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    Apr 19, 2017 10:14 AM - Sgt.Security: iphone6+?
    Apr 19, 2017 10:20 AM - Sgt.Security: Are you guys done with events where people just assume they can have 1~2 nice rounds weekly so they just don't bother with the entire week of pub Empires? This goes to all of you.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:24 AM - Sgt.Security: I am not saying let's not host events for good, but come on, every, single, weekend? I'll just say, deja vu, remember our population when we had events weekly?
    Apr 19, 2017 10:25 AM - Sgt.Security: I am seeing that again, feel free to prove that I am wrong at the cost of our regular population.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:26 AM - Sgt.Security: Peace.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:57 AM - Spike: Well i wasn't going to do an event this weekend i was going to do one next weekend instead also i don't really see the issue with having a pug every Sunday i think its a good idea. The pugs on Sunday seem to be better games than the pub games.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:58 AM - Spike: The game isn't really that well populated on Sundays however the pugs seem to increase the amount of people playing which is a good thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 10:59 AM - Paradox: I agree witj security
    Apr 19, 2017 10:59 AM - Paradox: Having these fake ass pugs every week isnt helping anyone
    Apr 19, 2017 11:00 AM - Spike: I might do the vintage pugs every 2 weeks not every week
    Apr 19, 2017 11:02 AM - Spike: perhaps every week is abit much
    Apr 19, 2017 11:26 AM - Sgt.Security: Empires not populated on Sunday? What?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:27 AM - Sgt.Security: Well, even "well" populated, are you in a different timeline.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:32 AM - Sgt.Security: We don't need weekly PUGs, not even bi-weekly, don't even try to make up reasons, we just don't. If you make it once every 2 months I'll call you Jesus.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:39 AM - Sgt.Security: Sppon-feeding good games into people's mouth isn't gonna do us any good, you think people would stay and play regular pub games? No, they literally quit the game until next PUG because it happens every week anyway.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:47 AM - Spike: Bi weekly is fine i don't even recall you actually being at many pugs so why do you even care if there is a pug or not ?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Why do I care about the shit? I literally just said you are fucking killing our regular population.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Mr. I-have-created-4-PUGs-since-March-19th.
    Apr 19, 2017 11:54 AM - Sgt.Security: Keep thinking "all is well" with the PUGs, you don't see a problem because you see your server getting filled, you see people are having fun during PUGs. People also have fun while taking drugs, it must be good right?
    Apr 19, 2017 11:54 AM - Spike: Actually the population has been going down even since before i was creating pugs the population of empires has been going down for awhile now i highly doubt me putting up pugs will kill the population even more.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: Empires is an old game the population goes up and down people come back then leave again
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Sgt.Security: Has it occurred to you that I check our population on Steamchart every, goddamn, day? It says no, our current population is at a new low since Dec 2016. Keep in mind, this "new low" is with your PUGs there.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: empries population is about as unstable as the middle east
    Apr 19, 2017 12:00 PM - Spike: also alot of people only really show up to play pugs when they dont show up to play in regular pub games
    Apr 19, 2017 12:03 PM - McGyver: Get StarCraft for free: https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20674424
    Apr 19, 2017 12:05 PM - Spike: anyways im not going to bother sitting here arguing with someone who is so far up there own ass they cant see daylight i have better things to do than waste my time arguing with degenerates via shout box on the cesspool that is the empires forums.
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Lazybum: starcraft sucks, red alert is superior in every way
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Spike: never played starcraft
    Apr 19, 2017 12:06 PM - Lazybum: with age of empires being equal or better then red alert
    Apr 19, 2017 12:07 PM - Spike: only ever played red alert, command and conquer, age of empires and my favorite dawn of war
    Apr 19, 2017 12:07 PM - Lazybum: never played dawn of war
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - Spike: its great
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - Lazybum: kinda thought it was one of those total war games
    Apr 19, 2017 12:08 PM - vipervicki: hey I thought I killed empires, dont take my title away :P
    Apr 19, 2017 12:09 PM - Devourawr: looks awfully quiet in here
    Apr 19, 2017 12:09 PM - Spike: i dont the death of empires is really down to one person its just been a collective of things time being one of them empires is a decade old by now
    Apr 19, 2017 12:10 PM - vipervicki: i was joking imo I kept it alive for years..but some still say I kille dit,, it was ajoke
    Apr 19, 2017 12:11 PM - Spike: :3
    Apr 19, 2017 12:12 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Apr 19, 2017 12:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: vicki i also hold that title by 2nd place mean while my server adds new features boomheadshot :P
    Apr 19, 2017 12:37 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thank to the help of neoony, thexa, megamlg, polopl334, for you help :}
    Apr 19, 2017 12:40 PM - vipervicki: lol lizzy
    Apr 19, 2017 12:42 PM - vipervicki: your server does well every morning esb has poeple playing in the evening and during the day when we pay attention to the server. been too busy lately to bother with it though
    Apr 19, 2017 12:43 PM - vipervicki: your server is friendly I like that
    Apr 19, 2017 12:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: same here i have also give my admins more POWER so you guys can manage it better .... but most of it is now automated its all about the littile details
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: well all these ideas were the ideas i had with i was like 16 playing the game just started to impement them
    Apr 19, 2017 12:44 PM - vipervicki: ill show you one of the thigns Ive been so busy with..among others
    Apr 19, 2017 12:46 PM - vipervicki: hmm might have to uplaod it first
    Apr 19, 2017 12:49 PM - vipervicki: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 12:49 PM - vipervicki: my new puppy
    Apr 19, 2017 12:58 PM - Xyaminou: PUG Paranoia, didn't think that was a thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pugs are legit bad for the population, we've been through this once already
    Apr 19, 2017 1:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just look at steamcharts from the past 2 weeks http://steamcharts.com/app/17740#1m
    Apr 19, 2017 1:10 PM - Xyaminou: sure let's find correlation where there isn't any.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: george santayana is turning in his grave
    Apr 19, 2017 1:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 'sides, i think you're confusing correlation with causation
    Apr 19, 2017 1:11 PM - Xyaminou: is he undead? does he need to be killed? am I supposed to know who the fuck that is?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - Xyaminou: a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - Xyaminou: I am not
    Apr 19, 2017 1:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if we're going into semantics, then the connection is clear as day - frequent pugs and a decrease in average playercounts are connected by time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - Xyaminou: no, they're not.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: He is so cute
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: is that a begal?>
    Apr 19, 2017 1:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as per security's post in spike's pug thread: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rxg999ukttwinq/未命名5.png?dl=0
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - Xyaminou: lol that shows absolutely nothing
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: actually here's the post
    Apr 19, 2017 1:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index...30-gmt-13-30-pst-16-30-est.20935/#post-543401
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this "nothing" is a drop in average population to nearly empty levels during the time of the summer league
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - Xyaminou: Empires is dead during summer, who would have guessed?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - Xyaminou: BECAUSE IT'S SUMMER
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: last summer, in july, we had 23.9 average players
    Apr 19, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's four times more than in 2015.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:16 PM - Xyaminou: after the game was just revived...
    Apr 19, 2017 1:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: revived by what?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:17 PM - Xyaminou: really?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:18 PM - Xyaminou: by developpers, by if I remember it correctly them putting the game into free to play or something something
    Apr 19, 2017 1:23 PM - Xyaminou: have people really forgotten that the only reason we have players right now is because they revived the game?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:25 PM - Xyaminou: there's been a summer league EVERY YEAR and if you look at the other years, OH LOOK, no big difference like your one example to fit your dream.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: so please, learn statistics, learn analytics before you try to find connections that do not exist.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - Misfire: Yes a small revived by a number of things all around the same time. devs, people extra posting, friend's list invite pugs, seeding, youtubes and my bot "waiting room".
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - vipervicki: thx lizzy ypu a beagle
    Apr 19, 2017 1:26 PM - vipervicki: yup*
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: hey misfire
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - Misfire: Before these things player count was zero for weeks at a time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - Misfire: Hey Vicki!, nice picture.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: i agree with secuirty tho last time we had weekly pugs people lost interst
    Apr 19, 2017 1:27 PM - vipervicki: ty :)
    Apr 19, 2017 1:28 PM - vipervicki: it become mundane instead of something special
    Apr 19, 2017 1:28 PM - Misfire: All that said, I've not been a big fan of the special matches either.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - Xyaminou: because it is something "mundane"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: yeah once a month is good
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - Xyaminou: PUGs are just a more organized Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: you'll see if it continues so frequently
    Apr 19, 2017 1:29 PM - vipervicki: and if we are wrong then thats good too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Sgt.Security: Wait, can you find me the record of Summer League 2014 and 2013? I must've gotten so busy that I missed all the fun.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: When I requested the PUG plugin to scardybob the idea was to improve the organization in Empires games to be used every week-end
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - vipervicki: im jsut going by how it turne dout last time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: what record just look at steamcharts
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Xyaminou: last time it was on NUBS
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Misfire: SDK2013 came out, broke most MODS including Empires where players couldn't join without special command line options.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - vipervicki: someone said its been decreasing I dont bother with it since it doesnt count active players only
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Xyaminou: no need to look for any other 'cause why people don't want to play regular games on NUBS
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - vipervicki: yeah we lsot many during that time misfire
    Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM - Sgt.Security: You said that we've had summer league every year, but I don't recall a summer league in 2014&2013, I am not saying my memory is perfect but I just don't recall, so if you have a screenshot or video, I'll buy it, 100%.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Misfire: We still haven't recovered from that. I'm not disagreeing, but if were going to argue with facts and stats, let's include them all, not just the ones you like
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Sgt.Security: With that being said, no there's no related screenshot in my folder.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - Xyaminou: trickster has been doing it every year for a few years
    Apr 19, 2017 1:32 PM - vipervicki: isnt my puppy adorable? he so funny too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:33 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not gonna search for it because this forum's search is absolutely awful
    Apr 19, 2017 1:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i went and looked around, the league of 2016 took four weeks week after week and was preceded by a pug, that's it
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: Yeah Vicki, I have to give Candles and other credit for getting Empires back up after SDk2013. Without that effort we probably wouldn't be here today
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: There are lots of mods that didn't survive
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: short bouts of activity are definitely beneficial, but having them that often eventually leads to a burning out that causes weekday games to crash and burn
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - Misfire: Gotta run, have fun gang!
    Apr 19, 2017 1:34 PM - vipervicki: true Candles was a good dev
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: nice guy too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: k have a god one
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - Xyaminou: to look aronud where? on the event forums? you do realise Empires didn't start in 2015 right?
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and it's better to have consistent average games than occasional great ones and a draught for the majority of time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - vipervicki: I agree Destroyer
    Apr 19, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: empires didn't start in 2015, there was one "league" before that in the form of ESL, that took 4 games to resolve too
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: no it's not better to have disorganized shit instead of having a plugin or in the lack of it, a player, that organizes it
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why the fuck we're talking about this, this is already what I do EVERY DAY on my server.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: please argue our point instead of jumping to another
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: advertising it doesn't change a thing.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - Xyaminou: you don't have a point, thereore there is nothing to argue
    Apr 19, 2017 1:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's objectively better to have means of organising things than not having them
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's also healthier for the game to have consistent games than a sinal graph of "good game" and "nothing"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - Xyaminou: My thread says: "I will be administrating on my server this sunday"
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is my point
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - Xyaminou: if it's a crime to say that you and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves
    Apr 19, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can ignore it if you so desire, but it's right here
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: There are consistant games why do you think I put it on sunday instead of saturday, jesus.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not a crime to administrate, it's not a crime to organise pugs
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: my god you people are thick.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's bad for the game to have "pugs" every weekend.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: IT... IS... NOT
    Apr 19, 2017 1:38 PM - Xyaminou: you have absolutely no proof whatsoever to support your insane theory.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if all you're going to do is take extra care about the quality of games, then forgo the "pug" name and just do your adminning
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - vipervicki: yup he will find that out no need to try and convince someone who thinks he knows it all
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - Xyaminou: I am not going to start a new naming standard just because of a few paranoid people
    Apr 19, 2017 1:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: don't start one, just don't call it anything special
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: you only ned to ot Mr X in fornt of the pug :P
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - vipervicki: let him do what he wants and see the outcome
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: okay sorry I guess that wasn't clear enough, NO!
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: there
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: can't be any clearer.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: jk i am not mean lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - vipervicki: then we can say Mr X killed empires
    Apr 19, 2017 1:40 PM - Xyaminou: you're not happy with it well too fucking bad.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: not i want to keep my 2nd spot if we do that you will talke 2 nd .
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and i get 3rd i like my silver :D
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - vipervicki: lol lizzy
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - Xyaminou: Why do I bother going on the forums full of piece of shit is really unknown.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:41 PM - vipervicki: we gotta find mr x a 12 step empires therapy group for sure
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: george santayana said everything that needed to be said decades ago already
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - Xyaminou: oh please, if you don't know what to say then don't say anything don't go quoting unrelated phrases.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - Sgt.Security: Do you really think I would be up against one of few occasions where I get to stomp vets instead of newbs with 300 ping at 4AM, without reasons? Anyway, like I said, just keep spoon-feeding good games into people's mouth, weekly, in the end they will try to make normal pub games equally good because they enjoy, they will not just wait for the games to be served.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: prove me wrong, i'll be glad to be wrong
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - vipervicki: glad im not such an angry perosn gotta be bad for ones health
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - Sgt.Security: I would like to be proved wrong though.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:43 PM - Xyaminou: "without reason", just because you think there is a reason doesn't make it so.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: to be honest i would not mind doing pug but they nver are really pugs i have not seen a captain chooes a team yet from spec
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Sgt.Security: Well, history's right there, you can always say there's no correlation, but still, you can take this as a friendly reminder. With that being said, go right ahead.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Xyaminou: they already knew the could rely on joining my server for the week-end to get a good game, nothing has changed, people still play on saturday because they can't play on sunday
    Apr 19, 2017 1:44 PM - Xyaminou: NOTHING HAS CHANGED
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - Xyaminou: HISTORY is open to interpretation if you can't fucking understand that you really should go back to school
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and the same map as to be swithcd in side and limited time not 10000 hrs just like 30 mins or sormthing with
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - Sgt.Security: Like I said you can always say there's no correlation, there's none stopping you from doing so.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hypocritical to the max right there
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - vipervicki: people join your server because over the weekends others have been too busy t put time into another server. but glad your there to host games.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - Sgt.Security: I am just putting a sign here, I can't physically block you from doing things you want.
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - Xyaminou: yes hypocritical because I don't agree with you, here we go;
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok guy ia m off ot watching porn ....
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - vipervicki: security havetn you learned yet if you disagree with mr x you are wrong lol
    Apr 19, 2017 1:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hypocritical because you refuse to acknowledge our interpretation and instead consider it false from the get-go
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah lizzy i'm off to read last month's newspapers, those are a better use of time
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: only because it is
    Apr 19, 2017 1:47 PM - vipervicki: must be an incredible burden always be right
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - Xyaminou: it is, you have no idea
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - vipervicki: im off to people to see places to go
    Apr 19, 2017 1:48 PM - vipervicki: lol x
    Apr 19, 2017 2:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is it still alright to call the UK, Great Britain?
    Apr 19, 2017 3:10 PM - flasche: its not the same
    Apr 19, 2017 3:11 PM - flasche: uk includes northern ireland
    Apr 19, 2017 3:11 PM - Thexa4: In case you want to know more about problems with handling dates: http://infiniteundo.com/post/25509354022/more-falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time
    Apr 19, 2017 3:15 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: "34. GMT and UTC are the same timezone." This is a false statement according to this post. take that bluesky
    Apr 19, 2017 3:18 PM - flasche: its wrong
    Apr 19, 2017 3:18 PM - flasche: GMT is the winter time in the timezone the uk is in. UTC is global
    Apr 19, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: TL;DR
    Apr 19, 2017 3:21 PM - Thexa4: UTC also doesn't stand for anything. The french wanted TUC, americans wanted UCT so they compromised :)
    Apr 19, 2017 3:21 PM - flasche: wiki says CUT
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: coordinated universal time
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - Thexa4: ah, yes, that's probably right
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: i bet if itd be CUT people would rather adapt to it
    Apr 19, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 3:24 PM - flasche: also that list is hilarious "36. Time always goes forwards."
    Apr 19, 2017 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: the french are always right, you should know this by now
    Apr 19, 2017 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: wages
    Apr 19, 2017 3:28 PM - flasche: oh 200 at rank increase is interesting
    Apr 19, 2017 3:28 PM - flasche: why dont you get some for capping a flag?
    Apr 19, 2017 3:29 PM - flasche: but in general the list looks decent
    Apr 19, 2017 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: the 200 for emp_rank_increase is the cheat command
    Apr 19, 2017 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't actually give you 200 wages and 10 points for getting a new rank
    Apr 19, 2017 3:52 PM - flasche: aww
    Apr 19, 2017 3:52 PM - flasche: but i want mah 200 res
    Apr 19, 2017 3:55 PM - flasche: so in the long run you may be able to afford one med solely on wages in the endgame
    Apr 19, 2017 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: you shouldn't be able to afford anything on wages, but people want their treat.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: Behaving like dogs...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:05 PM - flasche: well i disagree
    Apr 19, 2017 4:06 PM - flasche: i dont think wages were the issue, i think that both resources were set too high and the removal of research costs also attributed to the flood of res we had to deal with in the recent years
    Apr 19, 2017 4:07 PM - flasche: ofc wages also added to it, but that doesnt mean they are bad. it only means resources never adapted.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: resources over which commander has no control = bad
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - flasche: because?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: because commander supremacy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:09 PM - flasche: but what does it matter to you when someone builds a jeep with their resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: or an apc
    Apr 19, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: especially since the team funds didnt get changed anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: unused resources are bad resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: not necessarily
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: only when you say "ok everyone get heavies and push"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: but before that you need to accumulate enough to have a decent heavy rush
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - flasche: i mean that wasnt a problem for years now as you often ended up with well over 10k res anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - flasche: even though people built tanks
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: try holding the map without spending resources on open maps
    Apr 19, 2017 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: if it's balanced you can't
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: we were thinking a different scenario then
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: it's a RTS dude
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: its not
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: in RTS you build units constantly to keep map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: if you don't you lose map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: its a fps with some rts elements
    Apr 19, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: engis can kill rifles
    Apr 19, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: in no rts this would be possible
    Apr 19, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: i mean in a 1 on 1 engi vs rifle
    Apr 19, 2017 4:15 PM - flasche: you can lose map control even if you pump out heavies like thered be no tomorrow
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: also in rts you can usually decide, a bunch of strong units or masses of weak units
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: also no option in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: as far as resource spending goes it behaves the same as an RTS.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: spend resources or lose map control
    Apr 19, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: yes sure you need to spend res, but that doesnt mean saving for later is an invalid strategy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: and sure, its map dependent
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: it's not a bad idea, it's just an impractical one
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: also in rts you usually cant just buy 10 heavy units
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: in empires you can
    Apr 19, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: in theory it's good, but in practice? no, build forces by keeping them grouped up and alive, don't hold resources.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: what about mass meds?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: dont spend much early on
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: build 10 meds in one go and push
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: ofc spending nothing wont work
    Apr 19, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: but saving is valid
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: wages wont effect the saving, but it allows players to build one jeep or maybe one apc
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: That is the different between Empires and other RTS
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: sure on duststorm you better dont go down this road
    Apr 19, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: there is no economy side
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so your income stays (assuming map control doesn't change) the same
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so early game you'll end up with extra resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: so yes early game you can do big rush of AFVs and LTs
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: maybe even meds if you have absorbant and you're fast enough
    Apr 19, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: or just build bases everywhere
    Apr 19, 2017 4:22 PM - flasche: i wouldnt say economy is non existent. it works differently. in the end empires is no true RTS.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: a mamoth tank is a mamoth tank. a heavy with a shit driver can be taken out by a light.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - Xyaminou: it is very close to non-existent, you can't spend money to increase your income, not just straight up.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: or a gren
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: or it takes out itself that can happen too
    Apr 19, 2017 4:23 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: yeah well thats because in empires research revolves around tanks and tanks alone
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: at least originally
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: it got a bit weakened by enh. and upg. gren
    Apr 19, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: but in general its still true with the exception of turret upgrades
    Apr 19, 2017 4:26 PM - flasche: but unless its a really small game turrets are a way to give the enemy points.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:27 PM - flasche: hell the whole of empires revolves around tanks. its tank here tank there and anyone dare making tanks not superimbadestroyeverything better wears a flameproof coat
    Apr 19, 2017 4:30 PM - flasche: but what you want? upkeep for tanks? thats not working out, you cant have either masses of weak or a few heavy hitting units.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:32 PM - flasche: youll always have about the same amount of players on each side
    Apr 19, 2017 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: economy based resource spending would be a goodstart
    Apr 19, 2017 4:34 PM - flasche: what you mean with that?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: I mean spend resources to have more income
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: upgrading refs fe?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: or global research that increases income?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:35 PM - flasche: tho research doesnt cost anything anymore
    Apr 19, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't have to be global, doesn't have to be research.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: upgrading refs could be one thing
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: ideally it'd be a totally different building and technologies
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: but everything has to cost resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: everything
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: yes i agree there could be a lot done on this end
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: or there is no balance
    Apr 19, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: i also never was the biggest fan of removing research costs
    Apr 19, 2017 4:38 PM - flasche: like when it was made official i said "i dont think its a good idea to remove one balancing factor"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:38 PM - flasche: i mean heavies did cost what 1200 res just for the research?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - flasche: thats something and it was a decision you had to make
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Apr 19, 2017 4:39 PM - Thexa4: if you want to have more economy things you'd have to find a way to reduce the problem of players and commanders having separate intrests but spending from the same pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: you mean ban people that don't act in the interest of the team? that's already what I do.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - flasche: well i see what thexa means
    Apr 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Thexa4: no, I mean either aligning the intrests or giving them a separate pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: the design of the game is such that players want to spend everything as quickly as possible and the commander wants to save
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: but i think even though its abstract such research or upgrades would be in the interest of people
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: which results in friction
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: its like placing rax
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: sure, but I'd rather have a tank now, more fun :)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: like i said, i dont think the big picture is completely out of peoples mind
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Thexa4: it's too abstract while you're trying to shoot the guy that just killed you
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: s
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: actually you're wrong Thexa
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: As a commander I want players to spend resources as soon as possible
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: but thats empries thexa - a lot of things are abstract in the way that it doesnt immediatly promote a player
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: but in the long run its what decides the game
    Apr 19, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: and players are usually too busy and tunnel visioned to come back to a VF and do it.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: especially buildings fall into that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: Empires n°1 is tunnel vision
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: n°1 problem*
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: what does it concern the 2/3rds of players not in tanks that you build a reppad
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: @X, I think we're talking about the same problem
    Apr 19, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: like what I said yesterday
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: ive not heared a single complaint about it yet though
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: are we? 'cause you said "players want to spend asap, commanders don't"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: and its about the cost of 1 med
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: which is wrong.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:44 PM - Thexa4: yes, it's not the root problem, you're right about that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Thexa4: the underlying issue is that they have differing priorities
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: the root problem is Empires is, believe it or not, Empires is a roleplay game
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Thexa4: and spend from the same pool
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: in Empires you assume a role and you act according to that role
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: be it as a commander, a squad leader or an infantry
    Apr 19, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: i like to think the playerbase commits to that when they play empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: you should act accordingly
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: the problem being that some players don't understand that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: and therefore they don't act accordingly
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Thexa4: ideally the game does that for you by providing you tools to act in certain ways
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: If you're in a team in Empires you should act in the interest of the team, not yours.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:46 PM - Thexa4: therefore making it more work to not play the role
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: the game design should make your intrest the same / part of making the team win
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: and some people still don't understand that.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: make people do the right thing through design instead of by force
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: it already does...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: design is force
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - flasche: well by design basically is by force :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Thexa4: the fact that new players start the game by entering the CV is an indication that the design is wrong there
    Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: what flasche said
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: (for example)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: They came to play with tanks, we show them a tank, therefore they want to drive it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: how so?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: it's more of an example of the unwillingness to learn and stupidity of today's players.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: how doyou know they came to play with tanks?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: I came to teamplay
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: and what you gonna do about it?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: I came for combined arms
    Apr 19, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: If you would make it less tank-like / look very fragile they wouldn't drive to the enemy base with it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: the only solution would be to get rid of comm
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't include tanks but it's not the only aspect of it.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Thexa4: no
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: and thats a crucial part of empries
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: but then it's not a tank
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Thexa4: if it was shaped like a toy car noobs wouldn't drive around with it :)
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: and I mean shit how is driving anything into the enemy territory a good idea
    Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: but it would look incredibly stupid
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: yeah the fucking would
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: also the cv is anything but not weak at all
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Thexa4: sure
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't matter what you make it look like
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: but not getting into the cv really isnt the biggest issue empires has. that usually gets sorted out pretty fast by them getting either fsspaced or kicked of the server right away
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: if people don't understand it's not a good idea to drive into enemy force without second thought nothing you do will help
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why you assume everyone is capable of reasoning
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - MartinPL: When i see discussion about game itself and its problems i want to join but propably i gonna say something stupid and everyone gonna throw meat at me... well...
    Apr 19, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: some people are just brain damaged. that's just how it is.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: say something stupid martin
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: only xya will throw shit at you :P
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: martin considering the amount of stupidity that goes through forums no one would even notice
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Thexa4: in any case, if you're interested in the theory behind what I'm saying you can look at UX design
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Thexa4: Something like this: https://radishlab.com/2016/10/guiding-behavior-ux-design/
    Apr 19, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: live and forget
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - MartinPL: oke... soooo... when we gonna get rid of Tanks spam? maybe invent somekind of AT vehicle? or when we gonna get return of artilery tank to game? it cost too much and does worse job than grenades throwen by engy
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: oh I know theories I don't need to read a 100 pages to understand it
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't change the fact that if you deal with retards it won't help.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - flasche: you will see less tankspam on servers with less resources
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: uh... Martin... have you not played on my server?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:52 PM - flasche: tanks are anti tank vehicles
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: I got rid of tank spam.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: and if you think what you just said is stupid well think again
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: the issue with arty isnt only its cost, its also that too many drive arty
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: and no, they dont do a worse job than engi nades
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: so, when meds and heavies aren;t tanks? :D
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: Tanks are different with other apporaches
    Apr 19, 2017 4:53 PM - MartinPL: MBT are, yes, AT
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: in general tanks are anti tanks in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - MartinPL: But when you look about paper, scissors, rock mechanic, they aren;t for that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: except for HE and nukes their weaponry is AT
    Apr 19, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: but you cannot research rockpaperscissor, thats not how the research system works in empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: and you also lack the information to do that
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: If you're talking about counters I'll just repeat what I always said: no counters without spying/scouting mechanics.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: you want to add counters? first add scouting/spying
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: add intelligence war.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: and even then counters wont work out
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: then you can consider adding counters
    Apr 19, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: in most cases youll end up with one side having the counter to the other side and its GG
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - MartinPL: Scouting and spying.... scout is what for?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: but there's already grenadiers countering NF heavy tanks in Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: noone knows martin :P
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: not scouting
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: Scouting: finding out what your enemy is up to, to gather intelligence.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: in terms of getting info about the enemy research at least
    Apr 19, 2017 4:56 PM - MartinPL: well... i just stuck at WW2 games and approach of typical rock, paper, scissors tactics
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: In Empires it would mean finding what your enemy is researching.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: well first off Empires is not WW2, it's futuristic.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: but in these games you either can either always build rock paper an scissor at the same time
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: or nothing
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: scrap that either
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: secondly I don't see how there can be RPC in WW2 FPS. must have been terrible games.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:57 PM - MartinPL: What about Drones or hacking attacks? why we can;t invent something that does automatically with long cooldown?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: who says we can't?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Spike: how to win in empries 2017 - Get advanced gren upgrade and BIO mg
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: it just hasn't been done.
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: RPC?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: remote procedure call?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: Rock Paper oh shit it's S
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Spike: guided and extended range cannon
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: RPS* Rock Paper Scissors
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: oh lol
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - MartinPL: well... games dont end on FPS
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - MartinPL: and Empires isn't 100% fps
    Apr 19, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: RTS work completely different from empires anyway
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: There is still a commander
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: its not even close to be 50% RTS either
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: it is frankenstein
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - MartinPL: bit of this, bit of that and just mess when everyone does anything
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: again. in empires you cannot decide "spam a lot of weak units" or "build a few tough ones"
    Apr 19, 2017 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: I explained how to implement counters, don't know how else I can say it.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - MartinPL: thats why i ask about something automated
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - flasche: in empires a engineer can kill a rifleman in 1on1 - not possible in ANY rts
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: what do you mean automated?
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:00 PM - MartinPL: enginer can kill rifleman... that reminds me something? aaa yes, good old quote from CoH2... "We prefer fighting the westernals, they always complaing about pioneer spam"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: the developers still have to CODE IT into the game, doesn't matter what kind of mechanic it is.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: ?????
    Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're talking about
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - MartinPL: you can't just put Ai bots into game because of known reasons
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - flasche: yeah because AI sucks
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - flasche: in fps more than in other games
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - MartinPL: and can't rely on scouts doing something else than being annoying with cloak or rifle...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: ???
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - MartinPL: soooo i see only a something working like shiny button that does what is needed for espionage to gather enemy intel
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're trying to communicate you're jumping from one subject to another completely inconsistently.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - MartinPL: enemy research, resources or something additional to that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: ???
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - flasche: i think he means espionage needs to be a button because you cant rely on the meta required if it would be players
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: I give up
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: OH
    Apr 19, 2017 5:04 PM - MartinPL: yeah, language barrier in nutshell
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: i got you covered
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - MartinPL: and quick chat isn't helping
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: I mean if you can't rely on players you shouldn't play Empires at all.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't matter what you do
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: but you cannot rely on players. thats the whole engi can kill rifle thing
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: If you can't rely on players to assume their roles then there is no Empires.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: what distinquishes empires from RTS
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - flasche: not because they dont want to fulfil a role, but because its unpredictable
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - MartinPL: So when we gonna pack our bags and leave? there is enough screams at people for not obeying orders AND if new people will come, they will give zero f's about someone screaming killspawn
    Apr 19, 2017 5:06 PM - flasche: in most RTS you can say x units of that will kill y units of that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Thexa4: you also have some rtsses with probablistic models
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - MartinPL: Worst case scenario leaves new people with only CS:GO knowledge to just shoot things and teabag a person
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: well technically flasche you have to micro your unit better than the other guy
    Apr 19, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: you can't just rely on "go kill"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: Empires isn't that different in that aspect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: the more micro you provide to your guys the better they'll do
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: effectively diminishing the unreliable part
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - flasche: assuming the same level of micro its still like that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: assuming the guys aren't braindead
    Apr 19, 2017 5:09 PM - flasche: a unit hits x times each second. deals y damage and applies z effect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:09 PM - flasche: RTS is a whole lot more predictable in that respect
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: you know exactly the hit animation takes .2 seconds
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - MartinPL: What i feel now is like completly miss the memo and come to the end of the party, like Empires, if not gonna get more and more people interested in its way, then what procedure we should do to not just make a grave for Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - Xyaminou: We should listen to Mr. X. he knows.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 19, 2017 5:10 PM - MartinPL: How we can do something with the game to make new comers stay and have fun and not being screamed by veteran with XXX hours, not obeying his command
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: empires is in limbo for years now. but you have to consider the game is over 10 years old now
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: and a mod that is played regularily for 10 years, hey thats something to be proud of
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - MartinPL: Well, for me old games are waaaay better than today AAA titles
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: them staying has less to do with the game than it has to do with the players
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: so stop trying to accomodate
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: no the point martin
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: not*
    Apr 19, 2017 5:11 PM - MartinPL: *looking angry at ME:A quality"
    Apr 19, 2017 5:12 PM - Xyaminou: the sooner the devs accept they can't accomodate the game to everyone's liking they sooner we'll move forward
    Apr 19, 2017 5:12 PM - Xyaminou: and do more useful stuff
    Apr 19, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: probably would have kept more players if we acted in the interest of those who like the game instead of trying to make idiots like it.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - MartinPL: I have just that weird feeling when something is near end, i don;t want it to end... i know this is weird especially i joined ultra-super-late but still...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: i doubt that
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: and even those who left with the reason "everything is shitty now" dont share a common picture
    Apr 19, 2017 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: lol Empires isn't near the end, not even close.
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - MartinPL: i still have good memories of when Empires was sourcemod and when i tried get back to it when There was Viper eu server...
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - flasche: thats long after its prime already
    Apr 19, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: well then I'll just go back to listen to me because I know better
     
