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    Mar 17, 2017 at 5:56 AM - Neoony: lul
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:47 AM - Kidpaler: You doing reshade + forestattack? I kind of want to see what its like
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:39 AM - Neoony: I kinda cant afford to add another work xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:40 AM - Neoony: I might try, but not too soon
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:44 AM - Neoony: but without depth effects its as easy as sliding few sliders since reshade 3
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:45 AM - Neoony: so you might even try yourself :P
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:18 AM - vipervicki: neoony?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:33 AM - Paradox: Spike u wanted me to get my numbers , but u wanted me to specifically do it your way that sucked ballz. And you couldjt put aside your ego and let it slide. So suck a dick asshole
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:33 AM - Paradox: I got my numbers everytime without your shit way that obviously didnt work since mr x always had less.
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:34 AM - Paradox: Lying prick
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:42 AM - Boovy!: wtf are you chatin ? your talkin to your self??
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:49 AM - A-z-K: literally all her wanted you to do was make a post in a steam group. i even offered to do it for you, it would have taken 2 minutes. your ego was just as big paradox
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM - A-z-K: you both collectively were retarded
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM - Boovy!: OK I SHAL BE A CAPTAIN THIS SUMMER LEAGUE WHOS WITH ME!!!???
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:51 AM - Boovy!: wait does being capain mean you have to command??
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:51 AM - Boovy!: I SHAL CHOOSE A COMANDER!!
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:52 AM - Boovy!: who wants to commandfor me ???
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:52 AM - Boovy!: the TEAM shall be called THE PIT DAWGZ!
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:53 AM - Boovy!: everyone must have name as :boovdawg, azkdawg, paradawg, spikedawg, mr dawg ... and so on and so fourth ...
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:56 AM - A-z-K: yeah sure why not
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM - A-z-K: i like the name, will there be gangster rap?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM - Boovy!: YEAA BOIII HOW I DO IT???
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM - Boovy!: ye for show mofo
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM - A-z-K: i dunno, ask spike, or paradox. fuck it ask both - it'll be entertaining
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM - Boovy!: who shal comm for me??
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM - Boovy!: ```11``1q122
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM - Paradox: Im replying to spike spreading lies
    Mar 17, 2017 at 11:59 AM - Boovy!: ye i just seen the thread
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:01 PM - Boovy!: its A to the Z to the K, gunna bake you a cake today
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:01 PM - Paradox: Azk he didnt want me to just post a message. He wanted me to make mass events and announcements. Like ”3hours till event" "1 hour till event " " 15 min till event"
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:02 PM - Boovy!: ohhh iv seeen them before
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:02 PM - Boovy!: i always think i have a messege
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:02 PM - A-z-K: that 1 minutes work
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03 PM - A-z-K: dont make me spit bars boov
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03 PM - A-z-K: Someone better drop me a fucking beat right nowardly
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:04 PM - A-z-K: now it's time for my chocolat chat, so have a break and have a kit kat
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:04 PM - A-z-K: let's go, freshen your breath with a mint polo
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:04 PM - A-z-K: have a snickers and mars a day, a galaxy or a milky way
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:05 PM - Boovy!: spitin acapela with a can of stella
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM - A-z-K: man you gay, a fake so go ahead and bake me that cake
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM - A-z-K: mic spike, i'm out
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM - Boovy!: but can you beat box in ya sox when ya smokin rocks i think not
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM - A-z-K: thats true, I'm pretty bad at smoking rocks
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM - Boovy!: spikes a fagit with a bad habit of bein a magit
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM - A-z-K: makes my eyes go funny
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM - A-z-K: fuck summer league, lets just have cheesy rap battles
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:08 PM - Boovy!: haha azk i remember that 1 night you was totally smashed
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:08 PM - Boovy!: you was snortin lines of coke up your ass
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:08 PM - Boovy!: tryna snipe people from the grass
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM - Boovy!: you was well gettin harrast
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM - Boovy!: it was on emp_blast
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM - A-z-K: thats what hapens when people give me tons of free drugs then leave me alone for a week
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - A-z-K: don't do drugs kids, its a gateway to scouting
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Boovy!: haha you like that
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Boovy!: yeyeye
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Boovy!: loool
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Boovy!: lmfao
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Boovy!: you remember
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM - Boovy!: you was crawling along the wall
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM - A-z-K: i dont do that anymore, I'm too old
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM - A-z-K: Well when that charlie sheen auto tune came out I got over excited
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM - Boovy!: ahhahahahaa
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM - Boovy!: winning]
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM - Boovy!: ok am off to the gym catch yall tonight 8:30 pronto be there or be a pear
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM - Boovy!: oh really 8 : 30 doeas a fukin cat face
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM - Boovy!: you fukin wiebooozz
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:14 PM - A-z-K: everyday is chest day
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:15 PM - Boovy!: lol
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:15 PM - Boovy!: treadmill#
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we are doing VO for jeepjoust right now, if anyone has any feedback they have been holding out on, speak up now
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9umq1ym2a9a6thu/VO.txt?dl=0
    Mar 17, 2017 at 12:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: half an hour in we are on line #4
    Mar 17, 2017 at 1:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: who would have thought "command vehicle" would be such a showstopper
    Mar 17, 2017 at 2:12 PM - flasche: hobbes
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the recording software crashed two lines before we finished and began saving the VO
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:01 PM - flasche: do you record one sitting and then cut it later?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we recorded each line as an individual track
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: recovery worked so we are good
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we only got through the jeepjoust VO, got too hung up on pronounciation proble
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: problems
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ok now to edit this
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:36 PM - LordDz_2: I think I just finished the artillery system for the trench assault map
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:37 PM - LordDz_2: I am now insane.
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: do you mean
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: WICKED SICK
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:49 PM - LordDz_2: It is wicked sick.
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:49 PM - LordDz_2: I'm just going crazy after all the hammer crashes
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xhelszjukt5c1t7/blooper1.wav?dl=0
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8g3o5iaizrxl7uu/blooper2.wav?dl=0
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we are really good at what we're doing
    Mar 17, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Ranger: "On the other hand, 4 fingers and a thumb " ~AZK
    Mar 17, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Ranger: xD I laughed more than I should have
    Mar 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM - A-z-K: :)
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:28 PM - Neoony: double the splash damage
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:28 PM - Neoony: im still laughing xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:28 PM - Neoony: A-z-K just wins
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:30 PM - Neoony: but I always wanted to tell him that he reminds me of FrankieOnPC, especially the voice xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:30 PM - Neoony: or maybe its rather vice versa xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 7:32 PM - Neoony: he even has that similar humor xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:05 PM - vipervicki: neeony?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:06 PM - vipervicki: what was wrong with pires he seems fine to me
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:06 PM - vipervicki: and destoyer we played the new version of your map awhile ago
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:07 PM - Neoony: well....install the original plugin and you will see :P
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:07 PM - Neoony: it errors out
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:07 PM - vipervicki: its been sintalled sicne viper
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:07 PM - vipervicki: and wa son nubs
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:07 PM - vipervicki: nd on esb
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM - Neoony: and you didnt have to edit it?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM - vipervicki: and its on esb
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM - Neoony: didnt have to make him not spawn as a model and such?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM - vipervicki: i never had him spawn with a model
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM - Neoony: he would crash because he has things written for hl2dm
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM - vipervicki: didnt want a model on him
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM - vipervicki: it was annoying
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM - vipervicki: so you leave model as ""
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM - vipervicki: in the cfg
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM - Neoony: thats what I was trying to get rid of...but I didnt actually tryed just leaving empty model....but I think wired messed with him after that point when I made it work
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Neoony: so I dunno if he did it...but I saw him on memehouse
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Neoony: the bot
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Neoony: so I guess he did
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM - vipervicki: well its easy enouhg jsut not to fill anyhting in the model option
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Neoony: I didnt try, cause I didnt even realized he spawns when testing...wired told me that and I had no time to do anything more
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: him flying around the map is annoying
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Neoony: I know
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: u can make him no spwn
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Neoony: of course you can
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:11 PM - vipervicki: so not sure what u mean
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:12 PM - Neoony: Neoony A moment ago - Neoony: I didnt try, cause I didnt even realized he spawns when testing...wired told me that and I had no time to do anything more
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Neoony: but main issue was him erroring out at start of the plugin
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:13 PM - vipervicki: thats what is confusing saying u didnt know he spawns
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:13 PM - vipervicki: anway ive been using him for years and no real issues for the msot part
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Neoony: I thought it wouldnt work by default or that you have to use command for him to really appear...I only tested if he loads and works
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:14 PM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:14 PM - Neoony: but original plugin simply doesnt load
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:14 PM - vipervicki: hes on by default u jsut go to bot.cfg and change it in data folder
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:15 PM - vipervicki: hmm ive been using it for years so not sure why it doesnt load for u
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:15 PM - vipervicki: anway im fine with how the orignial plguin is so not sure whatwe ar saying here lol
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Neoony: I just had no time to look into the model thing, only fixed its startup
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Neoony: its that simple
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:17 PM - Neoony: it didnt load because: https://i.gyazo.com/b5e9ef889b667f62d12e03a12aaeeb46.png
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:17 PM - Neoony: for some reason
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:17 PM - Neoony: just error for me and probably wired too
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:17 PM - vipervicki: thats weir becasue it has always loaded for me
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:17 PM - vipervicki: weird
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM - vipervicki: how else would i have used it for the past 8 years
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM - vipervicki: but good u got it to work on wired server
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM - Neoony: thought you did the simple fix as I did xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM - vipervicki: no
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: never touched it
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: i found the plugin when i had viper
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: n puyt it on and its wored ever since
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: put
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: worked
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - Neoony: wonder when was last update
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: so dont know why it doesnt load on wired server
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - Neoony: let me check
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: of sourcebot?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - Neoony: too far
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - vipervicki: it worked on nubs too
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:19 PM - Neoony: 2009
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - vipervicki: and works on esb now
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - vipervicki: yeah its old
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - TheCreeper: Yeah, worked on nubs without any modifications.
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - vipervicki: we never touched it and for esb server i got it right off sm forums
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - vipervicki: thats whya i had no ide what u were tlaking about LOL
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - vipervicki: so confoooosed
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM - Neoony: then its weird, me and wired got completely different dedi servers
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:21 PM - Neoony: xD
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:21 PM - vipervicki: did u check if mm nd sm are isntalled correctly?
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:21 PM - vipervicki: mm and sm
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:21 PM - Neoony: like lol
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:21 PM - Neoony: definitely
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:22 PM - vipervicki: then i dunno i jsut isntalled him strightfrom sm forums a few days ago and the little bugger loads fine lol
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:22 PM - vipervicki: wish i knew why but im stumped
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:25 PM - Neoony: really dunno
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:25 PM - Neoony: odd
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:25 PM - vipervicki: id say so
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:26 PM - vipervicki: i didnt wanna use viper plugisn sicne its been gone for a couple years jsut incase any were updated so got them off the sm forums itself
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:31 PM - flasche: pug
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: nao
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: come
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: faster
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: abandon everything
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:33 PM - flasche: especially hope
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM - Scar: PUG ON JEKOTIAN STARTING NOW JOIN UP IF YOU CAN
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM - LordDz_2: penis
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM - flasche: penispug
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM - flasche: you gonna love it
    Mar 17, 2017 at 8:58 PM - complete_: i cant even download the damn map you guys put on. gj
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Scar: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/single-lane-low-pop-comm-map.18674/
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Scar: download it from here complete
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:06 PM - Scar: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/331067/map/emp_drygulch_a6.zip
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:06 PM - Scar: the fastdl should be working i tested it last night and it worked fine...
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:39 PM - flasche: the link is broke
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:39 PM - flasche: fucking dropbox bullshit disabled this copy public link thing -.-.
    Mar 17, 2017 at 9:40 PM - flasche: fixed the thread
    Mar 17, 2017 at 10:00 PM - Scar: me flashce and acouple of others tested all the other maps on the server
    Mar 17, 2017 at 10:01 PM - Scar: and those maps seemed to download fine with no issues and no missing map error
    Mar 17, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Scar: ill do a reschedule the pug for sunday the 19th
     
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    Mar 18, 2017 at 1:03 PM - vipervicki: .
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:00 PM - Xyaminou: also quicksearch for the !profile plugin: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=701785
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:00 PM - Xyaminou:
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:12 PM - flasche: lol?
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:12 PM - flasche: a few days back there was a dancing playermodel (in t-pose) on district
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:12 PM - flasche: thexa4 saw it aswell
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:13 PM - flasche: its the ghost of district
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:16 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:16 PM - flasche: only made a screenshot
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:23 PM - Xyaminou: it's the memebot
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:24 PM - Xyaminou: few days ago it was a player model but they replaced it with a mine
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:33 PM - flasche: oh
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:33 PM - flasche: disappointing
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM - Neoony: he is quite cute as a mine though xD
    Mar 18, 2017 at 2:41 PM - Neoony: I like how he said. "I ESCAPED" on that vid, when being chased by Oktay xD
    Mar 18, 2017 at 5:06 PM - LordDz_2: "How the hell do I get ammo"
    Mar 18, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: pray to ammo gods
    Mar 18, 2017 at 8:51 PM - vipervicki: senor
    Mar 18, 2017 at 8:51 PM - vipervicki: log onto steam please
    Mar 19, 2017 at 2:38 AM - Xyaminou: just experienced the biggest crash disaster in Empires' history
    Mar 19, 2017 at 3:25 AM - Sgt.Security: [​IMG]
    Mar 19, 2017 at 3:25 AM - Sgt.Security: [​IMG]
    Mar 19, 2017 at 3:25 AM - Sgt.Security: Fucking dropbox
    Mar 19, 2017 at 3:26 AM - Sgt.Security: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lvnhcsg51lt5ojk/20170319101328_1.jpg?dl=0
     
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    Mar 19, 2017 4:16 AM - flasche: yes they removed that "copy public link" thing
    Mar 19, 2017 4:16 AM - flasche: fucking assholes
    Mar 19, 2017 4:16 AM - flasche: what good i dropbox now
    Mar 19, 2017 10:14 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they sent 2 or 3 notices that they are removing those for reasons
    Mar 19, 2017 2:18 PM - flasche: for bullshit reasons
    Mar 19, 2017 2:21 PM - flasche: all images and other links i posted anywhere are now broke
    Mar 19, 2017 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: is there a (not outdated) guide to installing an Empires dedicated server anywhere
    Mar 19, 2017 4:05 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause the wiki is outdated
    Mar 19, 2017 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: also how much RAM/CPU does it really require?
