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    Apr 19, 2017 10:14 AM - Sgt.Security: iphone6+?
    Apr 19, 2017 10:20 AM - Sgt.Security: Are you guys done with events where people just assume they can have 1~2 nice rounds weekly so they just don't bother with the entire week of pub Empires? This goes to all of you.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:24 AM - Sgt.Security: I am not saying let's not host events for good, but come on, every, single, weekend? I'll just say, deja vu, remember our population when we had events weekly?
    Apr 19, 2017 10:25 AM - Sgt.Security: I am seeing that again, feel free to prove that I am wrong at the cost of our regular population.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:26 AM - Sgt.Security: Peace.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:57 AM - Spike: Well i wasn't going to do an event this weekend i was going to do one next weekend instead also i don't really see the issue with having a pug every Sunday i think its a good idea. The pugs on Sunday seem to be better games than the pub games.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:58 AM - Spike: The game isn't really that well populated on Sundays however the pugs seem to increase the amount of people playing which is a good thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:59 AM - Paradox: I agree witj security
    Apr 19, 2017 10:59 AM - Paradox: Having these fake ass pugs every week isnt helping anyone
    Apr 19, 2017 11:00 AM - Spike: I might do the vintage pugs every 2 weeks not every week
    Apr 19, 2017 11:02 AM - Spike: perhaps every week is abit much
    Apr 19, 2017 11:26 AM - Sgt.Security: Empires not populated on Sunday? What?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:27 AM - Sgt.Security: Well, even "well" populated, are you in a different timeline.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:32 AM - Sgt.Security: We don't need weekly PUGs, not even bi-weekly, don't even try to make up reasons, we just don't. If you make it once every 2 months I'll call you Jesus.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:39 AM - Sgt.Security: Sppon-feeding good games into people's mouth isn't gonna do us any good, you think people would stay and play regular pub games? No, they literally quit the game until next PUG because it happens every week anyway.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:47 AM - Spike: Bi weekly is fine i don't even recall you actually being at many pugs so why do you even care if there is a pug or not ?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Why do I care about the shit? I literally just said you are fucking killing our regular population.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Mr. I-have-created-4-PUGs-since-March-19th.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:54 AM - Sgt.Security: Keep thinking "all is well" with the PUGs, you don't see a problem because you see your server getting filled, you see people are having fun during PUGs. People also have fun while taking drugs, it must be good right?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:54 AM - Spike: Actually the population has been going down even since before i was creating pugs the population of empires has been going down for awhile now i highly doubt me putting up pugs will kill the population even more.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: Empires is an old game the population goes up and down people come back then leave again
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Sgt.Security: Has it occurred to you that I check our population on Steamchart every, goddamn, day? It says no, our current population is at a new low since Dec 2016. Keep in mind, this "new low" is with your PUGs there.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: empries population is about as unstable as the middle east
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: also alot of people only really show up to play pugs when they dont show up to play in regular pub games
    Apr 19, 2017 12:03 PM - McGyver: Get StarCraft for free: https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20674424
    Apr 19, 2017 12:05 PM - Spike: anyways im not going to bother sitting here arguing with someone who is so far up there own ass they cant see daylight i have better things to do than waste my time arguing with degenerates via shout box on the cesspool that is the empires forums.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Lazybum: starcraft sucks, red alert is superior in every way
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Spike: never played starcraft
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Lazybum: with age of empires being equal or better then red alert
    Apr 19, 2017 12:07 PM - Spike: only ever played red alert, command and conquer, age of empires and my favorite dawn of war
    Apr 19, 2017 12:07 PM - Lazybum: never played dawn of war
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - Spike: its great
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - Lazybum: kinda thought it was one of those total war games
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - vipervicki: hey I thought I killed empires, dont take my title away :P
    Apr 19, 2017 12:09 PM - Devourawr: looks awfully quiet in here
    Apr 19, 2017 12:09 PM - Spike: i dont the death of empires is really down to one person its just been a collective of things time being one of them empires is a decade old by now
    Apr 19, 2017 12:10 PM - vipervicki: i was joking imo I kept it alive for years..but some still say I kille dit,, it was ajoke
    Apr 19, 2017 12:11 PM - Spike: :3
    Apr 19, 2017 12:12 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Apr 19, 2017 12:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: vicki i also hold that title by 2nd place mean while my server adds new features boomheadshot :P
    Apr 19, 2017 12:37 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thank to the help of neoony, thexa, megamlg, polopl334, for you help :}
    Apr 19, 2017 12:40 PM - vipervicki: lol lizzy
    Apr 19, 2017 12:42 PM - vipervicki: your server does well every morning esb has poeple playing in the evening and during the day when we pay attention to the server. been too busy lately to bother with it though
    Apr 19, 2017 12:43 PM - vipervicki: your server is friendly I like that
    Apr 19, 2017 12:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: same here i have also give my admins more POWER so you guys can manage it better .... but most of it is now automated its all about the littile details
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: well all these ideas were the ideas i had with i was like 16 playing the game just started to impement them
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - vipervicki: ill show you one of the thigns Ive been so busy with..among others
    Apr 19, 2017 12:46 PM - vipervicki: hmm might have to uplaod it first
    Apr 19, 2017 12:49 PM - vipervicki: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 12:49 PM - vipervicki: my new puppy
    Apr 19, 2017 12:58 PM - Xyaminou: PUG Paranoia, didn't think that was a thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pugs are legit bad for the population, we've been through this once already
    Apr 19, 2017 1:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just look at steamcharts from the past 2 weeks http://steamcharts.com/app/17740#1m
    Apr 19, 2017 1:10 PM - Xyaminou: sure let's find correlation where there isn't any.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: george santayana is turning in his grave
    Apr 19, 2017 1:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 'sides, i think you're confusing correlation with causation
    Apr 19, 2017 1:11 PM - Xyaminou: is he undead? does he need to be killed? am I supposed to know who the fuck that is?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - Xyaminou: a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - Xyaminou: I am not
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if we're going into semantics, then the connection is clear as day - frequent pugs and a decrease in average playercounts are connected by time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - Xyaminou: no, they're not.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: He is so cute
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: is that a begal?>
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as per security's post in spike's pug thread: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rxg999ukttwinq/未命名5.png?dl=0
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - Xyaminou: lol that shows absolutely nothing
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: actually here's the post
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index...30-gmt-13-30-pst-16-30-est.20935/#post-543401
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this "nothing" is a drop in average population to nearly empty levels during the time of the summer league
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - Xyaminou: Empires is dead during summer, who would have guessed?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - Xyaminou: BECAUSE IT'S SUMMER
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: last summer, in july, we had 23.9 average players
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's four times more than in 2015.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:16 PM - Xyaminou: after the game was just revived...
    Apr 19, 2017 1:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: revived by what?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:17 PM - Xyaminou: really?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:18 PM - Xyaminou: by developpers, by if I remember it correctly them putting the game into free to play or something something
    Apr 19, 2017 1:23 PM - Xyaminou: have people really forgotten that the only reason we have players right now is because they revived the game?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:25 PM - Xyaminou: there's been a summer league EVERY YEAR and if you look at the other years, OH LOOK, no big difference like your one example to fit your dream.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: so please, learn statistics, learn analytics before you try to find connections that do not exist.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - Misfire: Yes a small revived by a number of things all around the same time. devs, people extra posting, friend's list invite pugs, seeding, youtubes and my bot "waiting room".
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - vipervicki: thx lizzy ypu a beagle
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - vipervicki: yup*
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: hey misfire
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - Misfire: Before these things player count was zero for weeks at a time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - Misfire: Hey Vicki!, nice picture.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: i agree with secuirty tho last time we had weekly pugs people lost interst
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: ty :)
    Apr 19, 2017 1:28 PM - vipervicki: it become mundane instead of something special
    Apr 19, 2017 1:28 PM - Misfire: All that said, I've not been a big fan of the special matches either.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - Xyaminou: because it is something "mundane"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: yeah once a month is good
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - Xyaminou: PUGs are just a more organized Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: you'll see if it continues so frequently
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: and if we are wrong then thats good too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Sgt.Security: Wait, can you find me the record of Summer League 2014 and 2013? I must've gotten so busy that I missed all the fun.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: When I requested the PUG plugin to scardybob the idea was to improve the organization in Empires games to be used every week-end
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - vipervicki: im jsut going by how it turne dout last time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: what record just look at steamcharts
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Xyaminou: last time it was on NUBS
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Misfire: SDK2013 came out, broke most MODS including Empires where players couldn't join without special command line options.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - vipervicki: someone said its been decreasing I dont bother with it since it doesnt count active players only
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Xyaminou: no need to look for any other 'cause why people don't want to play regular games on NUBS
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - vipervicki: yeah we lsot many during that time misfire
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Sgt.Security: You said that we've had summer league every year, but I don't recall a summer league in 2014&2013, I am not saying my memory is perfect but I just don't recall, so if you have a screenshot or video, I'll buy it, 100%.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Misfire: We still haven't recovered from that. I'm not disagreeing, but if were going to argue with facts and stats, let's include them all, not just the ones you like
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Sgt.Security: With that being said, no there's no related screenshot in my folder.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Xyaminou: trickster has been doing it every year for a few years
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - vipervicki: isnt my puppy adorable? he so funny too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:33 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not gonna search for it because this forum's search is absolutely awful
    Apr 19, 2017 1:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i went and looked around, the league of 2016 took four weeks week after week and was preceded by a pug, that's it
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: Yeah Vicki, I have to give Candles and other credit for getting Empires back up after SDk2013. Without that effort we probably wouldn't be here today
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: There are lots of mods that didn't survive
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: short bouts of activity are definitely beneficial, but having them that often eventually leads to a burning out that causes weekday games to crash and burn
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: Gotta run, have fun gang!