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    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: don't know what else you want me to say
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - flasche: say flasche is the best
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - MartinPL: So i gonna crawl under catwalk you showed me sometime on atomic (it was atomic?)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: yeah no Viper is late Empires
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: yes it was atomic
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: real Empires was on napalm's server and even before
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:18 PM - MartinPL: So for now we can call that Empires isn't dying but still need more people. What gonna change in game/server Mr. X? more fancy hangout places like on atomic? :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - A-z-K: Port to StarEngine!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: there's plenty changing on my server
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: I already revived Empires as much as I could
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: unless you listen to the usual naysayers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: MrX, you are one of the biggest people saying let this game die
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - MartinPL: For me only things that kills me inside in Empires is Nother Faction new jeep... i want the old one. D:
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: said by the King of the naysayers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: and yet I have a server on which I revived the game to it's true self
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: its*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: yes the new jeep is shit
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: lol try doing that for over 5 years then talk to me
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: dt
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: did u see my post about emp_landing?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: oh fuck off Vicki if you didn't like hosting a server you shouldn't have instead of constantly fucking crying about it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: looks good but i got 1 texture missing
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: and trump, where's the download for your maps?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: lol wasnt crying showing u u didnt accomplish much as u think u have
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - MartinPL: I would love to learn 3D modeling but porting it to source is so bad that i would prefer to learn making games in Unity than trying again port something to this grandpa
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: learn to read asswipe
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: sure I'll take the word of a retard for it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah martin don't waste your time learning source, it's old, it's dead, no point.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - vipervicki: do you know why that texture is missing?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: Empires isn't worth it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Thexa4: We have tooling available to convert stuff from blender to ingame, if there's something you have trouble with, let us know, we can add more tooling to make it easier
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM - MartinPL: Source gonna be infinite thanks to huge space of ragdolls and fancy models used in gmod and SFM but yeah, source is a wreck
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM - MartinPL: THERE IS?!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - A-z-K: where to send flowers?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - vipervicki: guess he doesnt know :(
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - A-z-K: family flowers only?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Thexa4: https://wiki.empiresmod.com/Modeling
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - MartinPL: Holy damn, if there is ultra simple way to not play a RNG game with all porting scripting and fixing 99 problems with those i would love to get back into it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Thexa4: and https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: martin
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: if you need help with blender to source
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: ask
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - MartinPL: Maybe i just too much exploded but still i gonna need to learn 3D modeling anyway to fullfill my modding "job" in other game so i can catch this thing too
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: unless its with animating and rigging im in the process of understanding why the fuck i that fucking shit doesnt work like thexa wants it to
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:28 PM - MartinPL: animating. You can just call it black magic
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Spyer: Best shoutout box
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - MartinPL: In simple naming, i would just simply throw tanks at blender and get back something that works in source... if this is possible i gonna probably fulfill my hard drive with 1946 Reich tank industry in no time
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Spyer: 10/10
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Xyaminou: Best forums ever!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - MartinPL: "Nother faction hired misterious man and ended with E-tank program"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: best search function ever.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: or how to not find anything.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: Northern*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:31 PM - MartinPL: Thanks, Mr. X
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:33 PM - MartinPL: Anyway... trivia question. Why Northern Faction have light tank so low, but later have everything huge as possible?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Xyaminou: you'd have to ask Don Megel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: when ever i keep seeing a NF med tank, i keep thinking that it's a British Mark V with a cannon on the top of it with missile launchers
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: and can move fast as hell
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:35 PM - MartinPL: Med is ultra weird
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:36 PM - MartinPL: Because if model isn't a big joke then its tracks are acceleraded by 1 big wheel in middle of body... Where it would fit Engine, drive and Combat space for turret loader?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - MartinPL: remember kids, don't write too fast... everything is lost
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: the LT looks like someone took six big water floats, strapped to a truck, and said, "Eh, good enough."
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM - MartinPL: i try again
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:38 PM - MartinPL: NF Med have on its sides Big wheel to accelerate tank tracks, but how it can contain in its hull, engine, drive for those big wheels and combat space to have gun loader?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:38 PM - MartinPL: Technically everything should be in middle of its hull
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:39 PM - MartinPL: "It is big and fancy and have no sense, PERFECT!"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: are you thinking of the heavy tanks?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - MartinPL: If i had live chance i would prefer to make new Med for NF that is less junky and more proper designed. Have some space for its proper parts and stuff. Of course whole body track system isn't blocked. French WW2 tanks had those and worked so, there we can take some inspiration
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i don't see a big wheel of the med
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:41 PM - MartinPL: Look inside the model of Medium tank. It have weird Big wheels on its sides, giving weird feel that those are propelling it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:41 PM - MartinPL: i could just launch Gmod, wait 30 minutes to load (shit ton GB of random useless WW2 stuff) and make some shoots of it from inside
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:42 PM - MartinPL: And for light tank
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:42 PM - flasche: did you make any of those models?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - MartinPL: It have a sense, look at french panhard EBR
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: also you mean the NF heavy
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: the med doesnt have this big wheel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: if its a wheel at all - who knows
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: and thats the medium
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:46 PM - MartinPL: I remember correctly than both or just med have BEHIND the mesh a big wheel on sides that propels the tank treads
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: whatever propells the tanks is not visible in engine
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: the actualy wheels it rests on
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is there any way to view the wheel from within the tank?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - MartinPL: Still some stuff from NF is triggering me more and more i look at it.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: there is no modeled wheel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:48 PM - MartinPL: Aaaand somehow it gives easier job to Berondi empire, it isn;t that hard to hit NF later tanks :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:50 PM - MartinPL: Mr. X said that Empires is focused on Futuristic approach, so MBTs and no AT tanks, i can dig it but still it is... weird that NF later goes into big tanks and ignores the nice size of light tank
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: empires is not futuristic, its on a whole different planet with a whole different everything
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: for all we know it could be in the past aswell, it has nothing to do with reality (story wise, yet the nf med clearly is a leopard)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: i mean be med sry
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: also please throw "its not realistic" out of your mind when it comes to games
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: realistic games would be boring as fuck
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: oh what i cannot carry shitloads of rockets mortar shells and mines as grenadier?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: like seriously that breaks my immersion
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - MartinPL: Why not make better launcher that can use both type of rounds?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Thexa4: things should still look like they are designed for the job they perform
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: it is the same model in case you have not noticed
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I guess calling it futuristic was a bit of a misnomer
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Xyaminou: parallele universe
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: they look like tanks thexa
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: i mean theyre not ideal from a gameplay perspective, the huge difference in silhouettes is shitty, but the general design says "mean tank"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Thexa4: sure, but the shape they have makes them really unsuitable to drive IRL, and we feel that in the vehicle handling for example
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM - MartinPL: Empires is only place that could be like experimental side to test on side, the visual approach of it. People who knows Empires still gonna play anyway until main mechanics would be tampered
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - MartinPL: What i mean, Empires still can be live or dead and visual changing isn't clearly set as "100% do not try change anything", because of new berondi radar/camera and ulgy nf jeep
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - A-z-K: Change anything in empires and people will come round your house and set fire to your lawn, even if it is great
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: nf med and heavy are designed after the leman russ from warhammer40k which are designed after british ww1 tanks (mark iv or v or smthg)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: ^
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: tho im not so sure whether a lower profile nf heavy wouldnt be welcomed
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - MartinPL: well Azk, i would love it to see :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - flasche: the nf jeep isnt ugly what are you on?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM - A-z-K: The new NF jeep is about a million times better than the old one
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - A-z-K: The LT is ok, everything else is trash.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - MartinPL: For me new NF jeep is ugly because jeep shouldn;t be lower than lowrider... it looks weird for me
    Apr 19, 2017 at 5:59 PM - A-z-K: Looks like a dune buggy
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - A-z-K: BE jeep is low too
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: first of all it shouldnt be called jeep if we are going to be precise
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - A-z-K: I imagine making them ride any higher would make them handle like jelly
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: jeep is a brand
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: and the old model was low aswell and you said it was better
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - MartinPL: oke, Military utility vehicle
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: you make up agruments
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - MartinPL: but had smaller wheels
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: which is totally sane to do?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - MartinPL: so it look kinda better for me, still everything would need some refreshment
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: because its not for offroad purpose
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:02 PM - MartinPL: some maps are very bumpy, yet we have vehicles not intended for it... then... what
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - A-z-K: BE needs a nice 5 door Sports Utility Vehicle to meet the needs of the Empire's modern mother on the go.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Thexa4: It's called an APC :)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM - MartinPL: Good, we can bring whole family to emp_forest!
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - A-z-K: Need to get 3 kids & the dog from C5 hill to A2? BE SUV is the answer. And low, low maintenance costs
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - MartinPL: Just we need more love for bio diesel
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM - A-z-K: I highly suggest getting the undercoat - good for 50'000 miles & full 3 year warranty
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM - Thexa4: Sustainable empires
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:06 PM - MartinPL: Dear diary, i had fun talking about poking a stick at how Empires NF vehicles have no sense for me. Now... preparing 5 year plan at the Gulag called Blender
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:13 PM - A-z-K: Don't worry - we'l all still be here when you get out
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM - A-z-K: Xya will still be laying the smack down like a geriatric grandad with a drinking problem making everyone cry at family dinner
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Spyer: And I would not have it any other way
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Xyaminou: I will
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM - A-z-K: Someone has to do it, at least his gammar is good
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM - MartinPL: Thats why Empires could be great occasion to learn 3D modeling for. If i fail, things gonna be ignored, if it gonna be good, then it have chance to be new model for vehicle. It is opportunity i trying to take
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - A-z-K: Best case scenario - Xya only gives you another 10 years in the Gulag
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - MartinPL: Yep
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: do it
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - MartinPL: "JUST DO IT"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - A-z-K: chop chop
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: but be reminded youll need to make your own models not just rip stuff of the the intertubes
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - MartinPL: Do i look like "made in china"? :P
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: honest answer? :P
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: everything is made in china those days
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: no jk
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: does that include kids?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM - flasche: i thought china is getting too expensive nowerdays?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM - flasche: you gotta go with time
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:23 PM - MartinPL: i have small liking over Japanese WW2 cans, that makes me asian enough to banzai?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:24 PM - MartinPL: now i reminded myself i can't draw concept of vehicles... well, i'm best at being a tank designer... :D
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Xyaminou: gonna test mikleo's plugin if anyone is interesting
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Xyaminou: interested*
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM - MartinPL: What test needs?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know yet, but usually the more we are the better.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM - MartinPL: well it still gonna be 5 year gulag so i have time to spare, i gonna join
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: take your time, the plugin isn't booting just yet lol.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:37 PM - MartinPL: i just hit join... still i listening to music :)
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: alright the plugin seems to be starting now
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM - Vdragon: what does the plugin do?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: lets you pick players for PUGs
    Apr 19, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: read his thread for more info
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: have i said "fucking source engine" yet?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: if not "fucking source engine"
    Apr 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:07 AM - Ranger: Steam down. Time to panic. *heavy breathing*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:21 AM - A-z-K: We can survive
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:23 AM - BigTeef: People don't talk to me enough for me to notice when steam breaks.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Smithy: That's so sad
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Ranger: D:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Smithy: I can keep going
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:27 AM - BigTeef: How the fuck is it sad? I don't want to be fucking bothered. Half the time people message me is when im jacking off or going to bed.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - flasche: yey
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Smithy: Almost endless supply
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - BigTeef: I kind of like this feature of images automatically putting img tags on themselves.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: MOAR
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: i like how it doesnt do that when you want it ...
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: why do crying pix make me smile
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: im weird
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - BigTeef: You had a baby for an avatar for years now
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - BigTeef: You just noticed
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: the baby is awesome
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: too bad its not perfect loop
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: i could watch it for days
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - BigTeef: Well im content with having a fucktard on twitter looking nearly identical to me
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 AM - BigTeef: Except hes a fucking huge MRA with an asian girlfriend
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: As complete
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: that was the other candidate but i liked the spoon more
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: Ask*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - BigTeef: Hes the one who showed me this tard.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Ranger: Whathefuck that kid
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: oh humans why do they have to grow up
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Smithy: Well, now I'm bored
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: and then we think were smart
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM - BigTeef: To fuck up the country
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:34 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: babies clearly are the better humans
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: oh yeah gijoe action figures
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:49 AM - BigTeef: http://www.whompcomic.com/comics/1491975993-2017-4-12-Friends-Free.jpg
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:56 AM - flasche: thats saddening
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:56 AM - flasche: it happened to me once
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: called my mum, shes dead now for 8 years. and i still know her number out of my head
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: wheeee fun things to talk about
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:58 AM - flasche: ^^
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Ranger: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:03 AM - complete_: cuck c johnson
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:04 AM - complete_: [​IMG]
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:28 AM - BigTeef: why do I love small face memes so much
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:34 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 1:38 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'm having a fun night messing with config files
    Apr 20, 2017 at 2:34 AM - BigTeef: http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news...arrested-after-cops-find-63-jobs-in-basement/
     
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    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:10 AM - A-z-K: Heyyyy I know that site. I live there
    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM - A-z-K: http://southendnewsnetwork.com/actualnews/english-defence-league-falls/
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:41 AM - McGyver: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zara-pepe-the-frog-skirt_us_58f7592ae4b029063d356362
    Apr 20, 2017 at 12:31 PM - A-z-K: To be honest I didnt realise that about pepe the frog
    Apr 20, 2017 at 2:54 PM - Ranger: ree?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: meh
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Ranger: So now there are two french servers?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i was having the worst time in my life dealing with configs last night
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:36 PM - flasche: x branded lol
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:36 PM - flasche: people .........
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: what configs?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: trying to improve fps on one of my games i have. part of it apparently had a connection improvement as well. wouldn't mind it, but i keeps doing some "ping measurement," at which my ping get fucked hard in the ass
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: it keeps doing*
    Apr 20, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i fix it myself, i just need to remove them
    Apr 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Ranger: http://i.imgur.com/16sA4Zc.jpg
    Apr 20, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: :jelly:
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Kidpaler: Lord, how did you do that?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Kidpaler: I want there to be flowers on the ground, how did you get flowers on the ground>
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:28 PM - flasche: oh lord - how did you get the - flowers on the groud? - my friends all got grass there - a way must be found
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - flasche: also goddamit where is my mercedes
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Kidpaler: I'm honestly curious because I thought it was during the compile that the grass is generated from the detai.vbsp and I know I only had grass show up on mine during compile, so that means he has a copy that he did with flowers
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Kidpaler: And I want those damn flowers.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Kidpaler: Speaking of which, when 2.13 comes out new version of Forestattack for low pop times that will probably include some bots for you to command around. If I can get that working without crashes.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - flasche: "yey" bots
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Kidpaler: Well, it will also depend which type of bot. Could get the ones that just roam around on their own, or the ones that take player squad orders
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Ranger: At least we will be able to kill something with the lmg.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:31 PM - flasche: my "yey" stays no matter which bots
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Kidpaler: heh, yea, right. Currently, bots are like turrets meaning if you get withint ehir general range you are dead.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:33 PM - flasche: they always be like turrets. turrets that RNG if you die or not, turrets still
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:33 PM - flasche: like for example if you stand still humans often dont see you
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: bots see you, they only might decide they dont act like they would
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: nt
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM - flasche: and decide really only means roll dice
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - flasche: bot would be neat for mapping though. but i wonder if they will work for comm maps so soon!?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - Kidpaler: They can't get in vehicles, but commanders can command infantry bots around.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:36 PM - Kidpaler: And they can E build structures atm
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:37 PM - Kidpaler: So, they kind of work for commanders?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Ranger: 100% accuracy?
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - flasche: well i mean itd be nice for testing out maps
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM - flasche: but i dont want to play against cheaters online
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Xyaminou: bots = bad
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Kidpaler: I mean, they can be made to be inaccurate, and no they aren't bad.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM - Xyaminou: yes you're right, they're worse than bad.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 6:48 PM - Ranger: They are the embodiment of evil.
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: bored
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:55 PM - Spyer: Fucking pub empires is the most annoying thing ever
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:55 PM - Spyer: I understand if you are stupid, take your time to learn things
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:56 PM - Spyer: But could you not be pants on retarted all the time
    Apr 20, 2017 at 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 20, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: fuck it let's seed
    Apr 20, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Thexa4: .
    Apr 20, 2017 at 10:33 PM - Thexa4: ;
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - flasche: ;there is no squadchat here
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: ADD CHANNELS
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: AND VOICE
    Apr 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: . ref please
     