    Mar 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Thexa4: Do you want to install on windows or linux?
    Mar 19, 2017 4:40 PM - Thexa4: Linux is up to date here: https://wiki.empiresmod.com/Dedicated_Server_Setup#Dedicated_Server_.28Linux.29
    Mar 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: For Windows: install the Empires Dedicated Server from the tools tab in Steam
    Mar 19, 2017 4:41 PM - Thexa4: (and press play)
    Mar 19, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: it's okay smithy helped me out
    Mar 19, 2017 5:05 PM - Thexa4: Would be great if you could write some notes of what you had to do on the wiki :)
    Mar 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: what bandwidth does a 64p server need approximately?
    Mar 19, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: also damn, driving jeeps with a ping of 30 is a whole different world of driving
    Mar 19, 2017 5:12 PM - flasche: in comparison to 100+ms latency
    Mar 19, 2017 5:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: low latency empires is A++
    Mar 19, 2017 5:29 PM - Thexa4: +- 20 mbit
    Mar 19, 2017 5:29 PM - Xyaminou: failing to install sourcemods
    Mar 19, 2017 5:29 PM - Thexa4: maybe more
    Mar 19, 2017 5:30 PM - Xyaminou: metamod is not being recognized
    Mar 19, 2017 5:32 PM - Thexa4: how did you install it?
    Mar 19, 2017 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: downloaded the .exe and installed in the empires folder
    Mar 19, 2017 5:33 PM - Thexa4: ah
    Mar 19, 2017 5:33 PM - Thexa4: I know the zip version works
    Mar 19, 2017 5:33 PM - Xyaminou: do you have a link for it?
    Mar 19, 2017 5:34 PM - Thexa4: one sec
    Mar 19, 2017 5:34 PM - Thexa4: http://www.sourcemm.net/downloads/mmsource-1.10.6-windows.zip
    Mar 19, 2017 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: alright found it
    Mar 19, 2017 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: and yes it works instantly lol
    Mar 19, 2017 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: their fucking wiki...
    Mar 19, 2017 5:35 PM - Xyaminou: is clearly outdated too.
    Mar 19, 2017 5:36 PM - Thexa4: :P
    Mar 19, 2017 5:36 PM - Xyaminou: oh but sourcemods is not working... mmeeeh.
    Mar 19, 2017 5:36 PM - Xyaminou: probably yet another outdated wiki
    Mar 19, 2017 5:39 PM - vipervicki: destoryer did you find someone for the photoshop project?
    Mar 19, 2017 5:41 PM - Xyaminou: hooray, sourcemods works.
    Mar 19, 2017 5:45 PM - Xyaminou: hmm the wiki doesn't say how to install addons for sourcemods
    Mar 19, 2017 5:45 PM - Xyaminou: how do I install ungrief and stuff
    Mar 19, 2017 5:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vicki, nope
    Mar 19, 2017 5:58 PM - Xyaminou: nvm, figured it out, duh.
    Mar 19, 2017 6:35 PM - Xyaminou: which map voting plugin are people using?
    Mar 19, 2017 6:38 PM - Neoony: think it might be this one https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=134190
    Mar 19, 2017 6:45 PM - Neoony: added to wiki along with ungrief
    Mar 19, 2017 6:49 PM - Xyaminou: another stupid question, how do you change the maxplayers?
    Mar 19, 2017 6:49 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not seeing it in server.cfg
    Mar 19, 2017 6:54 PM - Thexa4: it's a command line option
    Mar 19, 2017 6:56 PM - Xyaminou: anything else I should put in the .bat?
    Mar 19, 2017 6:56 PM - Xyaminou: like how to make it auto-restart when it crashes and stuff?
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Thexa4: This is what I use: -game empires -secure -steam -dev -steam_dir ~/Steam/ -steamcmd_script ../update -autoupdate -maxplayers 62 +map emp_district
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Thexa4: you might wnt to omit the -dev
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Neoony: oh...that reminds me of a useful plugin that i stumbled upon
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Kidpaler: Did you buy a server MrX?
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Thexa4: auto-restart should be included
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Neoony: restore map on crash https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=889196
    Mar 19, 2017 6:59 PM - Xyaminou: no no, nothing like that, I'm hosting on my livingroom computer
    Mar 19, 2017 7:00 PM - Neoony: a listenserver?
    Mar 19, 2017 7:00 PM - Xyaminou: no, dedicated.
    Mar 19, 2017 7:00 PM - Neoony: k
    Mar 19, 2017 7:32 PM - Xyaminou: I feel like I need a lawyer...
    Mar 19, 2017 8:17 PM - Neoony: lol
    Mar 19, 2017 8:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a lawyer is a good person to have
    Mar 19, 2017 8:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: probably up there with a doctor
    Mar 19, 2017 8:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: slightly below a maid
    Mar 19, 2017 8:39 PM - Scar: Pug on jekotian starting now
    Mar 19, 2017 9:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: so at this rate we will have more server than players
    Mar 19, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: we always did its nothing new
    Mar 19, 2017 9:43 PM - vipervicki: but its ncvie the players have achocie each server is different which to me is nice
    Mar 19, 2017 9:43 PM - vipervicki: choice
    Mar 19, 2017 9:43 PM - vipervicki: cant eat the same vanilla ice cream all the time
    Mar 19, 2017 9:50 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i just want some chcolate chips on top of my vannila perfection
    Mar 19, 2017 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: "at this rate we'll have more server than players" there wasn't a single european server with sourcemods admins and votemap, so no, you're wrong.
    Mar 19, 2017 10:59 PM - Neoony: dat server list xD
    Mar 19, 2017 10:59 PM - Neoony: I could start few more instances xD
    Mar 19, 2017 11:01 PM - Scar: well that went well
    Mar 19, 2017 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd say so. Good level games
    Mar 19, 2017 11:08 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Mar 19, 2017 11:10 PM - Scar: maps for next week
    Mar 19, 2017 11:10 PM - Scar: king i hope
    Mar 19, 2017 11:11 PM - A-z-K: theres like a million servers
    Mar 19, 2017 11:11 PM - Scar: Thanks for showing up to the pug everyone i will put on up for next week
    Mar 19, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: where would I put a command that would be executed at the beginning of each map?
    Mar 19, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: for a dedicated server
    Mar 19, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: is it autoexec.cfg?
    Mar 19, 2017 11:37 PM - Thexa4: yes
    Mar 19, 2017 11:37 PM - Thexa4: hm
    Mar 19, 2017 11:37 PM - Thexa4: server.cfg is probably better
    Mar 20, 2017 12:10 AM - vipervicki: good job spike glad it went well
    Mar 20, 2017 1:12 AM - Xyaminou: so I noticed that not all maps have a .cfg file, if I create a .cfg with the map name, will it automatically execute when the map is loaded?
    Mar 20, 2017 1:26 AM - Xyaminou: I'm modifying comm vote time based on the map using the .cfgs. can't believe no one has ever thought about doing that.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:29 AM - vipervicki: yes it will laod you name the file mapname.cfg
    Mar 20, 2017 1:29 AM - vipervicki: load
    Mar 20, 2017 1:30 AM - Xyaminou: yeah, I know, I asked Thexa.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:31 AM - vipervicki: changing comm vote per vote is really uneccesary
    Mar 20, 2017 1:31 AM - vipervicki: per map*
    Mar 20, 2017 1:31 AM - vipervicki: becasue it really depends on populaiton not map
    Mar 20, 2017 1:31 AM - vipervicki: and u cant predict that
    Mar 20, 2017 1:32 AM - Xyaminou: I can since I've also set min/max players for the maps in the mapvote plugin
    Mar 20, 2017 1:32 AM - Xyaminou: so for example midbridge gets 32 players minimum and a vote time of 300
    Mar 20, 2017 1:32 AM - vipervicki: we all set that but u still cant know how many will be on the map
    Mar 20, 2017 1:32 AM - Xyaminou: while crossroads gets 0 to 22 players and 120 comm vote
    Mar 20, 2017 1:33 AM - vipervicki: yes i do that too but
    Mar 20, 2017 1:33 AM - Xyaminou: I can't know, but I can guess. and a game of midbridge should be planned anyhow
    Mar 20, 2017 1:33 AM - vipervicki: if 8 players are on you dont need a long vote time
    Mar 20, 2017 1:33 AM - vipervicki: k try it and see how it works out
    Mar 20, 2017 1:34 AM - Xyaminou: and you're right it never turns out as you expected.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:34 AM - vipervicki: yeah bit worth a try
    Mar 20, 2017 1:34 AM - vipervicki: but*
    Mar 20, 2017 1:34 AM - Xyaminou: but on Wired's server we used to increase the vote time for bigger maps, because they need more planning. So it's at least a little bit of something.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:35 AM - vipervicki: also on csutm maps might need more time large oens for newbies to dld
    Mar 20, 2017 1:35 AM - Xyaminou: I still haven't found which files determines when the mapvote triggers, so still tweaking anyway.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:35 AM - vipervicki: but mvalley wouldnt
    Mar 20, 2017 1:35 AM - Xyaminou: Yes I thought about that.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - Thexa4: How would you like the comm vote to scale with regards to player count?
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - Xyaminou: I may also, eventually, include per map limits of turrets/walls/buildings
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: u can do that as well x
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: u can add any cvar ro map cfgs
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: to
    Mar 20, 2017 1:36 AM - Xyaminou: Well it's not really scaling based on player count, because you could very well play crossroads 32vs32
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - Xyaminou: and that requires 0 planning
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - vipervicki: yeah its hard to predict
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - Xyaminou: so you could have a comm vote of 60 seconds it wouldn't matter.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - Thexa4: if you could have scaling, how would you like it to behave?
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - Xyaminou: commander vote should be based on maps, more chokepoints means more planning.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:37 AM - vipervicki: and downlaod time added too
    Mar 20, 2017 1:38 AM - Xyaminou: I think download time should be left to admins to decide
    Mar 20, 2017 1:38 AM - Thexa4: hm, that's hard to estimate
    Mar 20, 2017 1:38 AM - Xyaminou: otherwise you can't really plan for it.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:38 AM - vipervicki: what is easier is the the plugin where u can quickly adjsut it manually
    Mar 20, 2017 1:39 AM - vipervicki: its psoted on neoonys post
    Mar 20, 2017 1:39 AM - vipervicki: than map per map becasue too much to predict and u jsut cant do that accurately
    Mar 20, 2017 1:40 AM - Xyaminou: well you predict ideal situations and admins are here to fix when the situation is not ideal
    Mar 20, 2017 1:40 AM - Xyaminou: which is probably 90% of the time :D
    Mar 20, 2017 1:40 AM - vipervicki: yup
    Mar 20, 2017 1:51 AM - Xyaminou: just because I want a good laugh, I need a name for the server. Any suggestions?
    Mar 20, 2017 1:51 AM - Xyaminou: something something teamplay only
    Mar 20, 2017 1:52 AM - vipervicki: thats hard coming up with a good name
    Mar 20, 2017 1:52 AM - vipervicki: Xpires
    Mar 20, 2017 1:52 AM - vipervicki: the name smithy made his testing server was funny
    Mar 20, 2017 1:53 AM - vipervicki: blackjack and hookers
    Mar 20, 2017 1:53 AM - Xyaminou: yeah I thought about naming it "actually, forget the blackjack" when he had his server on.
    Mar 20, 2017 1:53 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 1:54 AM - vipervicki: jsut his server needs to be up for that
    Mar 20, 2017 1:54 AM - Xyaminou: oh I know "better than ^ this server"
    Mar 20, 2017 1:54 AM - vipervicki: thats what memhouse does
    Mar 20, 2017 1:54 AM - vipervicki: better than...
    Mar 20, 2017 1:54 AM - Xyaminou: yeah that's what made me thought about it
    Mar 20, 2017 1:55 AM - vipervicki: kinda redundant tho
    Mar 20, 2017 1:55 AM - vipervicki: not original
    Mar 20, 2017 1:56 AM - Xyaminou: I guess I'm just gonna go with Empires: Teamplay
    Mar 20, 2017 1:56 AM - vipervicki: i thought of empires strikes back im usally not good at server names
    Mar 20, 2017 1:56 AM - vipervicki: ok
    Mar 20, 2017 1:56 AM - vipervicki: u can always change it
    Mar 20, 2017 1:57 AM - vipervicki: or usernames thats why i always use my own name
    Mar 20, 2017 1:57 AM - vipervicki: everythign else sounds dumb to me
    Mar 20, 2017 1:57 AM - vipervicki: that I think of
    Mar 20, 2017 2:02 AM - Kidpaler: "Teamplay or ban"
    Mar 20, 2017 2:02 AM - Kidpaler: Thats a great name
    Mar 20, 2017 2:05 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 2:05 AM - vipervicki: theres a minecraft server name generator
    Mar 20, 2017 2:05 AM - vipervicki: tff
    Mar 20, 2017 2:06 AM - Xyaminou: I like it! lol
    Mar 20, 2017 2:10 AM - vipervicki: Teamplay or Don't Play
    Mar 20, 2017 2:12 AM - Xyaminou: also good
    Mar 20, 2017 2:16 AM - Xyaminou: so what did Creeper use to have !addtime "time" on NUBS
    Mar 20, 2017 2:16 AM - Xyaminou: 'cause it had a variable
    Mar 20, 2017 2:16 AM - vipervicki: dont know he coded that so i dont know but i think neony showed that code in his psot but not sure
    Mar 20, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: ill get u the link
    Mar 20, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: noeoony wrote this
    Mar 20, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: !addtime R emp_sv_vote_commander_time 250'
    Mar 20, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: oops
    Mar 20, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: !addtime R emp_sv_vote_commander_time 250
    Mar 20, 2017 2:18 AM - vipervicki: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/plugins.20545/#post-541885
    Mar 20, 2017 2:18 AM - vipervicki: that the link to the plugin and his psot
    Mar 20, 2017 2:19 AM - vipervicki: neoonys not thecreepers
    Mar 20, 2017 2:19 AM - Xyaminou: yeah I know this one, but that's not really what I'm looking for.
    Mar 20, 2017 2:19 AM - vipervicki: then not sure what yur asking
    Mar 20, 2017 2:20 AM - vipervicki: this is the cvar to add time to the comm vote
    Mar 20, 2017 2:20 AM - vipervicki: emp_sv_vote_commander_time
    Mar 20, 2017 2:20 AM - vipervicki: so u can put that in each map.cfg like u said
    Mar 20, 2017 2:21 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah, I know.
