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    Jan 11, 2018 at 1:12 PM - Ranger: wot. scripts are in vpk now?
    Jan 11, 2018 at 1:18 PM - Xyaminou: yep... because reasons...
    Jan 11, 2018 at 1:53 PM - Thexa4: You can keep scripts unpacked if you edit them. Packed scripts are only needed if you enable sv_pure.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 3:03 PM - Xyaminou: why do I have a 2.10 soundpack in the custom files.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: If there's such a thing then why not allow custom scripts to be triggered by the server.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: So if someone joins my server it makes them use the scripts in a folder in custom instead of the base ones.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 3:06 PM - Xyaminou: Clearly you're already halfway there.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 3:53 PM - Thexa4: Scripts are loaded on startup of the game, not on server load so that wouldn't be trivial.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 6:00 PM - Xyaminou: Wow there were two typos in my steamgroup's page and no one has ever told me.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 6:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i never noticed..
    Jan 11, 2018 at 6:27 PM - Xyaminou: https://github.com/Xiaminou/HardcoreEmpires/wiki
    Jan 11, 2018 at 6:27 PM - Xyaminou: what do you want to see in there?
    Jan 11, 2018 at 8:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://github.com/Xiaminou/HardcoreEmpires/wiki/Maps could do with a list of changes here
    Jan 11, 2018 at 8:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i mean, what changes have been made to each map
    Jan 11, 2018 at 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: Yes, that's the plan.
    Jan 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
     
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    Jan 12, 2018 2:52 PM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Jan 12, 2018 2:52 PM - Ranger: Mr Birb
    Jan 12, 2018 6:13 PM - Ranger: I have 17474MB Data on my phone. How am I supposed to use this? I don't even pay for it.
    Jan 12, 2018 6:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Porn.
    Jan 12, 2018 6:17 PM - Ranger: On my phone? Even if I needed to, I have wifi
    Jan 12, 2018 7:17 PM - Xyaminou: You mean you want to use that much? or you're at that much?
    Jan 12, 2018 7:31 PM - Ranger: I have that on my account.
    Jan 12, 2018 7:32 PM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Jan 12, 2018 7:34 PM - Xyaminou: ???
    Jan 12, 2018 7:37 PM - Ranger: "???"?
    Jan 12, 2018 7:47 PM - Xyaminou: ????
    Jan 12, 2018 8:01 PM - McGyver: what is this shithole?
    Jan 12, 2018 8:02 PM - Xyaminou: shouldn't you know?
    Jan 12, 2018 8:05 PM - Ranger: CNN was so mad about shithole. Even tho it's true, a president shouldn't say that "in the sake of relations with foreign shithole countries". But I personally don't care.
    Jan 12, 2018 8:06 PM - Xyaminou: ?????
    Jan 12, 2018 9:31 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 12, 2018 9:31 PM - vipervicki: the world is going nuts over that but he said he never used that word in the meeting
    Jan 12, 2018 9:32 PM - vipervicki: esepcially the dems but those countries have a very high index of misery it was the coutnries not the people he was talking about
    Jan 12, 2018 9:32 PM - vipervicki: countries
    Jan 12, 2018 10:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fake news!
    Jan 12, 2018 10:19 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 12, 2018 10:22 PM - Ranger: ehhh
    Jan 12, 2018 10:22 PM - Ranger: ur mom!!!!!111111111
     