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    Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM - Neoony: wtf
    Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/375c245aca975cd7495164717ae6900f.png
    Apr 21, 2017 12:09 PM - Neoony: TEEF!! Get your steam away from my forums profile. wtf xD
    Apr 21, 2017 12:09 PM - Neoony: guess thats some glitch xD
    Apr 21, 2017 12:10 PM - Neoony: forums totally failed placing this one xD https://i.gyazo.com/cf5113e578066eb3aafcad167cfd5312.png
    Apr 21, 2017 12:21 PM - Neoony: hmmmm
    Apr 21, 2017 12:22 PM - Neoony: a ref request plugin....hmmmmmm
    Apr 21, 2017 12:29 PM - BigTeef: https://images.washingtonpost.com/?....jpeg&w=1484&op=resize&opt=1&filter=antialias
    Apr 21, 2017 12:29 PM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 21, 2017 1:33 PM - Thexa4: :
    Apr 21, 2017 1:34 PM - Xyaminou: /kick thexa4 spam
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: we should test fuel today, I changed the tickets.
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: but we'd need like 21vs21
    Apr 21, 2017 2:18 PM - Xyaminou: to see if it makes the middle flag a POI
    Apr 21, 2017 2:24 PM - Xyaminou: I actually changed tickets on all the maps to be ((maxplayers-2)/2)*100+1
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: basically 10 tickets per player +1 for the commander
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: *10 btw no *100
    Apr 21, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: can't fucking edit the shoutbox
    Apr 21, 2017 2:26 PM - Xyaminou: here
    Apr 21, 2017 4:03 PM - Ranger: He's HAWT.
    Apr 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Ranger: 10? I can't tell it's not a good number even without testing thanks to my powerful almighty brain.
    Apr 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: good news, I may get my 500/200mbit sooner than expected
    Apr 21, 2017 4:26 PM - Thexa4: ☃
    Apr 21, 2017 4:27 PM - Thexa4: 200 upload would be nice to have :)
    Apr 21, 2017 4:29 PM - Xyaminou: slowDL would finally become fastDL
    Apr 21, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: in before I lose internet BEFORE they transfer the line
    Apr 21, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: but yeah the date for fastDL is 02 of may
    Apr 21, 2017 5:09 PM - Lazybum: Ya know I coulda sworn utc was 5 hours ahead of est but no, it's 4
    Apr 21, 2017 5:09 PM - Lazybum: Feels like I missed a couple of things because of that
    Apr 21, 2017 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: wait that's in like 2h
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum you event time announcer says 22nd
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: and your thread says 21st
    Apr 21, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: you goofed up
    Apr 21, 2017 5:32 PM - Neoony: just following the standards :D
    Apr 21, 2017 5:33 PM - Xyaminou: lol, hey I fixed mine pretty quick :p
    Apr 21, 2017 5:34 PM - Neoony: :)
    Apr 21, 2017 5:36 PM - Lazybum: whoops
    Apr 21, 2017 5:36 PM - Lazybum: is fixed now
    Apr 21, 2017 6:03 PM - flasche: the announcement is nice
    Apr 21, 2017 6:04 PM - Neoony: :P
    Apr 21, 2017 6:05 PM - Neoony: I shall be there xD
    Apr 21, 2017 6:08 PM - Thexa4: cool
    Apr 21, 2017 6:20 PM - Xyaminou: wtf
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: personal intrusion
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: the forum is talking to me
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: it's sentient
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: run
    Apr 21, 2017 6:21 PM - flasche: thats a neat feature :D
    Apr 21, 2017 6:22 PM - Neoony: Forums AI
    Apr 21, 2017 6:28 PM - Ranger: lazybum got spiked
    Apr 21, 2017 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: neat feature that's never used
    Apr 21, 2017 6:40 PM - Lazybum: Uhh, I hope to be there?
    Apr 21, 2017 6:41 PM - Lazybum: oh, annoucement is seen all over the forums, not just the homepage or whatever this is called
    Apr 21, 2017 6:46 PM - flasche: just close it if it bugs you
    Apr 21, 2017 6:50 PM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    Apr 21, 2017 8:44 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah lazy I guess its a good way to remind people
    Apr 21, 2017 9:28 PM - Ranger: lol read an article saying surgical airstrikes in north korea are unlikely cuz they put their impotant stuff and bombs deep underground
    Apr 21, 2017 9:31 PM - Ranger: "Massive Ordnance Penetrator"
    Apr 21, 2017 11:16 PM - A-z-K: Cool the forum has event announcements
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: no it doesn't
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: my PUG isn't announced so it doesn't
    Apr 22, 2017 12:09 AM - Xyaminou: anyway Empires fucking sucks
    Apr 22, 2017 12:11 AM - Thexa4: You should be able to add an event to your thread, it'll then appear here: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?calendar/
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what I'm supposed to do
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: please provide non 20-year-old forums
    Apr 22, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: that are user friendly
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: I clicked literally everywhere
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: nothing happened
    Apr 22, 2017 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: no idea why you linked that
    Apr 22, 2017 12:33 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 22, 2017 1:14 AM - BigTeef: " We would love to see you there BigTeef!"
    Apr 22, 2017 1:14 AM - BigTeef: Whoever the fuck would love to see me there needs to talk to a psychiatrist
    Apr 22, 2017 1:27 AM - A-z-K: I'd love to see you there
    Apr 22, 2017 1:28 AM - A-z-K: Imma sign up solely for that reason
    Apr 22, 2017 2:22 AM - Lawliet: Hello Tama
    Apr 22, 2017 2:26 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i had things to say and then i remembered
     
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    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: omfg I just realised the calendar on steam groups starts on sundays, fucking retarded american dates.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: events were all wrong
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's some judaism shit right there
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Just read an article about a guy in Panama City, Florida got jailed for stabbing a another guy in an argument over how much spice should be put in a pot of gumbo
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in the times of yore, sunday was the first day of the week
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: old testament shit. And new testament too.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jesus got up on the first day of the week, for starters
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you're saying destroyer
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sundays are the first day of the week for judaism-based societies
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Xyaminou: steam is retarded, god it.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: got*
    Apr 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i mean, if you "god it", maybe it'll turn to the gregorian interpretation of sunday being the last day
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Xyaminou: these forums are dead
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Lazybum: To add your events to the calender click the thread tool button near the top of the thread. It's on the same bar as the page selection.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Lazybum: you should see "add to calender" under the thread tools
    Apr 22, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Lazybum: only thread creators can do that I think, so if you make an event thread you yourself have to add it
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Paradox: can u also remove it
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Paradox: like so it never shows?
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Thexa4: You don't see it if you're playing empires :)
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Paradox: ow u can just click it away lol
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum, I checked, I can't, it's probably only forum admins DUH!
    Apr 22, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Lazybum: ah
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Lazybum: well that's confusing, because I can only add threads I create
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Lazybum: so I would assume it's just thread makers, oh well
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: so basically no one knows how these forums even work, got it.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Thexa4: mods can now add events
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: glad we have 20 years old forums that nobody knows anything about.
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Thexa4: Beta is happening right now, join up! :)
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: well to be honest I thought it was just up to mods to add events, but I couldn't add anyone elses, so i thought you just had to make the thread
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: I don't even know or remember what you see if you don't have mod powers
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Thexa4: I gave you permission to add calendar items to other threads as well
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: oh ok
    Apr 22, 2017 at 6:59 PM - Lazybum: cool
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Thexa4: without mod you can't add them
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM - Thexa4: So if anyone wants an event to be on the calendar, ask nicely
    Apr 22, 2017 at 7:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it took us about 30 seconds of playing to crash the server :D
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Neoony: not like the calendar is anyhow noticable
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Neoony: So Iam for "notices" even for pugs/events :P
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM - Neoony: hmm guess something is up again with steam community....according to this: https://i.gyazo.com/18d80c4e7f371954e8da327f13a12c9e.png devs are the only ones playing the game xD
    Apr 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM - Neoony: but pretty sure this happened before :P
    Apr 22, 2017 at 9:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: had this for a good while now
    Apr 23, 2017 at 3:29 AM - Ranger: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1D15p_vdP3HkrH8wgjQRw/videos
     
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    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just realised i miss zoom being here
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: even though the bastard spent the past two days laughing at literally everything i do in warframe
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:20 PM - NekoBaron: Wheres the option to delete my empires forum account? I resent this place illigaly keeping my data, who do I sue?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - James: Eh, that would be me
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - James: Considering I set this entire place up, and got left with nothing but a angry kid on my dick
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: Shoutbox suddenly took a very dark turn...
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - NekoBaron: Racist
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: Dark turn as in black people?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: I swear I'm not black!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - James: Only from the waist down atleast ;)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ok what just happened
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: uh is james back?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: I thought the dev team jousted james
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Paradox: All hail king james
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM - NekoBaron: I as quite serrious though, wheres the option to delete my forum account?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Paradox: there is none
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:29 PM - NekoBaron: I think we can sue then since I dont want empires holding onto my data anymore, I should be able to freely delete my account.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have been here for three messages and are already stirring up shit
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Paradox: neko it depends if there was a disclaimer when u signed up
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Paradox: also dont u have to be older than X age to voluntarily sue someone?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Paradox: and arent u like 14?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: message a forum administrator with the deletion request instead of causing trouble
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM - NekoBaron: I just want my account/details/information to be deleted and removed, theres no reason for not having the option be there, I shouldnt have to message admins for a basic account deletion request.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's just, like, your opinion, man
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM - NekoBaron: you can call it opinion or you can call it the law.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you show me some relevant passages regarding this? I'm far from an expert in the field
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Xyaminou: ah finally some drama, it had been too long!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Mikleo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Mikleo: but its only for big issues
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i only skimmed but it seems to mostly pertain to search engines and surely doesnt say anything about needing an automated process; quite the opposite, in fact
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:45 PM - NekoBaron: theres other laws, and skim reading it is not the same as knowing it.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Ranger: I DEMAND JUSTICE
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Ranger: TO THE GALLOWS
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course not. if you were implying that you do know it, can you show something for it?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Ranger: I have a large team of expert lawyers working on this, including Matt Murdock. You guys are screwed.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Ranger: Also wtf, le wild James magically appeared.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:09 PM - Xyaminou: hey mikleo, any chance you can remove the 2 minutes lock before the PUG starts?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: it's clearly an AI replacing James
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: that has been spying on us all along
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: it got triggered by "sue"
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: lol
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: Neko baron talking like donald trump
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: Its the law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: does not specify which law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: doesnt specificy shit, he just assumes its the law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Paradox: also Idk where this server is located
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Paradox: but its only the law if its the law in the country this serve ris located
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Thexa4: legal entity is hosted in the Netherlands
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: I doubt neko baron knows jack shit abou the law in netherland
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: so shuv it up your ass neko
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: with your donald trumpesque talk
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Paradox: disgusting
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Thexa4: please stop insulting people
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Paradox: I just told him to shuv it up his ass
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Paradox: barely insulting if you ask me
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Thexa4: whatever it is, please stop
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:25 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: wait - they have law in the netherlands?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Thexa4: we're very good at taxes :)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 6:41 PM - A-z-K: Neko I'm downloading all your empires data now and I'm going to sell it on the dark Web for whippets
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Paradox: azk the real internet rebel
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Paradox: pug in an hour!!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:01 PM - Kidpaler: Security couldn't be more right. Days of PUGS are usually dead till PUG time
    Apr 23, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: WARMUP STARTING IN 3 MINUTES!
    Apr 23, 2017 at 8:03 PM - Paradox: 24 people playing a pug lol SAD
    Apr 23, 2017 at 10:31 PM - complete_: im sending in a legal threat to CBS Interactive so that they delete my gameFAQs account because of this totally existing law
    Apr 23, 2017 at 10:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: here's a question for empires experts, how long is the delay to repairing on a repair pad after taking damage to your tank?
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:00 PM - complete_: you know a jump takes 3/14ths but not how long until a repair pad repairs? (the answer is not long enough to care about it)
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Ranger: I'm not expert but I've heard it's supposed to be 20 seconds after taking the hit. I have not noticed such delay. It feels to me it's less than 20.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Lazybum: 10 seconds would make more sense, but I feel like it's only 5
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Lazybum: 3 or 5, not long at all
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Lawliet: Depends on if you are bio'd
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM - MartinPL: .
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM - MartinPL: finally shoutbox is live for me... damn bugs
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:26 PM - MartinPL: oh dammit, refreshing site kills shoutbox again :|
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I hope some people enjoyed the PUG.
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: I DIDN'T
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: >:(
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: oh poo, stupid emoticons
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: one day I'll get to play in pugs again, one day....
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: Vote in my testing times thread plz
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: Muy importante
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM - Xyaminou: Lazybum you need to put UTC times instead of night/day etc...
    Apr 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause an american voting for "night" isn't the same as a european voting for "night"
    Apr 24, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Lazybum: read that last sentence plz
    Apr 24, 2017 at 1:14 AM - BigTeef: Okay
    Apr 24, 2017 at 1:14 AM - BigTeef: [Window Title] Microsoft Windows Search Indexer [Main Instruction] Microsoft Windows Search Indexer has stopped working [Content] Windows is checking for a solution to the problem... [Cancel]
     
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    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: bad players believing exact timings aren't important are not "experts" tyvm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guess i will need a helpful to check it out ingame
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: helpful soul*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'm some what pissed now
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i spent all morning to complete a study guide for english just to find out she dropped the due date
    Apr 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: fucking hell
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's fine, you have it ready(ier) for later
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we going though a book called Night
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we're*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Lawliet: Night is gud
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: you mean Good Night?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Lawliet: No
    Apr 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Lawliet: Night by Elie Wiesel
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Lazybum: It's a book alright
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Lazybum: a bit dry ot be honest
    Apr 24, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Xyaminou: what is "book"? what do you do with it?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM - BigTeef:
    Apr 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: wtf happened to hipchat?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Minato: I'm a simple man, I see Kumiko and I hit like
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: anyone wanna play alien swarm?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm gonna shout at people during the long may weekend
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so, come friday, yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i thought you didn't like that type of games though?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:14 PM - Xyaminou: pew pew
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM - Vdragon: i wanna
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM - Vdragon: too l8?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: nah
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: get on steam
    Apr 24, 2017 at 8:59 PM - Neoony: oh new alien swarm? :o
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:08 PM - Xyaminou: new campaigns, get in steam
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:23 PM - PwnedYoAss: Alien Swarm, has new content?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 9:23 PM - PwnedYoAss: SHIIIITTTT that sounds awesome
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: we'll probably play some more tomorrow just send me a PM
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: done for today
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:54 PM - BigTeef: ScardyBob if you are reading this shit, put your empires tutorial videos in a playlist.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what empires tutorials?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Lazybum: Don't think i ever played alien swarm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you should play alien swarm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Lazybum: I don't remember it sounding super exciting though
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just...with friendos
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Lazybum: just pew pew til theres nothing to pew pew
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sounds like killing floor :P
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Lazybum: oh wait it's top down, that's hte thing I didnt like
    Apr 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also not true, there are objectives on the map to fulfill, and they are the actual goal; aliens are just obstacles best removed with lead
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can't argue with that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: kf2 exemplifies things going sideways in the worst possible ways
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: it's not bad, requires a fair bit of coordination, but not too much to be annoying. But yeah it's pew pew at aliens, just shoot aliens are relax.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: and that's what makes it great, super exciting stuff there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: its like whenever everything goes wrong in dnd
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Lazybum: good times
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: good point, DnD when?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still waiting for dnd, lazybum
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya: there's a lot of variables regarding my stuff, the biggest limiting factor being the main party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Lazybum: whos in the main party?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wired/zeke/xellos/zoom
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: zeke rolled a bard with +11 to persuasion
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and keeps rolling high teens on persuasion checks
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Lazybum: what happened to that other dude, dwarf cleric?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so we keep seeing 30 rolls
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Lazybum: sounds like that rogue with 11 to stealth teef played in something
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we had a disagreement and he decided against playing
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: that's what bards are for :p
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: talk you were out of everything
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Lazybum: boooooo
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: did he get high deception too?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plenty deception
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: wait bodyleakage stopped for good?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: for good with that party/campaign, not with dnd
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: campaign or world?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: campaign
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: right so same as me
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: it's a silly campaign, not enough dancing in there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: wait x is done too?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Lazybum: ddd you losing all your players, what gives?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'll get you reading materials as soon as the party clears up one important detail, but we're having IRL scheduling issues so it might be a while
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah xya is done, i should get VODs up :P
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: long story short, vampires don't respect olin, and guards are dumb
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: something something murderhobo party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Lazybum: lol, but at least his character is still not dead right?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: he didn't "lose" me
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no, but he spent 2~ sessions unconscious and/or tied up in a dungeon
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: nah Olin is alive if anything...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now he resigned himself to religion
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: well...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Lazybum: the wizard found god?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which xya assured me was a temporary thing, but as i said, one important detail requires the party to be resolved
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Xyaminou: well you know Olin
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Lazybum: sounds a bit suspect to me, he's pulling another con I tell ya what
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Lazybum: oh
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still disappointed party didn't go for that medusa thing i prepared
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: you could have been even more disappointed 'cause I wanted to skip the laura encounter too
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: Olin wasn't going to go check out the noises
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm 99% sure that it'd be a laura thing where i'm the only person interested in what'd happen
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which noises?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: went north to find paladin, find paladin
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: when we got into town
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh yeah that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well, paladin's still out there
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: we were going to the inn, we heard noises, Olin would have just ignored it if it wasn't for the others.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now i'm considering ending the campaign if i ever TPK the party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: going elsewhere
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or back in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: we went north to find paladin, so find paladin, fuck policing the town.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: honestly i'm a sucker for fresh starts
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: paladin's still not found
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: paladin will never been found now
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: nobody's ever going north again after that.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if i kill party, yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: honestly they are non-plussed about the concept of "north" to say the least
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: can't imagine why...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: shit, now i'm entertaining the thought of rebooting the campaign
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: anyway I want that level 6
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm still designing the details of what's going to happen, but there'll be a power spike
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't know about rebooting but Olin definitely doesn't want anything to do with that part of the world anymore
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: wanna go where it's warm
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: where it's not 15°C indoors
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well it'd be a full blown "going back in time" kind of deal
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: errr, not going back in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it'd be like pushing "new game" on the main menu
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: sure, make me level 20 I'll goback in time
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't know about that, new game requires new characters
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: also low levels are boring
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: but flint had to take so many beatings and near deaths to get to 5
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: D:
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Lazybum: i don't think he's making a second trip
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: honestly like low levels
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: later levels tend to be more annoying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: low levels would go past relatively fast i think, with a dedicated party of 5 or 6 i estimate 3-4 sessions per level
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Lazybum: sure there's more options, but really this just means poeple take longer to do things because they have more options
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: including tons of roleplaying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: 3 to 4 session per level? that's still a lot
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum think positives: you coudl reroll stats
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: I mean in the end I don't really care DnD is DnD but I like options, you know.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay maybe less then; 2-3 encounters should level you, meaning they'd be a bit on the tough side, but worth your while
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i dunno how much time such a party would need for this many encounters
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: you can't really average the number of session per level, since higher level require so much more XP.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but that's all daydreaming, i have a party to TPK before this hhappens
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: I'm sure Olin can help with that :p
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: higher levels mean tougher enemies which means more XP; it somewhat works out
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: if he just so happens to be assigned to the area
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: giving xp for rping or just doing without xp altoghter are options to help leveling
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, i will go with a very solid maybe
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's a lot of variables i have in play
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: also I still don't know
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: like just give a level for hitting some critcal point or doing some massive undertaking
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one hypothetical outcome would be pvpenis
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, i agree very much, i need to get better with roleplaying XP
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: like, do you have a plan for the spells and gear?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Lazybum: strangely enough, i think flint would excel in a pvp situation
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause technically I don't have either.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, you'll have a better idea once i sort out the one inhibiting factor and give you a wall of text to slog through
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have a plan for the watcher training, but party can influence potentially critical events
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: who doesn't like a good wall of text
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i'm waiting until they can't anymore
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: neat
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, flint would excel in pvp because everyone ignores him while he just dishes out obscene damage steadily
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: now im lost, wonder how many sessions I missed
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: more like i can take several hits
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: I'm just wondering if I get to train into divination since I would assume it's what the watchers do
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: many hours, we went away from a fixed 4-hour session time to "go until someone falls over"
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: 1 hour sessions?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: dang that's short as hell
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: no, 9 hour
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: hours*
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: I think we did like 9 8 8
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, there's a subset of watchers who focus heavily on divination spells, but the part of the brotherhood you seem itnerested in is more practically oriented; they get spells, strong ones too, and some divination as well, but they receive a surprising amount of combat training
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: 9 hours and no one gets knocked out? just how many healers does the party have now?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: so that's like 10 hours spent in jail
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well now they have a bard
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: and it didn't die first encounter?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: i dont beleive it
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but before that party was avoiding direct combat and played smart
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: good point D, just need them to get back on my feat and get OP.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i removed crossbows from the game
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: i also don't beelive that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: ???? but how?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay i removed crossbows from the party's immediate future
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: lol removed crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: omfg
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: replaced them with liches that showed restraint
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: never playing again
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: or well, i guess no one is using htem, but still
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: too many bad memories about crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: crossbow phobia
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: first lich played conservative and only got off one spell, second lich only casted a single ice storm and almost chunked the party
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: yes Lazybum, NO ONE IS USING THEM!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: I agree!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: real power still not shown
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: why is no one using crossbows??!?
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: WHY
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Lazybum: well the party at least, i didn't mean the hundreds of bandits
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: sorry, having flashbacks.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah, guards went to chase a vampire and left crossbows at home
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: context: lack of crossbow is the snowball that triggered an avalanche of beating to death.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so vampire escaped with like 20 hp, while in clear view of most guards
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: "oh no I can't get on the roof"...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: after they shot at us when we arrived, with crossbows.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it was a warning shot
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: a shot is a shot, from a crossbow!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: true that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said at some point after that debaacle, i forgot to give them crossbows
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: snowballs... snowballs... avalanche...
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay enough daydreaming; to sum up, party needs to do a thing then olin gets to progress; things are messy for the main party and they will have some "fun"; considering "reverting" the campaign to around day 1 if main party wipes
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plan for tomorrow: clean flat, buy movie, mapping stream so that people stop blaming xya
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we have bots to implement!
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: buy movie? who buy movies? just download it.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: I still need to write a design guide for Commander Maps
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: except I don't know how to write and I don't know how to map.
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: let me correct the statement
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: buy http://store.steampowered.com/app/584980/
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, dump shit into a chat with me or some google doc or something; just do a stream of consciousness and we can work out sense from it at a later date
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure that's still buying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah buying
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I opened a google doc yesterday to do just that
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: and then nothing
    Apr 24, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: keep it open so that you can just alt tab to it at a moment's notice, something should come ^^
     