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - vipervicki: true Candles was a good dev
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: nice guy too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: k have a god one
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - Xyaminou: to look aronud where? on the event forums? you do realise Empires didn't start in 2015 right?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and it's better to have consistent average games than occasional great ones and a draught for the majority of time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: I agree Destroyer
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: empires didn't start in 2015, there was one "league" before that in the form of ESL, that took 4 games to resolve too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: no it's not better to have disorganized shit instead of having a plugin or in the lack of it, a player, that organizes it
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why the fuck we're talking about this, this is already what I do EVERY DAY on my server.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: please argue our point instead of jumping to another
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: advertising it doesn't change a thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: you don't have a point, thereore there is nothing to argue
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's objectively better to have means of organising things than not having them
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's also healthier for the game to have consistent games than a sinal graph of "good game" and "nothing"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - Xyaminou: My thread says: "I will be administrating on my server this sunday"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is my point
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - Xyaminou: if it's a crime to say that you and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can ignore it if you so desire, but it's right here
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: There are consistant games why do you think I put it on sunday instead of saturday, jesus.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not a crime to administrate, it's not a crime to organise pugs
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: my god you people are thick.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's bad for the game to have "pugs" every weekend.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: IT... IS... NOT
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: you have absolutely no proof whatsoever to support your insane theory.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if all you're going to do is take extra care about the quality of games, then forgo the "pug" name and just do your adminning
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - vipervicki: yup he will find that out no need to try and convince someone who thinks he knows it all
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - Xyaminou: I am not going to start a new naming standard just because of a few paranoid people
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: don't start one, just don't call it anything special
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: you only ned to ot Mr X in fornt of the pug :P
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - vipervicki: let him do what he wants and see the outcome
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: okay sorry I guess that wasn't clear enough, NO!
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: there
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: can't be any clearer.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: jk i am not mean lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - vipervicki: then we can say Mr X killed empires
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: you're not happy with it well too fucking bad.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: not i want to keep my 2nd spot if we do that you will talke 2 nd .
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and i get 3rd i like my silver :D
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - vipervicki: lol lizzy
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - Xyaminou: Why do I bother going on the forums full of piece of shit is really unknown.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - vipervicki: we gotta find mr x a 12 step empires therapy group for sure
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: george santayana said everything that needed to be said decades ago already
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - Xyaminou: oh please, if you don't know what to say then don't say anything don't go quoting unrelated phrases.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - Sgt.Security: Do you really think I would be up against one of few occasions where I get to stomp vets instead of newbs with 300 ping at 4AM, without reasons? Anyway, like I said, just keep spoon-feeding good games into people's mouth, weekly, in the end they will try to make normal pub games equally good because they enjoy, they will not just wait for the games to be served.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: prove me wrong, i'll be glad to be wrong
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - vipervicki: glad im not such an angry perosn gotta be bad for ones health
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - Sgt.Security: I would like to be proved wrong though.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - Xyaminou: "without reason", just because you think there is a reason doesn't make it so.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: to be honest i would not mind doing pug but they nver are really pugs i have not seen a captain chooes a team yet from spec
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Sgt.Security: Well, history's right there, you can always say there's no correlation, but still, you can take this as a friendly reminder. With that being said, go right ahead.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Xyaminou: they already knew the could rely on joining my server for the week-end to get a good game, nothing has changed, people still play on saturday because they can't play on sunday
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Xyaminou: NOTHING HAS CHANGED
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - Xyaminou: HISTORY is open to interpretation if you can't fucking understand that you really should go back to school
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and the same map as to be swithcd in side and limited time not 10000 hrs just like 30 mins or sormthing with
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - Sgt.Security: Like I said you can always say there's no correlation, there's none stopping you from doing so.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hypocritical to the max right there
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - vipervicki: people join your server because over the weekends others have been too busy t put time into another server. but glad your there to host games.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - Sgt.Security: I am just putting a sign here, I can't physically block you from doing things you want.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - Xyaminou: yes hypocritical because I don't agree with you, here we go;
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok guy ia m off ot watching porn ....
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - vipervicki: security havetn you learned yet if you disagree with mr x you are wrong lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hypocritical because you refuse to acknowledge our interpretation and instead consider it false from the get-go
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah lizzy i'm off to read last month's newspapers, those are a better use of time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: only because it is
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - vipervicki: must be an incredible burden always be right
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - Xyaminou: it is, you have no idea
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - vipervicki: im off to people to see places to go
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - vipervicki: lol x
    Apr 19, 2017 2:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is it still alright to call the UK, Great Britain?
    Apr 19, 2017 3:10 PM - flasche: its not the same
    Apr 19, 2017 3:11 PM - flasche: uk includes northern ireland
    Apr 19, 2017 3:11 PM - Thexa4: In case you want to know more about problems with handling dates: http://infiniteundo.com/post/25509354022/more-falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time
    Apr 19, 2017 3:15 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: "34. GMT and UTC are the same timezone." This is a false statement according to this post. take that bluesky
    Apr 19, 2017 3:18 PM - flasche: its wrong
    Apr 19, 2017 3:18 PM - flasche: GMT is the winter time in the timezone the uk is in. UTC is global
    Apr 19, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: TL;DR
    Apr 19, 2017 3:21 PM - Thexa4: UTC also doesn't stand for anything. The french wanted TUC, americans wanted UCT so they compromised :)
    Apr 19, 2017 3:21 PM - flasche: wiki says CUT
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: coordinated universal time
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - Thexa4: ah, yes, that's probably right
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: i bet if itd be CUT people would rather adapt to it
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 3:24 PM - flasche: also that list is hilarious "36. Time always goes forwards."
    Apr 19, 2017 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: the french are always right, you should know this by now
    Apr 19, 2017 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: wages
    Apr 19, 2017 3:28 PM - flasche: oh 200 at rank increase is interesting
    Apr 19, 2017 3:28 PM - flasche: why dont you get some for capping a flag?