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    Jan 13, 2018 at 6:14 AM - A-z-K: He just wants to be the most famous dude in the world. Who are we to selfishly limit his dreams in the name of something as petty as global race relations.
    Jan 13, 2018 at 10:33 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 13, 2018 at 7:06 PM - w00kie: anyone play SQUAD?
    Jan 13, 2018 at 7:06 PM - w00kie: it is pretty awesome with the right SQUAD
    Jan 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM - w00kie:
    Jan 13, 2018 at 7:08 PM - w00kie: I guess if/once empires is done in Unreal we can all enjoy the same shit
    Jan 14, 2018 at 12:23 AM - PwnedYoAss: From what I understand, Kylegar's working on SQUAD
    Jan 14, 2018 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: I think I know a few people from Empires who play it
    Jan 14, 2018 at 12:42 AM - vipervicki: Kylgear is no longer dev on squad
    Jan 14, 2018 at 12:44 AM - vipervicki: cool w00kie
    Jan 14, 2018 at 12:46 AM - PwnedYoAss: Really? Oh
    Jan 14, 2018 at 1:52 AM - w00kie: there are lots of shitty placeholder UI things that remind me of empires though
    Jan 14, 2018 at 1:54 AM - w00kie: even tactics-wise there are extremes like in our former PUGS to Just-wing-it things
     
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    Jan 14, 2018 at 6:37 PM - Ranger: He realized Empires Mod is to strong to compete with.
    Jan 14, 2018 at 6:38 PM - Ranger: Why does american english and british english have differences such as "realised and realized" like they all gathered around the table and "ERMAGEHRD WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE SPELLING"
    Jan 14, 2018 at 6:39 PM - Ranger: Words are fine, like elevator and lift. but single letters why? it doesnt change the sound
    Jan 14, 2018 at 6:40 PM - Ranger: english splitting up and evolving :o
    Jan 14, 2018 at 9:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 14, 2018 at 10:44 PM - MegaMLGgaming: Why is it whenever im drunk i come here?
    Jan 14, 2018 at 10:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you don't want this broken down like this in public
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: I've asked myself the same thing Ranger, I can't say for sure why there was a divergence in the spelling, but as far as I'm concerned, it is spelled realise.
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:25 AM - Xyaminou: I did try and find more information but it seems that either I'm bad at googling or english words have poor documentation when it comes to their etymologie.
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:26 AM - Xyaminou: However I did confirm that it does come from french "realisé" which is why I am leaning toward the "realise" spelling.
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:52 AM - vipervicki: in the USA its with the z when we say it it does not have an s sound but a z sound
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:53 AM - vipervicki: realize
    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:57 AM - vipervicki: from what Ive read in the USA and Canada its spelled with a z, outside NA it is with an s, and its origin is French, with the s
    Jan 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM - Ranger: I usually use S instead of Z in most words, but PC corrects me cause i use american english. i find S more fitting. I always feel like im mocking people when using Zs. Maybe cause I use it in my Lolzz
    Jan 15, 2018 at 1:03 AM - vipervicki: here it looks silly with s
    Jan 15, 2018 at 1:04 AM - vipervicki: plus when we say it it has a z sound not an s sound
     
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    Jan 15, 2018 at 8:31 PM - Ranger: weeee earthquake heree
    Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i gather that you're okay?
    Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 PM - Ranger: ye . i was watching stargate when i felt my chair shaking a bit. initially i thought the inertia dampers were damaged but then i realised it was just a spacequake
     
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    Jan 16, 2018 at 8:57 AM - Sgt.Security: organization organisation, well, pretty sure they are both right, just used in different countries.
    Jan 16, 2018 at 1:10 PM - Ranger: thick thicc
    Jan 16, 2018 at 8:15 PM - Pyrope ☭: So, when are we going to play?
    Jan 16, 2018 at 8:17 PM - Pyrope ☭: im tired of waiting
    Jan 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: normal empires? Probably weekend unless someone spends a few hours seeding tomorrow
    Jan 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: new content? Whenever i stop being lazy and open up hammer, i have several relatively quick things to do
    Jan 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM - PwnedYoAss: Bleh, we only usually get games Saturday which sucks
    Jan 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM - PwnedYoAss: It was Sat/Sun at one point and we had a weird weekday once
    Jan 16, 2018 at 9:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just this past weekend we had medium pop games for a few hrs
     
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    Jan 18, 2018 1:51 PM - A-z-K: Super
    Jan 18, 2018 1:51 PM - A-z-K: Hot
    Jan 18, 2018 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: Super
    Jan 18, 2018 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: Hot
    Jan 18, 2018 7:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Super
    Jan 18, 2018 7:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Hot
    Jan 18, 2018 7:23 PM - Ranger: Super
    Jan 18, 2018 7:23 PM - Ranger: Hot
    Jan 18, 2018 7:55 PM - Ranger: "Wow. Science. It's pretty... pretty BIG and uh... INPORTANT and uh... APPARATUS?"
     