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    Apr 25, 2017 1:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: mr.die sent a friend invite to me. should i start worrying now?
    Apr 25, 2017 2:03 PM - CRITAWAKETS: is my bday
    Apr 25, 2017 2:03 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Also, you should not worry.
    Apr 25, 2017 2:15 PM - Ranger: He's going to Frankenstein control you with his exactly positioned satellites and TVs.
    Apr 25, 2017 2:47 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: who is mr. die ?
    Apr 25, 2017 2:48 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: shall i start calling myslelf mr. LL?
    Apr 25, 2017 2:48 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: Yo fellow aries happy birthday
    Apr 25, 2017 2:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i wanted to go to a stripclub in montreal but did not get a chance :(
    Apr 25, 2017 2:50 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i even read the reviews on yelp :P
    Apr 25, 2017 2:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mrdie is....a figure. the kind of figure your parents warn you about
    Apr 25, 2017 2:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to put it shortly, avoid for your own sake.
    Apr 25, 2017 3:54 PM - Kidpaler: Do not accept the invite by MrDie.
    Apr 25, 2017 3:54 PM - Kidpaler: that IS a bad idea
    Apr 25, 2017 3:54 PM - Kidpaler: That is, unless you absolutely love communism
    Apr 25, 2017 4:31 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 25, 2017 4:32 PM - Fooshi: get out
    Apr 25, 2017 4:41 PM - Neoony: "They" are watching all the time
    Apr 25, 2017 4:43 PM - vipervicki: Happy Birthday CRITAWAKETS
    Apr 25, 2017 4:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.instagram.com/p/BTT_WC4FE0k/
    Apr 25, 2017 5:02 PM - Varbles: Fucking HipChat
    Apr 25, 2017 5:04 PM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 25, 2017 5:08 PM - A-z-K: ?
    Apr 25, 2017 5:09 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/dd7ffe30f4a31ba8b86620b27a316382.png
    Apr 25, 2017 7:13 PM - Ranger: D is like ok. Like everyone here is ok. Just don't pay attention.
    Apr 25, 2017 7:48 PM - PwnedYoAss: Sounds like a good time to jump to Slack!
    Apr 25, 2017 9:40 PM - BigTeef: The fuck is hipchat
    Apr 25, 2017 9:42 PM - Xyaminou: it's a chat for hipsters
    Apr 25, 2017 9:44 PM - BigTeef: So why the fuck are you here then?
    Apr 25, 2017 11:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya isnt a hipster
    Apr 26, 2017 12:44 AM - BigTeef: People who remove wages from thier server fit the hipster description.
    Apr 26, 2017 1:36 AM - A-z-K: Retro chic
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    Apr 26, 2017 5:12 AM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 26, 2017 5:13 AM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 26, 2017 11:52 AM - LordDz_2: YaaaaaaaaaaaaY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Apr 26, 2017 1:33 PM - Xyaminou: why not sundays?
    Apr 26, 2017 1:34 PM - Xyaminou: americans can't play on fridays and saturday is Pub Empires day.
    Apr 26, 2017 1:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a late enough friday would work, and we won't have that many maps to play
    Apr 26, 2017 1:54 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: a shitmaps night, sounds cool
    Apr 26, 2017 1:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what if someone makes a map out of shit?
    Apr 26, 2017 2:16 PM - Xyaminou: I can already predict that those maps will stay on Empires after the event. Players begging for them to be played, so thanks for that...
    Apr 26, 2017 2:25 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: would jeepjoust be in the map cycle?
    Apr 26, 2017 3:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: its already out so no, i would make something new
    Apr 26, 2017 3:35 PM - Xyaminou: I need to counter that with a Goodmaps night, so people have to make new maps.
    Apr 26, 2017 3:37 PM - Varbles: I haven't been able to play in a while, but isn't the concern still that events on the weekends are disrupting the only time new players ever play?
    Apr 26, 2017 3:40 PM - Mikleo: New players want balanced teams so they're not rekt every game by stacking vets. Which is something draftpick addresses.
    Apr 26, 2017 3:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: goodmaps take hours upon hours to make. I can make my own shitmaps event in a few evenings
    Apr 26, 2017 3:44 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what if there was a map where it was a carnival with booths and rides you can interact with
    Apr 26, 2017 3:45 PM - Xyaminou: Hey Varbles, SoF 2.0 when? :p
    Apr 26, 2017 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: Also we never password the server so nothing is stopping newbies from joining. And when they do join instead of a chaos of unbalanced teams and shitty maps they join to organised and mostly balanced games.
    Apr 26, 2017 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: If they have the patience and brain for it. If not, they don't belong on Empires anyway so good riddance.
    Apr 26, 2017 3:50 PM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 26, 2017 3:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you need the casual community to have the hardcore dedicated community
    Apr 26, 2017 3:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: shit's not simple
    Apr 26, 2017 4:15 PM - A-z-K: Empires nighclubs have the most exclusive guest lists that nobody asks to be on
    Apr 26, 2017 4:15 PM - A-z-K: But if you did want to get in, you can't, because they only allow the juicest fruits
    Apr 26, 2017 4:25 PM - BigTeef: Next thing you know its going to be No rax, coms only, rainbow road.
    Apr 26, 2017 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: that would be hobbes_v2
    Apr 26, 2017 4:28 PM - BigTeef: But there are actually raxes in that map
    Apr 26, 2017 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: only if you don't lose them
    Apr 26, 2017 4:33 PM - A-z-K: Sell the starting Barracks! Do eeeet.
    Apr 26, 2017 4:33 PM - A-z-K: If there is one thing I have learnt. It is always sell the first barracks.
    Apr 26, 2017 8:44 PM - Kidpaler: Aw man, I have the best shitty maps ever. I will make a map with a literal giant pile of shit. That'll be the shittiest shit map.
    Apr 26, 2017 9:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ive been thinking about a map all day, to no avail
    Apr 26, 2017 9:03 PM - flasche: dont think about it
    Apr 26, 2017 9:03 PM - flasche: just do it
    Apr 26, 2017 9:03 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 26, 2017 9:05 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What if there was a map where you were on pirate ships and everyone has to be grens to sink the other ship before they destroy yours
    Apr 26, 2017 9:06 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Just throwing ideas out here
    Apr 26, 2017 9:07 PM - Thexa4: ww2 style naval battles with artillery guns on ships :)
    Apr 26, 2017 10:07 PM - VulcanStorm: you want a map idea?
    Apr 26, 2017 10:08 PM - VulcanStorm: tunnels.
    Apr 26, 2017 10:08 PM - VulcanStorm: there aren't enough comm maps with tunnels...
    Apr 26, 2017 10:08 PM - VulcanStorm: also, aircraft
    Apr 26, 2017 10:35 PM - BigTeef: I want trenchs and no man zones
    Apr 26, 2017 11:00 PM - Ranger: make map with voxel and build underground castles
    Apr 26, 2017 11:28 PM - Kidpaler: How about we recreate MInecraft in Empires?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: any other terrible ideas?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:30 PM - Kidpaler: Ummm
    Apr 26, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (that's a lot of work)
    Apr 26, 2017 11:30 PM - Kidpaler: A map where you fight over literal shit
    Apr 26, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: literal shit? you mean alt-right memes? you already made memehouse jeep race ...
    Apr 26, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 26, 2017 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but it has to be new
    Apr 26, 2017 11:32 PM - Kidpaler: I have a fantastic shit map night map idea.
    Apr 26, 2017 11:33 PM - Kidpaler: You could do a naval battle? Blakwake style?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:33 PM - Kidpaler: One person drives the ship, the other team has to get close to destroy it? Has arty cannons underneath
    Apr 26, 2017 11:33 PM - Kidpaler: Umm, a new jeep race that isn't filled with bad memes
    Apr 26, 2017 11:34 PM - flasche: you could make a candyland map
    Apr 26, 2017 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: How about the hall of Epilepsy?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:34 PM - flasche: a tribute to rainbowroad
    Apr 26, 2017 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you don't want players to die involuntarily, you want them to gouge their eyes out of their own accord
    Apr 26, 2017 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: True, we cant lower the population of Empires anymore.,
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - flasche: challenge accepted
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - flasche: :P
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: How about a map where you jump around and fist eachother in the air?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: Or, how about using scripted aircraft to fight each other
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: or how about shoot the duck
    Apr 26, 2017 11:35 PM - flasche: oh remake q3dm17
    Apr 26, 2017 11:37 PM - Kidpaler: How about emp_waterslide?
    Apr 26, 2017 11:37 PM - flasche: or q3dm7
    Apr 26, 2017 11:37 PM - Kidpaler: shuddup with your idea, my ideas are 10000x better
    Apr 26, 2017 11:37 PM - flasche: or q3dm6
    Apr 26, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 26, 2017 11:51 PM - Ranger: gmod has fully functional skryim dragons. i say we add them in empires so we can kill them with tanks. finally homing missiles will be useful. thermal locking or something
    Apr 27, 2017 12:00 AM - Xyaminou: I am so not looking forward to those shitty maps
    Apr 27, 2017 12:00 AM - Kidpaler: fantastic, you dont have to play
    Apr 27, 2017 12:02 AM - Xyaminou: it's not about playing or not playing, it's about the people who will be "oh let's play that" "oh let's play this shitty map again" for the weeks after that fucking event
    Apr 27, 2017 12:06 AM - PwnedYoAss: I got it. We remake slaughtered, except we imagine that it's several million years later so s-bend can only fit one heavy tank through it, and the dam bridge area has been eaten by a mountain range.
    Apr 27, 2017 12:12 AM - Kidpaler: Oh oh oh, to improve upon that. Why not just make a map like slaughtered, only turn it into a flat desert that you can drive everywhere but you die everywhere because its irradiated from a nuke
    Apr 27, 2017 12:13 AM - Thexa4: A map with constant health drain, where you have to hop from amory to armory go get anywhere :)
    Apr 27, 2017 12:13 AM - Ranger: 1 million years later, slaughtered would be either underwater, or a rocky landscape and apart from that, entirely flat
    Apr 27, 2017 12:14 AM - Kidpaler: How about amap with a working volcano that kills you
    Apr 27, 2017 12:15 AM - Thexa4: artillery only map?
    Apr 27, 2017 12:15 AM - Thexa4: underwater map
    Apr 27, 2017 12:15 AM - Kidpaler: Underwater wouldn't work all that well
    Apr 27, 2017 12:16 AM - Thexa4: if you add forcefield domes to keep water out and tanks in it might work
    Apr 27, 2017 12:16 AM - Kidpaler: Paging @lord_dz
    Apr 27, 2017 12:17 AM - Ranger: Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
    Apr 27, 2017 12:17 AM - Kidpaler: I actually wanted to do something like that for a moon map. Have a thing you walk into to equip it and then you can walk outside and take no damage
    Apr 27, 2017 12:17 AM - Thexa4: hl2 suit :)
    Apr 27, 2017 12:19 AM - Kidpaler: Yea but thats a lot of entity work I dont really know how to do
    Apr 27, 2017 12:21 AM - Kidpaler: That would totally be a lorddz thing
    Apr 27, 2017 1:07 AM - complete_: why do you guys only play when I'M NOT busy
    Apr 27, 2017 1:07 AM - complete_: oh wait i mean when im busy
    Apr 27, 2017 2:27 AM - Xyaminou: God I hate people with fucking GIFs in their signature or avatar. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
    Apr 27, 2017 2:27 AM - Xyaminou: Do you even realise how annoying it is?
    Apr 27, 2017 2:28 AM - Xyaminou: had to block it with ublock just so I could read the fucking thread in peace.
    Apr 27, 2017 2:34 AM - BigTeef: Thanks for the idea
    Apr 27, 2017 2:35 AM - BigTeef: Much better
    Apr 27, 2017 3:35 AM - Kidpaler: Bravo Big Teef. Bravo.
    Apr 27, 2017 3:40 AM - JustGoFly: Update broke game
    Apr 27, 2017 3:41 AM - JustGoFly: http://steamcommunity.com/id/JustGoFly/home
    Apr 27, 2017 3:42 AM - JustGoFly: After playing for about an hour - and 30 mins on Slaughtered on ESB server, all vehicles on both teams dropped under the map
    Apr 27, 2017 3:43 AM - JustGoFly: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....posite-to=*,*|1024:575&background-color=black
    Apr 27, 2017 3:43 AM - JustGoFly: [​IMG]
    Apr 27, 2017 3:43 AM - JustGoFly: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=913945375
    Apr 27, 2017 3:44 AM - JustGoFly: If you want to see it - join ESB and spawn a vehicle, before server is restarted
    Apr 27, 2017 3:44 AM - JustGoFly: Misfire has video
    Apr 27, 2017 3:51 AM - Kidpaler: Lol thats kinda funny
    Apr 27, 2017 4:24 AM - BigTeef: submarines when
    Apr 27, 2017 4:29 AM - Señor_Awesome: submarines are now
    Apr 27, 2017 4:29 AM - Ranger: I think this has happened before.
    Apr 27, 2017 4:30 AM - Ranger: Please don't bring back old bugs and present them as new. Make new bugs!
    Apr 27, 2017 4:53 AM - Kidpaler: But some of the old bugs features were always requested, I applaud them for bringing back the old bugs features
     
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    Apr 27, 2017 6:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is actually a feature that is supposed to fix the "tank spam" problem by hiding all tanks as per xya's suggestion that there should be less vehicles
    Apr 27, 2017 6:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: direct your feedback to xua@gmail.com pls
    Apr 27, 2017 6:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh wait typo xya@gmail.com
    Apr 27, 2017 7:09 AM - Ranger: xua sounds better
    Apr 27, 2017 7:14 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: send it to xua too, why not
    Apr 27, 2017 7:19 AM - Sgt.Security: *Teef intensifies*
    Apr 27, 2017 1:09 PM - Xyaminou: oh noes how did you find my secret e-mail address.
    Apr 27, 2017 1:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guessed.
    Apr 27, 2017 2:18 PM - flasche: its mr.x@scotlandyard.fr
    Apr 27, 2017 2:31 PM - Xyaminou: Boy I'm glad I didn't organise a PUG this week-end, enjoy the game being fucked...
    Apr 27, 2017 7:12 PM - Xyaminou: did you seriously release 2.13 without fixing the tank HUD being rotated? 'cause that was already there on the first playtest...
    Apr 27, 2017 7:28 PM - Lazybum: Was it? I didn't notice that
    Apr 27, 2017 8:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: our reporting system dun goofed?
    Apr 27, 2017 8:38 PM - flasche: why you report me?
    Apr 27, 2017 8:39 PM - flasche: :(
    Apr 27, 2017 8:39 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 27, 2017 8:39 PM - Spike: already found an issue the cannons collide with the tank at full speed in some tanks and for some reason land behind the nf light tank
    Apr 27, 2017 8:39 PM - Spike: gg
    Apr 27, 2017 8:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well you're not first to find it, but thanks for calling that out
    Apr 27, 2017 9:04 PM - Spike: i hope its fixed by the weekend
    Apr 27, 2017 9:04 PM - Spike: otherwise certain tanks wont be usable.......
    Apr 27, 2017 9:05 PM - Spike: let us pray for a hotfix
    Apr 27, 2017 9:06 PM - Spike: also the new tank cross hair looks abit odd with the normal crosshair
    Apr 27, 2017 9:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: combined arms, too many tanks, feature, blablabla
    Apr 27, 2017 9:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: send feedback to xya@gmail.com
    Apr 27, 2017 9:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (i think thexa and smithy are hunting the bug atm)
    Apr 27, 2017 9:07 PM - Spike: still no research tree ?
    Apr 27, 2017 9:07 PM - Spike: i mean research tree queue ?
    Apr 27, 2017 9:46 PM - Kidpaler: You know a research tree takes a while to add, right?
    Apr 27, 2017 10:04 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 27, 2017 10:05 PM - Spike: wrong picture fuck
    Apr 27, 2017 10:13 PM - BigTeef: lol
    Apr 27, 2017 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: I wonder if we'll ever have a day without linking of stupid pictures with random text on them in the shotubox
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: http://imgur.com/WGrp5I7
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: ... does that not embed? Fuck
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: [​IMG]
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: Motherfucker
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: [​IMG]
    Apr 27, 2017 10:20 PM - PwnedYoAss: There we go
    Apr 27, 2017 10:21 PM - BigTeef: [​IMG]
    Apr 27, 2017 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 27, 2017 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: #BlamyXya
    Apr 27, 2017 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: I CAN'T EVEN HASHTAG PROPERLY
    Apr 27, 2017 11:07 PM - Ranger: Maybe we're all retarded.
    Apr 27, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: maybe?
    Apr 27, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: simply being registered on this forum is a sign of questionable mental health
    Apr 27, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i spent the day arguing semantics and a near-meaningless name change
    Apr 27, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the plan was to open hammer and hommar things
    Apr 27, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hammer*
    Apr 27, 2017 11:37 PM - Ranger: retarded confirmed
    Apr 27, 2017 11:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes hello
    Apr 27, 2017 11:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: then again, i gained a degree of satisfaction from it, so i got that going for me which is nice
    Apr 28, 2017 12:03 AM - Ranger: its kinda weird that nukes were HIT but they were in nuclear fission
    Apr 28, 2017 12:37 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: So, are we having fun throwing guitars around now?
    Apr 28, 2017 12:41 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Sorry, typo. What I meant to say was "seismic resonators"
    Apr 28, 2017 1:45 AM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 28, 2017 2:00 AM - complete_: petition to make grenades into guitars so people wont throw them at each other
    Apr 28, 2017 2:10 AM - Thexa4: would probably make it clear that they don't damage infantry :)
    Apr 28, 2017 2:46 AM - Ranger: guitars are actually formidable melee weapons. electric guitars deal extra damage
    Apr 28, 2017 3:17 AM - A-z-K: Help
    Apr 28, 2017 3:17 AM - A-z-K: I just found out my flatmate didn't vote. I'm living with a communist
    Apr 28, 2017 3:18 AM - A-z-K: Kidpaler..
    Apr 28, 2017 3:19 AM - A-z-K: I dunno what to do. Murdering him in his sleep seems a bit extreme... but I dunno
    Apr 28, 2017 3:31 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Time to launch Operation Archangel II on his ass
    Apr 28, 2017 4:03 AM - complete_: what? there isnt a communist party where you live? youre missing out
    Apr 28, 2017 4:23 AM - Kidpaler: Send them to the sweet communistic paradise of death AZK
    Apr 28, 2017 4:30 AM - A-z-K: how to hide a body? I live near the coast...
    Apr 28, 2017 4:59 AM - Sgt.Security: You live in UK? Congratz, I think that's one of the hardest places on Earth (along with Taiwan) to safely kill someone.
     