    Apr 19, 2017 3:29 PM - flasche: but in general the list looks decent
    Apr 19, 2017 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: the 200 for emp_rank_increase is the cheat command
    Apr 19, 2017 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't actually give you 200 wages and 10 points for getting a new rank
    Apr 19, 2017 3:52 PM - flasche: aww
    Apr 19, 2017 3:52 PM - flasche: but i want mah 200 res
    Apr 19, 2017 3:55 PM - flasche: so in the long run you may be able to afford one med solely on wages in the endgame
    Apr 19, 2017 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: you shouldn't be able to afford anything on wages, but people want their treat.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: Behaving like dogs...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:05 PM - flasche: well i disagree
    Apr 19, 2017 4:06 PM - flasche: i dont think wages were the issue, i think that both resources were set too high and the removal of research costs also attributed to the flood of res we had to deal with in the recent years
    Apr 19, 2017 4:07 PM - flasche: ofc wages also added to it, but that doesnt mean they are bad. it only means resources never adapted.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: resources over which commander has no control = bad
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - flasche: because?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: because commander supremacy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:09 PM - flasche: but what does it matter to you when someone builds a jeep with their resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: or an apc
    Apr 19, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: especially since the team funds didnt get changed anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: unused resources are bad resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: not necessarily
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: only when you say "ok everyone get heavies and push"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: but before that you need to accumulate enough to have a decent heavy rush
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - flasche: i mean that wasnt a problem for years now as you often ended up with well over 10k res anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - flasche: even though people built tanks
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: try holding the map without spending resources on open maps
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: if it's balanced you can't
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: we were thinking a different scenario then
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: it's a RTS dude
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: its not
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: in RTS you build units constantly to keep map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: if you don't you lose map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: its a fps with some rts elements
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: engis can kill rifles
    Apr 19, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: in no rts this would be possible
    Apr 19, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: i mean in a 1 on 1 engi vs rifle
    Apr 19, 2017 4:15 PM - flasche: you can lose map control even if you pump out heavies like thered be no tomorrow
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: also in rts you can usually decide, a bunch of strong units or masses of weak units
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: also no option in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: as far as resource spending goes it behaves the same as an RTS.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: spend resources or lose map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: yes sure you need to spend res, but that doesnt mean saving for later is an invalid strategy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: and sure, its map dependent
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: it's not a bad idea, it's just an impractical one
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: also in rts you usually cant just buy 10 heavy units
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: in empires you can
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: in theory it's good, but in practice? no, build forces by keeping them grouped up and alive, don't hold resources.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: what about mass meds?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: dont spend much early on
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: build 10 meds in one go and push
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: ofc spending nothing wont work
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: but saving is valid
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: wages wont effect the saving, but it allows players to build one jeep or maybe one apc
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: That is the different between Empires and other RTS
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: sure on duststorm you better dont go down this road
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: there is no economy side
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so your income stays (assuming map control doesn't change) the same
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so early game you'll end up with extra resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so yes early game you can do big rush of AFVs and LTs
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: maybe even meds if you have absorbant and you're fast enough
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: or just build bases everywhere
    Apr 19, 2017 4:22 PM - flasche: i wouldnt say economy is non existent. it works differently. in the end empires is no true RTS.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: a mamoth tank is a mamoth tank. a heavy with a shit driver can be taken out by a light.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - Xyaminou: it is very close to non-existent, you can't spend money to increase your income, not just straight up.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: or a gren
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: or it takes out itself that can happen too
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: yeah well thats because in empires research revolves around tanks and tanks alone
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: at least originally
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: it got a bit weakened by enh. and upg. gren
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: but in general its still true with the exception of turret upgrades
    Apr 19, 2017 4:26 PM - flasche: but unless its a really small game turrets are a way to give the enemy points.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:27 PM - flasche: hell the whole of empires revolves around tanks. its tank here tank there and anyone dare making tanks not superimbadestroyeverything better wears a flameproof coat
    Apr 19, 2017 4:30 PM - flasche: but what you want? upkeep for tanks? thats not working out, you cant have either masses of weak or a few heavy hitting units.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:32 PM - flasche: youll always have about the same amount of players on each side
    Apr 19, 2017 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: economy based resource spending would be a goodstart
    Apr 19, 2017 4:34 PM - flasche: what you mean with that?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: I mean spend resources to have more income
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: upgrading refs fe?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: or global research that increases income?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: tho research doesnt cost anything anymore
    Apr 19, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't have to be global, doesn't have to be research.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: upgrading refs could be one thing
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: ideally it'd be a totally different building and technologies
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: but everything has to cost resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: everything
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: yes i agree there could be a lot done on this end
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: or there is no balance
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: i also never was the biggest fan of removing research costs
    Apr 19, 2017 4:38 PM - flasche: like when it was made official i said "i dont think its a good idea to remove one balancing factor"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:38 PM - flasche: i mean heavies did cost what 1200 res just for the research?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - flasche: thats something and it was a decision you had to make
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - Thexa4: if you want to have more economy things you'd have to find a way to reduce the problem of players and commanders having separate intrests but spending from the same pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: you mean ban people that don't act in the interest of the team? that's already what I do.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - flasche: well i see what thexa means
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Thexa4: no, I mean either aligning the intrests or giving them a separate pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: the design of the game is such that players want to spend everything as quickly as possible and the commander wants to save
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: but i think even though its abstract such research or upgrades would be in the interest of people
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: which results in friction
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: its like placing rax
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: sure, but I'd rather have a tank now, more fun :)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: like i said, i dont think the big picture is completely out of peoples mind
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Thexa4: it's too abstract while you're trying to shoot the guy that just killed you
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: s
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: actually you're wrong Thexa
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: As a commander I want players to spend resources as soon as possible
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: but thats empries thexa - a lot of things are abstract in the way that it doesnt immediatly promote a player
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: but in the long run its what decides the game
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: and players are usually too busy and tunnel visioned to come back to a VF and do it.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: especially buildings fall into that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: Empires n°1 is tunnel vision
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: n°1 problem*
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: what does it concern the 2/3rds of players not in tanks that you build a reppad
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: @X, I think we're talking about the same problem
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: like what I said yesterday
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: ive not heared a single complaint about it yet though
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: are we? 'cause you said "players want to spend asap, commanders don't"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: and its about the cost of 1 med
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: which is wrong.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Thexa4: yes, it's not the root problem, you're right about that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Thexa4: the underlying issue is that they have differing priorities
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: the root problem is Empires is, believe it or not, Empires is a roleplay game
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Thexa4: and spend from the same pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: in Empires you assume a role and you act according to that role
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: be it as a commander, a squad leader or an infantry
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: i like to think the playerbase commits to that when they play empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: you should act accordingly
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: the problem being that some players don't understand that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: and therefore they don't act accordingly
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Thexa4: ideally the game does that for you by providing you tools to act in certain ways
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: If you're in a team in Empires you should act in the interest of the team, not yours.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Thexa4: therefore making it more work to not play the role
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: the game design should make your intrest the same / part of making the team win
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: and some people still don't understand that.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: make people do the right thing through design instead of by force
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: it already does...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: design is force
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - flasche: well by design basically is by force :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: the fact that new players start the game by entering the CV is an indication that the design is wrong there
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: what flasche said
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: (for example)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: They came to play with tanks, we show them a tank, therefore they want to drive it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: how so?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: it's more of an example of the unwillingness to learn and stupidity of today's players.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: how doyou know they came to play with tanks?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: I came to teamplay
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: and what you gonna do about it?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: I came for combined arms
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: If you would make it less tank-like / look very fragile they wouldn't drive to the enemy base with it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: the only solution would be to get rid of comm
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't include tanks but it's not the only aspect of it.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Thexa4: no
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: and thats a crucial part of empries
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: but then it's not a tank
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Thexa4: if it was shaped like a toy car noobs wouldn't drive around with it :)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: and I mean shit how is driving anything into the enemy territory a good idea
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: but it would look incredibly stupid
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: yeah the fucking would
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: also the cv is anything but not weak at all
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Thexa4: sure
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't matter what you make it look like
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: but not getting into the cv really isnt the biggest issue empires has. that usually gets sorted out pretty fast by them getting either fsspaced or kicked of the server right away
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: if people don't understand it's not a good idea to drive into enemy force without second thought nothing you do will help
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why you assume everyone is capable of reasoning
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - MartinPL: When i see discussion about game itself and its problems i want to join but propably i gonna say something stupid and everyone gonna throw meat at me... well...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: some people are just brain damaged. that's just how it is.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: say something stupid martin
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: only xya will throw shit at you :P
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: martin considering the amount of stupidity that goes through forums no one would even notice
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Thexa4: in any case, if you're interested in the theory behind what I'm saying you can look at UX design
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Thexa4: Something like this: https://radishlab.com/2016/10/guiding-behavior-ux-design/
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: live and forget
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - MartinPL: oke... soooo... when we gonna get rid of Tanks spam? maybe invent somekind of AT vehicle? or when we gonna get return of artilery tank to game? it cost too much and does worse job than grenades throwen by engy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: oh I know theories I don't need to read a 100 pages to understand it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't change the fact that if you deal with retards it won't help.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - flasche: you will see less tankspam on servers with less resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: uh... Martin... have you not played on my server?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - flasche: tanks are anti tank vehicles
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: I got rid of tank spam.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: and if you think what you just said is stupid well think again
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: the issue with arty isnt only its cost, its also that too many drive arty
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: and no, they dont do a worse job than engi nades
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: so, when meds and heavies aren;t tanks? :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: Tanks are different with other apporaches
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: MBT are, yes, AT
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: in general tanks are anti tanks in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - MartinPL: But when you look about paper, scissors, rock mechanic, they aren;t for that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: except for HE and nukes their weaponry is AT
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: but you cannot research rockpaperscissor, thats not how the research system works in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: and you also lack the information to do that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: If you're talking about counters I'll just repeat what I always said: no counters without spying/scouting mechanics.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: you want to add counters? first add scouting/spying
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: add intelligence war.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: and even then counters wont work out
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: then you can consider adding counters
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: in most cases youll end up with one side having the counter to the other side and its GG
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - MartinPL: Scouting and spying.... scout is what for?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: but there's already grenadiers countering NF heavy tanks in Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: noone knows martin :P
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: not scouting
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: Scouting: finding out what your enemy is up to, to gather intelligence.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: in terms of getting info about the enemy research at least
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - MartinPL: well... i just stuck at WW2 games and approach of typical rock, paper, scissors tactics
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: In Empires it would mean finding what your enemy is researching.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: well first off Empires is not WW2, it's futuristic.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: but in these games you either can either always build rock paper an scissor at the same time
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: or nothing
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: scrap that either
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: secondly I don't see how there can be RPC in WW2 FPS. must have been terrible games.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - MartinPL: What about Drones or hacking attacks? why we can;t invent something that does automatically with long cooldown?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: who says we can't?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Spike: how to win in empries 2017 - Get advanced gren upgrade and BIO mg
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: it just hasn't been done.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: RPC?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: remote procedure call?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: Rock Paper oh shit it's S
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Spike: guided and extended range cannon
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: RPS* Rock Paper Scissors
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: oh lol
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - MartinPL: well... games dont end on FPS
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - MartinPL: and Empires isn't 100% fps
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: RTS work completely different from empires anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: There is still a commander
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: its not even close to be 50% RTS either
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: it is frankenstein
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: bit of this, bit of that and just mess when everyone does anything
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: again. in empires you cannot decide "spam a lot of weak units" or "build a few tough ones"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: I explained how to implement counters, don't know how else I can say it.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - MartinPL: thats why i ask about something automated
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - flasche: in empires a engineer can kill a rifleman in 1on1 - not possible in ANY rts
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: what do you mean automated?