    Mar 20, 2017 2:21 AM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 20, 2017 2:21 AM - vipervicki: thecreeper coded his own so i have no idea
     
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    Mar 20, 2017 7:00 AM - Neoony: I will be looking into using custom arguments for !addtime...when I have some time..(wish addtime worked in RL xD )
    Mar 20, 2017 11:36 AM - Neoony: although the guy who made the chat triggers said it should take arguments behind it..a had no lick in my quick test
    Mar 20, 2017 11:36 AM - Neoony: he wrote if you for example have !say C say
    Mar 20, 2017 11:36 AM - Neoony: you should be able to !say Hello! ingame
    Mar 20, 2017 11:37 AM - Neoony: *luck lol
    Mar 20, 2017 11:40 AM - Neoony: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=1247632&postcount=95
    Mar 20, 2017 11:41 AM - Neoony: must test that more..or try yourself mr. x. :P
    Mar 20, 2017 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: tried some stuff, !say F say is the only one that works apparently, or I'm bad.
    Mar 20, 2017 2:48 PM - Xyaminou: is there a .cfg file that executes when a player first joins a team? when the commander vote countdown starts.
    Mar 20, 2017 2:51 PM - Smithy: Dont think so, think it just fires a game event. What are you trying to do?
    Mar 20, 2017 2:58 PM - Xyaminou: Well the thing is, disabling spectator at the start of the map is nice, but if nobody joins it's not going to do anything. So I'd like the timer for disabled spectator to start when someone first joins.
    Mar 20, 2017 3:00 PM - Smithy: You would have to make a plugin that listens for the commander vote game event, then creates the timer when it happens
    Mar 20, 2017 3:00 PM - Smithy: Think that's the only way to achieve what you want without alterations to the game
    Mar 20, 2017 3:01 PM - Smithy: Well, commander vote and wait phase time events (for non-comm maps)
    Mar 20, 2017 3:11 PM - vipervicki: that plugin is broken says so at end of thread
    Mar 20, 2017 3:12 PM - vipervicki: end of the plguins thread
    Mar 20, 2017 4:11 PM - Neoony: i already got a plugin for executing configs at game events
    Mar 20, 2017 4:12 PM - Neoony: also posted it :P
    Mar 20, 2017 4:17 PM - Neoony: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/plugins.20545/#post-541884
    Mar 20, 2017 4:18 PM - Neoony: I tested this one with the player number...didnt try the game events
    Mar 20, 2017 4:20 PM - Neoony: to see events just find your ...\steamapps\common\Empires\empires\resource\modevents.res
    Mar 20, 2017 4:21 PM - Neoony: or here...but not sure if they are updated or if they are different to the file https://wiki.alliedmods.net/Empires_Events
    Mar 20, 2017 4:29 PM - Kidpaler: I think this is quite possibly the first time in my time of actually being involved in this community that it has been nothing but positivity and suggestions on the forums. What the hell happened?
    Mar 20, 2017 4:29 PM - Kidpaler: People are... helping each other. I don't know if I like this.
    Mar 20, 2017 4:31 PM - Neoony: the server war happened
    Mar 20, 2017 4:31 PM - Neoony: and nothing but progress after it
    Mar 20, 2017 4:32 PM - Kidpaler: This is why war is good. Where is world war 3? Nothing but positivity will come from it!
    Mar 20, 2017 4:32 PM - Neoony: xD
    Mar 20, 2017 4:32 PM - vipervicki: i always helped others
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - vipervicki: jsut bevame very choosey after it kicked me in the butt
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: Im not saying you didn't, but there is a stark difference from the forums today compared to 3 months ago
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: Like, EVERYONE is helping EVERYONE, which is weird.
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - Kidpaler: Even MrX is helping people
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - vipervicki: sick i tell ya lol
    Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM - vipervicki: mr x even gave me a smile in text i alsot fainted
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - vipervicki: almost
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: Did you save it? That's some rare shit right there.
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - vipervicki: LOL
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - vipervicki: archived for prosperity
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - vipervicki: neeony i asnwered your post
    Mar 20, 2017 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: We need Empires badges. "MrX smiles"
    Mar 20, 2017 4:35 PM - vipervicki: i was gonna name pires Mr X lol
    Mar 20, 2017 4:35 PM - vipervicki: that would be some bunch of smiles llol
    Mar 20, 2017 4:38 PM - Kidpaler: It's just weird to see such a change in atmosphere around here. The only reason this is happening is because something bad is about to happen.
    Mar 20, 2017 4:38 PM - Kidpaler: I can FEEL it
    Mar 20, 2017 4:38 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: really? i always had the impression when it comes to productive stuff people were generally helpful. you shouldnt draw conclusions from the suggestion forums ... ;)
    Mar 20, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: where*
    Mar 20, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: nono
    Mar 20, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: were sigh
    Mar 20, 2017 4:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i feel so special, mr x smiles to me in text almost regularly
    Mar 20, 2017 4:46 PM - vipervicki: i usally get insulted by him lol
    Mar 20, 2017 4:47 PM - vipervicki: but it never bothers me.
    Mar 20, 2017 4:47 PM - vipervicki: i cant take stuff like that from people who i dont know in rl seriously
    Mar 20, 2017 5:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: kinda wanna do hammer stream
    Mar 20, 2017 5:15 PM - Neoony: hahah i got it
    Mar 20, 2017 5:16 PM - Neoony: "addtimex R emp_sv_vote_commander_time"
    Mar 20, 2017 5:16 PM - Neoony: you can just addtimex 500
    Mar 20, 2017 5:16 PM - Neoony: Iam guessing its the quotes
    Mar 20, 2017 5:16 PM - vipervicki: in admin menu i find its more versatile tho but ty i can use that plugin for other thigns
    Mar 20, 2017 5:18 PM - Neoony: ofc, you set things for yourself
    Mar 20, 2017 5:18 PM - Neoony: its all about settings :P
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: yup and has options and can be redone during 1 comm vote
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: yup setting up a server is no small task
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: its basially a PITA
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - Neoony: this one can also be redone in 1 comm vote
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - Neoony: Like I said it only didnt work cause it was always the same value
    Mar 20, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: good
    Mar 20, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: in menu u can add different time choices
    Mar 20, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: either wya is fine depending what one wants
    Mar 20, 2017 5:20 PM - Neoony: well go ahead and release your edited menu
    Mar 20, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: and give away all my secrets LOL
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - Neoony: not helping :P
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - vipervicki: nah its ez theres a template on sm
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - vipervicki: nothing i made up myself
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - Neoony: I know :P
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - vipervicki: jsut need to know how to read
    Mar 20, 2017 5:21 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:22 PM - Neoony: we can either have every single guy who wants to set up a server go through all the things...or we can make it easy and document empires useful changes
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: but thats up on you
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - vipervicki: here ya go
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - vipervicki: https://wiki.alliedmods.net/Custom_Admin_Menu_(SourceMod)
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - vipervicki: thye need to work at it
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: thats not what I mean, but whatever
    Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM - vipervicki: so thye can appreciate whats involved
    Mar 20, 2017 5:24 PM - vipervicki: see this communtiy has no repsect for server owners in general
    Mar 20, 2017 5:24 PM - Neoony: oh god here we go again xD
    Mar 20, 2017 5:24 PM - vipervicki: so if its handed to them ona platter thye wont know the hours and work and time spent
    Mar 20, 2017 5:24 PM - vipervicki: no im being serious
    Mar 20, 2017 5:24 PM - vipervicki: no compalining jsut stating human nature
    Mar 20, 2017 5:26 PM - vipervicki: but right now tehres no need for more servers tbh
    Mar 20, 2017 5:26 PM - vipervicki: theres a need for more players
    Mar 20, 2017 5:27 PM - Kidpaler: "If you build it, they will come" - population has been improving for two solid weeks. Who knew it was because we just needed more servers, obviously.
    Mar 20, 2017 5:27 PM - vipervicki: lol i dont think thats why but who knows
    Mar 20, 2017 5:28 PM - vipervicki: because only one stays populated at a time usually
    Mar 20, 2017 5:28 PM - vipervicki: but i like the choices becasue each is different
    Mar 20, 2017 5:29 PM - vipervicki: i enjoy lizards server at tiems casue its fun
    Mar 20, 2017 5:30 PM - vipervicki: esb because ts more a serious type of game play memehosue casue of the images and Mr x casue its in europe etc etc
    Mar 20, 2017 5:30 PM - vipervicki: nice having diversity
    Mar 20, 2017 5:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mr x's server will never get players because euros would slam too hard ^^
    Mar 20, 2017 5:33 PM - vipervicki: what do u mean by slam too hard?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:33 PM - Neoony: I wonder how capable would it be with few more players
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - Neoony: as its in his home
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - vipervicki: id go there but hed ban me LOL
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: our average pings would drop by 80-100 ms which is a big big difference
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't think he would
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - vipervicki: lizars is on a home pc and works fine with players
    Mar 20, 2017 5:34 PM - vipervicki: hes had over 10 at times
    Mar 20, 2017 5:35 PM - vipervicki: dont wanan take a chance destoryer lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:35 PM - vipervicki: but we let him play on esb with his alts lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:35 PM - vipervicki: hes not fooling anyone lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:35 PM - vipervicki: but we dont care as long a she beahves
    Mar 20, 2017 5:35 PM - vipervicki: he
    Mar 20, 2017 5:36 PM - vipervicki: im surorised how good lizards server runs with people being his home pc
    Mar 20, 2017 5:36 PM - vipervicki: surprised
    Mar 20, 2017 5:40 PM - Sgt.Security: I played scrims at 350 ping anyway, no fuck was given.
    Mar 20, 2017 5:42 PM - Neoony: xD
    Mar 20, 2017 5:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...and then imagine a taiwan based server
    Mar 20, 2017 5:47 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 5:48 PM - Neoony: empires still handles high ping so much better than many other games
    Mar 20, 2017 5:48 PM - vipervicki: i linked to a full example so anyone can jsut plugin in w/e they want in theirs
    Mar 20, 2017 5:48 PM - Neoony: I wonder if its because of low tickrate
    Mar 20, 2017 5:48 PM - Sgt.Security: [​IMG]
    Mar 20, 2017 5:48 PM - Sgt.Security: Just 302 ping, not enaugh.
    Mar 20, 2017 5:49 PM - Neoony: if I had 100-130 ping in csgo, it would be completely unplayable
    Mar 20, 2017 5:49 PM - Neoony: 100-130 in empires is just fine
    Mar 20, 2017 5:49 PM - Sgt.Security: Try GTA V, the worst game at handling high ping.
    Mar 20, 2017 5:50 PM - Neoony: I stopped bothering with GTA 5 online, because modders/cheaters flood
    Mar 20, 2017 5:50 PM - Neoony: just spawn and wait 5 seconds and woila...odd boxes everywhere, your weapons dissapear
    Mar 20, 2017 5:50 PM - Neoony: just fuck that
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - vipervicki: trickster and I experimented with higher tickrates and didnt work well with empires
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Neoony: p2p xD
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: Neoony, a plugin to add to the list once someone has compiled it: https://github.com/Steell/Ultimate-Mapchooser
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Neoony: yeah, I know...empires goes crazy with higher tickrate
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: creeper already did a pull request to make it work with Empires
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - vipervicki: yeah
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: but I'm too stupid to compile it myself
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Neoony: how it doesnt work?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - vipervicki: its easy X
    Mar 20, 2017 5:51 PM - Neoony: I can do
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: put the sp in the sm version scripts folder
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - Xyaminou: I'm sure it's easy once you know, but I don't know
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I have
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: double clicke the complie.ex
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: exe
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: nd thats it
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - Xyaminou: I have, but it's not doing it
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: i jsut told u how
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: then might be giving u an error
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - Neoony: no use spcomp.exe
    Mar 20, 2017 5:52 PM - vipervicki: whats it sy in cmd?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - Neoony: compile.exe is deprecated
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - Neoony: as misfire told me
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - vipervicki: oh maybe that i didnt look at the dioff exes
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - vipervicki: ok then its diff now sicne viper
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - Xyaminou: I tried with spcomp too
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - vipervicki: check the cmd for any errors
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - Neoony: click and drag the source on it?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:53 PM - Neoony: or yeah
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - Neoony: you might need to open cmd and execute spcom.exe while writing path to the source after it
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - vipervicki: might be missing an icnldue or somehting
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - Neoony: to see errors
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - vipervicki: include
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - vipervicki: usaly it opens automaticly when i used to do it (the cmd)
    Mar 20, 2017 5:54 PM - Neoony: there were couple errors with sourcebot...was thinking of fixing that
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - Xyaminou: it does have one error
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - Neoony: like using deprecated commands and few old ones
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - vipervicki: what it say?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - vipervicki: use mark and copy then paste here
    Mar 20, 2017 5:55 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 20, 2017 5:56 PM - vipervicki: do you have umc_core in the plugjins folder?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:56 PM - vipervicki: umc-core
    Mar 20, 2017 5:56 PM - vipervicki: if not put it in
    Mar 20, 2017 5:56 PM - vipervicki: it needs that to compile the other
    Mar 20, 2017 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: I do
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - vipervicki: hmm
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - vipervicki: and u have the sp file too?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - vipervicki: for umc-core?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - vipervicki: in scritps folder?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - vipervicki: then i dunno sorry
    Mar 20, 2017 5:57 PM - Neoony: ima try
    Mar 20, 2017 5:58 PM - vipervicki: did it make a new folder with plguins?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:58 PM - vipervicki: or did nothing
    Mar 20, 2017 5:58 PM - vipervicki: ok neenoy
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - vipervicki: neoony*
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - Neoony: same
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - Neoony: ima check what updater it wants
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - vipervicki: what version sm are u using?