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    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:07 AM - Kidpaler: AZK, just freeze an ice knife and kill him with the ice knife. No need to hide evidence
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Come on, body and the fact that "he disappeared here" are the hardest part. Knife is literally something you can just toss right into the trash can.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: True. Do it late at night while he's sleeping. Sneak into his flat with a chloroform rag and lay it next to his mouth so he becomes unconscious, stab him, and with your disposable clothes make sure to take his body to the river
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: Drive out to the country, throw your clothes awy.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: err burn them
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:13 AM - Sgt.Security: That'd work in United States, given the low population/CCTV density. If I am to kill someone here, I only know two reliable ways, killing the guy when I am not around/hiring a killer anonymously. I've seen a thread with people discussing"how to kill a guy right in front of you and get away with it?", the conclusion was that it's virtually impossible, even with pre-planning.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:15 AM - Sgt.Security: I have to pass by literally 5 CCTVs to get me some breakfast that's just down the street, just to give you the idea.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:30 AM - Kidpaler: Murder them in their home with clothes you can throw away and just leave the body?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:31 AM - Kidpaler: Use sharpened Ice so it just melts away, no murder wep. Use gloves/clothes you can easily burn
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:53 AM - Ranger: Butcher the body and throw pieces in the fireplace. ez. Neighbours, im just bbqing 24/7
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:58 AM - Ranger: Well then there's the thing of dissolving the body in a barrel. but then how do u get rid of the barrel if you're in a very populated area? and the materials you need can be used to track you down. meaning if you go buy them all together its suspicious.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:02 AM - Ranger: i mean dissolving with acids ofc
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:04 AM - Ranger: u can always dispose of the acid in the bathroom by reducing the acidity. but i wouldnt know how that could work out.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:05 AM - Ranger: if u wanna kill ur roommate with and dissolve his body and evidence iwth acid, the biggest problem will be getting the plastic container in the apartment without getting seen
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:06 AM - Ranger: also u will need air conditioning. a mask.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:08 AM - Ranger: drug him. get the materials in. inject him with any fatal substance. you don't have time to be cleaning blood all day so poison is better.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:09 AM - Ranger: I mean the best thing is to get a bathtub resistant to the acid you will use. so you wont have to purchase a container. so u can probably get away with it.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:09 AM - Ranger: he will become a missing person. then all u have to do is lie. cause u know. hes ur roommate
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:09 AM - Ranger: but anyway not that anyone will care cause hes communist amirit
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can we go back to discussing resonators vs grenades
    Apr 28, 2017 at 12:39 PM - Xyaminou: resonator vs grenades? I thought we were discussing grenades vs guitars?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 12:39 PM - Xyaminou: I vote for guitars btw.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i watched someone play outlast 2 last night, and holy shit it is the most trippest game i have ever seen
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: outlast 2 was an 8/10 imo, good but not outstanding
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the ending made no sense to me but i heard it was explained better if you read all the documents in the game....which i didn't
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (i watched a stream because i'm a pussy)
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: me too, but we what i don't get still is HOW DOES A WOMAN GOES FROM NORMAL TO PREGNANT OVERNIGHT?!
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:56 PM - Xyaminou: to be honest the horror genre just doesn't know what to do with itself anymore. So they just go for non-sensical bullshit and slap some jump-scare on top to make us forget how shit the storyline is.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:57 PM - Xyaminou: Silk, are you making a new map??
    Apr 28, 2017 at 1:57 PM - Xyaminou: or just a "shitmap" for the event?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is the big problem point for me. like, guy hasn't seen action for months, suddenly lady births baby from an empty stomach? But as i said, supposedly there was an explanation in the documents
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, did you even watch/play outlast 2?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM - Xyaminou: I did watch it yes.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:13 PM - Xyaminou: just not till the end, mostly because it was boring.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said, the plot makes little sense but supposedly it's actually really good if you read the documents strewn around for context
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course i can't find a link
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: cohhcarnage mentioned it during dropped frames though
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you can bother to listen through the outlast 2 bit, he drops the name of the author
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: errr author of the compilation that lets you make sense of the mess
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as for boring, well, it's a horror game, i don't think gameplay is very thrilling in those, particularly without any combat to spice things up. Outlast 2 isn't that much of an exception
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it boils down to a lot of running
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:33 PM - Xyaminou: https://www.youtube.com/upload
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:33 PM - Xyaminou: game is broken, gg.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Xyaminou: err wrong link
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have to play such a game to fully experience it, a stream doesn't let you feel the gameplay in quite the same way
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Xyaminou: no I mean Empires
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Xyaminou: changed subject
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (i was still talking outlast being boring)
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's fiiine, you don't need rear armor anyways
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: retreating is for pussies
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, that crosshair is ass now, what with all the shaking
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - Xyaminou: you literally can't hit anything while shooting forward
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 100 views combined on the pug videos from two weeks ago \o/
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dear lord that crosshair is irritating
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:43 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:43 PM - Xyaminou: oh, and, I found another bug, vehicle skills stop working after you re-customize on the repair pad.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:44 PM - Xyaminou: Scout speed at the very least, hard to test others.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:51 PM - Kidpaler: If you look closely at the end of outlast 2, right after she gives "birth", when blake shows lynn the baby she says "theres nothing there" and in the shadow on the ground there is no "baby" in his hands
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:52 PM - Xyaminou: so, no Empires this week-end then unless we revert.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 2:53 PM - Kidpaler: Also, the murdock dream machine is also known to cause fake pregnancies and kill women
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM - Kidpaler: Oh yea, and the second playthrough has some differences from the first which makes the story even more odd.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: spoilers? >_>
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Xyaminou: damnit I had to post stuff now I'm not going to reach the perfect ratio of 100 likes for 1000 messages.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Xyaminou: great changes...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Xyaminou: really...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Xyaminou: what the hell did you guys even test?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Spike: The artillery cannon colides with the model now...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Xyaminou: I miss one testing session and this is what happens?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Spike: CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A REVERT THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: by the way, it's been a month since I disabled the wages.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: so I am re-adding wages at a lowered amount.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: https://pastebin.com/WiFcw4MC
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Lazybum: you may want to remove that like mr ddd, edits are fun hohoho
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: remove what?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Lazybum: Remove your oppressive moderators, they're hell bent on taking your freedom fries away
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Lazybum: down with lax laws, up with stick up bum
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Lazybum: har har har
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what
    Apr 28, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Lazybum: what?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: guided got changed
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Sgt.Security: I did give Guided much longer "control range", few patches ago, this wasn't possible because previously missiles would fly out of the "control range" in just 2 seconds.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Sgt.Security: But yeah, I am not sure if something's broken in this patch.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Sgt.Security: I am not sure if this was possible before 2.13.0
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Xyaminou: before 2.13 guided behaved like RPG
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Xyaminou: now it behaves like turrets/homing
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:13 PM - Sgt.Security: It "probably" already behaved like that, just we didn't notice.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guided doesn't seem too different?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, what the hell did you mean with those msgs
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM - Sgt.Security: With that being said, I'mma try the Guided myself.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:14 PM - Lazybum: It always worked like that, guided works by trying ot point itself to where the reticule is hitting
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Lazybum: because it doesn't turn fast enough it gets stuck in that loop just like turrets
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Lazybum: i meant jokes mr ddd, but I also edited a post that I think you wouldn't have hit the like button on
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Sgt.Security: I think Xya's suggesting that missiles might be turning faster than expected, but I think it's already like that, because I extended the control range.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:17 PM - Sgt.Security: As a bonus, TOW-Guided ML does turn better than 2-slot Guided.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM - Lazybum: ah, yeah he's using tow
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:23 PM - McGyver: Are grenadiers and heavy tanks finally balanced? great job!
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Kidpaler: Nothing is ever balanced. This is Empires. No one can ever agree on anything.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:36 PM - A-z-K: I disagree
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Kidpaler: Go kill that commie AZK
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:38 PM - A-z-K: He's brown bread mate
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:38 PM - A-z-K: I'll sleep a lot easier now
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Xyaminou: THAT LOOKS
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Xyaminou: FUCKING AWFUL
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Xyaminou: did you even TEST anything?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Lazybum: I remember the hit detection killing me rather fast, I dunno
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Lazybum: The main things we got out of the last test was thexa fixed some crashing and there didn't seem much apperently wrong outside of the crashing
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Lazybum: but when there's only like 4 poeple testing you don't get very far with it
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Lazybum: We just seem to have so much trouble getting larger poeple needed for proper play tests, so I kinda pushed for just releasing it if it's not crashing
    Apr 28, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Lazybum: Let this just be a reminder that really do need testers, so please show up when you can so these things can be caught in advance
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Kidpaler: ^, granted I couldnt make t
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Xyaminou: "when there's only like 4 people you don't get far"
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Xyaminou: well all those fucking bug I reported I tested alone
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Xyaminou: so
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Xyaminou: just
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:28 PM - Xyaminou: pushing huge changes like that without proper testing and then refusing to revert.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:28 PM - Xyaminou: and i mean fuck me this is EXACTLY what i said like a year ago
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Xyaminou: for 2.7.0
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Kidpaler: You should have seen this before it was even fixed up
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why are you getting upst about "refusing to revert", nobody here can revert the patch
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:44 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: Was that there before? the hole?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 99% sure that yes it was, mostly because the building models weren't edited in any capacity
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:48 PM - Xyaminou: so you don't know, if you're saying that just because building models weren't edited, you don't know.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:48 PM - Xyaminou: need to find an old screenshot
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes, the "99% sure" bit kind of implies that i don't know, because bugs are funny like that
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:49 PM - Kidpaler: That'd be extremely odd for a bug to change the model of a building that hasnt been touched
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:50 PM - Xyaminou: "odd" is pretty much the name of the game when it comes to bugs...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i would apologise for not checking every single bit of the game before every patch to make sure there's no new bugs buuuuut....that'd be delusional, so no
    Apr 28, 2017 at 6:51 PM - Kidpaler: Especially with 4 testers
    Apr 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: alien swarm anyone?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:02 PM - Smithy: If you get some people msg me on steam
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:03 PM - Smithy: We didn't even finish a campaign last time
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:08 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Ranger: im triggered cause guided is renamed to tow
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what
    Apr 28, 2017 at 8:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guided is still guided, the "new" 3-slot version is just called TOW guided
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:32 PM - Ranger: tow=guided too
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:32 PM - Ranger: it's like saying VAC anti-cheat system
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:32 PM - Ranger: it's already in there
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:35 PM - Kidpaler: But I like the VAC Anti-cheat system because its a great system that prevents cheats
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGM-71_TOW
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: tube-launched, optically tracked, wireless, guided
    Apr 28, 2017 at 9:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no doubling up!
    Apr 28, 2017 at 10:17 PM - Ranger: the obvious
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: so yeah, I was right, duststorm differs from my client and server, which means someone at some point pushed a modified version of duststorm live and didn't set it to overwrite the old one... Well done!
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: does your version have the funky green gridlock appearing when you approach the edge of the map?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: grid*
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Xyaminou: that's been there for ages, ever since the re-texturing, I think.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Xyaminou: should be standard for all maps really.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i realised it must be there as i pressed enter
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Xyaminou: like why is not on mvalley? it's an official map, can't someone do it.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: let me check...
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay so it should be easy to add it since it's literally a textured brush
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: well I wouldn't mind if someone added it on as many maps as possible.
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: new wages
    Apr 28, 2017 at 11:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hooo boy, i might be able to afford an AFV before nukes come out
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:00 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to summarise xya's take: assists are 1 wage per point for both kinds, squad participation is 2 wages per point, everything else is 5 wages per point
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this will amount to somewhere between 3 and 4 times less wages than the stock 2.13.4 values
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:02 AM - Xyaminou: you're not supposed to afford anything on wages
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM - Xyaminou: you're just supposed to "get a tank before the newbies"
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM - Xyaminou: which is what you people wanted.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so in other words, afford a tank when a newbie can't
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM - Xyaminou: yes.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: anyway, 1 month of testing with those wages.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: but to be fair the majority of people were silent about wages and didn't seem to care that much about them being gone.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Xyaminou: now we'll see how it goes, if it allows you to afford a tank without breaking the economy.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:10 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i haven't played without wages nearly enough to form an opinion; and the time i did spend playing was spent on foot for a few reasons, having basically no resources among them
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:17 AM - Xyaminou: I mean you did play a PUG as a squadleader, which is more than most people do.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - [lodw]keef: man
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - PwnedYoAss: It's a Keef
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - [lodw]keef: you know how much hate I got for that green grid texture I made for the map edge when I first implemented it
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - [lodw]keef: everyone was like "it destroys the immersion!"
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Xyaminou: keef, you get hate for everything...
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Xyaminou: you have to ignore it, only way to keep your sanity on Empires.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - [lodw]keef: like having commanders drop giant structures right in front of you from thin air wasn't odd or anything
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - [lodw]keef: lol
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Xyaminou: also random keef, hello.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - [lodw]keef: allo
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Xyaminou: lol, I know right, so immersive!
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: also, I nerfed some of your maps, please provide some hate. :)
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - [lodw]keef: what's the latest scoop?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - PwnedYoAss: Well.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - PwnedYoAss: Good question.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: oh you know, just the usual, game being broken and whatnot.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: Latest update attempted network compensation.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: So you would finally have functional, you know, machine guns on tanks
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: But unfortunately shit is kinda broken
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - [lodw]keef: lol I meant with the map changes you were talking about
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: Oh.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: which by the way (don't hate me) Smithy has fixed.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - [lodw]keef: I'm sure theres a million empires gameplay changes since I last got up to date
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: Well, we destroyed all your maps.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: please send all your love to him for fixing other people's mistakes...
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - PwnedYoAss: Uhm, put Shandy's name on them
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:24 AM - [lodw]keef: lol
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:25 AM - Xyaminou: oh, the map changes, well palmbay is yours isn't it? I removed the uncappable flag that gives resources.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:25 AM - [lodw]keef: ya
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:25 AM - Xyaminou: and also, 1.5 base on resource nodes is useless, it defaults to 1.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:26 AM - [lodw]keef: that was a bandaid to up low pop res input
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Xyaminou: well, it didn't do anything
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:26 AM - [lodw]keef: since flags didn't scale the resource before
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:26 AM - [lodw]keef: like refinerys did with server population
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Xyaminou: oh you mean the flag
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM - [lodw]keef: so I basically just put a flat rate income into all the maps, so when there were only a couple people you could actually do something once in a while(like make a tank)
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM - [lodw]keef: well a lot of the maps
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM - [lodw]keef: not all of them
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Xyaminou: yeah understandable with the shitty resource scaling.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Xyaminou: but since I removed resource scaling altogether from my server
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Xyaminou: and controlled the refinery muliplier for each map
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Xyaminou: the flag was out of place.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - [lodw]keef: mmm, old school 2.12 empires
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - [lodw]keef: lol
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: it's all in this spreadsheet, if you're curious.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: well scaling was already a thing before 2.12 from what I remember
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: but from what I remember it just gave a flat out +1 to all refs?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: making larger multiplier refs such as x4 scale badly?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:30 AM - [lodw]keef: something like that, I just remember the change to the more recent system when it came about
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - [lodw]keef: and good god who resurrected frozen summit
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in other map news, lorddz is organising an empires shitmap night, there's a thread somewhere in the mapping section i think
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Xyaminou: anyway, I just hope you don't mind, I'm kinda doing my own thing on my server, balancing stuff as I can.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - [lodw]keef: map should go die in a hole somewhere, along with rainbow road
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Xyaminou: I don't think frozensummit ever got lost, so nobody.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - [lodw]keef: I left all the source material available so peeps could work with it
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah it's been around for a good while now
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Xyaminou: believe it or not people seem to like frozensummit
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:34 AM - Xyaminou: well I don't really do hammer, don't know about everyone else.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:34 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i do hammer and i decided having 10+ projects at once was a good idea
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:34 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i've had 10+ projects for a good while now
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:34 AM - Xyaminou: only changing a few balance points on some maps using entspy
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM - [lodw]keef: lol, I just wish manticore had come around
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM - [lodw]keef: was my favorite
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, are you holding the draft thing on saturday/sunday?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Xyaminou: I think once I get my hyperspeed internet I can start tweaking even more maps.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Xyaminou: sure, if people show up.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Xyaminou: probably going to happen every week-end from now on if I can get it going
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Xyaminou: since it results in balanced game.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: is it safe to pull people for a full squad then?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Xyaminou: just need people to step up to lead teams and pick.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Xyaminou: well we do need to test how squad drafting works, so sure.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Xyaminou: you know there's always the "just wait in spectator" and join later, I don't think mikleo has implemented the delayed auto-assign yet.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Xyaminou: you want to play together that badly.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Xyaminou: Also @keef, I hate manticore, sorry.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:38 AM - [lodw]keef: hurts my soul a little that manticore doesn't even make the list, needed to finish that map up at some point, needed to pick up modeling for it though due to brush count
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:38 AM - [lodw]keef: lol
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Xyaminou: well my server has a pretty restricted list of maps, you're hardly the only mapper that would hold a grudge against me. :p
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: iceberg_a4 when
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Xyaminou: hmmm, when half-life 3 comes out.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:40 AM - [lodw]keef: manticore hasn't been popular in general really
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the point is, i want to play with friends more than i want to play empires
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so if i can't play empires with friends, i'll go play something else with friends
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:40 AM - Xyaminou: I think you need more friends? Or is that a rude thing to say?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:41 AM - Xyaminou: does it really matter what squad you're in as long as people communicate and work together?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have enough empires "friends" to join a squad and have "friends" be in that squad
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and yes it does matter, when i play to win, relationships are secondary, but when i play for fun, it's a lot more important *who* you're playing with than *how* you're playing
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so even if in the end we play in a suboptimal way it doesn't matter as long as we have fun
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:44 AM - Xyaminou: implying you can't have fun with random strangers?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:44 AM - Xyaminou: that's pretty reductive of you.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course i can have fun with random strangers
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but that's not the point
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Wired_4fun: X christ dont call what youre doing with your server 'balancing empires'
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i want to spend time with friends
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not win, not even play empires, just spend time
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Xyaminou: Ah, wired, yes please, do tell.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Wired_4fun: I'd call it more
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Wired_4fun: Making empires harder for no reason other then autism
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Xyaminou: entertain me.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Wired_4fun: Entertain you?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Xyaminou: no other reason? are you sure being french isn't another reason?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Wired_4fun: lol no
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Wired_4fun: no that's just given
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Xyaminou: what about being conservationist?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and may i politely remind you what the common opinion on random strangers on the internet is - it's less than positive
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Xyaminou: or pretending to be classy?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Wired_4fun: you're protecting empires from change?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - [lodw]keef: anyone still play Havoc?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Xyaminou: I'm just saying Destroyer, it doesn't really matter to me who I'm playing with. No as much as it matters to you.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Wired_4fun: I got it on my server
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Wired_4fun: Dunno if anyone has voted for it
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Xyaminou: havoc which one is that again?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:48 AM - [lodw]keef: the upside down U shape, no commanders, prespawning tanks and artilary
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....ok? What's it matter to me though?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:48 AM - [lodw]keef: smaller map
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: nothing Destroyer, it doesn't matter.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: nothing matters.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: havoc has the problem of having upgraded turrets enabled and people not knowing how to deal with them
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: right this one, the vehicle designs are messed up on it
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: because of the Empires updates
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fantastic nihilism, now if you pardon me, i have things to care about
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: vehicles don't have the right stuff.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - [lodw]keef: ah
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:50 AM - [lodw]keef:
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: Destroyer, pretty sure Nihilism is that you don't see the value in life.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: in that way, I am not a nihilist, thank you.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Wired_4fun: Xia you're the biggest nihilist ive seen
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Xyaminou: Anyway, yeah I should probably include havoc on my server as I have only a few low pop maps
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Xyaminou: well then get out more Wired
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Wired_4fun: Is that suppose to mean something
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Wired_4fun: most nihilists are neets like you...
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Wired_4fun: so why would they get out?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Xyaminou: lol 'kay
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Xyaminou: I like your reasoning, most X are Y, you are X therefore you are Y.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Xyaminou: nice.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Wired_4fun: Yeah
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Wired_4fun: That's how statistics works
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: lol, to this day I still can't tell when you're serious and when you're not.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: I gotta say that's pretty impressive.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Wired_4fun: You'll never be able to tell
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Wired_4fun: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Xyaminou: I wouldn't have it any other way.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:55 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd say "nihilism" actually fits the "nothing matters" thing very well
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: and again I was just saying that because you asked "why does it matter?"
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Xyaminou: after I expressed my point of view to you...
    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Xyaminou: so unless you wanted me to go on a 20 page essai about why it should matter to you that I like to play with random people as much as I like to play with friends. I think you should refrain from calling me a nihilist.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: way i see it, you either said that nothing matters to me, which is obviously false, or nothing matters to you, which then would have to be the intended meaning
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but since you're saying something quite different now, i'll take the updated word instead
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:02 AM - Xyaminou: I dismissed your question by giving it a generic answer, I could also have said "why does anything matter?"
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Xyaminou: or "42" or any other meaningless answer, which are supposed to imply that your question does not merit an answer.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i hope i don't have to point out the astounding level of arrogance you've just displayed
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:07 AM - Xyaminou: arrogance is my middle name.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:07 AM - Xyaminou: (shit now I wish it was, that would be cool)
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fantastic, i'm glad you don't see a problem with this
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:09 AM - Xyaminou: I'm touched that you care about my state of mind.
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if only
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: only
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM - Xyaminou: wait, are you saying you wished you cared about my state of mind?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM - Xyaminou: subconscious desires?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:18 AM - Ranger: 42 sounds right
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:21 AM - flasche: but what is the question?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:24 AM - Xyaminou: how much is 21 times 2?
    Apr 29, 2017 at 1:32 AM - BigTeef: Jackie chan
     
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    Apr 29, 2017 11:31 AM - Ranger: SMIM
    Apr 29, 2017 11:55 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: trying to figure out if http://store.steampowered.com/app/481090/This_War_of_Mine__The_Little_Ones_DLC/ is worth
    Apr 29, 2017 11:55 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: anyone here got an opinion?
    Apr 29, 2017 12:18 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 29, 2017 1:13 PM - Spike: still no hotfix ?
    Apr 29, 2017 2:38 PM - Xyaminou: let the drama begin.
    Apr 29, 2017 2:52 PM - Xyaminou: by the way destroyer you need to rename your map to ass_
    Apr 29, 2017 2:52 PM - flasche: oh right i was going to complain about that
    Apr 29, 2017 2:52 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 29, 2017 2:52 PM - Xyaminou: finally some accurate labels for escort
    Apr 29, 2017 2:53 PM - flasche: its just as tho
    Apr 29, 2017 3:12 PM - flasche: SILK i need opinion on lava
    Apr 29, 2017 3:12 PM - flasche: NAO
    Apr 29, 2017 3:12 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 29, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: lava, it's hot!
    Apr 29, 2017 3:19 PM - Silk: X is right
    Apr 29, 2017 3:22 PM - flasche: lava so hawt right now
    Apr 29, 2017 3:36 PM - Spike: i take it no pug tonight due to no hotfix...
    Apr 29, 2017 3:36 PM - Spike: or revert
    Apr 29, 2017 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: Alien swarm anyone?
    Apr 29, 2017 4:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i ain't renaming shit
    Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: no? you're gonna be the only assault map that doesn't get renamed? blame the devs.
    Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which map do you even mean?
    Apr 29, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: nuclear
    Apr 29, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: new naming convention say it should be as_nuclear
    Apr 29, 2017 4:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i heard
    Apr 29, 2017 4:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but nah, i don't see any renaming happening anytime soon
    Apr 29, 2017 4:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i need to set my priorities straight, which is going pretty bad right now, and i don't think touching hammer is among them
    Apr 29, 2017 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so, things are going to stay the way they are for the foreseeable future
    Apr 29, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: ugh...
    Apr 29, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: so devs renamed the maps to con_ stuff
    Apr 29, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: well they didn't rename the minimaps...
    Apr 29, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: minimap files are still named emp_
    Apr 29, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: fucking inconsistencies
    Apr 29, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: seriously if you do something at least do it right.
    Apr 29, 2017 4:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just rename resource files amd leave everything else as-is for a clientside fix
    Apr 29, 2017 4:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so that resource files are called "con_<mapname>.txt"
    Apr 29, 2017 5:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or as_escort.txt
    Apr 29, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: no, the resource files are renamed, the minimap files aren't.
    Apr 29, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: and, by the way, glycenplains, a shitty map without minimap, is still included with the game, for some reason...
    Apr 29, 2017 5:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my minimap files work just fine, checked glycencity, urbanchaos, district
    Apr 29, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: I never said they didn't work, I said they're inconsistent.
    Apr 29, 2017 5:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh that's what you mean
    Apr 29, 2017 5:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm gonna give it a solid "meh", it doesn't really matter in any way
    Apr 29, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: yes, like the seismic name doesn't matter...
    Apr 29, 2017 5:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the affected group of people is even narrower, only server owners, mappers and developers even see those files, let alone use them in any way
    Apr 29, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: oh and more problems... mapcycle and maplist for the servers, it still has emp_ instead of con_
    Apr 29, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: so default server would basically not work with district and stuff...
    Apr 29, 2017 5:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: again, unimpactful, but this should be fixed
    Apr 29, 2017 5:10 PM - Xyaminou: unimpactful? it literally breaks the mapcycle for vanilla servers...
    Apr 29, 2017 5:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: those don't see much use
    Apr 29, 2017 5:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: however, occasionally they do; it needs fixing
    Apr 29, 2017 5:12 PM - Xyaminou: yeah, no let's just do everything half-arsed because it doesn't matter...
    Apr 29, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: like, a question I've been asking myself, do servers even need all the extra config files in the cfg folders, rifleman scout, listenserver etc... I'm pretty sure that's useless, why is it shipped with the server?
    Apr 29, 2017 7:02 PM - Señor_Awesome: http://i.imgur.com/AISNrta.gifv
    Apr 29, 2017 7:02 PM - Señor_Awesome: ^ What it's like to visit forums after a couple days
    Apr 29, 2017 7:05 PM - Spike: welcome to the shit storm
    Apr 29, 2017 7:06 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 29, 2017 7:25 PM - Xyaminou: Don't ruin LOTR!
    Apr 29, 2017 7:25 PM - Xyaminou: you fucking asshole.
    Apr 29, 2017 7:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: [​IMG]
    Apr 29, 2017 7:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://imgflip.com/i/1o4lsa
    Apr 29, 2017 7:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i tried but i'm too lazy
    Apr 29, 2017 7:32 PM - Spike: fuck sake if your gonna do it do it properly
    Apr 29, 2017 7:32 PM - Spike: fs
    Apr 29, 2017 7:35 PM - Spike: this is ruining lotr
    Apr 29, 2017 7:48 PM - McGyver: [​IMG]
    Apr 29, 2017 8:19 PM - Spike: XD
    Apr 29, 2017 11:34 PM - Ranger: I'm afraid I will soon indulge in modding Skyrim SS.
    Apr 30, 2017 12:35 AM - Señor_Awesome: this avatar is so over the top annoying
    Apr 30, 2017 12:35 AM - Señor_Awesome: wonderful
    Apr 30, 2017 12:43 AM - Xyaminou: omfg another avatar to block... yay...
    Apr 30, 2017 12:44 AM - Kidpaler: Soon you are going to have no one to talk to
    Apr 30, 2017 12:49 AM - Señor_Awesome: >:D
    Apr 30, 2017 12:53 AM - Kidpaler: Okay, I need feedback
    Apr 30, 2017 12:53 AM - Kidpaler: Or, I should say, Ideas
    Apr 30, 2017 1:46 AM - LordDz_2: Its a jpg
    Apr 30, 2017 1:46 AM - LordDz_2: I'm so confused
    Apr 30, 2017 1:46 AM - LordDz_2: My whole life
    Apr 30, 2017 1:46 AM - LordDz_2: A lie
    Apr 30, 2017 1:58 AM - BigTeef: Contact me if you want me to animate your avatar
    Apr 30, 2017 2:59 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I just read a news article that a dog in Denver, Colorado got high after eating some marijuana
    Apr 30, 2017 3:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'd would probably pay money just to see what that look like
    Apr 30, 2017 3:08 AM - LordDz_2: Someone has not heard of youtube
    Apr 30, 2017 3:21 AM - Ranger: youwhat?
    Apr 30, 2017 3:25 AM - Kidpaler: Lord, your avatar isn't moving enough. I think you should make it move around a bit more
    Apr 30, 2017 3:32 AM - Lawliet: cringe
    Apr 30, 2017 3:32 AM - Lawliet:
    Apr 30, 2017 3:45 AM - BigTeef: All these pms for animated avatars
    Apr 30, 2017 3:45 AM - BigTeef: oh baby
    Apr 30, 2017 3:47 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Aren't you just simply using a gif?
    Apr 30, 2017 3:49 AM - vipervicki: i used an online animator for mine
    Apr 30, 2017 3:50 AM - vipervicki: i had software that did cool animated stuff but wont work with windows 10 its quite afew years old
    Apr 30, 2017 3:51 AM - vipervicki: teef if you could make mine with the dogs tonguing sticking in and out id love that
    Apr 30, 2017 3:52 AM - BigTeef: I am using jasc animation shop for mine
    Apr 30, 2017 3:57 AM - vipervicki: k
    Apr 30, 2017 3:57 AM - Kidpaler: Yo teef, can you just whip up one for me? I don't care really what it is so long as it is appopriate
    Apr 30, 2017 4:06 AM - Kidpaler: I actually sent you the picture
    Apr 30, 2017 4:06 AM - BigTeef: https://u.nya.is/rgzlgz.gif
    Apr 30, 2017 4:09 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: You sure captured his personality with that you teef
    Apr 30, 2017 4:09 AM - Kidpaler: I sent him a better photo that I hope he gets :D
    Apr 30, 2017 4:12 AM - BigTeef: The picture is too big but I salvaged somthing from it that you can make a signature
    Apr 30, 2017 4:12 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: What the hell is "with that you teef"
    Apr 30, 2017 4:12 AM - BigTeef: I dunno you typed it
    Apr 30, 2017 4:12 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I spell like a fuckin lawnmower
    Apr 30, 2017 4:16 AM - Kidpaler: I cant wait to have some spazzy capitalism
    Apr 30, 2017 4:24 AM - BigTeef: https://u.nya.is/armhbr.gif
    Apr 30, 2017 4:25 AM - Kidpaler: Teef. I love you
    Apr 30, 2017 4:25 AM - BigTeef: upload that to imgur and put it in your signature
    Apr 30, 2017 4:25 AM - Kidpaler: I need an avatar though, any suggestions that are capitalism related?
    Apr 30, 2017 4:25 AM - Kidpaler: Also, that is signature worthy
    Apr 30, 2017 4:29 AM - BigTeef: Here is a perfect avatar
    Apr 30, 2017 4:29 AM - BigTeef: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7e/1e/17/7e1e17e7ada66b3d8256c61cd03c2416.jpg
    Apr 30, 2017 4:29 AM - Kidpaler: No.
    Apr 30, 2017 4:29 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Apr 30, 2017 4:29 AM - vipervicki: how about a dollar sign
    Apr 30, 2017 4:30 AM - BigTeef: https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/hitler jew.jpg
    Apr 30, 2017 4:36 AM - Kidpaler: Hmm let me find something
    Apr 30, 2017 4:48 AM - A-z-K: .
    Apr 30, 2017 5:01 AM - Ranger: I just realised that Itali is in Capitalism
    Apr 30, 2017 5:01 AM - Ranger: What if capitalism is Cap Italism = Being Italian Cap?
    Apr 30, 2017 5:02 AM - Ranger: I'm a capitalist. I enjoy Italian caps. I'm a great fan.
     