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    Jan 19, 2018 3:58 PM - w00kie: lel
    Jan 19, 2018 3:59 PM - w00kie: some SQUAD clan won't recruit me because I've send ascii penises to lorddz
    Jan 19, 2018 4:35 PM - Ranger: IS IT BECAUSE UR A WOMAN?
    Jan 19, 2018 4:56 PM - vipervicki: I told them you did w00kie sorry :-P
    Jan 19, 2018 4:57 PM - vipervicki: SQUAD is pretty good jsut wish I could see the enemy
    Jan 19, 2018 4:59 PM - Ranger: λελ
    Jan 19, 2018 5:00 PM - vipervicki: 大声笑
    Jan 19, 2018 5:04 PM - w00kie: öäüß
    Jan 19, 2018 5:05 PM - w00kie: I let them check my steam account and instead of checking vac bans, account age et cetera, they use my id to check 7 year old messages for stuff that brits find inappropriate
    Jan 19, 2018 5:06 PM - w00kie: Afrter that, I did not want to join them either :D
    Jan 19, 2018 5:07 PM - Ranger: does "post this on 12 girls' profiles to let them know they are beautiful" ascii count?
    Jan 19, 2018 5:08 PM - w00kie: how can this be offensive? https://i.imgur.com/M98Yqpk.png
    Jan 19, 2018 5:27 PM - Ranger: the patriarchy
    Jan 19, 2018 5:29 PM - Ranger: this is what happens when young people are incapable of finding the path on their own and have no proper guidance from friends and family. rip. slowly realising these are the problems young people of today will face in the future. meanwhile old parents have no idea what we're talking about
    Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM - w00kie: are we still talking about beautiful ascii art?
    Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM - w00kie: …………………...„„-~^^~„-„„_ ………………„-^*'' : : „'' : : : : *-„ …………..„-* : : :„„--/ : : : : : : : '\ …………./ : : „-* . .| : : : : : : : : '| ……….../ : „-* . . . | : : : : : : : : | ………...\„-* . . . . .| : : : : : : : :'| ……….../ . . . . . . '| : : : : : : : :| ……..../ . . . . . . . .'\ : : : : : : : | ……../ . . . . . . . . . .\ : : : : : : :| ……./ . . . . . . . . . . . '\ : : : : : / ….../ . . . . . . . .
    Jan 19, 2018 5:48 PM - w00kie: this shoutbox is useless
    Jan 19, 2018 6:03 PM - vipervicki: LOl
    Jan 19, 2018 8:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 20, 2018 12:53 AM - Ranger: Everyone spams the shoutbox with their own random shit, but Derstoyer, NO. Always some empires match video to share!
    Jan 20, 2018 1:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well excuuuse me, where am i supposed to post these, reddit?
    Jan 20, 2018 1:19 AM - Ranger: on facebook of course
    Jan 20, 2018 1:21 AM - Pyrope ☭: kek
    Jan 20, 2018 1:39 AM - Pyrope ☭: GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE!
     