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - vipervicki: theres an sm updater but i dont use that
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - Neoony: huh #include <updater>
    Mar 20, 2017 5:59 PM - vipervicki: it supposed to update plugins when a new one is released but sicne empires is a pita with sm i wont use it
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - vipervicki: i said it might need an include
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - Neoony: well its gone now
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - vipervicki: whats gone?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - Neoony: compile done
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - vipervicki: good
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - Neoony: deleted updater code
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 6:00 PM - vipervicki: but iwoud nt recommend isntalling the updater on a server
    Mar 20, 2017 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: good solution
    Mar 20, 2017 6:01 PM - vipervicki: would not
    Mar 20, 2017 6:01 PM - Neoony: oh god, its in other files too
    Mar 20, 2017 6:01 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 6:01 PM - vipervicki: get it out of your trash
    Mar 20, 2017 6:02 PM - vipervicki: and hold onto it
    Mar 20, 2017 6:02 PM - Xyaminou: show it who's boss
    Mar 20, 2017 6:02 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 6:02 PM - Xyaminou: btw creeper only updated core and endvote so you don't need to recompile all files
    Mar 20, 2017 6:02 PM - Xyaminou: just these 2
    Mar 20, 2017 6:03 PM - vipervicki: x u shud get that include for your own stuff too in case hes not arund
    Mar 20, 2017 6:03 PM - vipervicki: around
    Mar 20, 2017 6:03 PM - Xyaminou: get what?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:03 PM - vipervicki: the updater include that stopped it from compiling
    Mar 20, 2017 6:04 PM - flasche: whats that another server? FLGaming?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:04 PM - flasche: whos that?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:04 PM - vipervicki: in scripts folder wher eu compile theres an include folder
    Mar 20, 2017 6:05 PM - vipervicki: 60 tickrate hmmnto sure thats a good idea
    Mar 20, 2017 6:05 PM - vipervicki: flgaming i gues sis a clan
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - Xyaminou: I don't really know how to edit the files I'm just gonna let neoony do it.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: seems there are other errors in other files
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/bdb42b3d22d988c68546f2a3b3603f62.png
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - vipervicki: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy0p_mTsKYAEIlQ7_9dX3uQ
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - vipervicki: heir youtube channel
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - vipervicki: k ..x
    Mar 20, 2017 6:06 PM - Neoony: oh I missed your message xD
    Mar 20, 2017 6:07 PM - Neoony: kk only those 2
    Mar 20, 2017 6:07 PM - vipervicki: from the firsterror neeony looks like a plugin is missing for it to compile
    Mar 20, 2017 6:07 PM - Neoony: but right...the end vote errors xD
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - Neoony: da fuck
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - Neoony: #undef REQUIRE_PLUGIN
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - vipervicki: yeh i said
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - Neoony: no plugin stated
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - vipervicki: look at the plugin on sm and see what else it needs
    Mar 20, 2017 6:08 PM - Neoony: wth is undef
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - Thexa4: finally a non-local server with 5ms ping :)
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - vipervicki: the plugins sually tell wht other oens it needs to work
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - vipervicki: usually
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - vipervicki: but 60 tickrate?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - vipervicki: not sure about that
    Mar 20, 2017 6:09 PM - Thexa4: it'll work, but probably not with 64 players
    Mar 20, 2017 6:10 PM - vipervicki: a couple of years agome and trickster tired different tickrates..none worked too well
    Mar 20, 2017 6:10 PM - vipervicki: besides 33
    Mar 20, 2017 6:10 PM - vipervicki: tried
    Mar 20, 2017 6:10 PM - Xyaminou: hmm, slay still crashes my server
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - Neoony: shit nvm...I accidentally added 2 at once into compile lol
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: hm, hold on
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - vipervicki: first off slay doesnt work
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - vipervicki: unless you made a trigger for it it shudnt crash your server
    Mar 20, 2017 6:11 PM - vipervicki: u need !slap nmae 100 to slay someone
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: nope, still crashing
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - vipervicki: name*
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - Neoony: so X you only need umc-core and umc-endvote?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: yes neoony
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - Neoony: uploading
    Mar 20, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: most likely...
    Mar 20, 2017 6:14 PM - Neoony: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2i1e6ngvc1nie10/UMC-emp-updaterless.rar?dl=0
    Mar 20, 2017 6:15 PM - Neoony: you somehow did this for sm_slay? https://forums.empiresmod.com/index...d-sourcemod-vtable-offsets.20571/#post-541992
    Mar 20, 2017 6:15 PM - Neoony: seems offsets need fixing for slay
    Mar 20, 2017 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: Yes thexa updated it.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: talking to him right now
    Mar 20, 2017 6:16 PM - Neoony: I still need to fix my missing linux libraries to be able to generate that thing...dont wanna bother now :P
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Neoony: so what was broken with UMC? I thought people were using it?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Neoony: or only some feature?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Xyaminou: it had no hook into the trigger for end game
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Xyaminou: so nothing triggered the vote at the end
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Neoony: oh..right...thats why the no end map vote thing
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Xyaminou: also I just tested it and... doesn't seem to be working.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:22 PM - Xyaminou: maybe I'm doing something wrong.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:23 PM - Neoony: like error on load?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:23 PM - Neoony: or no end map vote?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:23 PM - Xyaminou: no end map vote
    Mar 20, 2017 6:24 PM - Neoony: no errors in console?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:25 PM - Neoony: also do "sm plugins list"
    Mar 20, 2017 6:25 PM - Neoony: and check whats loaded
    Mar 20, 2017 6:27 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't seem to be any errors and plugins does list all stuff
    Mar 20, 2017 6:28 PM - Neoony: i see the source of endvote points to HookEventEx("game_end",
    Mar 20, 2017 6:28 PM - Xyaminou: http://pastebin.com/2xMmZvbr
    Mar 20, 2017 6:28 PM - Neoony: but in modevents.res its empires_round_over
    Mar 20, 2017 6:29 PM - Neoony: dunno if thats right
    Mar 20, 2017 6:29 PM - Neoony: this is creepers right?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:29 PM - Neoony: hmm trigger time already passed.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:30 PM - Xyaminou: I mean I'm assuming he knows what he was doing.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:30 PM - Xyaminou: don't know to be honest
    Mar 20, 2017 6:30 PM - Xyaminou: brb
    Mar 20, 2017 6:32 PM - Neoony: just wanted to know if he tested it? its supposed to work?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:33 PM - Neoony: and also...how do you test it? you change the timeleft somehow? maybe you somehow skip the trigger
    Mar 20, 2017 6:33 PM - Neoony: cause: https://i.gyazo.com/cb9725c2bbde7b4f7501c8c3ddb68771.png
    Mar 20, 2017 6:34 PM - Xyaminou: I killed the CV
    Mar 20, 2017 6:35 PM - Xyaminou: I don't even know if I configured it right, so...
    Mar 20, 2017 6:35 PM - Xyaminou: don't know anything really.
    Mar 20, 2017 6:37 PM - Neoony: maybe I will try myself later
    Mar 20, 2017 6:42 PM - vipervicki: X from what I hear wired has end of mapvote ask them to help
    Mar 20, 2017 6:43 PM - vipervicki: i had a beginning mapvoteso cant help :(
    Mar 20, 2017 6:46 PM - Xyaminou: he does, but it's the default SM mapvote plugin with barely any config option and smithy already gave me the file
    Mar 20, 2017 6:47 PM - vipervicki: oh not umc?
    Mar 20, 2017 6:47 PM - vipervicki: yeh umc is much better
    Mar 20, 2017 7:03 PM - vipervicki: what we need is a plugin that changes map when one team has no comm..someone make that
    Mar 20, 2017 7:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: triggering a mapvote instead should work better
    Mar 20, 2017 7:05 PM - vipervicki: that too
    Mar 20, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: ican figure out everyhting excpet how to check if theres no comm
    Mar 20, 2017 7:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mass effect ready drivers are out
    Mar 20, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: whats the event for checking for a comm?
    Mar 20, 2017 7:08 PM - vipervicki: nvm found it
    Mar 20, 2017 7:25 PM - Neoony: hmm...the umc-endvote error doesnt seem to happen with infantry map like district
    Mar 20, 2017 7:25 PM - Neoony: hmmm
    Mar 20, 2017 7:35 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 7:40 PM - flasche: sounds like catholicism to me
    Mar 20, 2017 7:41 PM - flasche: dont do shit, but if you do shit repent and pray
    Mar 20, 2017 7:41 PM - A-z-K: Shut up
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: meh all religions sound equally stupid
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - A-z-K: nterrupting my chanting time
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - flasche: ikr
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - A-z-K: What is the best way to chant McDonalds?
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - flasche: you interrupted it
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - flasche: now chant again for forgiveness
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - A-z-K: Shit
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - flasche: sinner
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - flasche: shame
    Mar 20, 2017 7:42 PM - A-z-K: This is hard
    Mar 20, 2017 7:43 PM - flasche: shame
    Mar 20, 2017 7:43 PM - A-z-K: I've let you all down
    Mar 20, 2017 7:43 PM - flasche: shame
    Mar 20, 2017 7:44 PM - flasche: its your afterlife
    Mar 20, 2017 7:44 PM - flasche: you are gonna be eaten by the not so nice bugs
    Mar 20, 2017 7:44 PM - flasche: well i will be too
    Mar 20, 2017 7:45 PM - flasche: i bet well see eachother in hell
    Mar 20, 2017 7:45 PM - flasche: having a party
    Mar 20, 2017 7:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm coming too
    Mar 20, 2017 7:49 PM - A-z-K: Listen I've no time for all that dying, I don't even know what I'm havinbg for dinner yet
    Mar 20, 2017 7:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dying takes too much time man
    Mar 20, 2017 7:50 PM - A-z-K: Also it is my final wish that I be cremated and shot into space, so that thie planet can't profit from my constituent atoms.
    Mar 20, 2017 7:52 PM - flasche: but what if pascal had it right?
    Mar 20, 2017 7:53 PM - A-z-K: I highly doubt that
    Mar 20, 2017 7:54 PM - A-z-K: My revised theory of probability says I am probably right
    Mar 20, 2017 7:55 PM - flasche: haha
    Mar 20, 2017 7:56 PM - flasche: is it like "1. i am always right 2. if i am not, see 1?"
    Mar 20, 2017 7:57 PM - A-z-K: Well that is the long version yes
    Mar 20, 2017 7:58 PM - A-z-K: Experimentally it has yet to be disproven..... to me.
    Mar 20, 2017 7:59 PM - flasche: perfectly scientific
    Mar 20, 2017 8:00 PM - A-z-K: ahh yeah. scientifically speaking I need a salad, but candidly speaking, I'm going to get a pizza
    Mar 20, 2017 8:01 PM - flasche: even you cannot withstand the normative power of the de facto
    Mar 20, 2017 8:02 PM - flasche: salad is for cows
    Mar 20, 2017 8:03 PM - flasche: or guinea pigs
    Mar 20, 2017 8:03 PM - flasche: unless ofc its potato salad, but only with schnitzel
    Mar 20, 2017 8:04 PM - A-z-K: oooo, schnitzel. Naa I can't be bothered to cook
    Mar 20, 2017 8:04 PM - A-z-K: Why are there no schnitzel take away joints here
    Mar 20, 2017 8:05 PM - Kidpaler: Hey I need help real quick. I found a picture of this placed called "wales" and I wanted to know if this is accurate
    Mar 20, 2017 8:06 PM - Kidpaler: [​IMG]
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - vipervicki: we have holy schnitzel right near me ill have them delvierry to you
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - flasche: thats a market gap AzK
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - A-z-K: Yeah thats bang on the money, but it doesn't do justice to Wales really
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - vipervicki: deliver
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - vipervicki: tons of different items with schnitzels
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - A-z-K: It's much, much worse in real life. Thanks Vicki! I'll keep an eye out for the delivery man
    Mar 20, 2017 8:08 PM - vipervicki: lol k
    Mar 20, 2017 8:09 PM - vipervicki: my treat
    Mar 20, 2017 8:09 PM - flasche: holy schnitzel
    Mar 20, 2017 8:09 PM - flasche: i like that name
    Mar 20, 2017 8:09 PM - Xyaminou: Vicki, you have access to misfire's server right?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:09 PM - A-z-K: Ooo thankyou!
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - vipervicki: ive been trying to learn somehting in photshop and its driving me nuts so many steps i get jsut about to the end and I cant seem to get the result
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - vipervicki: in a manner of speaking x why?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - Kidpaler: I like how we are all logged in, but we all have it hidden so we can't see each other that we are logged in.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: can you send me the addons and cfg folders from his server?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:10 PM - vipervicki: hahaha funny man X
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - vipervicki: how about I jsut zip up the entire server fiels and send them to you
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: sounds good.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - vipervicki: k brt
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - flasche: yeah why am i hidden
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - flasche: did i do that?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:11 PM - vipervicki: im hidden since viper
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - vipervicki: in this place u can run but ya cant hide
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - Xyaminou: and we wonder why Empires' community is disfunctional..