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    Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM - Neoony: its a fucking gif invasion xD
    Apr 30, 2017 at 1:57 PM - Ranger: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    Apr 30, 2017 at 2:52 PM - Xyaminou: by the way I turned on SourceTV auto-recording on my server, so here's some recordings.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 2:53 PM - Xyaminou: Unfortunately I haven't found a way to have them save in a different directory (directly in the fastDL) so I have to move them manually for now :(.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 2:56 PM - Xyaminou: oh by the way I looked at one and the first person views are rotated something like 180°.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:08 PM - Ranger: SOo many threads today
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not making threads, I'm making bug reports.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: not my fault they don't have a better issue/bug tracking system that those shitty forums.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: step 1 of developing a game, get a proper issue tracker...
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:10 PM - Paradox: step 2 get devs that arent like destroyer
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:11 PM - Smithy: There is a bug tracker but you have to sign up and be given reporter access I think
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:17 PM - Xyaminou: I mean a bug tracker that everyone has access to so it's not a mess...
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:17 PM - Xyaminou: public bug tracker, private doesn't count.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "public" and "not a mess" sound pretty contradictory
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Xyaminou: lol, no it's not.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: have you never seen github?
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Ranger: public toilets are evil
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: wtf ranger
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it will degenerate if left unmoderated is my point, and if these forums are anything to go by, moderation is not something we are capable of
    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:53 PM - Ranger: they dont moderate the toilets
    Apr 30, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 30, 2017 at 4:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that is assuming the bug tracker would get enough attention, and given the amount of reports these forums have seen over the course of years, it would probably be fine
    Apr 30, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: so the answer is no, you've never been on github.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:24 PM - vipervicki: i only see 2 servers in steam list for empires, anyone else see less than there is?
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Smithy: Only 2 updated so far
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Smithy: ESB is running 2.13.4
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes i have been on github, i openly admit that i'm terribly inexperienced with it, but i do use it
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have also seen plenty of public projects of all shapes and sizes, and moderation always exists
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pure anarchy will not work past a certain size
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Ranger: for example, the toilets
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:44 PM - vipervicki: whne was the last update out?
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM - vipervicki: oh I see ..today
    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:54 PM - A-z-K: Why cant I change myu Avatar
    Apr 30, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Ranger: AZK your current avatar could be a great animated avatar
    Apr 30, 2017 at 6:33 PM - A-z-K: I already have a great animated avatar to use, but it doesn't work
    Apr 30, 2017 at 6:34 PM - A-z-K: I can't upload it, the site just laughs at me.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM - McGyver: Here is scientific research that will peak your interest: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/23268743.2017.1304235
    Apr 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, I need ideas if anyone has any.
    Apr 30, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: I'm doing a small power station now in Echelon, anymore ideas for what to put where?
    Apr 30, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: I also have the center area mapped out and planned as well with a giant base structure
    Apr 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM - BigTeef: Azk you are supposed to save the file and then upload it not via link
    Apr 30, 2017 at 8:15 PM - A-z-K: I did that
    Apr 30, 2017 at 8:18 PM - BigTeef: Login to steam
    Apr 30, 2017 at 9:00 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: my Empires just uninstalled itself.... that can't be a good sign...
    Apr 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM - Avatarix: it's a sign
    Apr 30, 2017 at 9:31 PM - vipervicki: lol bluesky
    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Señor_Awesome: bluesky you have to tell me what malware removal tool you're using cause whatever it is it knows what's up
    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:54 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: lol so doest taht mean senor_awesome sent your the malware?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Vdragon: why did i even bother playing, vet cant be assed to have balanced matches, and newbies/noobs just trash the match because they suck too hard
    May 1, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Vdragon: had to fight for 5 minutes nonstop to get teh vets to not be all on the same team, then spent the match shouting at noobs to stop doing retarded things
    May 1, 2017 at 12:25 AM - Vdragon: then more noob join and start trolling
    May 1, 2017 at 12:32 AM - VulcanStorm: any idea how to prevent this vdragon?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:33 AM - VulcanStorm: i too am upset about the vets stacking...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:34 AM - Vdragon: well i'd say treat the cause not the symptom, but the causes are a bit funky there
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: some causes example:
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: many newbies/noob: it's a chore to play with them, so vet tend to stack a team due to that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: social links: nuff said
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - VulcanStorm: any more?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Señor_Awesome: the trick is, even if you were to have players not join based on how many noobs there were or who they knew
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Señor_Awesome: the difference in player experience is so vast that a couple player difference can mean the whole game
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Vdragon: that the two i could think off quickly VulcanStorm, not really in the mood to really search
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - VulcanStorm: ok
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Señor_Awesome: you've either spent a literal month+ of your life playing or a few hours
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - complete_: vets stack because they like getting more res
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - VulcanStorm: So this is something we as a community can do?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Vdragon: eh, people having played about 10-20 hours are often already good enough to not shit up the game completly
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - VulcanStorm: Its up to us players to stop stacking...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Señor_Awesome: personally at ~70 days of playing. And no they're often not good enough
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - complete_: give a higher base res rate and people might be able to handle being relegated to their base the entire game. i had a suggestion about this
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 10 hours to not be terrible is a large amount of time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Señor_Awesome: that too
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Vdragon: yea but the risk is neverending game and no incensitive to get ref points
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Señor_Awesome: still like when JGF used to say that you shouldn't be allowed in CV unless you had 300+ hours of game time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: limit refinery resource output
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Vdragon: yea, it's large, but it's the cost
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and restrict # of refineries to a researchable limit
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - complete_: 5 of my first hours were spent not knowing what seismic grenades do. once i realize they were resonators it all clicked
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and by resource output i mean refineries output resources at a set rate that gets lowered over time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - complete_: destroyer somehow wants even less res when the problem is being stuck with 1 res a second in your base
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you have no res you lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: ^^
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: exactly.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - Señor_Awesome: why can't you all be like me and just accept there's no hope
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: because hopelessness is no fun?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'm not saying set 1 res/s exactly, i'm saying rework income quite extensively
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - complete_: yes. its also not fun to have no res. so making the other team also have no res is no fun
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm not for reducing resource amounts exactly
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jsut as i am not for gutting wages a la X server
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - VulcanStorm: other games, have a strange way of resource income over time though?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm for reworking income
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm thinking starcraft; set amount of resources in the base that gets depleted after some amount of time, and you need toe xpand outwards to keep the economy going
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - VulcanStorm: Dawn of war has upgrades per resource building... and these buildings decay over time to a minimum...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - Señor_Awesome: supreme commander 2 has a system where the longer your extractors are alive the more they produce which is kind of neat and leads to a ramp up over game time of what you can do so long as you hold them
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - Señor_Awesome: don't think it would work well in empires tho
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but your refineries don't just outright stop working like in sc2, they keep providing a (greatly reduced) amount once they are "deplted" like in sc1
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - VulcanStorm: it would incentivise holding ground?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - VulcanStorm: if that refinery would level up over time.... you would want to keep it under control...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vulcanstorm, pretty much what i'm thinking, except the "upgrade" being the ability to have more refineries total
    May 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM - VulcanStorm: i don't think resources should reduce over time... since everything in empires gets more expensive over time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so, you get a separate research branch of "more refineries" that raises the limit by some amount
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: up to map maximum?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Señor_Awesome: I have no idea how resources even plays into the original discussion at all anyways
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: yay! we derailed the shoutbox!
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: same goes for starcraft. At some point, the game becomes about holding income locations instead of attacking the enemy
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: what about thirds?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you have no resources you lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: 1/3 of maps refineries by default.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it sucks to be stuck to your solitary base with newbies because you have no resources and are waiting to lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - complete_: i derailed it because it is a true fact that people stack because they love resources
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: increasing to 2/3 with 1 research, and max refineries on map on a second research
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this discussion is about increasing the slippery slope of not holding enough ground
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: it started off as "how to stop stax"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vulcanstorm, i was thinking numerical values; something like 2-4 refineries at first, then you have a number of researches that increase that amount by a set amount of 2-3
    May 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM - complete_: you dont have to rework everything. you just have to make it so the losing team can at least get a tank out once in a while
    May 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's called wages
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: wages does not serve that purpose and its hilarious that you think that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Señor_Awesome: like how Destroyer just decided a topic for this discussion that wasn't the original one
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i still think that increasing the refinery resource tick interval from 1 second to 5~ would go a long way to helping balance that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: wages are so the vets can bypass waiting for a tank
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you get wages that act as resources for you; the more you play, the faster you can get a tank out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: nothing to do with keeping a losing team in the game
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: once there's enough players, you can get a tank out every once in a while even with a trickle of resources coming in
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ergo, wages help get tanks out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and if you aren't gaining any points, you're probably heading in the general direction of losing
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Winning team usually has higher points per minute, but winning team usually has the number of tanks "saturated" as well.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - complete_: love how you just ignored my whole point
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Sgt.Security: It does help the losing team pumping out tanks, but it's helping the other side as well (if they lsoe their tanks)
    May 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: better players can get a tank out first assuming even starts
    May 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if better players got their tanks out, they have less wages than you, and eventually we reach a poitn where it's your turn to get that tank out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the starting point of this talk was about having a mechanic that lets the losing team get a tank out every once in a while
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i omitted the impact on the winning team here
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Sgt.Security: Wait, wasn't there a feature that increases the res gain for the team that has less ref?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: another mechanic that lets the losing team do that is recycling carcasses
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Jesus Christ, I'm coughing more than Churchill chain smoking cigars
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Sgt.Security: I lsot track, but I think I heard somethign about this like years ago.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: diminishing returns for the WINNING team to get less resources from more refineries
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: refinery diminishing return is retarded and horrible.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hey be glad you're coughing, my grandma had bronchitis without coughing for two weeks and nobody diagnosed it until wednesday
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Xyaminou: can't believe you people are starting the "let's help the losing team bullshit again"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: agree with X; i don't even think they worked as intended, but i'm not sure on that point
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i started the exact opposite :P might be lost to time already though
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Sgt.Security: how would you diagnose tinnitus on just one side of my ears, at my age?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: probably
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i would diagnose it by checking what tinnitus means in polish, then telling you i have yet to have laryngology, then looking for an answer anyways; hold on
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: if you don't have map superiority you can still come back by pressure shift and generally smarter plays than the enemy team.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: on any open map.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - VulcanStorm: constant noise in one of your ears
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: chokepoint don't count, it's not Empires.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - VulcanStorm: that's tinnitus
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: chokepoints aren't empires, sure dude
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: security, did you undergo any infections lately
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: "tinnitus you cruel mistress!"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Sgt.Security: I know for sure I'll see a doctor if it keeps worsening (it already does)
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - Sgt.Security: Not that I know of.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: do you take any drugs regularly?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - Sgt.Security: This I can be sure, nope.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...do you clean your ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - Sgt.Security: Did, in fact I do that so often that I might have hurt it.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - Xyaminou: I call bullshit, no way you're playing Empires and not taking drugs regularly!
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you exposed to loud noises, like explosions, close-ups of plane takeoffs, super loud music?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Xyaminou: Empires has tons of "loud noises"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Xyaminou: a.k.a. players
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Sgt.Security: I have my headset on like all time, as long as I am using a computer, but isn't that suppose to ruin both of my ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: headsets are mostly fine, it's the in-ear stuff that's really problematic; and still, how loud are the things you are listening to?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: loud to the point of dwarfing everything from the outside, or can you still hear the world around you?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM - Xyaminou: you're assuming his headset doesn't do that naturally
    May 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that is the followup question if he says yes
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Sgt.Security: I can still hear the world around me but my headset is "open"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Xyaminou: such doctoring, I'm impressed.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Sgt.Security: AKA you can hear my music if you are in the same room with me.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Xyaminou: god damn pleb, get a real headset.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: others hearing music can be down to sound bleeding out of the headset, or it can be ridiculously loud music
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but if you say you can hear people around you, then it's not that loud
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you experiencing a lot of stress or having bouts of depression?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:05 AM - Xyaminou: god damnit Security why can't you just tell us the exact dB of the sounds you're hearing. Are you a machine or not?!
    May 1, 2017 at 1:05 AM - Sgt.Security: Actually you should probably also know that i can feel something in my head, not just a simple tinnitus
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Sgt.Security: Closer to "that" side of my ears.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: describe what "feeling something" means pls
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a lump? A pressure? can you feel it through touch?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Xyaminou: how much from 1 to obi-wan kenobi would you rate the pain?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:07 AM - Sgt.Security: If you ask me, something "pressing" my head from the inside.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:07 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you palpate it from the outside or is it just "in there"?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: I think it's just in there.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Not that I was trained to palpate it anyway, but I think it's in there.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay, when did you first notice the symptoms?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Just last night, I am losing my shit because it's seemingly "louder" this morning.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: have you had something like this before?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - Sgt.Security: Nope.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: has anyone in your family had any ear-related problems?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Xyaminou: did your parents touch you in bad places when you were young?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Sgt.Security: Not really, but my parents aren't fans of seeing doctor when there's "symptom".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Sgt.Security: Come on Xya, they did it from time to time.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you allergic to something? Were you exposed to any allergens lately?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - Xyaminou: point on that anatomically incorrect doll where your parents touched you.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: like pollens or cleaning chemicals?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Sgt.Security: I am allergic to shrimps and I usually avoid them, and I did "unwantedly" take them, but I don't think I've ever had this tinnitus and something pressing my head symptoms.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Xyaminou: did someone put shrimps in your ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:14 AM - VulcanStorm: Could i suggest this goes to a private discussion between you two?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:15 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay it kind of sounds like an infection to me, but i can't give you a physical and my knowledge in this area is meh (for the next month)
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my recommendation is, monitor this tinnitus today and tomorrow, and if it and that "feeling" don't go away or get worse, go to a professional at your place
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or if other symptoms appear
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah I don't know why they're not using PMs lol apparently they don't mind me just trolling.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - VulcanStorm: Back on topic? How to stop stax?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Xyaminou: oh not that again
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Sgt.Security: Vulcan I don't really care, there's no topic about shoutbox, how about you create a thread about yuor "topic"?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: "how to make life fair"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: step 1: kill everyone
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: there, everyone's the same, fair.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ear infections should be treated and they're fairly simple to treat so there's that
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Sgt.Security: Yeah, I know for sure it's pretty unlikely to be tumor or something at my age.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Sgt.Security: So I am not like, panicking or some, but it's just kinda annoying.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but itn eeds to be carefully diagnosed by someone with the resources
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - Sgt.Security: That is for sure.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah i don't really suspect a tumor, it's just in the back of my mind, most likely something acute
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - Kidpaler: You have a buildup of Earwax Security? Or not really?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: The last time I go to a doctor about my ears, like 6 months ago, he said it's "surprisingly clean".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: So I'd say no, I clean my ears often.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: given the speed at which symptoms developed....few tumors are that fast, let alone neurological ones
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: And no, not about tinnitus, it's "I think something went into my ears".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: That I went to see a doctor.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:23 AM - Sgt.Security: I am gonna go and take a rest after my breakfast and see how it goes.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:24 AM - Sgt.Security: Like, 3~4 hours of sleep and I'd force myself to sleep again, good thing I am free up today.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just go have your usual day but periodically think about the ear
    May 1, 2017 at 1:30 AM - Sgt.Security: Yep but I found "sleep for a while" a really useful way to know if something's good or bad, like a random headache or dizziness.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:30 AM - Sgt.Security: "Oh it's just I didn't notice my dehydration, fuck."
    May 1, 2017 at 2:20 AM - BigTeef: Is it so hard for people to just fucking drink water on a regular basis.
    May 1, 2017 at 2:20 AM - BigTeef: Your not a starving kid in africa, drink your damn water.
    May 1, 2017 at 2:49 AM - Kidpaler: But... sometimes... the water is just SO far away
    May 1, 2017 at 3:02 AM - vipervicki: Ive lived with tinnitus since In 13 due to an inner ear disease, tnnitus is actually caused by the brain overcomepensating for damaged hair cells in the inner ear..the pressure might be an ear infection inner or middles. You should go to a dr becasue you may be damaging your heaing if its not taken care off
    May 1, 2017 at 3:03 AM - vipervicki: alos the pressure and tinnitus can be due to silent migrianes..do you have any dizziness or vertigo?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 AM - Ranger: MY BEST FRIEND HAD EAR INFECTION AND THEN DIED.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 AM - Ranger: No. But he has lower hearing in his left ear now
    May 1, 2017 at 4:35 AM - Ranger: But it's probably the aimbot microchip in your brain. You should probably restart your brain and see if the bug remains.
     