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    Jan 20, 2018 at 10:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 20, 2018 at 6:58 PM - w00kie: I just learned that empires can now run on linux
    Jan 20, 2018 at 6:58 PM - w00kie: *currently
    Jan 20, 2018 at 8:12 PM - vipervicki: empires has been running on Linux for quite a awhile the empires strikes bback server is linux
    Jan 20, 2018 at 8:12 PM - vipervicki: nubs was linux too
    Jan 21, 2018 at 1:45 AM - Thexa4: If anyone is willing to debug linux live together with me, add me on steam
    Jan 21, 2018 at 1:45 AM - Thexa4: My linux laptop is missing a charger :(
     
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    Jan 21, 2018 at 10:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 21, 2018 at 2:52 PM - w00kie: what I ment is, I didn't know the client has been made working on linux again
    Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM - vipervicki: w/e happened with Dukes you tube contest? was a winner chosen yet?
    Jan 21, 2018 at 3:24 PM - w00kie: I thought DDD had technically won
    Jan 21, 2018 at 3:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well, of the two entries, mine was deemed superior
    Jan 21, 2018 at 3:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and duke either took offence to the lack of response, or he got busy with RL stuff :rolleyes:
    Jan 21, 2018 at 6:48 PM - Ranger: Rimworld reaching its final form after 5 years. Dev will move on to another game I suppose. Or... He could work on more features as neat DLCs? Would you buy Rimworld DLCs that add content and new mechanics? Seems like it's the only way to keep working on the game for long periods of time.
    Jan 21, 2018 at 9:47 PM - MegaMLGgaming: That sounds oddly familiar
    Jan 21, 2018 at 9:55 PM - Ranger: Is DwarfFortress still in development?
    Jan 21, 2018 at 11:45 PM - Lazybum: yup. it even has a patreon page. https://www.patreon.com/bay12games
    Jan 21, 2018 at 11:46 PM - Lazybum: really do wonder how long toady will work on it
    Jan 21, 2018 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: well that sux destoyer he supposed to give someone 200 dollars
    Jan 21, 2018 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: Puddle of Mudd
     
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    Jan 22, 2018 at 6:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i swear, the only thing people cared about re: that contest was the prize
    Jan 22, 2018 at 6:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: contest qas had, prize was given, point was missed
    Jan 22, 2018 at 12:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 22, 2018 at 4:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hello i will continue spamming notifications but this time i want to say that i'm starting a mapping stream where we do a thing to crossroads, come hang out and comment www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
     
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    Jan 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM - MegaMLGgaming: Are you gonna fill the holes??
    Jan 23, 2018 at 7:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dunno. i didn't yesterday
    Jan 23, 2018 at 8:21 AM - MegaMLGgaming: Or atleast fill em enough to fit a player and a tank not get stuck
    Jan 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i could vehicleclip the bottoma
    Jan 23, 2018 at 6:05 PM - Ranger: Fit a player ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Jan 23, 2018 at 6:05 PM - Ranger: A PLAYA
     
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    Jan 25, 2018 at 3:37 AM - PwnedYoAss: HM. Duke did vanish.
     
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    Jan 25, 2018 2:53 PM - Metal Smith: He said he only had a month or so to dedicate to whatever he was doing before he was going back to work...
    Jan 25, 2018 8:43 PM - PwnedYoAss: He did say that
    Jan 25, 2018 8:55 PM - Xyaminou: wait what? he spent money and time on something he knew he couldn't finish?
    Jan 25, 2018 9:06 PM - PwnedYoAss: Seems he'd been working on it for some time before that month though
    Jan 25, 2018 9:06 PM - PwnedYoAss: and I'm assuming he made some more progress on it
    Jan 25, 2018 11:18 PM - vipervicki: I dont think thats what he said I think he said he is taking a month off of work to work solely on empires2, so I assume if hes back at work he can only work on it in his spare time. He did say at one point his boss is okay with him working on empires2 project.
    Jan 25, 2018 11:21 PM - vipervicki: oh I jsut checked his profile and he logged in Jan 12 and on his you tube thread he announced destroyer as the winner https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/empires-youtube-competition.21117/page-2#post-546880
    Jan 25, 2018 11:21 PM - vipervicki: congrats! destroyer
    Jan 25, 2018 11:23 PM - Misfire: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyguq2hhrw7vscv/Lots_O_Bots.flv?dl=0
    Jan 25, 2018 11:24 PM - Misfire: Hungry bots.
    Jan 26, 2018 2:37 AM - Thexa4: nice
    Jan 26, 2018 3:36 AM - Misfire: The end of wayponits. Free roaming bots with better Empires' map navigating. Still crude though.
    Jan 26, 2018 3:37 AM - Misfire: The end of navmesh too come to think of it
    Jan 26, 2018 3:43 AM - Misfire: The steep learning curve for tool chains was unexpected, but making a bit of progress now
     