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - vipervicki: x what do u need help with?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - flasche: well you could just be ignorant aswell
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - flasche: that works quite well for me
    Mar 20, 2017 8:12 PM - flasche: usually
    Mar 20, 2017 8:13 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: UMC3 is not working, but you're clearly not willing to help, so move on.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:13 PM - vipervicki: omg ive been helping u sicne last night u ingrate
    Mar 20, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:14 PM - vipervicki: ok i wont help u anymore thats fine with me
    Mar 20, 2017 8:14 PM - Xyaminou: Yes because you were so useful.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:14 PM - vipervicki: u just always confirm what an asshole u are
    Mar 20, 2017 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: lol tell me something I don't know and then look in the mirror
    Mar 20, 2017 8:15 PM - vipervicki: and then thye wonder why i becoem choosey who to help
    Mar 20, 2017 8:15 PM - Kidpaler: Theres the Empires I remember.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: Oh I'm sorry have you ever actually help anyone else set a server? no, you haven't.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to be frank, a lot of .res and .cfg files are lost now because you couldn't download them off of nubs, and the creators are long gone
    Mar 20, 2017 8:16 PM - vipervicki: yes I have but dont care if u beeive it or not
    Mar 20, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - vipervicki: ask msifire for both his servers ask walmart and a couple of others i forget sicne u are so insignficant to me
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - Kidpaler: Walmart?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - vipervicki: yeah walmart greeter
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - vipervicki: remeber im?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - vipervicki: exe clan or somehting or gentleman clan
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - Xyaminou: You're just so hilarious, I don't know how you do it.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:17 PM - Kidpaler: I dont remember many people because all I did was use to come on and play and then get off. Never gave a crap really where I was playing
    Mar 20, 2017 8:18 PM - Kidpaler: Was never involved in the community, just liked the game.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:18 PM - vipervicki: okx i guess u r bored or frustrated so its time to insult vicki entertain yourself
    Mar 20, 2017 8:18 PM - Xyaminou: oh I don't have to do that you took care of that all by yourself
    Mar 20, 2017 8:19 PM - vipervicki: ok fine w/e u say becasue we all know the greatness of X
    Mar 20, 2017 8:19 PM - Xyaminou: I know, I'm famous.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:20 PM - vipervicki: infamous is more like it
    Mar 20, 2017 8:20 PM - Xyaminou: can't say I know the difference.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: DT was starting to get worried everyone was too nice
    Mar 20, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: X came back and reassured me the community is the same, don't worry.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:20 PM - vipervicki: he started not me lol i think he has the hots for me alot of sexual tension always attacking me lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - Xyaminou: ah yes, I asked for files, oh god I'm evil, my bad.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - Kidpaler: Bad X, Bad.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - vipervicki: thats not how u started
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - vipervicki: u started isnutling me as always
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - vipervicki: who cares your jsut an X
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - Xyaminou: Ah yes, poor Vicki.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:21 PM - Kidpaler: Guys, guys, guys. Stop it. Just read that new post by Palaao and lets love each other.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - vipervicki: lol yeah
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - vipervicki: X sorry to disapouint you but u mean nothing to me as does your attacks
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - Xyaminou: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - vipervicki: to quote someone your jsut an angry frnechman
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - Xyaminou: how will I live with myself
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - A-z-K: yawn
    Mar 20, 2017 8:22 PM - vipervicki: im sure you will find a way
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - Xyaminou: what if I don't
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - vipervicki: I mr X needs to get laid i think
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - Kidpaler: hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - vipervicki: kumbaya
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - Xyaminou: are you proposing?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - A-z-K: I'll fuck ya X
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - A-z-K: Lets go
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - vipervicki: not in any lifetime
    Mar 20, 2017 8:23 PM - vipervicki: yeh azk will do ya
    Mar 20, 2017 8:24 PM - vipervicki: but azk
    Mar 20, 2017 8:24 PM - A-z-K: we can flip a coin
    Mar 20, 2017 8:24 PM - Xyaminou: I somehow doubt a-z-k is a woman
    Mar 20, 2017 8:24 PM - vipervicki: I DONT WAN HIM U TAKE HIM
    Mar 20, 2017 8:25 PM - A-z-K: I'm too much woman for you X, you wouldn't know what to do with all this. Uh-uh, ohh no you di-unt gurlfriend
    Mar 20, 2017 8:25 PM - vipervicki: haha
    Mar 20, 2017 8:25 PM - Xyaminou: I take it back, you clearly are.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:26 PM - A-z-K: yeah that'll do pet, OK, I'm going to get food. Try not to bang any dudes whilst I'm gone
    Mar 20, 2017 8:26 PM - A-z-K: You're all mine sweeet caaaakes
    Mar 20, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: cute
    Mar 20, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: I'm cringing pretty hard right now.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:27 PM - flasche: 10 ave krishnas for you
    Mar 20, 2017 8:28 PM - flasche: or hare marias your choice
    Mar 20, 2017 8:28 PM - flasche: or one hakuna matata
    Mar 20, 2017 8:29 PM - Kidpaler: Can I sing one baba yetu instead?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:30 PM - flasche: only if you build nukes first
    Mar 20, 2017 8:30 PM - flasche: and are ghandi
    Mar 20, 2017 8:30 PM - Kidpaler: I find that glitch to be the funniest glitch in all of gaming.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:33 PM - flasche: wait the text is the pater noster?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:33 PM - flasche: :o
    Mar 20, 2017 8:36 PM - vipervicki: the reilgious psot is gone
    Mar 20, 2017 8:36 PM - vipervicki: at least it wasnt a blackhole post
    Mar 20, 2017 8:36 PM - flasche: but what about our salvation now?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - vipervicki: we r doomed
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - Kidpaler: Mods obviously dont care about us.
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - vipervicki: i think thye are saying there is no hope for us anyway
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - flasche: sure you needed to go to that page and throw money at some writer
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - flasche: bam
    Mar 20, 2017 8:37 PM - flasche: salvation
    Mar 20, 2017 8:38 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 8:38 PM - flasche: you dont understand religion vicki
    Mar 20, 2017 8:38 PM - vipervicki: seems so :(
    Mar 20, 2017 8:39 PM - vipervicki: i hope azk got his delviery i sent
    Mar 20, 2017 8:39 PM - vipervicki: delivery*
    Mar 20, 2017 8:39 PM - vipervicki: i would ship NY bagles to a friend who lived in kansas he loved them
    Mar 20, 2017 8:40 PM - vipervicki: cant get a good bagel outside of NY
    Mar 20, 2017 8:41 PM - Xyaminou: so what's the difference between emp_temple_b3a and emp_temple_b3b? only the air bubble fixed?
    Mar 20, 2017 8:42 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause it's not worth losing lighting over a stupid air bubble
    Mar 20, 2017 8:43 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Discord Please...
    Mar 20, 2017 8:43 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Y u no work
    Mar 20, 2017 8:46 PM - flasche: its in its name
    Mar 20, 2017 8:46 PM - flasche: its in a discord with itself
    Mar 20, 2017 8:47 PM - flasche: why this is a good name for a chat solution escapes me to this day
    Mar 20, 2017 8:48 PM - vipervicki: actually that name fits these forums better
    Mar 20, 2017 8:59 PM - Xyaminou: by the way Flasche, you should include the ref output for refineries on drygulch
    Mar 20, 2017 9:06 PM - flasche: its all 1
    Mar 20, 2017 9:06 PM - Xyaminou: True, but if we're going to set a standard it should be done nevertheless.
    Mar 20, 2017 9:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have the temple vmf and i don't see what would cause the problems
    Mar 20, 2017 9:07 PM - flasche: i agree, but i think you sadly cannot simply update the minimaps
    Mar 20, 2017 9:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you get me b3a so that i can look at what's different between the two versions?
    Mar 20, 2017 9:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche, you can update the file and anyone who downloads it afterwards will still be able to join but they'll see a different minimap
    Mar 20, 2017 9:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plus, people who know/care can delete the file
    Mar 20, 2017 9:08 PM - flasche: well sure i could do that
    Mar 20, 2017 9:09 PM - Xyaminou: errr shit
    Mar 20, 2017 9:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: did you accidentally b3a
    Mar 20, 2017 9:09 PM - Xyaminou: looks like I overwrote the archive I uploaded to google drive with all my maps with a new one :(
    Mar 20, 2017 9:09 PM - flasche: infact everyone could do it, just open the vtf with vtfedit, export as png, edit, reimport and save as vtf
    Mar 20, 2017 9:09 PM - Xyaminou: gonna need to reupload
    Mar 20, 2017 9:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche, yeah, editing materials is good to know, so that you can fullbright those annoying mines and hides ^^
    Mar 20, 2017 9:10 PM - flasche: pah fullbright
     
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    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:10 PM - flasche: replace them with pink
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: even better
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - flasche: and add $alpha 0.6 to all other textures
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - flasche: ;)
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - flasche: except playermodels ofc
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i feel like that'd be really confusing for a good while
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - flasche: its not that bad i actually have tried it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wonder how many players would suddenly get worse "for no reason at all" with sv_pure
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:12 PM - flasche: not for all textures tho, but i added it to the district mats
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:12 PM - flasche: have never played on a server with it tho
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:13 PM - flasche: also zoom said it will lag, which is probably not wrong
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:14 PM - Xyaminou: I think someone said sv_pure doesn't work.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 PM - flasche: trickster said it works but servers need a few minutes to restart if they crash
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 PM - flasche: that was versions ago tho
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 PM - flasche: that was sv_pure 2 (i think) tho
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 PM - Xyaminou: well if it does I'd put it on my server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Xyaminou: althought now that I think about that would mean using the new sounds wouldn't it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Xyaminou: maybe tweak it so it doesn't include sounds
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM - flasche: thats the point about sv_pure 2
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM - flasche: you can whitelist folders
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM - flasche: or maybe its sv_pure 1 idk, 2 sounds more reasonable to me
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:17 PM - Xyaminou: so for some reason my livingroom computer only uploads at 1.1MB/s
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:17 PM - flasche: one only allows original files, the other also allows whitelisted folders and files
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think 2 enforces 100% vanilla compatibility and 1 refers to a file listing the pure-covered items
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:17 PM - flasche: k , then its 1
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:18 PM - flasche: yeah its 1 you want. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Pure_Servers
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:19 PM - flasche: it also explains how to whitelist
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:20 PM - flasche: but better check back with someone who actually knows this shit. i only repeat what trickster said years back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:20 PM - Xyaminou: it's still low priority
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i swapped jeepjoust's nf jeeps for LTs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i just had this thought
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: how about i use heavies
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - Kidpaler: Give them all nuke machineguns
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - flasche: nf heavies vs be jeeps?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:21 PM - Xyaminou: why not CVs while you're at it.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:22 PM - flasche: oh yeah do that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:22 PM - flasche: cv joust
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: Wouldn't you have to rename it then to Heavyvsjeep joust
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's already renamed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i can't do all CVs, the game ends when a CV is destroyed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not when all of them go
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i'm quite seriously considering this
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: asymmetrical balance
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - flasche: is it possible the nf cv flips when it falls?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes but i have yet to get it to stay down
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: both CVs keep flipping back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: well the nf one can be on its back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: if it lands at exactly 180 degrees
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, now the second level has a push field that shoves everything towards the middle
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no more cheesing it by ramming the corner
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:25 PM - Xyaminou: NF had their CV flipped the other day
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvmenbgnrhl5h30/commjoust_intro1.wav?dl=0
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: regardless of the flipping ability, there's enough vehicles going around to push it back upright
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM - flasche: then where is the problem with all cvs?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM - flasche: the first one to fall loses
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think that'd favor BE an awful lot
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:28 PM - flasche: same same
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:29 PM - Kidpaler: can you make the push at the second level stronger the further away from center you get?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't follow
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: bu ti think it works like this already
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:31 PM - Xyaminou: I wonder if I should reduce default tickets on certain maps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:31 PM - Xyaminou: I already normalized a couple low pop maps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:33 PM - Xyaminou: too bad everything that I'm doing will probably turn out useless because server supremacists.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:33 PM - Xyaminou: well not useless, just unused.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:41 PM - Kidpaler: That and as of now I think more Americans play... and there really arent enough people for more than 1 server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: catalog changes and release them as a big pack
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:46 PM - Xyaminou: hmm badlands only has 8 refs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: other maps had 12 total
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Kidpaler: Badlands is also broken
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: so either it's gonna be 4 behind or 4 ahead
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: it's not that badly broken
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: it'd be low pop anyhow
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM - Xyaminou: but yeah I might not include it.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM - Xyaminou: I'm also debating including atoll or not
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:49 PM - Kidpaler: was that the map that sinks.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:49 PM - Xyaminou: it's sinking, without sinking.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM - Xyaminou: it was, but hasn't for a long time.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM - Xyaminou: now it's just the spend 5 minutes to get to center map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM - Xyaminou: nothing too interesting about it to be honest
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's very eh without the sinking aspect
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and not that well designed anyways imo
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:52 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah, agreed. removed.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - Xyaminou: so, 200 tickets or 100 tickets for 0 to 22 players maps?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - flasche: what happened to sinking
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - flasche: i had 1 awesome game on it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - Xyaminou: including but not limited to, crossroads, drygulch, beachfront, downfall.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: OB happened ^^
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM - flasche: and that was like really awesome
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: iceberg has 100 on each side, i think that works out well
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:55 PM - flasche: drygulch has 320 tickets
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - Xyaminou: oh right, iceberg, about that...