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - MartinPL: enginer can kill rifleman... that reminds me something? aaa yes, good old quote from CoH2... "We prefer fighting the westernals, they always complaing about pioneer spam"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: the developers still have to CODE IT into the game, doesn't matter what kind of mechanic it is.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: ?????
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're talking about
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - MartinPL: you can't just put Ai bots into game because of known reasons
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - flasche: yeah because AI sucks
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - flasche: in fps more than in other games
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - MartinPL: and can't rely on scouts doing something else than being annoying with cloak or rifle...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: ???
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - MartinPL: soooo i see only a something working like shiny button that does what is needed for espionage to gather enemy intel
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're trying to communicate you're jumping from one subject to another completely inconsistently.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - MartinPL: enemy research, resources or something additional to that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: ???
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - flasche: i think he means espionage needs to be a button because you cant rely on the meta required if it would be players
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: I give up
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: OH
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - MartinPL: yeah, language barrier in nutshell
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: i got you covered
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - MartinPL: and quick chat isn't helping
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: I mean if you can't rely on players you shouldn't play Empires at all.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't matter what you do
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: but you cannot rely on players. thats the whole engi can kill rifle thing
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: If you can't rely on players to assume their roles then there is no Empires.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: what distinquishes empires from RTS
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - flasche: not because they dont want to fulfil a role, but because its unpredictable
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - MartinPL: So when we gonna pack our bags and leave? there is enough screams at people for not obeying orders AND if new people will come, they will give zero f's about someone screaming killspawn
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - flasche: in most RTS you can say x units of that will kill y units of that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Thexa4: you also have some rtsses with probablistic models
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - MartinPL: Worst case scenario leaves new people with only CS:GO knowledge to just shoot things and teabag a person
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: well technically flasche you have to micro your unit better than the other guy
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: you can't just rely on "go kill"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: Empires isn't that different in that aspect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: the more micro you provide to your guys the better they'll do
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: effectively diminishing the unreliable part
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - flasche: assuming the same level of micro its still like that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: assuming the guys aren't braindead
    Apr 19, 2017 5:09 PM - flasche: a unit hits x times each second. deals y damage and applies z effect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:09 PM - flasche: RTS is a whole lot more predictable in that respect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: you know exactly the hit animation takes .2 seconds
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - MartinPL: What i feel now is like completly miss the memo and come to the end of the party, like Empires, if not gonna get more and more people interested in its way, then what procedure we should do to not just make a grave for Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - Xyaminou: We should listen to Mr. X. he knows.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - MartinPL: How we can do something with the game to make new comers stay and have fun and not being screamed by veteran with XXX hours, not obeying his command
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: empires is in limbo for years now. but you have to consider the game is over 10 years old now
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: and a mod that is played regularily for 10 years, hey thats something to be proud of
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - MartinPL: Well, for me old games are waaaay better than today AAA titles
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: them staying has less to do with the game than it has to do with the players
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: so stop trying to accomodate
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: no the point martin
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: not*
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - MartinPL: *looking angry at ME:A quality"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:12 PM - Xyaminou: the sooner the devs accept they can't accomodate the game to everyone's liking they sooner we'll move forward
    Apr 19, 2017 5:12 PM - Xyaminou: and do more useful stuff
    Apr 19, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: probably would have kept more players if we acted in the interest of those who like the game instead of trying to make idiots like it.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - MartinPL: I have just that weird feeling when something is near end, i don;t want it to end... i know this is weird especially i joined ultra-super-late but still...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: i doubt that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: and even those who left with the reason "everything is shitty now" dont share a common picture
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: lol Empires isn't near the end, not even close.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - MartinPL: i still have good memories of when Empires was sourcemod and when i tried get back to it when There was Viper eu server...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - flasche: thats long after its prime already
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: well then I'll just go back to listen to me because I know better
     
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    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: don't know what else you want me to say
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - flasche: say flasche is the best
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - MartinPL: So i gonna crawl under catwalk you showed me sometime on atomic (it was atomic?)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: yeah no Viper is late Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: yes it was atomic
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: real Empires was on napalm's server and even before
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:18 PM - MartinPL: So for now we can call that Empires isn't dying but still need more people. What gonna change in game/server Mr. X? more fancy hangout places like on atomic? :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - A-z-K: Port to StarEngine!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: there's plenty changing on my server
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: I already revived Empires as much as I could
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: unless you listen to the usual naysayers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: MrX, you are one of the biggest people saying let this game die
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - MartinPL: For me only things that kills me inside in Empires is Nother Faction new jeep... i want the old one. D:
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: said by the King of the naysayers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: and yet I have a server on which I revived the game to it's true self
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: its*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: yes the new jeep is shit
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: lol try doing that for over 5 years then talk to me
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: dt
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: did u see my post about emp_landing?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: oh fuck off Vicki if you didn't like hosting a server you shouldn't have instead of constantly fucking crying about it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: looks good but i got 1 texture missing
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: and trump, where's the download for your maps?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: lol wasnt crying showing u u didnt accomplish much as u think u have
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - MartinPL: I would love to learn 3D modeling but porting it to source is so bad that i would prefer to learn making games in Unity than trying again port something to this grandpa
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: learn to read asswipe
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: sure I'll take the word of a retard for it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah martin don't waste your time learning source, it's old, it's dead, no point.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - vipervicki: do you know why that texture is missing?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: Empires isn't worth it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Thexa4: We have tooling available to convert stuff from blender to ingame, if there's something you have trouble with, let us know, we can add more tooling to make it easier
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM - MartinPL: Source gonna be infinite thanks to huge space of ragdolls and fancy models used in gmod and SFM but yeah, source is a wreck
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM - MartinPL: THERE IS?!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - A-z-K: where to send flowers?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - vipervicki: guess he doesnt know :(
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - A-z-K: family flowers only?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Thexa4: https://wiki.empiresmod.com/Modeling
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - MartinPL: Holy damn, if there is ultra simple way to not play a RNG game with all porting scripting and fixing 99 problems with those i would love to get back into it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Thexa4: and https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: martin
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: if you need help with blender to source
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: ask
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - MartinPL: Maybe i just too much exploded but still i gonna need to learn 3D modeling anyway to fullfill my modding "job" in other game so i can catch this thing too
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: unless its with animating and rigging im in the process of understanding why the fuck i that fucking shit doesnt work like thexa wants it to
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:28 PM - MartinPL: animating. You can just call it black magic
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Spyer: Best shoutout box
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - MartinPL: In simple naming, i would just simply throw tanks at blender and get back something that works in source... if this is possible i gonna probably fulfill my hard drive with 1946 Reich tank industry in no time
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Spyer: 10/10
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Xyaminou: Best forums ever!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - MartinPL: "Nother faction hired misterious man and ended with E-tank program"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: best search function ever.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: or how to not find anything.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: Northern*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - MartinPL: Thanks, Mr. X
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:33 PM - MartinPL: Anyway... trivia question. Why Northern Faction have light tank so low, but later have everything huge as possible?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Xyaminou: you'd have to ask Don Megel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: when ever i keep seeing a NF med tank, i keep thinking that it's a British Mark V with a cannon on the top of it with missile launchers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: and can move fast as hell
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:35 PM - MartinPL: Med is ultra weird
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:36 PM - MartinPL: Because if model isn't a big joke then its tracks are acceleraded by 1 big wheel in middle of body... Where it would fit Engine, drive and Combat space for turret loader?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - MartinPL: remember kids, don't write too fast... everything is lost
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: the LT looks like someone took six big water floats, strapped to a truck, and said, "Eh, good enough."