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    Jan 26, 2018 9:58 AM - Sgt.Security: Have they learned to not calculate the enemy to death?
    Jan 26, 2018 1:22 PM - Misfire: lol. focus is all on navigating right now, and I think picking the proper weapon should be easy by comparison when I get that far.
    Jan 26, 2018 1:23 PM - Misfire: I see the "Russians" are having a decent match atm.
    Jan 26, 2018 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: Putin would be proud
    Jan 26, 2018 1:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsga3bCg61A2tWsO-4BnI7Q/live
    Jan 26, 2018 5:05 PM - .Oktay.: did anyone trythis ? https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Entities_fall_through_displacements
    Jan 26, 2018 5:28 PM - .Oktay.: https://gmod.facepunch.com/f/gmodhe...orld-brushes-falling-through-displacements/1/
    Jan 26, 2018 5:28 PM - .Oktay.: this describes exact the same as our bug
    Jan 26, 2018 5:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the first link is different from our problem as the bug happens on simple brushes too, but the second sound pretty much spot on like our problem, but exacerbated to all physics entities
    Jan 26, 2018 5:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...come to think of it, do grenades also go bonkers when vehicles fall?
    Jan 26, 2018 5:43 PM - .Oktay.: if this bug happens again we should not restart the game i think the best is to check what goes throw maps
    Jan 26, 2018 5:45 PM - .Oktay.: the 3rd link is the same problem what we currently have but is on GMOD there is a function called ShouldCollide that cause to crash the physics in source engine
    Jan 26, 2018 5:45 PM - .Oktay.: https://gmod.facepunch.com/f/gmoddev/nfui/ShouldCollide-crashing-server-s-physics/1/
    Jan 26, 2018 5:54 PM - .Oktay.: i dont know if this helps the devs but i am 80 % sure that this bug is related to ShouldCollide
    Jan 26, 2018 6:39 PM - Thexa4: grenades are qphysics, so they should keep working
    Jan 26, 2018 6:41 PM - Thexa4: thanks for the link, I'll look into it when I have time
    Jan 26, 2018 9:23 PM - Misfire: " check what goes throw maps"... Not a complete list, but vehicles that I've personally seen fall through... APC, Comm, BE Med Tank, NF lite tank.
    Jan 26, 2018 9:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jeeps, NF meds, BE arties, heavy tanks...
    Jan 26, 2018 11:34 PM - Lazybum: Finally get around to trying to fix something, but i goof and now it's completely unrepairable. What a shame.
    Jan 26, 2018 11:35 PM - Lazybum: ps, I hate leadless solder with a passion.
    Jan 27, 2018 1:09 AM - Misfire: @Lazybum, +1. For now I can still get the classic type here in the states.
    Jan 27, 2018 1:12 AM - Misfire: So recompile all maps with -novirtualmesh. Annoying but doable.
     