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - flasche: it was agreed upon on the forums
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I already reduced drygulch's tickets to 200
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - Kidpaler: Someone remake sinking.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: _a3 hasn't been played properly yet
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - flasche: i wanted to do 9999 tickets but listened to the people
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - Xyaminou: just wondering if I should make it really interesting and make it 100
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i still have no feedback past "it's ugly", which i agree with
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Xyaminou: it'd certainly make low pop maps end faster, especially if they get more players, which is good.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Kidpaler: X, you are making a hardcore server, for Europe, in a game where people have trouble learning the basics
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Kidpaler: :/
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lel, hardcore
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM - flasche: as long as you are willing to change it if its not working out, do as you please
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM - Xyaminou: I'm making an Empires server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM - flasche: im no fan of running out of tickets it brings forth the worst of empires
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Xyaminou: havoc
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - flasche: unless its a map that relies on it like all those infantry maps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Xyaminou: possible infantry map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: havoc never stuck for a couple reasons
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one, it requires tanks to play a support role to infantry
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - flasche: it has so weird tank layouts
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: two, lvl3 MGs hidden behind trees
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - flasche: i wonder if its due to 3slot weapons
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - flasche: be heavy has 2x hemg
    Mar 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it might actually be borked nowadays because of the new weapon additions
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - flasche: nf heavy has 1x upgraded ranged cn and std cn
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh yeah that's broken
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - Xyaminou: right
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - flasche: but you could entspy edit that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - Xyaminou: nope, it's an infantry map, not worth it.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - flasche: ^
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can act high and mighty, but infantry maps have their place, and fixing that takes five minutes of finding the correct weapon ID values
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM - Xyaminou: emp_blast?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM - Xyaminou: I'm lazy destroyer
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:02 PM - flasche: which one is blast?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it'd be okay were it not tfor the underground level which is way too disconnected from the main level
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i share the lazy sentiment, but this is the point where i remind you of how much effort you already put into setting up a server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Xyaminou: blast is indoor infantry map with swimming pool
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: meh
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: swimming pool teleports have been entspy'd out in the latest version
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: even more meh then
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Xyaminou: I barely put any effort into it to be honest
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 PM - flasche: and yes the map would be okish without the underground passage
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not true, and this shoutbox stands witness
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can probably entspy out the underground control point
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Xyaminou: oh well if 4h of on and off counts as a lot of effort then I stand corrected.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: then it becomes an extremely long flanking route
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 4 hours sounds like jeepjoust to me
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Xyaminou: emp_alphinerush?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that adds up
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: commander map that plays heroes 3 combat music in NW and SE corners
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: arty heaven, extremely tight and very unpleasant with a team that doesn't coordinate
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Xyaminou: nothing special about it and navigating with tanks quickly becomes problematic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pretty much
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Xyaminou: now here's a tough one
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Xyaminou: atomic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: atomic is awesome on high pop
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it might be the only commanderless high pop map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: it is.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - flasche: which one is atomic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - flasche: omg i forgot all the maps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the problem is, it never gets played
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: chris' map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: the greatest infantry map ever. by chris, obviously.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - flasche: also, what does it matter to have a lot of maps if you have voting
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM - flasche: its gonna be the same shit 4 maps anyway
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: very well interconnected, great variance of terrain, amazing detail
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM - flasche: still cant make a picture
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM - flasche: ah that one
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM - flasche: halfpipe map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's fantastic for squad play
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM - flasche: its sexy aswell
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM - flasche: would be a shame if its not on the server but wont see the light of day because hey we could play another round of money
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: lets vote it quick
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Xyaminou: money won't be on the server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it never gets nominated; people largely don't know about its existence
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: alternatively slaughtered
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Xyaminou: no money no escort no stupid maps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: or district
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: or whatdoiknow
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and when it does get in, it gets played with low or medium pop, so battles are sporadic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Xyaminou: district is 10 players max
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: empires players only want maps they know in and out
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Xyaminou: and slaughtered is 32 I think
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: district needs some changes to avoid stalemates
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and a 15 minute version
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Xyaminou: which might be lowered or slaughtered might even be removed in favor of massacred.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Xyaminou: district is 10 minutes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Xyaminou: 5s respawn
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Xyaminou: might also halve the tickets
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: short respawns will make certain flags a real grind to capture
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's enough of a problem already
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: trust me I'm doing everything to prevent peopel from voting stupidly
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: are you going to disable spec xya?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: like permanently
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: or at least for the first 10minutes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: not permanantly
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: or smthg really unpleasant
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Xyaminou: right now it's set to disable for comm vote length
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: u need spec when theres no rax and players are dead
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Xyaminou: which varies depending on the map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no you don't
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - flasche: no you dont
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Xyaminou: also, no you don't Vicki.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: but that was for flashce not mr x becasue i dont help him
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dead players just sit there and wait for the last few minutes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - flasche: we only "need" specs because server owners have no balls to remove them
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: nah thye sually join spec
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Xyaminou: either that means the round is about to end, or they should not quit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM - vipervicki: usually
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM - flasche: tbh spec should be hardcode removed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM - flasche: everyone hates devs anyway dont they? :P
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM - flasche: so nothing lost
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM - vipervicki: then there wud be alot less players in the servers
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there should be a specatating feature, it should not be as prominent as it is
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - Xyaminou: well it should be changed into a module
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - Xyaminou: so you either launch spectating, or the game.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: all that only means there will be server that has spec so all the spec kids come spec
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - Xyaminou: but you can't just switch between the two willy nelly, you'd have to restart game and such
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: which forces alls erver to have it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: which is bs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - flasche: or at least dont let specs talk and show them a black screen
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: we already know which server it is flasche
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: gettting rid if spec wont force players to play
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - flasche: spec is the cancer of empires
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: I think the 2 weeks on wired's server proved the opposite
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - flasche: nothing lost
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: getting rid of spec, does in fact force players to play
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - flasche: the only reason why spec is useufly is for admins
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: and they're happy to
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - vipervicki: maybe a few but not all
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they either play or leave and the playercount isn't artificially inflated
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - vipervicki: well try it and see
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - vipervicki: keep it clsoed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Xyaminou: "maybe a few but not all", I'm sure that's why we played 28vs28...
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Xyaminou: we have tried
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Xyaminou: for 2 weeks
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it was tried, we saw
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - vipervicki: oh i forgot x u know everyhting im sorry
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Xyaminou: point already proven
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: Oh I know a very small amount, it only seems huge to you because you're so stupid and ignorant.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - vipervicki: not long term i doubt it it was a new server people were hyped
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: Yes, there's always an excuse.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - vipervicki: u r so boring
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: I'm sure if we ran it for a year you'd still have some stupid excuse.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - vipervicki: same crap cant even come up with better insults
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: then leave the shoutbox, we were doing just fine without you.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - flasche: sigh
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - vipervicki: leave empires as most want
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - flasche: stahp it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the sudden ad hominem stuff doesn't help your position at all
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - flasche: both of you
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Xyaminou: Yes I'm known to do what people want.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche i'm a third party
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - vipervicki: boring x now go take a nap
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the third party is curious if y ou'd like to 1v1 them on commjoust
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: see how the new second level works
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM - flasche: can do
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM - Xyaminou: keep trying destroyer lol
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM - flasche: the fourth party agrees
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM - Xyaminou: alright atomic will be included for 32 to 64 players
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM - Xyaminou: I just don't remember how long it usually lasts
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay give me a minute to pack the archive
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM - flasche: third party, where is server?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: trying what
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM - flasche: :D
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Xyaminou: it also means atomic will be in all the votes when 32 or more players are on
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Xyaminou: until it gets played
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:24 PM - vipervicki: the new euro server has a good pin 90 for me
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:24 PM - vipervicki: the one in uk
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Xyaminou: and then won't be for 4 votes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:24 PM - flasche: sounds decent
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:25 PM - flasche: i really miss map cycles, you at least got to play a variation of maps if you stayed on for a couple of hours
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:25 PM - flasche: nowerdays you can be sure to play certain maps twice or even three times
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dobz7t7aoxt6w2/emp_commjoust_a2.rar?dl=0
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:26 PM - Xyaminou: well that's because currently wired's server doesn't use UMC3 so I don't know if he can even lock out maps that have been played
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:26 PM - Xyaminou: and if he can, he hasn't set it high enough.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM - Xyaminou: and from what I've seen of NUBS 2.0 it doesn't seem to have any player limits to maps and crashed which led to locked out maps being available
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: server's up, archive's up there, you know the drill
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM - Xyaminou: right now my config is set to lock out the past 4 maps but I might increase that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM - vipervicki: u cant see shit on esb so dont speculate
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM - Xyaminou: just need to figure out how many maps I have for each possible amount of players
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: lol Vicki, you're pathetic.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: once I have that figured out I can set it as high as possible
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM - vipervicki: it has min and max limits u
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: to form something similar to a mapcycle, where players can just decide in which order they want to play.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM - vipervicki: if someone like u thogut highly of me id worry
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM - vipervicki: thought*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM - Xyaminou: well it's obviously not very well done since crossroads popped up when there were 50+ people
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:30 PM - vipervicki: i still need to tweak it been bsuy getting maps on plugins and cfging other files
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:31 PM - Xyaminou: you do realise a long time ago I made a spreadsheet with perfectly viable playercounts for each maps, pretty sure it never got used.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:31 PM - vipervicki: never saw it if it wasnt during vipers time i didnt care
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Xyaminou: yeah it was, yeah you saw it.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 PM - vipervicki: dont recall
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Xyaminou: your loss.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 PM - vipervicki: yup ima go cry now
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Xyaminou: people would be complaining a lot less if that had been done properly.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:33 PM - vipervicki: another problem is
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:33 PM - vipervicki: the umc time for keeping a map off doesnt work right all the time
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM - vipervicki: unless its been fixed i dunno didnt work a year or 2 ago
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM - Xyaminou: I'm pretty sure there's an option to use previously played maps instead of straight up time
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Xyaminou: // Specifies how many past maps to exclude from the end of map vote. 1 = Current Map Only // - // Default: "4" // Minimum: "0.000000" sm_umc_endvote_mapexclude "4"
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Xyaminou: Now maybe I'm wrong, maybe that doesn't work as well. But otherwise this should be tweaked appropriately
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:36 PM - vipervicki: well i was jsut informed yur spreadsheet came out during nubs time not viper and it wa simplemente don nubs and no one like dit so it was ditched
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:37 PM - vipervicki: yeah but that affects all maps and at tiems you want certin maps 1 or 2 times a day
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:38 PM - vipervicki: and others more often like once every 6 horus
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:38 PM - Xyaminou: so what if it affects all maps? and there's nothing preventing it from playing a map twice a day, although.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:39 PM - Xyaminou: If you have 48 players on the server and 10 maps that fit this criteria, let's say you put it at 8. Once people have played 9 different maps they can go back to the first
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:39 PM - flasche: destroyer: if i had landed in the very center of the push thingy, it would have pushed me right into the hole
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ye i got it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - flasche: i dont think thats good
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - flasche: but the bumpers make it better
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'll lower it a little bit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - flasche: i think
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Xyaminou: assuming 30 minutes per map that's 4h30 minutes, before a map can get played again. So, it does get played twice a day.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - flasche: yeah just a tiny tweak
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Xyaminou: flat out time limit isn't practical anyhow.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not that "tiny", the push force was at 250000
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:40 PM - vipervicki: i have both
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i set it to 220k to see how it works
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:41 PM - vipervicki: anyway time for dinner so you get your wish X ima gone from shoutbox
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'll add a few moving objects to the third level, add VO, and call it done
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....and test if NF LTs work better than jeeps
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - flasche: moving objects
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - Xyaminou: I don't do wishes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: SO XYA, ABOUT ICEBERG
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - flasche: like a rotating thingy that throws you around?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes exactly
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM - flasche: <3
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was thinking springs and rotating scythes
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: you know with global warming icebergs start disappearing
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Xyaminou: maybe let it follow the course of nature...
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - flasche: and so do polar bears
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:43 PM - flasche: poor polar bears theyre so cute when they eat seals
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:44 PM - Xyaminou: because it was a bad idea.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this still means nothing
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:45 PM - Xyaminou: Well life has no meaning either...
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:45 PM - Xyaminou: don't know what else to say.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:45 PM - flasche: i think he wanted to know specifics
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - Xyaminou: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxQWn9jKBIAJSllSb0R5R3dnUzQ
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - Xyaminou: there are no specifics
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the professional term is "constructive criticism"
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - flasche: oops there was a problem with the network
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: things are good for a reason, things are also bad for a reason
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:46 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't do constrictive criticism
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the trick is to formulate those reasons into a sequence of words that others understand
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:47 PM - Xyaminou: exactly, that's painfully annoying.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it helps with understanding
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:47 PM - Xyaminou: my brain says it's bad, end of story as far as I'm concerned.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: both for the creator and for the critic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no, that's your subconscious
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: now it's up toe the conscious to establish why the subconscious means that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Xyaminou: look if I could put in words half the stuff that's in my brain I'd write a book. But I can't.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you wrap it in an amount of sentences, suddenly your opinion becomes valuable
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: writing a book is taking this even further, and i speak from experience
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:49 PM - flasche: for me, though i have not played it yet, is that it has barely any strategic value
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:49 PM - flasche: its simply too small for a comm map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:49 PM - flasche: or well, for a flat comm map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - flasche: if it had buildings like xroads fe it would be different
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - flasche: as at least infantry combat would be interesting
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's actually about the same size as crossroads, just more barren
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - flasche: but i only watched 2 games on it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - Kidpaler: Which map?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - flasche: iceberg
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: iceberg
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - Kidpaler: Oh right, make the center iceberg melt
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - flasche: its the same area as xroad
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - flasche: but xroads has those buildings
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and this wraps back to the one thing i already know; that it needs to be prettier
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - flasche: and paths on the side
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and no, the iceberg's not melting
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: levolution was a gimmick anyway
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - Kidpaler: A nice gimmick
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - Kidpaler: Alright, alright. How about this.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM - flasche: its not the pretty, its the lack of options
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - flasche: its quite similar with drygulch center
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - Kidpaler: A giant ship crashes into the iceberg at about the 10 minute mark that allows for more cover. Or actually, make the shallow areas bigger and throw in some crashed ships for cover
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah iceberg had a complex middle which increased the complexity of it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - flasche: it also lacks something
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: crossroads had a complex middle*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - flasche: yes thats the difference
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - Kidpaler: Make it have a bunch of crashed ships. Maybe some fishing huts. Or make a village.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - Xyaminou: water around map = bad
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM - Kidpaler: Make an eskimo village
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - flasche: or an arctic research station in the water
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - flasche: they need to know why the icecaps melt
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: crossroads also works at a higher playercount; increasing complexity is not going to keep the minimum
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - flasche: something something that adds a few more options
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - Kidpaler: Make an arctic research station that goes THROUGH the center iceberg, but only for Infantry
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: crossroads doesn't work at higher playercount
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - flasche: thing is, two submerged path dont seem to cut it, the feedback so far should tell you
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - Xyaminou: crossroad with high playercount is either all infantry or if there are tanks, stay in your base or die
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - flasche: though the iceberg is a bitch to do tho DT
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - Xyaminou: ends up being artyfest camp your mainbase boring shit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the feedback from a2 told me that the paths end too sharply and can be turtled on too heavily
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - Kidpaler: Eh, so are a lot of things.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 PM - flasche: also it takes away the general concept completely
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the same feedback also told me that the paths themselves deliver very good gameplay
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - Xyaminou: crossroads is one of those maps where Ican join the losing team, get a heavy and stop a 10 heavies push by myself