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - MartinPL: i try again
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:38 PM - MartinPL: NF Med have on its sides Big wheel to accelerate tank tracks, but how it can contain in its hull, engine, drive for those big wheels and combat space to have gun loader?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:38 PM - MartinPL: Technically everything should be in middle of its hull
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:39 PM - MartinPL: "It is big and fancy and have no sense, PERFECT!"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: are you thinking of the heavy tanks?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - MartinPL: If i had live chance i would prefer to make new Med for NF that is less junky and more proper designed. Have some space for its proper parts and stuff. Of course whole body track system isn't blocked. French WW2 tanks had those and worked so, there we can take some inspiration
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i don't see a big wheel of the med
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:41 PM - MartinPL: Look inside the model of Medium tank. It have weird Big wheels on its sides, giving weird feel that those are propelling it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:41 PM - MartinPL: i could just launch Gmod, wait 30 minutes to load (shit ton GB of random useless WW2 stuff) and make some shoots of it from inside
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:42 PM - MartinPL: And for light tank
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:42 PM - flasche: did you make any of those models?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - MartinPL: It have a sense, look at french panhard EBR
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: also you mean the NF heavy
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: the med doesnt have this big wheel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: if its a wheel at all - who knows
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: and thats the medium
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:46 PM - MartinPL: I remember correctly than both or just med have BEHIND the mesh a big wheel on sides that propels the tank treads
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: whatever propells the tanks is not visible in engine
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: the actualy wheels it rests on
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is there any way to view the wheel from within the tank?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - MartinPL: Still some stuff from NF is triggering me more and more i look at it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: there is no modeled wheel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - MartinPL: Aaaand somehow it gives easier job to Berondi empire, it isn;t that hard to hit NF later tanks :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:50 PM - MartinPL: Mr. X said that Empires is focused on Futuristic approach, so MBTs and no AT tanks, i can dig it but still it is... weird that NF later goes into big tanks and ignores the nice size of light tank
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: empires is not futuristic, its on a whole different planet with a whole different everything
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: for all we know it could be in the past aswell, it has nothing to do with reality (story wise, yet the nf med clearly is a leopard)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: i mean be med sry
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: also please throw "its not realistic" out of your mind when it comes to games
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: realistic games would be boring as fuck
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: oh what i cannot carry shitloads of rockets mortar shells and mines as grenadier?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: like seriously that breaks my immersion
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - MartinPL: Why not make better launcher that can use both type of rounds?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Thexa4: things should still look like they are designed for the job they perform
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: it is the same model in case you have not noticed
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I guess calling it futuristic was a bit of a misnomer
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Xyaminou: parallele universe
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: they look like tanks thexa
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: i mean theyre not ideal from a gameplay perspective, the huge difference in silhouettes is shitty, but the general design says "mean tank"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Thexa4: sure, but the shape they have makes them really unsuitable to drive IRL, and we feel that in the vehicle handling for example
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - MartinPL: Empires is only place that could be like experimental side to test on side, the visual approach of it. People who knows Empires still gonna play anyway until main mechanics would be tampered
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - MartinPL: What i mean, Empires still can be live or dead and visual changing isn't clearly set as "100% do not try change anything", because of new berondi radar/camera and ulgy nf jeep
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - A-z-K: Change anything in empires and people will come round your house and set fire to your lawn, even if it is great
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: nf med and heavy are designed after the leman russ from warhammer40k which are designed after british ww1 tanks (mark iv or v or smthg)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: ^
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: tho im not so sure whether a lower profile nf heavy wouldnt be welcomed
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - MartinPL: well Azk, i would love it to see :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - flasche: the nf jeep isnt ugly what are you on?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - A-z-K: The new NF jeep is about a million times better than the old one
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - A-z-K: The LT is ok, everything else is trash.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - MartinPL: For me new NF jeep is ugly because jeep shouldn;t be lower than lowrider... it looks weird for me
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - A-z-K: Looks like a dune buggy
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - A-z-K: BE jeep is low too
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: first of all it shouldnt be called jeep if we are going to be precise
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - A-z-K: I imagine making them ride any higher would make them handle like jelly
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: jeep is a brand
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: and the old model was low aswell and you said it was better
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - MartinPL: oke, Military utility vehicle
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: you make up agruments
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - MartinPL: but had smaller wheels
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: which is totally sane to do?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - MartinPL: so it look kinda better for me, still everything would need some refreshment
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: because its not for offroad purpose
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:02 PM - MartinPL: some maps are very bumpy, yet we have vehicles not intended for it... then... what
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - A-z-K: BE needs a nice 5 door Sports Utility Vehicle to meet the needs of the Empire's modern mother on the go.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Thexa4: It's called an APC :)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - MartinPL: Good, we can bring whole family to emp_forest!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - A-z-K: Need to get 3 kids & the dog from C5 hill to A2? BE SUV is the answer. And low, low maintenance costs
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - MartinPL: Just we need more love for bio diesel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - A-z-K: I highly suggest getting the undercoat - good for 50'000 miles & full 3 year warranty
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM - Thexa4: Sustainable empires
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM - MartinPL: Dear diary, i had fun talking about poking a stick at how Empires NF vehicles have no sense for me. Now... preparing 5 year plan at the Gulag called Blender
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:13 PM - A-z-K: Don't worry - we'l all still be here when you get out
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM - A-z-K: Xya will still be laying the smack down like a geriatric grandad with a drinking problem making everyone cry at family dinner
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Spyer: And I would not have it any other way
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Xyaminou: I will
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM - A-z-K: Someone has to do it, at least his gammar is good
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM - MartinPL: Thats why Empires could be great occasion to learn 3D modeling for. If i fail, things gonna be ignored, if it gonna be good, then it have chance to be new model for vehicle. It is opportunity i trying to take
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - A-z-K: Best case scenario - Xya only gives you another 10 years in the Gulag
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - MartinPL: Yep
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: do it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - MartinPL: "JUST DO IT"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - A-z-K: chop chop
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: but be reminded youll need to make your own models not just rip stuff of the the intertubes
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - MartinPL: Do i look like "made in china"? :P
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: honest answer? :P
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: everything is made in china those days
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: no jk
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: does that include kids?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM - flasche: i thought china is getting too expensive nowerdays?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM - flasche: you gotta go with time
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:23 PM - MartinPL: i have small liking over Japanese WW2 cans, that makes me asian enough to banzai?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:24 PM - MartinPL: now i reminded myself i can't draw concept of vehicles... well, i'm best at being a tank designer... :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Xyaminou: gonna test mikleo's plugin if anyone is interesting
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Xyaminou: interested*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - MartinPL: What test needs?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know yet, but usually the more we are the better.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM - MartinPL: well it still gonna be 5 year gulag so i have time to spare, i gonna join
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: take your time, the plugin isn't booting just yet lol.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:37 PM - MartinPL: i just hit join... still i listening to music :)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: alright the plugin seems to be starting now
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM - Vdragon: what does the plugin do?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: lets you pick players for PUGs
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: read his thread for more info
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: have i said "fucking source engine" yet?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: if not "fucking source engine"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:07 AM - Ranger: Steam down. Time to panic. *heavy breathing*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:21 AM - A-z-K: We can survive
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:23 AM - BigTeef: People don't talk to me enough for me to notice when steam breaks.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Smithy: That's so sad
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Ranger: D:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: I can keep going
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - BigTeef: How the fuck is it sad? I don't want to be fucking bothered. Half the time people message me is when im jacking off or going to bed.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - flasche: yey
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Smithy: Almost endless supply
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - BigTeef: I kind of like this feature of images automatically putting img tags on themselves.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: MOAR
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: i like how it doesnt do that when you want it ...
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: why do crying pix make me smile
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: im weird
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - BigTeef: You had a baby for an avatar for years now
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - BigTeef: You just noticed
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: the baby is awesome
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: too bad its not perfect loop
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: i could watch it for days
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - BigTeef: Well im content with having a fucktard on twitter looking nearly identical to me
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - BigTeef: Except hes a fucking huge MRA with an asian girlfriend
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: As complete
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: that was the other candidate but i liked the spoon more
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: Ask*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: Hes the one who showed me this tard.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Ranger: Whathefuck that kid
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: oh humans why do they have to grow up
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Smithy: Well, now I'm bored
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: and then we think were smart
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - BigTeef: To fuck up the country
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:34 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: babies clearly are the better humans
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: oh yeah gijoe action figures
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:49 AM - BigTeef: http://www.whompcomic.com/comics/1491975993-2017-4-12-Friends-Free.jpg
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:56 AM - flasche: thats saddening
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:56 AM - flasche: it happened to me once
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: called my mum, shes dead now for 8 years. and i still know her number out of my head
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: wheeee fun things to talk about
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: ^^
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:03 AM - complete_: cuck c johnson
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:04 AM - complete_: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:28 AM - BigTeef: why do I love small face memes so much
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:34 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:38 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'm having a fun night messing with config files
    Apr 20, 2017 at 2:34 AM - BigTeef: http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news...arrested-after-cops-find-63-jobs-in-basement/
     
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    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:10 AM - A-z-K: Heyyyy I know that site. I live there
    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM - A-z-K: http://southendnewsnetwork.com/actualnews/english-defence-league-falls/
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:41 AM - McGyver: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zara-pepe-the-frog-skirt_us_58f7592ae4b029063d356362
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 PM - A-z-K: To be honest I didnt realise that about pepe the frog
    Apr 20, 2017 at 2:54 PM - Ranger: ree?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: meh
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Ranger: So now there are two french servers?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i was having the worst time in my life dealing with configs last night
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:36 PM - flasche: x branded lol
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:36 PM - flasche: people .........