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    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Señor_Awesome: bluesky you have to tell me what malware removal tool you're using cause whatever it is it knows what's up
    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:54 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: lol so doest taht mean senor_awesome sent your the malware?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Vdragon: why did i even bother playing, vet cant be assed to have balanced matches, and newbies/noobs just trash the match because they suck too hard
    May 1, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Vdragon: had to fight for 5 minutes nonstop to get teh vets to not be all on the same team, then spent the match shouting at noobs to stop doing retarded things
    May 1, 2017 at 12:25 AM - Vdragon: then more noob join and start trolling
    May 1, 2017 at 12:32 AM - VulcanStorm: any idea how to prevent this vdragon?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:33 AM - VulcanStorm: i too am upset about the vets stacking...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:34 AM - Vdragon: well i'd say treat the cause not the symptom, but the causes are a bit funky there
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: some causes example:
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: many newbies/noob: it's a chore to play with them, so vet tend to stack a team due to that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM - Vdragon: social links: nuff said
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - VulcanStorm: any more?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Señor_Awesome: the trick is, even if you were to have players not join based on how many noobs there were or who they knew
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Señor_Awesome: the difference in player experience is so vast that a couple player difference can mean the whole game
    May 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Vdragon: that the two i could think off quickly VulcanStorm, not really in the mood to really search
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - VulcanStorm: ok
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Señor_Awesome: you've either spent a literal month+ of your life playing or a few hours
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - complete_: vets stack because they like getting more res
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - VulcanStorm: So this is something we as a community can do?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Vdragon: eh, people having played about 10-20 hours are often already good enough to not shit up the game completly
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - VulcanStorm: Its up to us players to stop stacking...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Señor_Awesome: personally at ~70 days of playing. And no they're often not good enough
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - complete_: give a higher base res rate and people might be able to handle being relegated to their base the entire game. i had a suggestion about this
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 10 hours to not be terrible is a large amount of time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Señor_Awesome: that too
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Vdragon: yea but the risk is neverending game and no incensitive to get ref points
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Señor_Awesome: still like when JGF used to say that you shouldn't be allowed in CV unless you had 300+ hours of game time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: limit refinery resource output
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Vdragon: yea, it's large, but it's the cost
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and restrict # of refineries to a researchable limit
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - complete_: 5 of my first hours were spent not knowing what seismic grenades do. once i realize they were resonators it all clicked
    May 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and by resource output i mean refineries output resources at a set rate that gets lowered over time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - complete_: destroyer somehow wants even less res when the problem is being stuck with 1 res a second in your base
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you have no res you lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: ^^
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: exactly.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - Señor_Awesome: why can't you all be like me and just accept there's no hope
    May 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM - VulcanStorm: because hopelessness is no fun?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'm not saying set 1 res/s exactly, i'm saying rework income quite extensively
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - complete_: yes. its also not fun to have no res. so making the other team also have no res is no fun
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm not for reducing resource amounts exactly
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jsut as i am not for gutting wages a la X server
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - VulcanStorm: other games, have a strange way of resource income over time though?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm for reworking income
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm thinking starcraft; set amount of resources in the base that gets depleted after some amount of time, and you need toe xpand outwards to keep the economy going
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - VulcanStorm: Dawn of war has upgrades per resource building... and these buildings decay over time to a minimum...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM - Señor_Awesome: supreme commander 2 has a system where the longer your extractors are alive the more they produce which is kind of neat and leads to a ramp up over game time of what you can do so long as you hold them
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - Señor_Awesome: don't think it would work well in empires tho
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but your refineries don't just outright stop working like in sc2, they keep providing a (greatly reduced) amount once they are "deplted" like in sc1
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - VulcanStorm: it would incentivise holding ground?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - VulcanStorm: if that refinery would level up over time.... you would want to keep it under control...
    May 1, 2017 at 12:43 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vulcanstorm, pretty much what i'm thinking, except the "upgrade" being the ability to have more refineries total
    May 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM - VulcanStorm: i don't think resources should reduce over time... since everything in empires gets more expensive over time
    May 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so, you get a separate research branch of "more refineries" that raises the limit by some amount
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: up to map maximum?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Señor_Awesome: I have no idea how resources even plays into the original discussion at all anyways
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: yay! we derailed the shoutbox!
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: same goes for starcraft. At some point, the game becomes about holding income locations instead of attacking the enemy
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - VulcanStorm: what about thirds?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you have no resources you lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: 1/3 of maps refineries by default.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it sucks to be stuck to your solitary base with newbies because you have no resources and are waiting to lose
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - complete_: i derailed it because it is a true fact that people stack because they love resources
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: increasing to 2/3 with 1 research, and max refineries on map on a second research
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this discussion is about increasing the slippery slope of not holding enough ground
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - VulcanStorm: it started off as "how to stop stax"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vulcanstorm, i was thinking numerical values; something like 2-4 refineries at first, then you have a number of researches that increase that amount by a set amount of 2-3
    May 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM - complete_: you dont have to rework everything. you just have to make it so the losing team can at least get a tank out once in a while
    May 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's called wages
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: wages does not serve that purpose and its hilarious that you think that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Señor_Awesome: like how Destroyer just decided a topic for this discussion that wasn't the original one
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i still think that increasing the refinery resource tick interval from 1 second to 5~ would go a long way to helping balance that
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: wages are so the vets can bypass waiting for a tank
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you get wages that act as resources for you; the more you play, the faster you can get a tank out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM - complete_: nothing to do with keeping a losing team in the game
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: once there's enough players, you can get a tank out every once in a while even with a trickle of resources coming in
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ergo, wages help get tanks out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and if you aren't gaining any points, you're probably heading in the general direction of losing
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Sgt.Security: Winning team usually has higher points per minute, but winning team usually has the number of tanks "saturated" as well.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - complete_: love how you just ignored my whole point
    May 1, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Sgt.Security: It does help the losing team pumping out tanks, but it's helping the other side as well (if they lsoe their tanks)
    May 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: better players can get a tank out first assuming even starts
    May 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if better players got their tanks out, they have less wages than you, and eventually we reach a poitn where it's your turn to get that tank out
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the starting point of this talk was about having a mechanic that lets the losing team get a tank out every once in a while
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i omitted the impact on the winning team here
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Sgt.Security: Wait, wasn't there a feature that increases the res gain for the team that has less ref?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: another mechanic that lets the losing team do that is recycling carcasses
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Jesus Christ, I'm coughing more than Churchill chain smoking cigars
    May 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM - Sgt.Security: I lsot track, but I think I heard somethign about this like years ago.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: diminishing returns for the WINNING team to get less resources from more refineries
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: refinery diminishing return is retarded and horrible.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hey be glad you're coughing, my grandma had bronchitis without coughing for two weeks and nobody diagnosed it until wednesday
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Xyaminou: can't believe you people are starting the "let's help the losing team bullshit again"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: agree with X; i don't even think they worked as intended, but i'm not sure on that point
    May 1, 2017 at 12:54 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i started the exact opposite :P might be lost to time already though
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Sgt.Security: how would you diagnose tinnitus on just one side of my ears, at my age?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: probably
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i would diagnose it by checking what tinnitus means in polish, then telling you i have yet to have laryngology, then looking for an answer anyways; hold on
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: if you don't have map superiority you can still come back by pressure shift and generally smarter plays than the enemy team.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Xyaminou: on any open map.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - VulcanStorm: constant noise in one of your ears
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: chokepoint don't count, it's not Empires.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - VulcanStorm: that's tinnitus
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: chokepoints aren't empires, sure dude
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: security, did you undergo any infections lately
    May 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: "tinnitus you cruel mistress!"
    May 1, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Sgt.Security: I know for sure I'll see a doctor if it keeps worsening (it already does)
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - Sgt.Security: Not that I know of.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: do you take any drugs regularly?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:58 AM - Sgt.Security: This I can be sure, nope.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...do you clean your ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - Sgt.Security: Did, in fact I do that so often that I might have hurt it.
    May 1, 2017 at 12:59 AM - Xyaminou: I call bullshit, no way you're playing Empires and not taking drugs regularly!
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you exposed to loud noises, like explosions, close-ups of plane takeoffs, super loud music?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Xyaminou: Empires has tons of "loud noises"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Xyaminou: a.k.a. players
    May 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Sgt.Security: I have my headset on like all time, as long as I am using a computer, but isn't that suppose to ruin both of my ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: headsets are mostly fine, it's the in-ear stuff that's really problematic; and still, how loud are the things you are listening to?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: loud to the point of dwarfing everything from the outside, or can you still hear the world around you?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM - Xyaminou: you're assuming his headset doesn't do that naturally
    May 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that is the followup question if he says yes
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Sgt.Security: I can still hear the world around me but my headset is "open"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Xyaminou: such doctoring, I'm impressed.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Sgt.Security: AKA you can hear my music if you are in the same room with me.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM - Xyaminou: god damn pleb, get a real headset.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: others hearing music can be down to sound bleeding out of the headset, or it can be ridiculously loud music
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but if you say you can hear people around you, then it's not that loud
    May 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you experiencing a lot of stress or having bouts of depression?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:05 AM - Xyaminou: god damnit Security why can't you just tell us the exact dB of the sounds you're hearing. Are you a machine or not?!
    May 1, 2017 at 1:05 AM - Sgt.Security: Actually you should probably also know that i can feel something in my head, not just a simple tinnitus
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Sgt.Security: Closer to "that" side of my ears.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: describe what "feeling something" means pls
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a lump? A pressure? can you feel it through touch?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Xyaminou: how much from 1 to obi-wan kenobi would you rate the pain?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:07 AM - Sgt.Security: If you ask me, something "pressing" my head from the inside.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:07 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you palpate it from the outside or is it just "in there"?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: I think it's just in there.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Not that I was trained to palpate it anyway, but I think it's in there.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay, when did you first notice the symptoms?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Just last night, I am losing my shit because it's seemingly "louder" this morning.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: have you had something like this before?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - Sgt.Security: Nope.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: has anyone in your family had any ear-related problems?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Xyaminou: did your parents touch you in bad places when you were young?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Sgt.Security: Not really, but my parents aren't fans of seeing doctor when there's "symptom".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Sgt.Security: Come on Xya, they did it from time to time.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you allergic to something? Were you exposed to any allergens lately?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - Xyaminou: point on that anatomically incorrect doll where your parents touched you.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: like pollens or cleaning chemicals?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Sgt.Security: I am allergic to shrimps and I usually avoid them, and I did "unwantedly" take them, but I don't think I've ever had this tinnitus and something pressing my head symptoms.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Xyaminou: did someone put shrimps in your ears?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:14 AM - VulcanStorm: Could i suggest this goes to a private discussion between you two?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:15 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay it kind of sounds like an infection to me, but i can't give you a physical and my knowledge in this area is meh (for the next month)
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my recommendation is, monitor this tinnitus today and tomorrow, and if it and that "feeling" don't go away or get worse, go to a professional at your place
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or if other symptoms appear
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah I don't know why they're not using PMs lol apparently they don't mind me just trolling.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - VulcanStorm: Back on topic? How to stop stax?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Xyaminou: oh not that again
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM - Sgt.Security: Vulcan I don't really care, there's no topic about shoutbox, how about you create a thread about yuor "topic"?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: "how to make life fair"
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: step 1: kill everyone
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Xyaminou: there, everyone's the same, fair.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ear infections should be treated and they're fairly simple to treat so there's that
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Sgt.Security: Yeah, I know for sure it's pretty unlikely to be tumor or something at my age.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - Sgt.Security: So I am not like, panicking or some, but it's just kinda annoying.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but itn eeds to be carefully diagnosed by someone with the resources
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - Sgt.Security: That is for sure.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah i don't really suspect a tumor, it's just in the back of my mind, most likely something acute
    May 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM - Kidpaler: You have a buildup of Earwax Security? Or not really?
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: The last time I go to a doctor about my ears, like 6 months ago, he said it's "surprisingly clean".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: So I'd say no, I clean my ears often.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: given the speed at which symptoms developed....few tumors are that fast, let alone neurological ones
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: And no, not about tinnitus, it's "I think something went into my ears".
    May 1, 2017 at 1:19 AM - Sgt.Security: That I went to see a doctor.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:23 AM - Sgt.Security: I am gonna go and take a rest after my breakfast and see how it goes.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:24 AM - Sgt.Security: Like, 3~4 hours of sleep and I'd force myself to sleep again, good thing I am free up today.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just go have your usual day but periodically think about the ear
    May 1, 2017 at 1:30 AM - Sgt.Security: Yep but I found "sleep for a while" a really useful way to know if something's good or bad, like a random headache or dizziness.
    May 1, 2017 at 1:30 AM - Sgt.Security: "Oh it's just I didn't notice my dehydration, fuck."
    May 1, 2017 at 2:20 AM - BigTeef: Is it so hard for people to just fucking drink water on a regular basis.
    May 1, 2017 at 2:20 AM - BigTeef: Your not a starving kid in africa, drink your damn water.
    May 1, 2017 at 2:49 AM - Kidpaler: But... sometimes... the water is just SO far away
    May 1, 2017 at 3:02 AM - vipervicki: Ive lived with tinnitus since In 13 due to an inner ear disease, tnnitus is actually caused by the brain overcomepensating for damaged hair cells in the inner ear..the pressure might be an ear infection inner or middles. You should go to a dr becasue you may be damaging your heaing if its not taken care off
    May 1, 2017 at 3:03 AM - vipervicki: alos the pressure and tinnitus can be due to silent migrianes..do you have any dizziness or vertigo?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 AM - Ranger: MY BEST FRIEND HAD EAR INFECTION AND THEN DIED.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 AM - Ranger: No. But he has lower hearing in his left ear now
    May 1, 2017 at 4:35 AM - Ranger: But it's probably the aimbot microchip in your brain. You should probably restart your brain and see if the bug remains.
    May 1, 2017 at 5:44 AM - Sgt.Security: Not really but now that I am reminded, it does feel like inner infection.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Paradox: online diagnoses by "professional" health workers the future of empires forums
    May 1, 2017 at 10:50 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm no pro but i'm happy to help, my mom had an inner ear infection and it impacted her hearing like ranger's friend's
    May 1, 2017 at 10:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but if caught early, it can be cured fully, so as i said, if it gets worse, go get checked by a professional
    May 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM - McGyver: ear cancer, caused by years of playing Empires
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 PM - CRITAWAKETS: i have an ear infection as we speak
    May 1, 2017 at 1:16 PM - CRITAWAKETS: aka: the common cold spread to my ear and now it itches
    May 1, 2017 at 1:34 PM - LordDz_2: Eeeeew!
    May 1, 2017 at 3:20 PM - vipervicki: is the tinnitus low pitched or high pitched? any whooshing sounds or hum souns like machinery?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:21 PM - vipervicki: in etierh case when there is hearing loss you need to go to a dr asap so it doesnt become permenent
    May 1, 2017 at 3:21 PM - vipervicki: either
    May 1, 2017 at 3:22 PM - vipervicki: they usally prescribe prednisone to get hearing back
    May 1, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: Yes, please, more internet doctors wannabe, instead of going to a real doctor. Just describe your symptoms to random people on the internet, that always works great.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: Have you people never watched House or something?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:25 PM - vipervicki: i host an inner ear disease forum and been delaing with it for most of my life
    May 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM - vipervicki: goin g to a dr is not random advice its what anyone shud do in his case
    May 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: oh well then, that makes you a professional, congratulations are in order.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM - vipervicki: makes u ignorant if u think telling him to see a dr is ill advice
    May 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: lol, do you even speak english? I mean real english, not american.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:27 PM - vipervicki: which is already an established fact that your ignorant
    May 1, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: or do you not understand sarcasm? maybe that's it, I hear americans don't understand sarcasm.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: they need people to point out when they use sarcasm.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:28 PM - vipervicki: your rep for sarcasm is well knows
    May 1, 2017 at 3:28 PM - vipervicki: at least Im not frnch thankk God
    May 1, 2017 at 3:28 PM - vipervicki: french
    May 1, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: and yet you still don't understand it, impressive.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:29 PM - vipervicki: now cralw bakc from where u came from
    May 1, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Xyaminou: good one.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Xyaminou: nice come back Vicki, show who's boss!
    May 1, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: maybe even a little bit of caps in there just to make it even more impressive.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:39 PM - A-z-K: Xya like a fisherman who gets angry at fish for biting the hook.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:42 PM - Xyaminou: Implying you can deduce my mood by reading the shoutbox?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm hardly a wannabe in case you weren't aware
    May 1, 2017 at 3:42 PM - A-z-K: Xya I know your mood
    May 1, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not actually Destroyer, since there is no proof of the contrary.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: Maybe you're telling the truth, maybe not. Either way asking people for medical opinions on the internet is stupid at best.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:44 PM - A-z-K: Like, a little fluffy ball of perpetrual distain
    May 1, 2017 at 3:44 PM - A-z-K: I love it
    May 1, 2017 at 3:44 PM - Xyaminou: what's my mood then?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:45 PM - A-z-K: 3 parts disapointment, 2 parts sea of fury
    May 1, 2017 at 3:45 PM - A-z-K: 1 part christmas special chart #1
    May 1, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: disappointment would imply I expected anything in the first place.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Paradox: I Can tell u I'm a professional politician from posting on an internet forum politics thread
    May 1, 2017 at 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: exactly
    May 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM - A-z-K: Exactly. Well done
    May 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM - A-z-K: Lets never tlak abotu anything ever again
    May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Xyaminou: actually the lesson there was, "let's not pretend anyone is telling the truth, ever".
    May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM - A-z-K: What happens if a career politician does post about politics on an internet forum though? Do they stop being a politician, do they cease to exist, or does vacuum decay destroy the entire universe at the speed of light?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Xyaminou: or that people know what they're talking about
    May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Xyaminou: at the speed of light?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: well if it starts from the "edge" of the known universe we got plenty of time...
    May 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: for all we know it's already happening.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:52 PM - A-z-K: Definitely a glass half empty kinda gal
    May 1, 2017 at 3:52 PM - Xyaminou: more like a glass will be empty sooner or later anyway so why bother?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:53 PM - A-z-K: Listen just becuase you post on an internet forum doesnt mean you are a physicists
    May 1, 2017 at 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: EXACTLY!
    May 1, 2017 at 3:53 PM - A-z-K: /close thread. NEXT
    May 1, 2017 at 3:53 PM - A-z-K: I'm interested how many topics of conversation we can apply this to
    May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i find it extremely harmful that after all this time you think i'd still lie
    May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s20uq8ugb9yamzv/WP_20170501_16_48_12_Rich.jpg?dl=0
    May 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Xyaminou: I don't think you'd lie, I just know that you can.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM - A-z-K: the reasoning may be kind of cyclical though - I mean if you automatically assume that everyone is either always lying or always wrong... then is that not just the same reasoning as assuming someone is always correct and helpful
    May 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM - A-z-K: Its the old gatekeeper riddle
    May 1, 2017 at 3:56 PM - A-z-K: one twin always lies, one twin always tells the truth...
    May 1, 2017 at 3:56 PM - A-z-K: The secret isn't the answer, it is the question.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: not really
    May 1, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: punch one of the twins
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: "did I just punch you?"
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: problem solved
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - A-z-K: You only get 1 questions
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: show them something that's red
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: "is that red"
    May 1, 2017 at 3:57 PM - A-z-K: The aim isnt to establish which twin si lying
    May 1, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Xyaminou: assuming they can only say yes/no and not some bullshit philosophical answer
    May 1, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Xyaminou: isn't it?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:58 PM - A-z-K: Stop going for cheap shots
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - A-z-K: These are stilly answers
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: well then what's the aim?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Paradox: the answer is, what would the other guy say
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Paradox: and then do the opposite
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - A-z-K: Yes that is the correct answer
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Paradox: anyway, whats destroyer trying to proof here with showing some random card
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Paradox: that hes an internet politician?
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: that's stupidly over-complicated Paradox, my way is much better.
    May 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM - A-z-K: However my point isnt the riddle
    May 1, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: Yep, definitely a politician.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:00 PM - A-z-K: My point is the cyclical nature of Xya's reasoning not being any better than that which is ridicules
    May 1, 2017 at 4:00 PM - vipervicki: only this community can turn people trying to help someone into a nasty insulting conversation
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Xyaminou: You're assuming I actually am trying to be useful.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - A-z-K: I dont think anyome is assyuming that X
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - vipervicki: no one would ever assume that you are the antithesis of helpful
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Xyaminou: good
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: all i have to say, show some fucking respect, you prick
    May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Xyaminou: why?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - vipervicki: he cant destroyer he is too much of an unhappy person
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - A-z-K: Fucking Nihilists dude
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - A-z-K: [​IMG]
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Xyaminou: implying unhappy people can't show respect, which makes no sense at all. keep trying
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not a fucking nihilist read the fucking dictionnary.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM - vipervicki: you are too filled with anger it follows
    May 1, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: lol, sure I am.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:03 PM - A-z-K: lol l"Keep trying", Swooosh, wraps cape, flicks hair, flies into the night with the force of a valkyrie
    May 1, 2017 at 4:03 PM - A-z-K: X is my super hero
    May 1, 2017 at 4:03 PM - vipervicki: my condolences AZK
    May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM - vipervicki: :)
    May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: I'll go for regular hero a-z-k, no need for the extra.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM - A-z-K: I dunno, your powers are not of this earth
    May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: anything to make you laugh.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM - vipervicki: he turned into a bat first?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:06 PM - A-z-K: No, he turned into christopher walken dressed as a vampire
    May 1, 2017 at 4:06 PM - vipervicki: thexa any idea when 2.14 is being released?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: lol, 2.14.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:06 PM - vipervicki: lol azk how was your holiday?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: 2.13 didn't break the game enough for you? you want more?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: oh, I forget, you don't play the game.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - vipervicki: im looking forward to the code change in .14
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - A-z-K: Pretty good thanks Vicki!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: forgot I was on Empires forums for a moment.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - A-z-K: HAHAAAA
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - vipervicki: good azk im glad
    May 1, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: and how's the weather today? good?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: good!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - A-z-K: X, admit it, you can't get enough.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - A-z-K: Naa mna, yesterday wa sbetter
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: OH NO, I'm so sorry to hear that.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: I may just cry.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - A-z-K: It's not cold today but there are intermittent showers
    May 1, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: and how's the wife?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM - A-z-K: Yeah great great
    May 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM - A-z-K: well you know, as best as can be - given the weather
    May 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Xyaminou: good.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM - vipervicki: lol azk
    May 1, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Xyaminou: Oh, does it make her cry too? I can so relate to that, you know, totally!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: so glad we could talk, let's do this more often!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:11 PM - vipervicki: mr x finds any conversation that doesnt revolve around empires..useless..so sad
    May 1, 2017 at 4:11 PM - A-z-K: Mate you cant talk
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: Im pretty sure xya is just bored and wasting your time atm
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: implying I don't find conversations about Empires too.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - A-z-K: I know
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: i never understood y u guys try to argue with him
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: lol finally someone who gets it, thanks paradox.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - vipervicki: yeah he needs to get a better hobby
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: no point what so ever
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - A-z-K: Stop answering everything with "implying...."
    May 1, 2017 at 4:12 PM - vipervicki: hes bored too often
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Thexa4: @vicky, around the 25th of may
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: Well now you're implying that things you say aren't implying other things that I have to point out for the audience.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - vipervicki: awesome ty thexa
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: That's absolutely true, I'm bored way too often.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Terminator: ಠ_ಠ
    May 1, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: see, look, the audience is loving it.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - A-z-K: I do love it
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - A-z-K: Xya, tell me about your fondest childhood memory
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: next up, streaming it on twitch, playing: shoutbox simulator 2017.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - vipervicki: im making my dad his father's day gift as we read how bored mr x is
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: Well you know there was this one time when I was in a yard and I kicked another child till he pissed himsefl, hilarious.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM - A-z-K: Ohh shit yeah - fathers day
    May 1, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: damn that was horrible, shit.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:15 PM - A-z-K: what ar eyou making?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: that's what you get for making me make stuff up on the spot.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:15 PM - A-z-K: Its OK X, we all know you were the kid that pissed himself. it's OK. It happens to all of us
    May 1, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 4:16 PM - A-z-K: Except me, if I piss myself I do it on purpose
    May 1, 2017 at 4:16 PM - vipervicki: sorry had to change thread color.. an embroidered throw pillow with his monogram for his couch
    May 1, 2017 at 4:16 PM - vipervicki: im embroidering the design now then mongram then sew and stuff the pillow
    May 1, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: oh god, I just understood something...
    May 1, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: impressive.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:17 PM - A-z-K: Baller. I love monogram stuff.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:18 PM - A-z-K: Bom headshot
    May 1, 2017 at 4:18 PM - vipervicki: ive been monogramming stuff lately, my beach hat , made tote bags with monograms im trying to sell them on etsy
    May 1, 2017 at 4:18 PM - vipervicki: towels
    May 1, 2017 at 4:19 PM - vipervicki: been busy with this but its fun
    May 1, 2017 at 4:19 PM - vipervicki: i made something real petty yesterday a cutlery pouch
    May 1, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: lol a-z-k
    May 1, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: oh look a patreon button.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: how much to buy Empires?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - A-z-K: I have monogram soap
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - vipervicki: azk I bought rising storm viet nam yesterday its coming out end of may.. 25% off
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - vipervicki: oh nice azk
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - A-z-K: Everyday when I wash my armpits I feel like Donald Trump
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - vipervicki: hahaha
    May 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM - vipervicki: the game looks good
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: Is that supposed to be a good thing?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - A-z-K: a friend was was trying to sell me on mying playerunkown battleground
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: dont think it has tank but has copters
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - A-z-K: but they also made me buy dayz and H1Z1 which are shockingly bad
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: tanks*
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: aww
    May 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: well I dont know how good or bad it will be but its was cheap enough
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: all those "survival" games are just copy paste, and terrible, don't buy any of them.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: also I was shocked
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: squad the game kylgaer is coding
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 PM - A-z-K: Squad is bonerrific
    May 1, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: kylegar*
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - vipervicki: its still in alpha and has tons of servers including like 30 full with 80/80
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: a.k.a. Roy Awesome
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - vipervicki: yeah thx x
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - vipervicki: the maps are pretty basic not very appealing graphically but tons of people play it
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - vipervicki: i was quite surprised
    May 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - A-z-K: yeah squad is pretty dope, Arma light
    May 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: Yup squad has a lot of players and seems to be pretty successful, but like Arma it's just shooting at people long range while blinking your eyes really hard to see what you're shooting at.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: pretty boring in the end.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: then again I suppose some people like those kind of things.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM - vipervicki: i bought it months ago and never really played yet. I launched it last night and some jerk was kill spawning so I left
    May 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Xyaminou: rofl
    May 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM - vipervicki: wasnt much fun spawning and dieing in seconds lol
    May 1, 2017 at 4:29 PM - vipervicki: i tried spawning elsewhere but no go
    May 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Kidpaler: I loved Arma, not for the base game but the mods. Takistan life was my shit. Played cop all the time and would roll around in heavy armor and shoot civies who disobeyed.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Kidpaler: Haven't seen a game even close to that since.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM - A-z-K: Yeah arma isnt a twitch shooter - well there are game modes but they suck. All about position, movement and fire, etc
    May 1, 2017 at 4:32 PM - A-z-K: DT roleplays an oppressive, militarised policeman, supressing the people and stealing their lands ;)
    May 1, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Kidpaler: It was fun as hell. Friends and I would roll around and end up getting comped for millions
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: I remember one time I got comped by this asshat who hopped in my m113a3 at a roadblock while we were inspecting a vehicle for bombs
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: Killed all of my friends, I shot him and he comped me for RDM for 1.5 mil
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: blackmailing? extortion? why am I not surprised?
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM - A-z-K: Theres a lot to like about the modability of the engine. I've had a big performance increase since they win 64 bit
    May 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: God, I wish that Arma 3 had taki life that was widely played
    May 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: That was the same as the old servers back in the day
    May 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: Where I could easily exploit money
    May 1, 2017 at 4:41 PM - vipervicki: monogramming now..azk
    May 1, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/813dfe6127e4cae2891bf07238f2e320.png
    May 1, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Neoony: nice, finally :P
    May 1, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Neoony: oh and discord too good :)
    May 1, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: Yes we can finally get a better development...
    May 1, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: where good ideas will have their place.
    May 1, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    May 1, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: oh no, wait, this is Empires
    May 1, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Neoony: shhhhh!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Neoony: he watching!
    May 1, 2017 at 4:52 PM - A-z-K: implying this is empires
    May 1, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Smithy: [​IMG]
    May 1, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Neoony: D:
    May 1, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Fooshi: I am very solid, thank you.
    May 1, 2017 at 5:33 PM - Mikleo: no.
    May 1, 2017 at 5:33 PM - Xyaminou: :gasmask:
    May 1, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Mikleo: ffs
    May 1, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Mikleo: I guess this means I'm going to give up plugin making, maybe just support the ones I have made already.
    May 1, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Neoony: lol, where did that come from? xD :o
    May 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Neoony: whats the "this" ? xD
    May 1, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: giev uepires now
    May 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Xyaminou: didn't know a single emote icon could have that much impact, wow.
    May 1, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Mikleo: Don't worry I'll record some cassette tapes.
    May 1, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Neoony: xD
    May 1, 2017 at 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: I still have no idea what you guys are talking about
    May 1, 2017 at 7:49 PM - vipervicki: LOL@ cassette tapes
    May 1, 2017 at 8:07 PM - Neoony: not like things in this shoutbox usually make much sense xD
    May 1, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: good point.
    May 1, 2017 at 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: Man, Shitmaps night is going to be fun
    May 1, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: hmm, everyone just crashed on forestattack
    May 1, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: neat
    May 1, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Smithy: n1
    May 1, 2017 at 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: Which version?
    May 1, 2017 at 8:36 PM - Xyaminou: a2
    May 1, 2017 at 8:38 PM - Kidpaler: Any errors when it crashed? I mean I have a more recent version but any errors?
    May 1, 2017 at 8:38 PM - Xyaminou: I don't have crashlogs, so no.
    May 1, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Kidpaler: Welp, it doesn't crash on meme or esb, so that is odd
    May 1, 2017 at 8:54 PM - Xyaminou: I know, it never crashed before.
    May 1, 2017 at 8:54 PM - Xyaminou: let's blame 2.13
    May 1, 2017 at 8:56 PM - vipervicki: hmmmm
    May 1, 2017 at 8:57 PM - vipervicki: either someone been messing with the files i put on esb or could the update have changed mao names??? con_district402?
    May 1, 2017 at 8:57 PM - vipervicki: map*
    May 1, 2017 at 8:58 PM - vipervicki: as_esoxrt?
    May 1, 2017 at 8:58 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, the changelog indicates that it changed
    May 1, 2017 at 8:58 PM - vipervicki: k didnt read it thx
    May 1, 2017 at 8:58 PM - vipervicki: con i assume is conquest what is as?
    May 1, 2017 at 8:59 PM - vipervicki: been out of the loop with empires last month or so
    May 1, 2017 at 8:59 PM - Mikleo: assault
    May 1, 2017 at 8:59 PM - Kidpaler: I would have liked ass_ instead but that was shot down
    May 1, 2017 at 8:59 PM - vipervicki: whats the differnece between assault and conquest?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - Kidpaler: Conquest is infantry, assault is one team attacking another
    May 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - Kidpaler: IE nuclear
    May 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - vipervicki: k
    May 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - Mikleo: nf_escort etc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - vipervicki: weird because every map is one team attacking another
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but one team isn't setup defensively
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Kidpaler: Escort, NF is defending BE is assaulting
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Kidpaler: Nuclear, BE is defending NF is assaulting
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Kidpaler: NF_escort, BE defends, NF assaults
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Kidpaler: etc etc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM - vipervicki: gotcha
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - vipervicki: vehicle maps should be veh_cyclopean
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - vipervicki: or not
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Kidpaler: Those are just ruled as commander maps which keep the emp prefix
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: A lot of weird shit happens In my town
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - vipervicki: makes sense
    May 1, 2017 at 9:02 PM - vipervicki: what happened?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:03 PM - vipervicki: oh cool silks making another map yay hes a good mapper
    May 1, 2017 at 9:04 PM - vipervicki: whats considered a shitmap for shitmap night?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:04 PM - Mikleo: a map that mr x despises
    May 1, 2017 at 9:04 PM - Mikleo: is called a shitmap
    May 1, 2017 at 9:05 PM - vipervicki: well then no maps will be played for that night
    May 1, 2017 at 9:05 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:05 PM - vipervicki: he has a complaint about everyhting and everyone. he should make his own communtiy then he be with the only one he likes, if he even likes himself
    May 1, 2017 at 9:06 PM - vipervicki: fn made a good shitmap,, major shitty
    May 1, 2017 at 9:07 PM - Kidpaler: Shitmap is just anything out of the ordinary
    May 1, 2017 at 9:07 PM - Kidpaler: King of the hill, really weird ideas, weird designs etc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:08 PM - vipervicki: ahh ok so not really shitty maps jsut outside the box maps
    May 1, 2017 at 9:08 PM - vipervicki: deathkillers is fun unfortunately it crashes servers
    May 1, 2017 at 9:08 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but shit maps are allowed as well
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Like this one time, some schools went to soft lockdown because some clowns threaten to shoot up the school in Flomaton
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - vipervicki: im really glad u finished varbles map i lvoe that map
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Kidpaler: So, if you want to make a map that is bad just make sure that it is not fullbright
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Kidpaler: Its far from finished
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Kidpaler: I have to do the 3d skybox
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Kidpaler: Something I am NOT looking forward too... bleh
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - vipervicki: i got 1 texture missing tho
    May 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM - vipervicki: i psoted a ss of it
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - vipervicki: not sure if its me or its really missing
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: Yea theres a couple other issues with it as well I have to fix
     