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    Jan 27, 2018 at 8:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: uh, no? that's a different problem, our shit doesn't ignore displacements, it starts rolling about on any surface
    Jan 27, 2018 at 8:50 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: be it disps or brushes
    Jan 27, 2018 at 9:05 AM - .Oktay.: i know this dosent describe our problem but we could stop the tank fall through also we dont need to recompile all maps if we change the map this bug still happens so what about recompile 1 map with -novirtualmesh and if this bug happens we can switch it ?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 9:05 AM - .Oktay.: i know that the gravity is fucked up but is worth a try
    Jan 27, 2018 at 9:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not about the falling *through*, it's about them starting to slide and roll about like in the further links
    Jan 27, 2018 at 9:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the bug happens on solid brushes too, not just displacements
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:22 PM - Xyaminou: cars on homeland fall through the map too
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: they're the only "not frozen" entity I know about
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: I assume any other would do the same
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:27 PM - .Oktay.: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Physics_Entities_on_Server_&_Client
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:28 PM - .Oktay.: maybe there are all attached to groups like on the link is sended
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:29 PM - .Oktay.: so vehicles in general whould share the same physics whould also make sense on that homland car
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: Would* they*
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:33 PM - .Oktay.: sorry cant edit my sentences but thanks for the correction
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM - .Oktay.: also did anyone tested it on a server ? i mean spawning 64 vehicles to see if it breaks ?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: I don't think it has to do with the number of vehicles
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:37 PM - Xyaminou: but feel free to try stuff on my server
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:37 PM - .Oktay.: i think i don't have access to sv_cheats commands
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:39 PM - Xyaminou: you shouldn't need it to spawn lots of tanks
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:39 PM - Xyaminou: can do it on vehicletraining or just turn up the resource rate on commander maps
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:40 PM - .Oktay.: yeah but what about the selfdestruct time on vehicles ?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: it's an hour
    Jan 27, 2018 at 1:41 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure you'll be able to reach the entity limit before any of those despawn
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:18 PM - Smithy: Just a quick one
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:18 PM - Smithy: Were there arty on the map?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:19 PM - Baten Alrai: I built some arties
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:19 PM - Smithy: Arty uses old shell code which is why i ask
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:20 PM - Smithy: I think those and potentially missile code are flawed
    Jan 27, 2018 at 2:20 PM - Smithy: But dont have it in front of me to check
    Jan 27, 2018 at 3:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was watching a game on SOF once and the bug happened shortly after meds rolled out
    Jan 27, 2018 at 3:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: deffo before arty
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: so
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: it happened now
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: on a 3v3
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: on vehicletraining
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:34 PM - Xyaminou: note that the server was not restarted
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: so what if it has to do with us spawning lots of tanks on an earlier map?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: what if it reaches some kind of critical mass or something
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: I don't think I've ever seen it happen in the earlier game, usually it just happens after a few maps.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it happened once on a server niteko was hosting locally...he started it for SOF and the vehicles dropped through after <20 minutes
    Jan 27, 2018 at 5:49 PM - .Oktay.: it happend only on high pop so i thought it must be related to the player count like how many tanks are on the map stressing the server but apparently it must be something about the server in general like how much it stress out the physics
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: I think we should start asking around the internet for help at this point.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: http://www.moddb.com/groups/source-developers/news/the-source-modding-community-discord-server
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: here for example
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:04 PM - Smithy: Well I'm fairly certain its related to missiles
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:04 PM - Smithy: It started happening around the time we changed the way they collide with your own tank
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:05 PM - Smithy: Shell code doesn't use that behaviour in beta branch, arty still does in current release
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:06 PM - Smithy: It's just not reproducible without knowing what exactly is going wrong
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:06 PM - Xyaminou: so it might not be happening in the next release?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:06 PM - Smithy: I even debugged with stupidly fast fire rate
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:06 PM - Smithy: And couldn't reproduce it
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:07 PM - Smithy: Well missiles still behave that way
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:07 PM - Smithy: So no its not fixed
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:07 PM - Smithy: It's a double edged sword, the fix that stopped the missile halt bug could be the cause
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:08 PM - Xyaminou: oh
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: How hard would be to undo that fix and try it?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:11 PM - Smithy: We need to get the current changes tested and pushed to release first I would think
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: Well if you have a comprehensive list of the changes I can at least start beta testing.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:12 PM - Smithy: The part that calls the collision change is in firelauncher
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:12 PM - Smithy: But I don't know the circumstances that cause that to break everything
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:13 PM - Smithy: I wasn't really involved with this patch
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:13 PM - Smithy: Is it on the wiki?
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:13 PM - Xyaminou: After that it's just a matter of pushing it to release branch and be ready to debug.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:13 PM - Xyaminou: Well there's a changelog if that's what you mean but that doesn't exactly translate into all the things that were changed in the code.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:14 PM - Xyaminou: can't rely on a changelog to make sure all the things have been beta-tested.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: This is basically what I said to Destroyer when he asked me to organise a beta test, either I need a comprehensive changelog of everything that's been touched in the code, or access to the code, or I need you.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: Otherwise it's not a real beta test it's just us flailing around in the dark hoping to catch a bug.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:27 PM - Mikleo: I'm still convinced its lag compensation. JGF first reported it after lag compensation was to vehicle mgs. Which was pretty much the only change involving vehicles. Either way it was that patch which caused the issue.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:28 PM - Smithy: It could be lag comp. I really don't know since both changes were within a couple of patches of each other
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:32 PM - Mikleo: 2.13.4: Vehicles are now lag compensated, allowing you to hit people with hitscan weapons while driving
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:32 PM - Mikleo: it was either that patch or it was one of the ones just before it and we got lucky enough to never see it.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:35 PM - Mikleo: first reported incident:
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:35 PM - Mikleo: Apr 27, 2017 3:40 AM - JustGoFly: Update broke game Apr 27, 2017 3:41 AM - JustGoFly: http://steamcommunity.com/id/JustGoFly/home Apr 27, 2017 3:42 AM - JustGoFly: After playing for about an hour - and 30 mins on Slaughtered on ESB server, all vehicles on both teams dropped under the map Apr 27, 2017 3:43 AM - JustGoFly: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....posite-to=*,*|1024:575&background-color
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:38 PM - Mikleo: whci is a day after that patch hit
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:38 PM - Xyaminou: yep
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:40 PM - Smithy: ok
    Jan 27, 2018 at 6:44 PM - Mikleo: hard to believe its been almost a year.
    Jan 27, 2018 at 10:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 9 months, 12 months, yea totally a year :P
    Jan 27, 2018 at 11:40 PM - vipervicki: he said almost a year and 9 months IS almost a year
    Jan 27, 2018 at 11:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: your rounding is funny guys
     