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: what configs?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: trying to improve fps on one of my games i have. part of it apparently had a connection improvement as well. wouldn't mind it, but i keeps doing some "ping measurement," at which my ping get fucked hard in the ass
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: it keeps doing*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i fix it myself, i just need to remove them
    Apr 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Ranger: http://i.imgur.com/16sA4Zc.jpg
    Apr 20, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: :jelly:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Kidpaler: Lord, how did you do that?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Kidpaler: I want there to be flowers on the ground, how did you get flowers on the ground>
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:28 PM - flasche: oh lord - how did you get the - flowers on the groud? - my friends all got grass there - a way must be found
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - flasche: also goddamit where is my mercedes
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Kidpaler: I'm honestly curious because I thought it was during the compile that the grass is generated from the detai.vbsp and I know I only had grass show up on mine during compile, so that means he has a copy that he did with flowers
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Kidpaler: And I want those damn flowers.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Kidpaler: Speaking of which, when 2.13 comes out new version of Forestattack for low pop times that will probably include some bots for you to command around. If I can get that working without crashes.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - flasche: "yey" bots
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Kidpaler: Well, it will also depend which type of bot. Could get the ones that just roam around on their own, or the ones that take player squad orders
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Ranger: At least we will be able to kill something with the lmg.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:31 PM - flasche: my "yey" stays no matter which bots
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Kidpaler: heh, yea, right. Currently, bots are like turrets meaning if you get withint ehir general range you are dead.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:33 PM - flasche: they always be like turrets. turrets that RNG if you die or not, turrets still
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:33 PM - flasche: like for example if you stand still humans often dont see you
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: bots see you, they only might decide they dont act like they would
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: nt
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: and decide really only means roll dice
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - flasche: bot would be neat for mapping though. but i wonder if they will work for comm maps so soon!?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - Kidpaler: They can't get in vehicles, but commanders can command infantry bots around.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - Kidpaler: And they can E build structures atm
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:37 PM - Kidpaler: So, they kind of work for commanders?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Ranger: 100% accuracy?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - flasche: well i mean itd be nice for testing out maps
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - flasche: but i dont want to play against cheaters online
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Xyaminou: bots = bad
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Kidpaler: I mean, they can be made to be inaccurate, and no they aren't bad.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM - Xyaminou: yes you're right, they're worse than bad.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:48 PM - Ranger: They are the embodiment of evil.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: bored
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:55 PM - Spyer: Fucking pub empires is the most annoying thing ever
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:55 PM - Spyer: I understand if you are stupid, take your time to learn things
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:56 PM - Spyer: But could you not be pants on retarted all the time
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 20, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: fuck it let's seed
    Apr 20, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Thexa4: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:33 PM - Thexa4: ;
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - flasche: ;there is no squadchat here
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: ADD CHANNELS
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: AND VOICE
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: . ref please
     
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    Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM - Neoony: wtf
    Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/375c245aca975cd7495164717ae6900f.png
    Apr 21, 2017 12:09 PM - Neoony: TEEF!! Get your steam away from my forums profile. wtf xD
    Apr 21, 2017 12:09 PM - Neoony: guess thats some glitch xD
    Apr 21, 2017 12:10 PM - Neoony: forums totally failed placing this one xD https://i.gyazo.com/cf5113e578066eb3aafcad167cfd5312.png
    Apr 21, 2017 12:21 PM - Neoony: hmmmm
    Apr 21, 2017 12:22 PM - Neoony: a ref request plugin....hmmmmmm
    Apr 21, 2017 12:29 PM - BigTeef: https://images.washingtonpost.com/?....jpeg&w=1484&op=resize&opt=1&filter=antialias
    Apr 21, 2017 12:29 PM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 21, 2017 1:33 PM - Thexa4: :
    Apr 21, 2017 1:34 PM - Xyaminou: /kick thexa4 spam
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: we should test fuel today, I changed the tickets.
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: but we'd need like 21vs21
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: to see if it makes the middle flag a POI
    Apr 21, 2017 2:24 PM - Xyaminou: I actually changed tickets on all the maps to be ((maxplayers-2)/2)*100+1
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: basically 10 tickets per player +1 for the commander
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: *10 btw no *100
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: can't fucking edit the shoutbox
    Apr 21, 2017 2:26 PM - Xyaminou: here
    Apr 21, 2017 4:03 PM - Ranger: He's HAWT.
    Apr 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Ranger: 10? I can't tell it's not a good number even without testing thanks to my powerful almighty brain.
    Apr 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: good news, I may get my 500/200mbit sooner than expected
    Apr 21, 2017 4:26 PM - Thexa4: ☃
    Apr 21, 2017 4:27 PM - Thexa4: 200 upload would be nice to have :)
    Apr 21, 2017 4:29 PM - Xyaminou: slowDL would finally become fastDL
    Apr 21, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: in before I lose internet BEFORE they transfer the line
    Apr 21, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: but yeah the date for fastDL is 02 of may
    Apr 21, 2017 5:09 PM - Lazybum: Ya know I coulda sworn utc was 5 hours ahead of est but no, it's 4
    Apr 21, 2017 5:09 PM - Lazybum: Feels like I missed a couple of things because of that
    Apr 21, 2017 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: wait that's in like 2h
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum you event time announcer says 22nd
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: and your thread says 21st
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: you goofed up
    Apr 21, 2017 5:32 PM - Neoony: just following the standards :D
    Apr 21, 2017 5:33 PM - Xyaminou: lol, hey I fixed mine pretty quick :p
    Apr 21, 2017 5:34 PM - Neoony: :)
    Apr 21, 2017 5:36 PM - Lazybum: whoops
    Apr 21, 2017 5:36 PM - Lazybum: is fixed now
    Apr 21, 2017 6:03 PM - flasche: the announcement is nice
    Apr 21, 2017 6:04 PM - Neoony: :P
    Apr 21, 2017 6:05 PM - Neoony: I shall be there xD
    Apr 21, 2017 6:08 PM - Thexa4: cool
    Apr 21, 2017 6:20 PM - Xyaminou: wtf
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: personal intrusion
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: the forum is talking to me
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: it's sentient
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: run
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - flasche: thats a neat feature :D
    Apr 21, 2017 6:22 PM - Neoony: Forums AI
    Apr 21, 2017 6:28 PM - Ranger: lazybum got spiked
    Apr 21, 2017 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: neat feature that's never used
    Apr 21, 2017 6:40 PM - Lazybum: Uhh, I hope to be there?
    Apr 21, 2017 6:41 PM - Lazybum: oh, annoucement is seen all over the forums, not just the homepage or whatever this is called
    Apr 21, 2017 6:46 PM - flasche: just close it if it bugs you
    Apr 21, 2017 6:50 PM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 21, 2017 8:44 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah lazy I guess its a good way to remind people
    Apr 21, 2017 9:28 PM - Ranger: lol read an article saying surgical airstrikes in north korea are unlikely cuz they put their impotant stuff and bombs deep underground
    Apr 21, 2017 9:31 PM - Ranger: "Massive Ordnance Penetrator"
    Apr 21, 2017 11:16 PM - A-z-K: Cool the forum has event announcements
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: no it doesn't
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: my PUG isn't announced so it doesn't
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: anyway Empires fucking sucks
    Apr 22, 2017 12:11 AM - Thexa4: You should be able to add an event to your thread, it'll then appear here: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?calendar/
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what I'm supposed to do
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: please provide non 20-year-old forums
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: that are user friendly
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: I clicked literally everywhere
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: nothing happened
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: no idea why you linked that
    Apr 22, 2017 12:33 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 22, 2017 1:14 AM - BigTeef: " We would love to see you there BigTeef!"