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - Xyaminou: iceberg is the same
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and this is the problem that i addressed with a3
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - Xyaminou: how?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - flasche: well thats the feedback i heard, idk what else people told me
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but to hark back to a previous thing - water around the map is bad why?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - flasche: you*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: I played a3, no difference
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: Sqsuad in water
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: to enemy base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Kidpaler: I'd say make it all an "ice sheet"
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: surface behind your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: kill your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: artillery works + expanded paths with a better approach angle
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: easy
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Kidpaler: Wait that takes away from iceberg
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: shooting at people in water is annoying, shit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - flasche: oh and that, i told you about not let that happen
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - flasche: ;)
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there are specific points where you can climb out of the water - 4 for each base. The rest is too steep
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Kidpaler: Idea
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't matter
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Kidpaler: Make the water kill you cause it's "freezing"
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Kidpaler: Put a trigger hurt in the water.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - flasche: there is another map exactly like that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: you still have people coming out of the water even if you slap 10 MG turrets in front of that spot
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: they build walls
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: and you have a squad of players in your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Kidpaler: Temple has that problem as well
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Kidpaler: You can swim in the behind waters to the enemy base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: shooting at people in water is boring
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if there's a squad in your base, the frontline is abandoned
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - flasche: ^
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you have a squad in your base and the frontline is still swarming with enemies, the map is being played by too many players
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - flasche: also temple shortes pug round ever
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: yes temple same problem
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: how's that boring
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: because you're shooting at a fucking red square
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - flasche: and dont hit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: standing on the edge shooting at a red square hoping you hit
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Kidpaler: I think the problem with Iceberg is it is a small map. Empires servers seem to go from no pop to med pop fast, causing the low pop maps to be overpopulated
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: that's just one of the many problems
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: like
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: small road
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: leading to large open space
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: you arrive in enemy base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: get spammed by everything
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: if you have any tanks behind you, they block you, you die
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - flasche: bc we are at get spammed by everything - am i the only one not liking the new ml range?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: if you don't, you either die or have to retreat after having accomplised nothing
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - flasche: ml turret*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: shooting at enemies in the water is not too different to shooting at enemies far away or behind masking cover, your visibility is obscured
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: a single good player in a tank on a map like that can stop an entire team
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM - flasche: why not just make it deal more damage instead of locking on from halfway across the map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure ML turrets' range have been decreased recently
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: lower levels anyway
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: at some point they all had the same range
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: resources are limited in a3 to a hard 4 res per second on each half of the map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: and before that, I don't remember if it was higher or lower than what we have now.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: add wages, that's a handful of tanks per side
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: all the more reason to stay in your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the ML spam is countered by a single artillery tank
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: and spend basically 40 minutes waiting for both teams to run out of tickets
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which shouldn't even need any cannon research
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: what ML spam, don't need MLs, just need a tank
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: and arty battles are boring, I thought money estabilished that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: tanks die to grens
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: nobody wants a map where you have to research arty
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you push far enough along a path, artillery tanks are in the open and can be picked off
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: yeah try killing me in a tank as a grenadier from far away
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: the point remains there are more reasons to stay in your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you don't have to research arty, you can also go the usual head on approach
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: than to attack
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: single gren vs you far away, no chance
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: and that's bad for a map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: that is not bad, that is terrible
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you try to push though, and you will have to push because otherwise you lose half your income, you'll be exposed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: look
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: when I play Empires and decide what to do
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: on a good map, I will keep moving
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: get refineries
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: on your map, I will stay in base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: that makes it a bad map
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: simple as that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: stay in base and let the enemy do unto you what you are trying to do unto them?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: instead of pushing up and denying them income, aka the typical empires gameplay?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: turtling is one strategy, it was very viable on _a2, with _a3 the aim was to reduce its effectivity
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: brain says, stay in base, better outcome. Brain is always right as far as I'm concerned.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: didn't work.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i dare say this succeeded, i don't know to what extent, but it did
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Kidpaler: Make there be 2 refs on the side of your base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Kidpaler: then 2 refs on each water side
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Kidpaler: there, fixes that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which side
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: money, crossroads, slaughtered etc... maps where my brain says stay in base
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Kidpaler: Each of the ways with water.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: bad maps.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Kidpaler: Make a little ice island with a ref on it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Kidpaler: Forces the teams to push up and gives one a clear res advantage if they hold both
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Kidpaler: Makes the map end sooner/less stalematey
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/48c70eycon0c7sb/Minimap a3.bmp?dl=0
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you are saying, push the yellow dots to the edges, and add another orange dot on each side?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, except on slaughtered and money you rush heavies to gain an easy advantage instead of turtling, and on crossroads you always fight over middle
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: http://imgur.com/gLplwqv
     
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    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: Do that.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: same # of refs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: but your map right now has all possible refs within the teams defined base.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okaaaay i see what you mean
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: That encourages turtling immensely. With this layout, it promotes teams pushing out to capture and more conflict
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: which is better for a map.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Kidpaler: Plus, its less turtly if one team has more res than the other, cause then they can end it sooner through more tanks.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Kidpaler: Your map is like a 2 lane money
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Kidpaler: errrrr
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Kidpaler: a smaller 2 lane money
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with approximately 15% of its income
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but it needs more conflict that is well defined
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Kidpaler: Conflict should be over refs, right now it is breaking into the main base to kill said refs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/298yt3foiqra76e/a4 ref concept.bmp?dl=0
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think i'll try this instead
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Kidpaler: That still isnt promoting conflict really
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: exposed islands that require control over the path to hold
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Kidpaler: You aren't fighting over anything. They are still well within your sphere of influence right off the bat
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Kidpaler: The problem is there is no combat focal point other than at your main base, so turtle is best option
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: Destroyer on your map I'd rush heavies
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: again, the conflict over resource income is two-fold. One part of it is holding refineries yourself to generate income, the other is denying the enemy their income
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but thats what is promoting turtling
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Kidpaler: Give each team 2 safe refineries, then have them have the ability for 2 additional refineries via conflict. Guarantee it will reduce turtling
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Kidpaler: Doing it the way you just highlighted would only promote me to take the islands and then place walls in front of said refs to prevent them from getting sniped
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Kidpaler: Once again, leading to turtling
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: except only one refinery is safe in the sketch
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Kidpaler: In which sketch? Yours?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the other two will be exposed
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes my sketch
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: walls would limit the damage they can receive but not deny it outright, just like on bootybay
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but it's still on the enemies side.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: where you can snipe refineries behind walls
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes, but exposed to outside attack unless you hold the area in front of it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Kidpaler: http://imgur.com/A02Npu4
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Kidpaler: This is what I picture for the combat zone.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is what i picture too
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but the refs, where you want to put them, fall under each teams influence
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Kidpaler: so if anything you are going to have each team only have 1 ref
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: guys
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Kidpaler: because, if it works out like you said, each team will deny each other of the 2 additional ref
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: https://awwapp.com/
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, rushing heavies is one strategy you can employ, i can see how it'd work, i can also see how it wouldn't; so that's good
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: use that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh that's useful
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: trump, yes assuming that's how the split goes, but it doesn't go that way
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Kidpaler: It doesnt, I agree
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Kidpaler: But then you are down to a reduced amount for each team if the 3 arent safe
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in _a2, it'd start out that way, but after some skirmishing, one side would gain the advantage and push further, usually to the edge of the turret-free part
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but based on your sketch the turrets would still be able to defend said refs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Kidpaler: Which is the problem. It's rewarding turtling still
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which means that assuming one team controls both paths, the refinery split is going to be 3-1
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Kidpaler: And assuming that its 2-2 with each team unable to hold 1
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they would not for two reasons
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Kidpaler: then you are reduced res = long game
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the iceberg provides cover from solid ground you can place them on, and grenadiers/engineers/tanks can safely bombard them
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and second, i've modified the ground to reduce the possible turret buildup. If itn eeds to be tweaked further, it'll be tweaker further
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Kidpaler: I've convinced myself that you need more combat focal points over something.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: reduced resources don't mean a longer game; if anything, large amounts of resources mean a long game, since everyone stays mobile
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Kidpaler: IE x2 refs
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Kidpaler: Reduced res on a low pop map usually means small game
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Kidpaler: Because you can walk to the front line fairly quickly, and thats assuming that your comm doesnt have the barracks RIGHT at the front line behind the iceberg
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Kidpaler: err long game not small game
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the current resource flow translates into an absorbant medium every two minutes assuming no wages
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: given the size of vehicle paths, you don't want many tanks anyway; the short walking distance compared with resources and tight pathways promotes combined arms play
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, and that promotes long games on it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Kidpaler: which is what is the problem
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: problems with it were listed already - people like to see their enemies clearly, people are annoyed by ninja attempts
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the focus on a low vehicle environment promotes long games?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Kidpaler: Yea. Grens are super strong. Vehicles die quickly, back to infantry.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Kidpaler: Only a vehicle rush is worth it, pushing up 1 medium at a time = not worth
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you're saying combined arms don't work in empires, resulting in stalemates
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Kidpaler: No it does
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Kidpaler: but on low pop maps this is a problem
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Kidpaler: It works when you have infantry giving you cover, which they do usually but when it comes to low pop maps, a gren with gren upgrade can rip through armor of a med
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Kidpaler: Resulting in a waste of money because that med wouldn't make it's money back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you're talking 1v1 now
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Kidpaler: Well, no
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Kidpaler: On your map, made for low pop, what do you think is the designed player count?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 2v2-8v8
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: so 2v2 or 3v3, thats 1 player per lane
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: Nothing is going to EVER be accomplished in taking down the enemies refs if they are back near a barracks towards their base.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: Stalemate.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: Turtle.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 2v2 has one player per lane, 3v3 has 2 players in one lane
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: 3v3 has 1 player per lane, 1 as com
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Thexa4: wow, you're talking a lot today :)
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: comm*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one lane is being held by the commander while the rest of the team pushes the other
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Kidpaler: The comm has no real pushing power, we can't include him.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the commander alternates between the CV, an arty tank, and base monkey dutied
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: Sure he can stop them from pushing, but he cant push up.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the commander doesn't attack, the commander turtles
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: Once a team has arty, its GG pretty mu ch
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: I'm talking early/mid game
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: Right there is your problem
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: You need to discourage turtling.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no, i need to find the right balance between attacking and defending aka turtling
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Kidpaler: That's what creates unfun games when you just sit still and research until you have stuff to push with
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can push just fine as infantry and with low tech stuff
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:36 PM - flasche: if i might add my opinion i think i like DTs sketch better
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's all in the teamwork; engineering on iceberg is very fun, there's always something to do
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:37 PM - vipervicki: crossroads max was set to 30 so not sure how you saw 50 people on it
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:37 PM - flasche: his two refs are really exposed and could be clearly seen from mainbase
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Kidpaler: It promote conflict over a center point rather than having them close to main base where it promotes turtling
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - flasche: but that could also mean they are completely useless as you cannot hold them for 100 resources
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i will say that that sketch is a good one, but it suffers from one problem that i'm afraid is at the root of this discussion
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i want the submerged side paths to remain just that.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Kidpaler: They can
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:38 PM - flasche: and a ref that doesnt pay itself better is left unbuilt
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Kidpaler: Have a submerged part go out to the island, then have a non-submerged part out there without the ref
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to be able to place refineries, a portion of ground needs to be above water
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Kidpaler: And Flasche, the islands are big enough for a ref and some walls, thats it.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Kidpaler: A tank could go out there and kill the defenders, then they have to run back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Kidpaler: But it keeps people on the move then
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Kidpaler: Since you cant wall the water
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 PM - flasche: yeah but if you cant hold them for 100 res you better use that space for turrets
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - flasche: or whatever
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with an overwater part, players will just focus on staying there until they can push to the next one
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Kidpaler: And if your team goes out there to defend the ref, then you attack their main and take their other ref down
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Kidpaler: it gives more variety
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Kidpaler: It gives choice
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they would have to be DETACHED from the map to work like that
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: very far off
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Kidpaler: Say its 4v4, 2 people go out to the island ref and get it. Great, now they wall it up and are trying to hold it, now an AFV just drove by to attack the main.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Scar: where in gods name did all these servers come from
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Kidpaler: Not really
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: think break's bleeder
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Kidpaler: It just has to be a walking distance
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Kidpaler: Not far, but also not close
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: break's bleeder flag.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Kidpaler: Enough distance for a tank to drive by it and them to be like "Fuck" and then start walking back
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: break's. bleeder. flag.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM - flasche: oh there are people on the euro server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM - flasche: :o
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM - flasche: must go drive jeep
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ok food for thought was had, thank you everyone who shared their opinions
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:43 PM - vipervicki: i was thinking of joining them too
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'l consider and act accordingly; not decided atm
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:45 PM - Kidpaler: How many?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:46 PM - vipervicki: i think my tv jsut broke :(
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:46 PM - vipervicki: people have dark green all over them
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:46 PM - vipervicki: its not even 1 year old..samsung
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:46 PM - vipervicki: dang
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: icon's on, americans gl
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:48 PM - Kidpaler: Alright, so it's a continent war.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:48 PM - vipervicki: nah i support the uk server
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:48 PM - Kidpaler: No, you don't.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - vipervicki: i dont?
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - Kidpaler: Americans support Americans, Eurotrash support Eurotrash, it's the way it has to be.
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - vipervicki: ok whatever u say
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - vipervicki: i dont like wars
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - vipervicki: lol nah i supported epic
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:49 PM - vipervicki: but my tv broke thats more important
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - vipervicki: green sludge all over peop;e
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - vipervicki: people
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vicki supports reliable tv manufacturers
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - vipervicki: well samsung is good all my tvs are samsung
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: DT you dont to start this war:p
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:50 PM - vipervicki: funny thing tho
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dont want to*
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: the v=cable company was her e a few motnhs ago
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: and broke my tv
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: so thye paid for a new one this one that jsut broke
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: but its my d=edroom tv not the main one
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 PM - vipervicki: bedroom
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:52 PM - vipervicki: they look like thye have midpacks on their faces
    Mar 20, 2017 at 11:53 PM - vipervicki: mud
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:13 AM - A-z-K: Who doesn't love a good mud pack.
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:14 AM - vipervicki: LOL
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:15 AM - vipervicki: i think its fixed we restarted the tv and so far its normal
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:15 AM - vipervicki: actually it looks a bit orange now lol
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:48 AM - A-z-K: Thats becuase your TV is cahioots with your microwave, it's watching you
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Kidpaler: Well, I can confirm right now that my tutorials got 2 more people making maps :D
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:48 AM - A-z-K: The future is bright, the future is Orange
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Kidpaler: Yay tutorials
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:49 AM - A-z-K: I want a penis map, where both teams start in the balls
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: I just wanna say Spike just gave me his plugins, works instantly...
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: thank god not all people are like Vicki and Creeper
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM - A-z-K: You should marry him, I won't stand in the way of true love
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Señor_Awesome: I got a plugin for ya bby
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: but a-z-k
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: I still love you
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Thexa4: could you upload them to the wiki?
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:51 AM - A-z-K: I know I love you too, I just want you to be happy
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:59 AM - vipervicki: i think Im falling in love wit mr x too
    Mar 21, 2017 at 12:59 AM - vipervicki: wait..need to go throw up now
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:05 AM - vipervicki: we gave our custom plaugins for msifires server. like i said we are choosey who we help and you are not even on our list mr x
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Misfire: Cleary someone needs to work on their please and thank you's :)
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:06 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:09 AM - Xyaminou: Yes, Vicki, work on it.
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:10 AM - A-z-K: So much drama in the lbc, sometimes it's hard being snoop d-o-g-g.
