The Case for Mark II's.

Discussion in 'Game Play' started by Comand'zorz' Asz, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. Comand'zorz' Asz

    Comand'zorz' Asz Member

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    They don't seem particularly imbalanced. I'm not sure what the particular arguments for removal are, but I can guess its that they allow you to do things that you would normally have to research Arty or Med chassis for.


    So my case for them: They can be added as a sub-tech under U-chassis.
    Hell, even make them more expensive than mediums, and generally unviable.
    I just know there's a couple situations where they can be useful (not just as a tech rush - i.e. the LT can get through places the med can't at speeds it can't, and maybe someone likes the 2 slot cannon with 4 slot passengers on the AFV and would like to pay res for that...)
    Moreover, I like being able to invest more res into a better rush while still using the smaller chassis.
    Also, I am a fan of the LT, and like being able to put guided, salvo etc on it.

    P.S.
    The new developer additions are an insult to Glorious Jekotia and her Prime Legion! However this post is more serious than those postings. Its after 12 here.
     
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  2. Deiform

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    Your case for keeping the MK2 is really a case for buffing the med tank. The med tank only needs to be faster and much quicker to get than it is currently to not only make them a valid choice, but also make the MK2 redundant.
     
  3. Comand'zorz' Asz

    Comand'zorz' Asz Member

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    No, there was the part where I said I liked the Light Tank, size and all and whatnot.
    But you present an interesting proposal.
     
  4. Ikalx

    Ikalx Member

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    At the end of the day, Mediums are more powerful than MK II's and generally more cost efficient, so the only way to make mkII's be useful (aside from the fact that the LT is the smallest, fastest, and most useful tank in the game equipped with a 2-slot ML) is to make them cheaper. As soon as you make them cheaper...they become a replacement for Mediums.
     
  5. pickled_heretic

    pickled_heretic Member

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    Uh,

    Fuck You
     
  6. Comand'zorz' Asz

    Comand'zorz' Asz Member

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    Dizzyone, are you interpreting for Pickled or replying to him?
    Oh wait thats your signature but I am clever.
     
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  7. arklansman

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    That's Pickled's signature.
     
  8. pickled_heretic

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    putting them as an alternative research under upgraded chassis is about the only way that they could stay. giving them for free after obtaining upgraded chassis is annoying and stupid and it detracts from the commander's ability to influence the outcome of the game.

    I'd rather just see them gone, in fact i'm one of the people who spearheaded the effort to get them removed.
     
  9. OuNin

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    keep them removed
    keep them removed
    keep them removed
    keep them removed
     
  10. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Agree with pickled 100%
     
  11. blizzerd

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    mk2s in there current official form are stupid

    id say i would like some more 1slot cannons to research that are a viable research option
     
  12. Empty

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    If MK2s were my commander I'd F S Space before I left the barracks.
     
  13. Comand'zorz' Asz

    Comand'zorz' Asz Member

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    This thread has been capsized.
     
  14. Aquillion

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    If nothing else -- whether they're moved or whatever -- if they're coming back / staying in any form, they need a new model. Having a tank that looks just like an LT / AFV but is significantly more dangerous is not good for the game, I think... the differences in armor are already bad enough.

    Clarity at a glance is a desirable thing in a FPS, usually.
     
  15. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    mk2s got removed (or so i heard). imo it was for (more than one) good reason.
    please stick with that and we might eventually use mediums again once in a while :D
     
  16. manbeef

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    Yep, MKII's are already gone.
     
  17. Deiform

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    Whilst the main argument is the redundancy of med tanks and auto upgraded chassis, LTs do lose their viability late game when all they really do is run infantry over and draw fire.

    Would be nice if there was a selection of 1 slot weapons for them.
     
  18. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    while i agree that a set up upgraded one-slot weapons would be nice, youll need to be really careful because you might just create the same or even worse issues as with mk2s just more disguised ...
     
  19. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    I really loved the two slot ml light tank. Gonna miss it :(
     
  20. blizzerd

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    so did i brutos, let us mourn together :(
     

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