    Apr 22, 2017 1:14 AM - BigTeef: Whoever the fuck would love to see me there needs to talk to a psychiatrist
    Apr 22, 2017 1:27 AM - A-z-K: I'd love to see you there
    Apr 22, 2017 1:28 AM - A-z-K: Imma sign up solely for that reason
    Apr 22, 2017 2:22 AM - Lawliet: Hello Tama
    Apr 22, 2017 2:26 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i had things to say and then i remembered
     
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    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: omfg I just realised the calendar on steam groups starts on sundays, fucking retarded american dates.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: events were all wrong
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's some judaism shit right there
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Just read an article about a guy in Panama City, Florida got jailed for stabbing a another guy in an argument over how much spice should be put in a pot of gumbo
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in the times of yore, sunday was the first day of the week
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: old testament shit. And new testament too.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jesus got up on the first day of the week, for starters
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're saying destroyer
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sundays are the first day of the week for judaism-based societies
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Xyaminou: steam is retarded, god it.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: got*
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i mean, if you "god it", maybe it'll turn to the gregorian interpretation of sunday being the last day
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Xyaminou: these forums are dead
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Lazybum: To add your events to the calender click the thread tool button near the top of the thread. It's on the same bar as the page selection.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Lazybum: you should see "add to calender" under the thread tools
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Lazybum: only thread creators can do that I think, so if you make an event thread you yourself have to add it
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Paradox: can u also remove it
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Paradox: like so it never shows?
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Thexa4: You don't see it if you're playing empires :)
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Paradox: ow u can just click it away lol
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum, I checked, I can't, it's probably only forum admins DUH!
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Lazybum: ah
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Lazybum: well that's confusing, because I can only add threads I create
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Lazybum: so I would assume it's just thread makers, oh well
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: so basically no one knows how these forums even work, got it.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Thexa4: mods can now add events
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: glad we have 20 years old forums that nobody knows anything about.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Thexa4: Beta is happening right now, join up! :)
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: well to be honest I thought it was just up to mods to add events, but I couldn't add anyone elses, so i thought you just had to make the thread
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: I don't even know or remember what you see if you don't have mod powers
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Thexa4: I gave you permission to add calendar items to other threads as well
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: oh ok
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: cool
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Thexa4: without mod you can't add them
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM - Thexa4: So if anyone wants an event to be on the calendar, ask nicely
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it took us about 30 seconds of playing to crash the server :D
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Neoony: not like the calendar is anyhow noticable
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Neoony: So Iam for "notices" even for pugs/events :P
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM - Neoony: hmm guess something is up again with steam community....according to this: https://i.gyazo.com/18d80c4e7f371954e8da327f13a12c9e.png devs are the only ones playing the game xD
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM - Neoony: but pretty sure this happened before :P
    Apr 22, 2017 at 9:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: had this for a good while now
    Apr 23, 2017 at 3:29 AM - Ranger: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1D15p_vdP3HkrH8wgjQRw/videos
     
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    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just realised i miss zoom being here
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: even though the bastard spent the past two days laughing at literally everything i do in warframe
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:20 PM - NekoBaron: Wheres the option to delete my empires forum account? I resent this place illigaly keeping my data, who do I sue?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - James: Eh, that would be me
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - James: Considering I set this entire place up, and got left with nothing but a angry kid on my dick
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: Shoutbox suddenly took a very dark turn...
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - NekoBaron: Racist
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: Dark turn as in black people?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: I swear I'm not black!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: Only from the waist down atleast ;)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ok what just happened
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: uh is james back?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: I thought the dev team jousted james
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: All hail king james
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - NekoBaron: I as quite serrious though, wheres the option to delete my forum account?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Paradox: there is none
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:29 PM - NekoBaron: I think we can sue then since I dont want empires holding onto my data anymore, I should be able to freely delete my account.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have been here for three messages and are already stirring up shit
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Paradox: neko it depends if there was a disclaimer when u signed up
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Paradox: also dont u have to be older than X age to voluntarily sue someone?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Paradox: and arent u like 14?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: message a forum administrator with the deletion request instead of causing trouble
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM - NekoBaron: I just want my account/details/information to be deleted and removed, theres no reason for not having the option be there, I shouldnt have to message admins for a basic account deletion request.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's just, like, your opinion, man
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM - NekoBaron: you can call it opinion or you can call it the law.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you show me some relevant passages regarding this? I'm far from an expert in the field
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Xyaminou: ah finally some drama, it had been too long!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Mikleo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Mikleo: but its only for big issues
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i only skimmed but it seems to mostly pertain to search engines and surely doesnt say anything about needing an automated process; quite the opposite, in fact
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:45 PM - NekoBaron: theres other laws, and skim reading it is not the same as knowing it.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Ranger: I DEMAND JUSTICE
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Ranger: TO THE GALLOWS
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course not. if you were implying that you do know it, can you show something for it?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Ranger: I have a large team of expert lawyers working on this, including Matt Murdock. You guys are screwed.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Ranger: Also wtf, le wild James magically appeared.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:09 PM - Xyaminou: hey mikleo, any chance you can remove the 2 minutes lock before the PUG starts?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: it's clearly an AI replacing James
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: that has been spying on us all along
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: it got triggered by "sue"
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: lol
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: Neko baron talking like donald trump
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: Its the law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: does not specify which law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: doesnt specificy shit, he just assumes its the law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Paradox: also Idk where this server is located
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Paradox: but its only the law if its the law in the country this serve ris located
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Thexa4: legal entity is hosted in the Netherlands
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: I doubt neko baron knows jack shit abou the law in netherland
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: so shuv it up your ass neko
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: with your donald trumpesque talk
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: disgusting
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Thexa4: please stop insulting people
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Paradox: I just told him to shuv it up his ass
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Paradox: barely insulting if you ask me
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Thexa4: whatever it is, please stop
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:25 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: wait - they have law in the netherlands?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Thexa4: we're very good at taxes :)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:41 PM - A-z-K: Neko I'm downloading all your empires data now and I'm going to sell it on the dark Web for whippets
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Paradox: azk the real internet rebel
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Paradox: pug in an hour!!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:01 PM - Kidpaler: Security couldn't be more right. Days of PUGS are usually dead till PUG time
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: WARMUP STARTING IN 3 MINUTES!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 8:03 PM - Paradox: 24 people playing a pug lol SAD
    Apr 23, 2017 at 10:31 PM - complete_: im sending in a legal threat to CBS Interactive so that they delete my gameFAQs account because of this totally existing law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 10:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: here's a question for empires experts, how long is the delay to repairing on a repair pad after taking damage to your tank?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:00 PM - complete_: you know a jump takes 3/14ths but not how long until a repair pad repairs? (the answer is not long enough to care about it)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Ranger: I'm not expert but I've heard it's supposed to be 20 seconds after taking the hit. I have not noticed such delay. It feels to me it's less than 20.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Lazybum: 10 seconds would make more sense, but I feel like it's only 5
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Lazybum: 3 or 5, not long at all
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Lawliet: Depends on if you are bio'd
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM - MartinPL: .
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM - MartinPL: finally shoutbox is live for me... damn bugs
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:26 PM - MartinPL: oh dammit, refreshing site kills shoutbox again :|
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I hope some people enjoyed the PUG.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: I DIDN'T
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: >:(
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: oh poo, stupid emoticons
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: one day I'll get to play in pugs again, one day....
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: Vote in my testing times thread plz
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: Muy importante
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum you need to put UTC times instead of night/day etc...
