reasons. Those posts, which aren't even offensive, are on a private group no one would even know about. Oh yea, and she won't play on memehouse because we are all "assholes", according to her and cries on the shoutbox when people do get on Memehouse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  12. Señor_Awesome

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    Every conversation with me is a national treasure so you'd do well to save that shit off and then pawn it off on ebay.

    But seriously people save so many conversations around here that it's like I'm in a Philip K. Dick novel. Trust no one.
     
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  13. Kidpaler

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    Seriously, you all say you like each other but record each others conversations behind each others back and show it to others to prove that you were right to stab said person in the back.

    You say I'm shitty, look in the mirror people. You record a conversation, give out parts of it to support your argument, then it goes right back to a shit fest. No one trusts each other here.
     
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  14. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Mandatory image for thread.
    Be nice kiddos.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Kidpaler

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    I agree. I'm dropping the argument after LordDz's post and I think we all should. No more talk of it now, only about how to raise player count so we can all be happy.

    Let us not ruin that streak we had where we went a solid 10 hours of no toxicity at all. Let's go for 11! If Chicago can go a week without a murder, we can go 24 hours without a toxic comment.
     
  16. Ranger

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    I suppose all thousands of users of Pidgin are also bad people because Pidgin automatically saves chatlogs by default :((((( What is posted from the logs is carefully selected, it's not like Creeper or me try to cause any conflict, as it could be suggested by some... So these automatic chatlogs have come in handy as they have helped avoiding some bullshiting as they are proof of what has been said and what not. On the other hand we're bad people, as mentioned above, so we clearly edit the chatlogs and alter the truth D: somebody once said it, don't remember who. Anyway, it's not like I'm trying to prove anything to you, just saying; laying it out for you.

    If anybody questions the authencity of that chatlog or any chatlog, ask the people taking part in it. In this case it's JGF. That is, however, of little importance now.

    So I will repeat. JGF probaly did tell you that LT banned scouts blah blah. If he did, he misunderstood and had Creeper know. If he didn't you misunderstood and mixed things a bit. Go ask him if you wish.

    Brah, scrat is like the puppy of empires. He's innocent, he barely talks english. He was an admin on Viper and all admins from Viper became admins on NUBS. He never caused trouble so why remove him? There's no duty like the one you speak of, he's no officer, judge or doctor. It's moderate,kick,ban,ungrief,vote; he has done it all. It's simple, he's like okkkkkk . Keep in mind spoken English is harder to understand for some and I confirm with scrat it's teh case.

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    I also want to make it clear that I don't mind seeing a lot of servers out there, it's quite... fun and refreshing, looking at all teh new names and memes. I was pointing out what, in my opinion, would be best for Empires overall.

    If you wanna talk about things add me on Steam ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
     
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    you remember that joke we had on escort like 1 or 2 years ago

    its on the tip of my tongue but its not coming up. sadly i didnt record it
    lmao selective editing. you should put your old avatar up so people remember the guy whos saying this
     
  18. Kidpaler

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    I'm only going to respond to this because the rest of it is nonsense. (not in a bad way, just theres no point in replying to it)

    There is no point having an admin who doesn't want to BE an admin and use his powers to help the server. Plain and simple as that. He has told me numerous times he doesn't want to be an admin, he doesn't like using his powers, he just wants to play. It's almost as bad to have an admin who doesn't do anything about people clearly exploiting and ruining peoples fun as having one that abuses.


    Again, can we change the topic of this thread back to... idk... the topic of player counts? Let's get rid of the toxicity.
     
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    Kidpaler, hands down, you shouldn't be saying "We are not NUBS".

    "We discuss our bans publicly here.", that's all you should be saying and there's nothing wrong with that.

    I see no point other than generating drama to bring up NUBS as the "yo kids, don't grow up and be like NUBS" lesson.

    "Yo kid, see that muddy worker there? That's what you get for not studying hard."
    For you and your kid, it's not insult.
    For that worker it is goddamn insult, hands down.
     
  20. Kidpaler

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    Annnnnd Offtopic we go again.
    So, if something is wrong with a system and you want to fix it, how do you do it? I usually give an example, the broken system, and then point out how to fix it. I did that here. That isn't an insult. I see that system as broken. If they don't think it's broken, why are they so hurt about it?

    Again, not an insult. NUBS ceases to exist at this very moment so theres that as well.

    I find it funny because I talked with the owner of ESB/one of the founders and showed him both the "proofs" that Vicki posted. The one you are referencing he said "I don't see anything" (PARAPHRASING because I don't recall the exact quote because I'm not the type to record and save every single conversation I have) and then the other one he corrected me and said yea it could be taken as insulting. I respect him a lot, I have taken his advice on a lot, and I explained to him that I didn't try to be offensive about it but he told me how it came off so I fixed it. Look at that, someone ACTUALLY talked to me and I changed it. Holy shit. It's almost like this community likes to sit on things that AREN'T a big deal and continually get more and more pissed about it until KABOOM! We get into a giant argument where we fling shit at each other like monkeys until were all covered in shit and theres 3 fewer monkeys because 3 of the monkeys didn't want to get hit with the shit.

    Now let's not get these people involved. If you have a problem with it, talk to ME directly and don't do any of this middle man bullshit. It's bad for you, me, and the community.

    As for the one you are referencing, I refuse to change that one. It's not an insult, it's not insulting anyone, I'm simply stating NUBS doesn't like talking about bans. Is that not a fact? Perhaps instead of feeling emotionally hurt about how you don't talk about bans you seek to rectify the issue instead of being hurt that some other server wants to talk about bans and not treat the banned in such a way as NUBS does. If you make a policy and have it be widely known as the ONLY server, why can't your policy be used as "We don't want that"?

    Now I'm not even going to get into how this is a private admin page which has no links to the outside world and how you are all stewing over it. It's just stupid at this point how an example of a broken system is being taken as offensive to a group who were in charge and made said rule. Great, if you stand by it why do you take offense to it? Plenty of people have told you that it's a stupid rule before, why haven't you corrected it then? Were you this hurt and bent out of shape everytime someone wanted to argue a ban and you said "We don't talk about bans here"?


    Now please, let's get back on topic.


    Edit: IF you have a problem about it. How about we take this to PM's/Steam messages to stop the pollution of the forum. NO middle men. Stop talking behind each others back. Stop gossiping about it. Stop making each other more mad. Let's talk this out, for real.

    Edit 2: Before someone posts "YOU EDITED YOUR POST!" Yea. I did. I redacted some information. Overall message is still there.
     
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