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    Jan 28, 2018 at 5:35 AM - Ranger: He's from another planet. don't be a time-racist
    Jan 28, 2018 at 12:17 PM - vipervicki: LOL Ranger
    Jan 28, 2018 at 12:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: calling 75% 'almost' is rsther extreme, is all, i can run 100 meters in 13 seconds, that's almost world record pace
    Jan 28, 2018 at 1:20 PM - Ranger: Cease this hate speech immediately or else!
    Jan 28, 2018 at 5:47 PM - vipervicki: 3 months shy of a year is almsot a year
    Jan 28, 2018 at 5:49 PM - vipervicki: funny guy you are Ranger :P
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so the measure here is that if something is 3 units short of a greater unit, it's almost?
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: by this logic, summer is almost a year too, since it's one of four seasons
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:10 PM - vipervicki: thats a ridiculous analogy summer is only 3 months long,
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: anyway u can look at it how you want but msit people here consider 9 months to be almsot a year
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: here menaing usa
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: meaning
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:13 PM - vipervicki: your logic is illogical
    Jan 28, 2018 at 8:14 PM - vipervicki: next...................topic
    Jan 28, 2018 at 9:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in the US a few years back, people considered owning a black person as a slave perfectly normal, does that make it okay?
    Jan 28, 2018 at 9:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, you can't say i'm illogical, provide no reasoning for such a claim, and expect me to take it as granted
    Jan 28, 2018 at 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: human eyes can only see up to almost 30 fps
    Jan 28, 2018 at 11:16 PM - Metal Smith: You are arguing about the exact definition of something that is subjective. That is illogical.
    Jan 28, 2018 at 11:50 PM - Ranger: kf2 anyone?
    Jan 29, 2018 at 12:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that is not what's being under scrutiny as 'illogical'
    Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: let me phrase my statement better, since my initial one seemed to be taken too offensively: What is the definition of 'almost' you guys are going by?
    Jan 29, 2018 at 12:11 AM - Ranger: If you see the year as a 4/4 then 3/4 is the closest you get to almost. If you see it as 12/12 then 9/12 is not almost. I suppose he saw it as one season more to go, WHO NOSE
    Jan 29, 2018 at 12:35 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i believe i outlined my reasoning in that grossly exaggerated example already
    Jan 29, 2018 at 1:38 AM - Ranger: Wow did you know that the RPG-7 can fire thermobaric rockets? 10m lethal explosion radius.
    Jan 29, 2018 at 1:41 AM - Ranger: The Taliban (in Afghanistan) have formed armored-vehicle hunter/killer teams that work together with as many as 15 RPGs to destroy armoured vehicles, aiming for a mobility kill by firing at the tracks to stop the tank from moving, then attempting to destroy the main armour while the tank is disabled.
    Jan 29, 2018 at 1:41 AM - Ranger: fokin rpg spam
    Jan 29, 2018 at 1:43 AM - MegaMLGgaming: Hmm sounds familliar
    Jan 29, 2018 at 1:52 AM - Ranger: KF2 ANYONE? I need company
    Jan 29, 2018 at 2:23 AM - vipervicki: LOL destroyer your mind works in mysterious ways.
     