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause an american voting for "night" isn't the same as a european voting for "night"
    Apr 24, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Lazybum: read that last sentence plz
    Apr 24, 2017 at 1:14 AM - BigTeef: Okay
    Apr 24, 2017 at 1:14 AM - BigTeef: [Window Title] Microsoft Windows Search Indexer [Main Instruction] Microsoft Windows Search Indexer has stopped working [Content] Windows is checking for a solution to the problem... [Cancel]
     
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    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: bad players believing exact timings aren't important are not "experts" tyvm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guess i will need a helpful to check it out ingame
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: helpful soul*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'm some what pissed now
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i spent all morning to complete a study guide for english just to find out she dropped the due date
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: fucking hell
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's fine, you have it ready(ier) for later
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we going though a book called Night
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we're*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Lawliet: Night is gud
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: you mean Good Night?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Lawliet: No
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Lawliet: Night by Elie Wiesel
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Lazybum: It's a book alright
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Lazybum: a bit dry ot be honest
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Xyaminou: what is "book"? what do you do with it?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM - BigTeef:
    Apr 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: wtf happened to hipchat?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Minato: I'm a simple man, I see Kumiko and I hit like
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: anyone wanna play alien swarm?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm gonna shout at people during the long may weekend
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so, come friday, yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i thought you didn't like that type of games though?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:14 PM - Xyaminou: pew pew
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM - Vdragon: i wanna
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM - Vdragon: too l8?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: nah
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: get on steam
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:59 PM - Neoony: oh new alien swarm? :o
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:08 PM - Xyaminou: new campaigns, get in steam
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:23 PM - PwnedYoAss: Alien Swarm, has new content?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:23 PM - PwnedYoAss: SHIIIITTTT that sounds awesome
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: we'll probably play some more tomorrow just send me a PM
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: done for today
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:54 PM - BigTeef: ScardyBob if you are reading this shit, put your empires tutorial videos in a playlist.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what empires tutorials?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Lazybum: Don't think i ever played alien swarm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you should play alien swarm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Lazybum: I don't remember it sounding super exciting though
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just...with friendos
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Lazybum: just pew pew til theres nothing to pew pew
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sounds like killing floor :P
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Lazybum: oh wait it's top down, that's hte thing I didnt like
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also not true, there are objectives on the map to fulfill, and they are the actual goal; aliens are just obstacles best removed with lead
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can't argue with that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: kf2 exemplifies things going sideways in the worst possible ways
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: it's not bad, requires a fair bit of coordination, but not too much to be annoying. But yeah it's pew pew at aliens, just shoot aliens are relax.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: and that's what makes it great, super exciting stuff there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: its like whenever everything goes wrong in dnd
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: good times
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: good point, DnD when?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still waiting for dnd, lazybum
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya: there's a lot of variables regarding my stuff, the biggest limiting factor being the main party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Lazybum: whos in the main party?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wired/zeke/xellos/zoom
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: zeke rolled a bard with +11 to persuasion
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and keeps rolling high teens on persuasion checks
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Lazybum: what happened to that other dude, dwarf cleric?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so we keep seeing 30 rolls
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Lazybum: sounds like that rogue with 11 to stealth teef played in something
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we had a disagreement and he decided against playing
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: that's what bards are for :p
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: talk you were out of everything
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Lazybum: boooooo
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: did he get high deception too?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plenty deception
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: wait bodyleakage stopped for good?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: for good with that party/campaign, not with dnd
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: campaign or world?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: campaign
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: right so same as me
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: it's a silly campaign, not enough dancing in there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: wait x is done too?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: ddd you losing all your players, what gives?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'll get you reading materials as soon as the party clears up one important detail, but we're having IRL scheduling issues so it might be a while
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah xya is done, i should get VODs up :P
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: long story short, vampires don't respect olin, and guards are dumb
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: something something murderhobo party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Lazybum: lol, but at least his character is still not dead right?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: he didn't "lose" me
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no, but he spent 2~ sessions unconscious and/or tied up in a dungeon
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: nah Olin is alive if anything...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now he resigned himself to religion
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: well...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Lazybum: the wizard found god?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which xya assured me was a temporary thing, but as i said, one important detail requires the party to be resolved
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Xyaminou: well you know Olin
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Lazybum: sounds a bit suspect to me, he's pulling another con I tell ya what
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Lazybum: oh
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still disappointed party didn't go for that medusa thing i prepared
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: you could have been even more disappointed 'cause I wanted to skip the laura encounter too
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: Olin wasn't going to go check out the noises
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm 99% sure that it'd be a laura thing where i'm the only person interested in what'd happen
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which noises?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: went north to find paladin, find paladin
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: when we got into town
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh yeah that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well, paladin's still out there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: we were going to the inn, we heard noises, Olin would have just ignored it if it wasn't for the others.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now i'm considering ending the campaign if i ever TPK the party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: going elsewhere
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or back in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: we went north to find paladin, so find paladin, fuck policing the town.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: honestly i'm a sucker for fresh starts
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: paladin's still not found
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: paladin will never been found now
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: nobody's ever going north again after that.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if i kill party, yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: honestly they are non-plussed about the concept of "north" to say the least
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: can't imagine why...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: shit, now i'm entertaining the thought of rebooting the campaign
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: anyway I want that level 6
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still designing the details of what's going to happen, but there'll be a power spike
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't know about rebooting but Olin definitely doesn't want anything to do with that part of the world anymore
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: wanna go where it's warm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: where it's not 15°C indoors
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well it'd be a full blown "going back in time" kind of deal
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: errr, not going back in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it'd be like pushing "new game" on the main menu
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: sure, make me level 20 I'll goback in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't know about that, new game requires new characters
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: also low levels are boring
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: but flint had to take so many beatings and near deaths to get to 5
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: D:
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: i don't think he's making a second trip
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: honestly like low levels
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: later levels tend to be more annoying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: low levels would go past relatively fast i think, with a dedicated party of 5 or 6 i estimate 3-4 sessions per level
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: sure there's more options, but really this just means poeple take longer to do things because they have more options
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: including tons of roleplaying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: 3 to 4 session per level? that's still a lot
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum think positives: you coudl reroll stats
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: I mean in the end I don't really care DnD is DnD but I like options, you know.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay maybe less then; 2-3 encounters should level you, meaning they'd be a bit on the tough side, but worth your while
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i dunno how much time such a party would need for this many encounters
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: you can't really average the number of session per level, since higher level require so much more XP.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but that's all daydreaming, i have a party to TPK before this hhappens
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: I'm sure Olin can help with that :p
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: higher levels mean tougher enemies which means more XP; it somewhat works out
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: if he just so happens to be assigned to the area
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: giving xp for rping or just doing without xp altoghter are options to help leveling
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, i will go with a very solid maybe
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's a lot of variables i have in play
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: also I still don't know
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: like just give a level for hitting some critcal point or doing some massive undertaking
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one hypothetical outcome would be pvpenis
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, i agree very much, i need to get better with roleplaying XP
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: like, do you have a plan for the spells and gear?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Lazybum: strangely enough, i think flint would excel in a pvp situation
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause technically I don't have either.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, you'll have a better idea once i sort out the one inhibiting factor and give you a wall of text to slog through
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have a plan for the watcher training, but party can influence potentially critical events
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: who doesn't like a good wall of text
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i'm waiting until they can't anymore
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: neat
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, flint would excel in pvp because everyone ignores him while he just dishes out obscene damage steadily
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: now im lost, wonder how many sessions I missed
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: more like i can take several hits
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: I'm just wondering if I get to train into divination since I would assume it's what the watchers do
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: many hours, we went away from a fixed 4-hour session time to "go until someone falls over"
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: 1 hour sessions?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: dang that's short as hell
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: no, 9 hour
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: hours*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: I think we did like 9 8 8
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, there's a subset of watchers who focus heavily on divination spells, but the part of the brotherhood you seem itnerested in is more practically oriented; they get spells, strong ones too, and some divination as well, but they receive a surprising amount of combat training
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: 9 hours and no one gets knocked out? just how many healers does the party have now?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: so that's like 10 hours spent in jail
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well now they have a bard
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: and it didn't die first encounter?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: i dont beleive it
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but before that party was avoiding direct combat and played smart
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: good point D, just need them to get back on my feat and get OP.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i removed crossbows from the game
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: i also don't beelive that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: ???? but how?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay i removed crossbows from the party's immediate future
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: lol removed crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: omfg
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: replaced them with liches that showed restraint
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: never playing again
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: or well, i guess no one is using htem, but still
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: too many bad memories about crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: crossbow phobia
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: first lich played conservative and only got off one spell, second lich only casted a single ice storm and almost chunked the party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: yes Lazybum, NO ONE IS USING THEM!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: I agree!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: real power still not shown
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: why is no one using crossbows??!?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: WHY
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Lazybum: well the party at least, i didn't mean the hundreds of bandits
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: sorry, having flashbacks.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah, guards went to chase a vampire and left crossbows at home
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: context: lack of crossbow is the snowball that triggered an avalanche of beating to death.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so vampire escaped with like 20 hp, while in clear view of most guards
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: "oh no I can't get on the roof"...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: after they shot at us when we arrived, with crossbows.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it was a warning shot
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: a shot is a shot, from a crossbow!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: true that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said at some point after that debaacle, i forgot to give them crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: snowballs... snowballs... avalanche...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay enough daydreaming; to sum up, party needs to do a thing then olin gets to progress; things are messy for the main party and they will have some "fun"; considering "reverting" the campaign to around day 1 if main party wipes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plan for tomorrow: clean flat, buy movie, mapping stream so that people stop blaming xya
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we have bots to implement!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: buy movie? who buy movies? just download it.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: I still need to write a design guide for Commander Maps
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: except I don't know how to write and I don't know how to map.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: let me correct the statement
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: buy http://store.steampowered.com/app/584980/
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, dump shit into a chat with me or some google doc or something; just do a stream of consciousness and we can work out sense from it at a later date
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure that's still buying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah buying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I opened a google doc yesterday to do just that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: and then nothing
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: keep it open so that you can just alt tab to it at a moment's notice, something should come ^^
     
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