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    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: Such as, getting stuck in the BE dropship
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - vipervicki: ivw waited years for him to fix it
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: The tires on the spotlights are missing
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - vipervicki: glad u took it over
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: I am also working on Echelon now
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - vipervicki: ahh ok
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - vipervicki: nice
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - VulcanStorm: playable versions of these when?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: Landing is ready whenever
    May 1, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: its out there
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Kidpaler: Echelon, idk
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Kidpaler: I have a LOT to do for it.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - vipervicki: not good major :(
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - vipervicki: i bet dt
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Kidpaler: I have to add actual dropships that pick you up and fly you over for paradrops
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Kidpaler: I have to finish the whole facility, which is REALLY hard because I have to keep gameplay in mind and right now the only approach I have is essentially a stalingrad on Steroids for defenders
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - vipervicki: harryhoot has that in one of his maps
    May 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Fucking hell I'm lagging out I'll come back later
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - vipervicki: k
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - vipervicki: yeah sounds like a big job
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - Kidpaler: Oh yea, and theres the problem that Echelon could be a 3 hour map
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - Kidpaler: Since NF attacks BE first, then BE attacks NF after they take the facility
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - vipervicki: ugh
    May 1, 2017 at 9:12 PM - VulcanStorm: 1k tickets each side?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:13 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:13 PM - vipervicki: maybe put it on a timer
    May 1, 2017 at 9:13 PM - VulcanStorm: is it not possible to split it into 2 maps?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:13 PM - VulcanStorm: like, compile the 1 half, then compile the other?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:13 PM - vipervicki: each team has so limited time to do what they need
    May 1, 2017 at 9:14 PM - VulcanStorm: play the maps 1 after the other for a "campaign" style thing
    May 1, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Kidpaler: I want to keep the map to Silks original image.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Kidpaler: And I think I have ways of making it quicker
    May 1, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Kidpaler: IE, dropships that pick you up, fly you up high and allow you to paradrop, nuke tanks, a blimp that acts as a spawn point
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - Kidpaler: I think these things might make the map considerably shorter.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - VulcanStorm: why not just wait for aircraft? lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - VulcanStorm: but dropships would be cool...
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - Kidpaler: You're right, let me just put Echelon on hold for 30 years until we go to Unreal 10
    May 1, 2017 at 9:15 PM - vipervicki: 30 years? your e optimisitc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - vipervicki: empires....the next generation
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Kidpaler: But if any of you have any ideas for echelon, please go to the thread. I need ideas for what to put in certain spots :(
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - vipervicki: i never played it so wouldnt know..sorry
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Kidpaler: At this point, I think Empires should go in a museum for surviving a whole generation
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Kidpaler: You dont need to play it
    May 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Kidpaler: I just need building ideas for certain spots
    May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM - Kidpaler: Like, design plans
    May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM - vipervicki: k
    May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM - vipervicki: there should be apc game museum if there isnt one
    May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM - vipervicki: a pc not apc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:17 PM - vipervicki: mr x can be the poster child for empires
    May 1, 2017 at 9:18 PM - vipervicki: actually it should be headshotmaster
    May 1, 2017 at 9:18 PM - vipervicki: spawn backwards!
    May 1, 2017 at 9:18 PM - vipervicki: its not down yet!
    May 1, 2017 at 9:18 PM - flasche: thats all unimportant
    May 1, 2017 at 9:18 PM - vipervicki: oh i gottadd my admin sounds of him to esb
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: give uepires
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: most important
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - Kidpaler: I have heard from someone that HSM still plays under a different name
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: nao
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - vipervicki: forgot about those
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: as if HSM could hide
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - vipervicki: i made them off youtube if u want them dt for memehouse
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: hed instantly give it away with the first word he says yells
    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM - Kidpaler: We have them already I think
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - Kidpaler: Thats the thing, he is tame now because I heard his job basically hinges on it
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah flasche unless hes mellowed
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - Kidpaler: I heard hes a radio DJ and he doesnt want the videos of him yelling getting out
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - vipervicki: aww then hes no fun anymore lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - vipervicki: cant blame him
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - vipervicki: real lfie takes precedent
    May 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM - vipervicki: life
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - vipervicki: then I wont add them
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: is english your first fucking language?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: (c) HSM
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - vipervicki: that was funny
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: no
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: (c) mr.weedy
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - vipervicki: and they guy says no
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - vipervicki: ol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - vipervicki: my scroll doesn't scroll its annoying.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:21 PM - Kidpaler: Well Vicki, I mean, you can have them
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - vipervicki: i have to do it manually
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: like, we play them
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: But no one knows who HSM is anymore really :/ Lot of people have asked "Who is that" when we play the old sound bites
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - vipervicki: i have them for sure but if he doesn't want then around ill respect that
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: Well, I dont know that. It's something I "heard"
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - vipervicki: true
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - vipervicki: ah ok
    May 1, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: I can't verify any of that, but it's what I heard about him from someone
    May 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM - Kidpaler: I do wish he came back in his original yelling manner. Best we have now is Axeman
    May 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM - Kidpaler: Or bigteef
    May 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM - vipervicki: yeah i dont buy into rumors id rather ask the person involved
    May 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM - flasche: so noone remembers this gem either https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbjasautt8q8tt1/ETH0_LOVES_THE_COCK_DJ_DARUCK_FT_SONECHA.mp3
    May 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM - vipervicki: i hav him on steam but hasnt seen him log in in a very long time
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: now i get nostalgica
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - vipervicki: omg ethos i always muted him not as admin on tab he never ever shuts uo
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: thx
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: :(
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - vipervicki: up
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: its just eth0
    May 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - Kidpaler: What happened to eth0?
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - Kidpaler: I remember him always being on rants long ago. I think I even told him to shut up and play one time
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - flasche: i assume life but no clue
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - Kidpaler: He still plays other games I think, someone recently linked me to his profile
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - flasche: fucking abandoned apc
    May 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - vipervicki: omg my puppy was chewing the wood leg of my sewing table i didnt see since Ive been typing ugh
    May 1, 2017 at 9:26 PM - vipervicki: he really got on my last nerve talking so much
    May 1, 2017 at 9:26 PM - vipervicki: i jsut sprayed it with bitter apple
    May 1, 2017 at 9:27 PM - vipervicki: he was chewing his bone then i look its my table leg lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:28 PM - Kidpaler: God listening to that song reminds me of old Empires and the weird thing is when we are all gone and some other people take over we are going to be the people THEY remember fondly
    May 1, 2017 at 9:29 PM - Kidpaler: Ya know, since Empires can never die and some other unfortunate poor souls will get roped into this
    May 1, 2017 at 9:31 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah
    May 1, 2017 at 9:33 PM - flasche: no one will remember me
    May 1, 2017 at 9:33 PM - flasche: im not controversial enough (c) trickster
    May 1, 2017 at 9:34 PM - flasche: (read: im boring)
    May 1, 2017 at 9:34 PM - Kidpaler: So, get on the mic and start yelling at people with your austrian accent.
    May 1, 2017 at 9:34 PM - flasche: but that doesnt matter, what matters is "when will we finally get uepires"
    May 1, 2017 at 9:35 PM - Kidpaler: People with a heavy accent will be remembered more fondly
    May 1, 2017 at 9:38 PM - vipervicki: ill be remembered as the one who killed empires lol
    May 1, 2017 at 9:41 PM - vipervicki: im adding to my signature..Please remember flasche
    May 1, 2017 at 9:41 PM - vipervicki: viper will be remembered for a long time some with good memories and some not
    May 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Smithy: Sorry guys I need to prune the shoutbox
    May 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Smithy: I need the archive thread for something said earlier about crashes
    May 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Smithy: but it hasn't been written yet
    May 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Xyaminou: remove shoutbox
    May 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Xyaminou: use discord
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Xyaminou: and now to be the last message on the logs
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Xyaminou: PENIS
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Kidpaler: Nope
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Smithy: lol it won't even let me do it xD
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Xyaminou: god damnit
    May 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Kidpaler: Huzzah! Shoutbox is saved!
    May 1, 2017 at 9:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: And I'm back now
    May 1, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Smithy: ASDASDASD
     
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    May 1, 2017 9:47 PM - Smithy: I ate the shoutbox
    May 1, 2017 9:47 PM - VulcanStorm: O.o
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Good god what happened?
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - VulcanStorm: Did it taste good?
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - Smithy: Ok got what I needed
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - Smithy: It's all DJT's fault
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - Smithy: causing crashes and shit
    May 1, 2017 9:48 PM - Smithy: afaik forestattack is the only map using detail models
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - Smithy: and theres a crash in that code it seems
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - vipervicki: damn i missed it who said what about who?
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - Kidpaler: Oh, you needed that information?
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - Kidpaler: I could have told you it was X comoplaining about a crash on my map
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - Smithy: I didn't see what map it was
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - Kidpaler: Btw, I think I know whats wrong and how to use your models as detailmodels. Something about the vmt something something going to have to see what LordDz said
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - flasche: its also trumps fault we dont have uepires yet
    May 1, 2017 9:49 PM - flasche: i bet
    May 1, 2017 9:50 PM - vipervicki: i guess i should remvoe it?
    May 1, 2017 9:50 PM - Smithy: It dropped the whole server before
    May 1, 2017 9:50 PM - Smithy: I have crash dumps but investigating still
    May 1, 2017 9:50 PM - Kidpaler: I see... so you're telling me I should stop including that in all the maps
    May 1, 2017 9:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Anyways as I was saying
    May 1, 2017 9:53 PM - vipervicki: wb major
    May 1, 2017 9:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: The clowns never came near the schools
    May 1, 2017 9:53 PM - vipervicki: thats good
    May 1, 2017 9:54 PM - vipervicki: damn stabbing jsut happened one dead 3 injured
    May 1, 2017 9:55 PM - vipervicki: uni of texas
    May 1, 2017 9:55 PM - vipervicki: tlaking about school violence
    May 1, 2017 9:59 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: But it happened during my school's "game day". So our principal, or headmaster for the ones across the pond, got on the intercom and informed us that he was pissed about this, and that, and I quote, "No one's gonna MY game day!"
    May 1, 2017 10:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Fucking hell, I sometimes question people's minds
    May 1, 2017 10:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Talking about the stabbing
    May 1, 2017 10:21 PM - vipervicki: alot of sickos seem to be coming out of the woodwork
    May 1, 2017 11:22 PM - BigTeef:
     
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    May 2, 2017 5:44 AM - Kidpaler: In the span of 5 minutes, both PYA and I crashed 4 times.
    May 2, 2017 5:53 AM - Kidpaler: tOTAL, not each
    May 2, 2017 2:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'm done with this people around me
    May 2, 2017 2:04 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: cause i just read an article about how two years ago a FBI translator got hitched with an ISIS rapper in Syria
    May 2, 2017 2:04 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: three years actually
    May 2, 2017 11:29 PM - BigTeef: Hey
    May 2, 2017 11:29 PM - BigTeef: Jesus man
    May 3, 2017 4:30 AM - Kidpaler: Disturbing lack of content posted today.
     
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    May 3, 2017 7:07 AM - Ranger: my bro is finally presenting his thesis today
    May 3, 2017 7:17 AM - PwnedYoAss: What's his thesis on?
    May 3, 2017 10:57 AM - Ranger: naval engineering. had to do with software and experiments
    May 3, 2017 11:07 AM - Paradox: Thats oddly inspecific
    May 3, 2017 11:24 AM - Ranger: i dont remember
    May 3, 2017 2:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: bap
     
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    May 4, 2017 12:18 PM - A-z-K: fap
    May 4, 2017 2:01 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: sure been quiet here for a couple of days
    May 4, 2017 2:04 PM - PwnedYoAss: It seems, that this week is either a dead week, or a finals week for most of the people on Empires.
    May 4, 2017 2:04 PM - PwnedYoAss: Which explains the inactivity
    May 4, 2017 2:43 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: We Americans are nearing our summer break so you could right on that
    May 4, 2017 2:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i think my school does exams at the last week of school, which is the third week of this month
    May 4, 2017 2:54 PM - A-z-K: I can't believe everyone that plays this game isn't like 30 by now
    May 4, 2017 2:54 PM - A-z-K: Damn whipper snappers
    May 4, 2017 2:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: you know im usually afraid to use microphones in games cause i keep having the idea that i sound like a squeaker
    May 4, 2017 3:07 PM - Xyaminou: can you guys access http://213.245.206.161/empires/
    May 4, 2017 3:07 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    May 4, 2017 3:08 PM - PwnedYoAss: Nada
    May 4, 2017 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: great, so it just stopped working for no reason. wonderful
    May 4, 2017 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: whatever I've wasted enough time on this, if it doesn't want to fucking work then fuck it.
    May 4, 2017 3:46 PM - A-z-K: A cursory port scan says 135/tcp filtered msrpc, 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn, 445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
    May 4, 2017 3:48 PM - A-z-K: IP WHOIS says it is owned by NUMERICABLE. So I'm guessing thats hosted on your cable?
    May 4, 2017 3:50 PM - A-z-K: In any case the problem is network. Check the service is running, that you can connect to it locally, that the firewall is forwarding port 80 traffic (sometimes ISPs do firmware updates to yoru router that factory reset them), and check Windows Firewall, Antivirus, etc isn't blocking
    May 4, 2017 3:51 PM - A-z-K: Typical faults like without config changes this are due to router or security software routine updates
    May 4, 2017 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I checked all that, I just haven't tried restarting my router and I don't want to do it right now which is why I gave up.
    May 4, 2017 4:45 PM - A-z-K: If you give up the terrorists win
    May 4, 2017 4:45 PM - Kidpaler: No no no, you got that wrong. The real quote is "If you kill your enemies they win"
    May 4, 2017 5:09 PM - A-z-K: I don't know who told you that. Don't trust them
    May 4, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: had to reboot not one but THREE times to it to fucking work.
    May 4, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: reboot once, no internet, twice, no internet, 3rd time is the charm. WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF FUCKING GARBAGE SHIT FUCK YOU ISP SONS OF BITCHES WITH YOUR GARBAGE HARDWARE.
    May 4, 2017 5:19 PM - Xyaminou: whatever, someone find me a tutorial for sourcebans++
    May 4, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: guessing it should be the same as for original sourcebans
    May 4, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: https://www.gameconnect.net/projects/sourcebans/manual/
    May 4, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: or simple "sourcebans how to" in the google
    May 4, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: there are some videos too
    May 4, 2017 6:10 PM - Neoony: yeah, even ++ links that manual
    May 4, 2017 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: http://213.245.206.161/sourcebans/index.php?p=home
    May 4, 2017 6:10 PM - Neoony: just btw...if I was you I would use the more update dev version of sourcebans++ https://github.com/sbpp/sourcebans-pp/archive/v1.x.zip
    May 4, 2017 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: I know neoony, I read the manual, didn't help, but I joined the discord and people helped, so looks like it's working now. Just need to ban people to try it.
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure I have the latest neoony, it's 1.6.0 from 11 days ago.
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Neoony: 1.6.1
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: oh, well
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: that was marked as dev build
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: so
    May 4, 2017 6:11 PM - Neoony: 1.6.0 was done in 2016
    May 4, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: not according to that: https://github.com/sbpp/sourcebans-pp/releases
    May 4, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: anyhow, we'll see.
    May 4, 2017 6:12 PM - Neoony: oh what xD
    May 4, 2017 6:13 PM - Neoony: this is if you click on changelog on their official website https://i.gyazo.com/bac3f15ffe9d2f7d63184e0fc6bcde80.png
    May 4, 2017 6:13 PM - Neoony: the dev version seems to have yesterdays files
    May 4, 2017 6:15 PM - Neoony: I wonder if they still plan to rewrite it, or when :P
    May 4, 2017 6:16 PM - Neoony: need a test subject?
    May 4, 2017 6:17 PM - Neoony: but only if right now :P
    May 4, 2017 6:19 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Would you care for a cigar?
    May 4, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: @Destroyer did you remove me from friends on steam and discord??
     
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    May 5, 2017 9:56 AM - A-z-K: I'd love a cigar
    May 5, 2017 2:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler:
    May 5, 2017 2:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oops
    May 5, 2017 2:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: ow, i just smashed my keyboard with forehead
    May 5, 2017 6:44 PM - Paradox: I hope vicki tries to lie her way out of it some more, its going to be glorious
    May 5, 2017 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    May 5, 2017 6:52 PM - vipervicki: you are so ignorant paradox I hope you do better if you ever get your medical license if not God help your patients
    May 5, 2017 6:57 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    May 5, 2017 6:57 PM - Xyaminou: drama!
    May 5, 2017 7:02 PM - vipervicki: we did that jsut for you X to keep you from being bored
    May 5, 2017 7:08 PM - complete_: i would be more concerned about the guy who gets fooled by the onion getting his medical license
    May 5, 2017 7:09 PM - vipervicki: lol
    May 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: thanks.
    May 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: onions? we're talking about food now?
    May 5, 2017 7:27 PM - Paradox: This is bringing me a lot of joy to start of the weekend
    May 5, 2017 7:27 PM - Xyaminou: onions bring you a lot of joy?
    May 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Paradox: the politics thread is
    May 5, 2017 7:41 PM - vipervicki: yw X any time
    May 5, 2017 9:02 PM - Ranger: free the birbs
    May 5, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: well, that was one successful Friday night Empires, see you tomorrow.
    May 5, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: for more!
    May 6, 2017 12:05 AM - BigTeef:
    May 6, 2017 12:05 AM - BigTeef: Wait did I miss a game session or was that sarcasm
    May 6, 2017 12:44 AM - Xyaminou: wasn't sarcasm, we definitely had one good game and two decent.
    May 6, 2017 12:44 AM - Xyaminou: so pretty good for a friday when it's usually just dead.
    May 6, 2017 1:08 AM - Kidpaler: Fridays never use to be dead. They use to be one of the popular days.
    May 6, 2017 1:22 AM - McGyver:
    May 6, 2017 1:36 AM - BigTeef: :verysad:
    May 6, 2017 2:31 AM - vipervicki: X killed empires
    May 6, 2017 2:38 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: YA its firday friday more like monday for me i work weekends :(
    May 6, 2017 2:38 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: its is preety dead
    May 6, 2017 2:38 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ooo well back to netflix
    May 6, 2017 3:15 AM - Kidpaler: Its been this way for about a month
     
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