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    Jan 29, 2018 9:38 AM - Sgt.Security: Technically, everyone's mind works in mysterious ways.
    Jan 29, 2018 12:52 PM - w00kie: Ranger, that is the sole reason I play SQUAD
    Jan 29, 2018 12:52 PM - w00kie: nothing beats putting IEDs on a motorcycle and hunting MRABs with it
    Jan 29, 2018 12:53 PM - w00kie: you can jump off, 15 meters before you reach the MRAB and launch the IED via a phone :D
    Jan 29, 2018 12:53 PM - w00kie: shit, I feel like I belong on a list for typing that
    Jan 29, 2018 12:59 PM - w00kie:
    Jan 29, 2018 1:41 PM - Ranger: proximity sensor ieds are teh best
    Jan 29, 2018 9:44 PM - Lazybum: I did this and still do this with c4 all the time in battlefield. any of them since bf2
    Jan 29, 2018 9:44 PM - Lazybum: makes poeple super angry though...
    Jan 29, 2018 10:34 PM - Ranger: Isn't that the point? HUEHUEHUE
     
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    Jan 30, 2018 at 3:05 PM - Ranger:
    Jan 30, 2018 at 3:06 PM - Ranger: The Great Soviet Japanese Empires. wat?
    Jan 30, 2018 at 6:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jfh0anaonn66gpt/AADJnd49h4ZK8hlC2Ma9h3yIa?dl=0
    Jan 30, 2018 at 7:56 PM - urethra franklin: I'm looking to get into mapping even though emp seems deader than ever, is the guide in the mapping forum (from omega_k2, with last post in 09) still usable? it seems like it would be outdated by now
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:02 PM - Xyaminou: It's technically less dead that it was for the last 2 months
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:02 PM - Xyaminou: your best bet is to get into discord and talk to Destroyer or LordDz
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:02 PM - Xyaminou: and to like pain
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guide is quite universal and not really empires specific
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: point #2 is no longer valid, we have map prefixes now
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i recommend against point #9 because, while it may be more messy for advanced end users, it also makes it much much easier to edit the map after you've been gone for years and something needs fixing (looking at you, fogtown and snowbound)
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: since you can decompile the map, shout and curse at hammer for a day or two while fixing decompile errors, and recompile it easily, without having to go on a crazy witch hunt for missing files - you have a list of them ready in the .res file
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and you can sort them nicely :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7g12g74cbg09j6/emp_nuclear_b8u.res?dl=0
    Jan 30, 2018 at 8:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hit me up if you have more questions, we can sort them out in PMs etc. so as to not clutter shoutbox
     
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