The shitty taste in maps of players

Discussion in 'General' started by Freaknovich, Jul 13, 2014.

  1. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    man viper really is 24/7 bootybay eh
     
  2. FN198

    FN198 Member

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    @Paradox,

    If I recall correctly it is that way on EPIC, but not on VIPER. Right?
     
  3. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    theres a thread about it its that UMC plug in , dont both have it?
     
  4. vipervicki

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    I change it to once in 6 hrs for a map to be played and will keep my eye on if the timer is broken or not.
    I removed money and kept money_cl since that seems to be the one preferred.
    I still prefer the mapvote before round starts I am not sure if the end round vote starts after CV is destroyed or before, if its before I don't think its a good idea to have a vote pop up in such a intense time on the map.

    If its after the cv is destroyed then I will consider it but this plugin to update to cyber killers version is very time consuming and tedious, umc plugin has so many files to be configured plus I would be basically bug testing it, not sure I am up for all of that right now.
     
  5. vipervicki

    vipervicki Member

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    I agree bootybay is one of my favorite maps I wish Lorddz would fix it already *HINT
     
  6. FN198

    FN198 Member

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    Paradox I was asking you dude. Apparently VIPER doesn't have end of match mapvote.

    It's after the cv is destroyed so it has no impact on the game.

    EDIT: I strongly advocate end of match mapvote and would be very happy to have it implemented on VIPER. Please consider setting it up.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2014
  7. Freaknovich

    Freaknovich Member

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    Well it happened again today. Escort killed the server. It went from 30+ player to about 15 in the course of one map. The common misconception about escort is that it attracts players. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant to what happens to the server AFTER the map is played. Many do not realize how most players are too burnt out to keep player the game after a long round of escort. It is non stop repetitive gameplay, with little to no variation unless you switch side half way through. There is constantly shit going on in tight spaces, and it is extremely draining to the psyche. I find that after 30+ minutes of escort, I am simply too worn out to play a normal round after. On commander maps, you can at least control the pace of the game. You can go build refs, base bitch, or whatever you want. It's not constant kill, die, spawn, etc. like escort is. Most people don't seem to understand how damaging escort can be to a large population. Something really needs to be done about this map.
     
  8. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    Escort's good for pulling in players at around 7v7, money's good for as low as 3v3 to be honest. Literally the only single reason I tolerate Money's existence is because, despite everything, it's still a decent seeding map. 15v15 pushes what can be considered to be good gameplay on both of those maps; hell, 10v10 pushes that boundary oftentimes.
     
  9. vipervicki

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    that was on epic not viper, but it could have just been dinner time in USA if many were from USA on epic. That time it usually loses a lot of people, on viper at least, regardless of the map being played
     
  10. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Señor_Awesome Member

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    Are you trying to tell me that this is all the work of an enemy stand?
     
  12. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Would you be surprised if that was the case?
     
  13. Metal Smith

    Metal Smith Member

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    I don't play often, but when I do, it's usually escort or district. Why? because every other map is usually won in 20 minutes, tops.

    Vicki, do you have records for map duration as well? That would be interesting.
     
  14. vipervicki

    vipervicki Member

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    Yes I do..I took a random day June 7th:The early morning hours and late night hours are not good indications

    --=================================================================--
    [06/07/2014 00:41:56] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_duststorm ---
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    [06/07/2014 00:44:33] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_district402 ---
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    [06/07/2014 01:34:07] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_shadows_attacks ---
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    [06/07/2014 07:00:44] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_money_cl ---
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    [06/07/2014 07:15:04] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_crossroads ---
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    [06/07/2014 14:21:16] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_palmbay ---
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    [06/07/2014 16:13:42] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_canyon ---
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    [06/07/2014 16:50:54] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_money_cl ---
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    [06/07/2014 18:00:21] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_escort ---
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    [06/07/2014 18:35:28] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_bush ---
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    --=================================================================--
    [06/07/2014 19:25:47] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_slaughtered ---
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    [06/07/2014 19:41:03] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_snowstorm_rc6 ---
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    [06/07/2014 19:45:29] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_frost_rc3 ---
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    [06/07/2014 20:14:07] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_coast ---
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    [06/07/2014 21:22:10] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_urbanchaos ---
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    --=================================================================--
    [06/07/2014 21:47:14] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_streetsoffire ---
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    [06/07/2014 22:16:51] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_district402 ---
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    [06/07/2014 22:47:07] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_shadows_attacks ---
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    [06/07/2014 22:53:15] --- NEW MAP STARTED: emp_glycencity ---
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  15. complete_

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    heres the longest maps from that list (obvious empty server ones removed)
    emp_district402 - 50 minutes
    emp_canyon - 35 minutes
    emp_money_cl - 1 HOUR AND 10 MINUTES (SERIOUSLY)
    emp_escort - 35 minutes
    emp_bush - 50 minutes
    emp_frost_rc3 - 30 minutes
    emp_urbanchaos - 25 mintes
    emp_streetsoffire - 30 minutes
    emp_district402 - 30 minutes
    emp_shadows_attacks - 30 minutes

    bush came right after escort. it was probably 50 minutes because the server was emptied by that horrible map


    with the tickets escort has, it can go on for 50 minutes. thats proof enough that it needs to be changed by a mapper (it should 30 minutes or less AT LEAST)
     
  16. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    are these averages or just random samples?

    tickets are a bad measurement for max map length, they count null if people are reviving - in theory you could have just enough tickets to spawn everyone, +1 so you dont go sudden death, and still play for hours. its not even that far fetched, i already played games where ticket count didnt change for several minutes.
     
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  17. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    from the list above mine?
     
  18. communism

    communism poof

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    add emp_valley that map so good guis
     
  19. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    The only good thing about that map was 9mining onto the top. Everything else about it was fucking horrendous.
     
  20. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    "there are no bad maps in empires"
     

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