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:10 AM - vipervicki: lol x
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:11 AM - vipervicki: after you
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:27 AM - A-z-K: I don't understand why you can't solve your differences like adults. In a full contant rap battle to the death
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:27 AM - A-z-K: Or with robot wars
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM - vipervicki: i jsut anser his insults
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:34 AM - vipervicki: he gets his rocks off going after me lol
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:34 AM - vipervicki: but your right i shud ingore him more often than i do
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:34 AM - vipervicki: ignore
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i wasnte war of any continent wars !!! but i jsut put CAN since i got to represent i work whole day just bame backs but to have true war all servers should have same seup/puglins and see wehre ever one goes
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:41 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: wow even i would not understard what i just typed
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:45 AM - A-z-K: lol
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:51 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:54 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: every day i see a new server pop up lol ppl really trying to fill up the nubs void
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:54 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: who has fl server .co .uk new one
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM - vipervicki: it seems to be a new gaming group
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM - vipervicki: flgaming
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:58 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: nver see or head of them before
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:58 AM - vipervicki: i looked up their steam group thye seem to be a new
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:58 AM - vipervicki: 25 members
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:58 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: well i thing i will put on a eternal sclice server now that i got the hang of it mabe a ship server too
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: they reall need them casue its like only 1
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM - vipervicki: oh cool
    Mar 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM - vipervicki: i wanted to put up a bf4 server but u cant pur up your own with ea games
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:00 AM - vipervicki: put
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:00 AM - vipervicki: u need to go thru a license game host company
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:01 AM - vipervicki: for the game
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:22 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i see ok we ralexing at my server if any wnat to goof around to play tank wards
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:29 AM - vipervicki: i would but im in bed watching tv
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:29 AM - vipervicki: ill join tomorrow in the morning
    Mar 21, 2017 at 2:29 AM - vipervicki: as usual
     
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    Mar 21, 2017 7:35 AM - A-z-K: lol, POTUS getting fact checked during a congressional hearing, about the congressional hearing. What a time to be alive.
    Mar 21, 2017 9:09 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: anyone interested in some strim tonight? iceberg rework, VO stuff, maybe some raid or playing empires?
    Mar 21, 2017 10:20 AM - Paradox: POTUS lying over half of the time everytime he opens his mouth lol
    Mar 21, 2017 10:20 AM - Paradox: POTUS getting his news from fox instead of his staff lol
    Mar 21, 2017 12:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok wtf us potus ?
    Mar 21, 2017 12:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: president of the united states?
    Mar 21, 2017 12:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: how can you not know that after the last campaign ^^
    Mar 21, 2017 2:11 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i live in cali for 4 yers and i hate politcs now :(
    Mar 21, 2017 2:15 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i get most of my news from rt now
    Mar 21, 2017 2:16 PM - Xyaminou: anyone has a good tutorial for setting up fast download, including how to set up the FTP server?
    Mar 21, 2017 2:17 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i dont have tutorial but i can walk you trhouh it
    Mar 21, 2017 2:18 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: first of ftp wont work you need a webserver http only
    Mar 21, 2017 2:23 PM - Xyaminou: what do you mean FTP won't work, that's how we used to do it 10 years ago
    Mar 21, 2017 2:23 PM - Xyaminou: whatever, what do I need to create a webserver
    Mar 21, 2017 2:25 PM - flasche: apache
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: here you go.... do you know how to setup a website do you have a ip ?
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - flasche: i have one
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - flasche: 127.0.0.1
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - flasche: :3
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - Xyaminou: 10 links later...
    Mar 21, 2017 2:26 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: wtf class b?
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - Xyaminou: I already hate it.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - flasche: its even static lol
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - flasche: wtf local loopback
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: yes for me only :P
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - flasche: best ip
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: yup
    Mar 21, 2017 2:27 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah lazy, thanks for telling me everything I already know.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: you would not mention ftp then
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - flasche: xya apache is a webserver
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i can bost how to setup webser too if you like but your ip wont like it
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - flasche: ofc he has an ip
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ie lost of data being transferd
    Mar 21, 2017 2:28 PM - flasche: how else would he post here
    Mar 21, 2017 2:29 PM - Xyaminou: dude if I'm setting up a server it's for it to be used wtf are you on about.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:29 PM - flasche: but yeah, running the fastdl on the same box - unless its a really broad connection sounds not liek the best of an idea
    Mar 21, 2017 2:30 PM - flasche: but idk
    Mar 21, 2017 2:30 PM - Xyaminou: well hey, if you happen to have a server that I can use, I'm all ear.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:30 PM - flasche: i should shutup
    Mar 21, 2017 2:30 PM - Xyaminou: otherwise, it's the only option.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: YOU ARE WELCOME
    Mar 21, 2017 2:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: now come to my sever :P
    Mar 21, 2017 2:35 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Mar 21, 2017 2:35 PM - Xyaminou: keep trying
    Mar 21, 2017 2:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: are you saying you dont underdstand what i posted?
    Mar 21, 2017 2:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i offered my healp all you have to say is ty
    Mar 21, 2017 2:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: x you are veryy rude especilly if ppl help you out man o man
    Mar 21, 2017 2:37 PM - Xyaminou: no I'm saying I won't come to your server
    Mar 21, 2017 2:39 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok.... well that your choice i dont care if you come on or not but you already came twice and i sill remember what comment you made ....ANY ways the only reason my server was teh 2nd one whet online was i though nubs was down for mataince so to HELP creeper out i put it on i was acctuly working with misfire on a zombie mod for empires
    Mar 21, 2017 2:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: but i put that aside and for now then came spikes and misfier new server only thing i did was for the commuinty i jsut dont like the ppl that a selfish
    Mar 21, 2017 2:40 PM - Xyaminou: good for you.
    Mar 21, 2017 2:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and during the time i was manning my server i brough in 30 diffeent ppl into the game
    Mar 21, 2017 2:41 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thats not good for me but good for the community
    Mar 21, 2017 2:41 PM - Xyaminou: are you waiting for some kind of validation on my part or something?
    Mar 21, 2017 2:42 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and the only reason well the most imporant reason i am heloing you is you are the only euro server on so ya.... if eurp player are playing its better for them to come to yours but based on what i have seen of your "admin" skill most ppl might not contiune to play there
    Mar 21, 2017 2:42 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: but good luck : )
    Mar 21, 2017 3:00 PM - A-z-K: Xya FTP is a somewhat more complicated service than you'd expect from a networking side
    Mar 21, 2017 3:00 PM - Xyaminou: the real question is, how do I know which files should be included with the .bsp, other than the minimap
    Mar 21, 2017 3:00 PM - A-z-K: It uses different IP addresses for the control & Data portions so needs some additional ports opened
    Mar 21, 2017 3:02 PM - A-z-K: I'll try and dig out a decent setup guide but I'd recommend spending cash and getting globalscape ftp server, I've found it pretty easy to use
    Mar 21, 2017 3:02 PM - A-z-K: but filezilla works well enough too
    Mar 21, 2017 3:03 PM - Xyaminou: it's okay a-z-k, I've done it with XAMPP
    Mar 21, 2017 3:03 PM - A-z-K: My advice would be to get the ftp server setup and test it from the server itself and then worry about publishing it by opening ports to the public internet
    Mar 21, 2017 3:03 PM - A-z-K: ohh sweet
    Mar 21, 2017 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: most likely...
    Mar 21, 2017 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: http://213.245.206.161/empires/
    Mar 21, 2017 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: does that work for you?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:04 PM - A-z-K: well, I still have a 2 hour minimum, where do I send the invoice
    Mar 21, 2017 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - Thexa4: works
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - Thexa4: Test test test
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: you welcome
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: indeed
    Mar 21, 2017 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: Yes thank you for telling me which program to use...
    Mar 21, 2017 3:06 PM - Xyaminou: the rest of what you wrote, not so useful.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:07 PM - A-z-K: i'll throw in a subscription to Which! caravan weekly
    Mar 21, 2017 3:07 PM - A-z-K: best I can do
    Mar 21, 2017 3:07 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: so you just happen to know where to put the files in htdocs\ ?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:07 PM - A-z-K: ohh and this 256MB USB stick
    Mar 21, 2017 3:08 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: as far as which files to bz2 all the ones taht came with the officla map
    Mar 21, 2017 3:08 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: zip folder like sound models material etc
    Mar 21, 2017 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah except I don't know which one cames with the official maps...
    Mar 21, 2017 3:09 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: redownload them maybe?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: redownload all the custom maps? from where?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:10 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: from here
    Mar 21, 2017 3:10 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: hints there is a lil section call mapping
    Mar 21, 2017 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: also the htdocs, I actually read the config file and modified, didn't realise you wrote that in your thread, so yeah.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:10 PM - Smithy: Welcome to the headache which is running a game server X
    Mar 21, 2017 3:11 PM - Smithy: Where nothing is ever simple
    Mar 21, 2017 3:11 PM - Xyaminou: It is actually pretty simple, just not documented.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:11 PM - Xyaminou: because people have been too lazy to write down their knowledge.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:11 PM - Smithy: So not simple then :deadnf:
    Mar 21, 2017 3:12 PM - Xyaminou: I think we have a different definition of simple and complicated.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:12 PM - Smithy: If something takes you more time than it should have
    Mar 21, 2017 3:12 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: since i am an engineer i dont over complicate thing i dont need to
    Mar 21, 2017 3:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 21, 2017 3:13 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: are you saying i am lazy? i know its in the name but i did take the time to put it for the whole world to see
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - Xyaminou: Do you really want an answer to that?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - Smithy: Its in your name? All I see are symbols
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: sure : P
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - Smithy: :grinnf:
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i feed on negivtivty
    Mar 21, 2017 3:14 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i am just suprised how one one yet as commented on my speeling
    Mar 21, 2017 3:15 PM - Xyaminou: What you wrote was full of typos and missing 99% of the necessaries steps that a newbie would need. If this is how you write tutorials you should just not.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:16 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: you learn from mistakes so thatst the bset tutories
    Mar 21, 2017 3:16 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Mar 21, 2017 3:16 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: plus i was right here looking arfter my lil one
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Xyaminou: Everything is just half-assed in this community it's incredible, that plus the unbelievable selfishness and dictatorial rule of a few. What a place.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Smithy: Forever salty
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: All your servers suck
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: my server is the best
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: we have memes
    Mar 21, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: and dreams
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Xyaminou: it's not your server
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Xyaminou: and yes mine does suck
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Smithy: Your server is misconfigured
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Smithy: Get out
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Paradox: :(
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Paradox: so much hate
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Xyaminou: for all I know it can't handle large population
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Paradox: no wonder you guys dont have memes
    Mar 21, 2017 3:18 PM - Smithy: :cool:
    Mar 21, 2017 3:19 PM - Paradox: whats wrong with the configuration of the memehouse
    Mar 21, 2017 3:19 PM - Smithy: Sourcemod not configured right
    Mar 21, 2017 3:19 PM - Smithy: Commands that do nothing
    Mar 21, 2017 3:19 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: basily its a cope past of my server : P
    Mar 21, 2017 3:20 PM - Smithy: A bunch of maps missing textures
    Mar 21, 2017 3:20 PM - Smithy: I havent played on yours wouldnt know
    Mar 21, 2017 3:20 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: smity smity do me do me next
    Mar 21, 2017 3:20 PM - Smithy: Ew
    Mar 21, 2017 3:21 PM - A-z-K: hawt
    Mar 21, 2017 3:21 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: @X so since A 2 Z was talking about payment all you need to pay is is rcon admin and i am good to go
    Mar 21, 2017 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: what's the best program to compress into bz2?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pakrat i guess?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or just use .res files like real men
    Mar 21, 2017 3:36 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: no but seriously I can't find a single program that does, 7zip used to do it but apparently doesn't anymore, so wtf.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: yes it does tahts y i put it in the post
    Mar 21, 2017 3:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: its bz2 extension
    Mar 21, 2017 3:44 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what you just said.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: 7zip does it
    Mar 21, 2017 3:45 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 21, 2017 3:45 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not seeing it
    Mar 21, 2017 3:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sorry i was thinking a wrong thing
    Mar 21, 2017 3:50 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok get 7.zip portable vesion 1.6.5.0 i works
    Mar 21, 2017 3:52 PM - Xyaminou: portable version? wtf?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: x you installed an old version
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: redownload it
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: make sure you download the latest version
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: how have I installed an old version? I went to their website and use the latest.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: there are links to a 2011 version on their website
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: avoid those
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: Well I just installed it and the option is there
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: http://www.7-zip.org/download.html
    Mar 21, 2017 3:53 PM - Smithy: so....
    Mar 21, 2017 3:54 PM - Xyaminou: I used the one from 2016
    Mar 21, 2017 3:54 PM - Smithy: "Download 7-Zip 9.20 (2010-11-18) for Windows:"
    Mar 21, 2017 3:54 PM - Smithy: so did I, I have the option for bzip
    Mar 21, 2017 3:55 PM - Xyaminou: I really have no idea wtf's going on.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: 7z1604-x64.exe
    Mar 21, 2017 3:56 PM - Smithy: That's the exact one I installed
    Mar 21, 2017 3:56 PM - Smithy: :|
    Mar 21, 2017 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: and in the archive format you have .bz2?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: on windows?
    Mar 21, 2017 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: that makes no fucking sense.
    Mar 21, 2017 3:57 PM - Smithy: win7
    Mar 21, 2017 3:57 PM - Smithy: not win10
    Mar 21, 2017 3:59 PM - Smithy: I have the option on my end, don't know if its a win10 thing
    Mar 21, 2017 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: fuck this shit, seriously.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: there's bzip2 in compression method
    Mar 21, 2017 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: but it's still .zip format
    Mar 21, 2017 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: and it doesn't work for fastdl
    Mar 21, 2017 4:00 PM - Thexa4: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bzip2.htm
    Mar 21, 2017 4:01 PM - Thexa4: drop stuff on the bzip2.exe from there
    Mar 21, 2017 4:01 PM - Thexa4: should be bzipped
    Mar 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: nope, did nothing.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:04 PM - Thexa4: one sec, I'll check it
    Mar 21, 2017 4:05 PM - Xyaminou: I feel like I'm back in the 20th century doing all that shit...
    Mar 21, 2017 4:05 PM - Thexa4: what is not working for you?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:05 PM - Thexa4: you're not getting bz2 files?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:06 PM - Thexa4: you do need to drop individual files on it
    Mar 21, 2017 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: individual files? That's not gonna work I need it to have all the folders from the .vpk
    Mar 21, 2017 4:07 PM - Thexa4: send me a zip and I'll bzip them all for you
    Mar 21, 2017 4:07 PM - Thexa4: it's hard on windows
    Mar 21, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: I have like 60 maps.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: need to figure a way to do it myself
    Mar 21, 2017 4:09 PM - Thexa4: I can show you how to do it using bash?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ignore fastdl, make them download the old fashioned way
    Mar 21, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: takes about 20 minutes for a map the size of massacred
    Mar 21, 2017 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: destroyer the problem is not the fastdl, it's the archived version
    Mar 21, 2017 4:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (please don't make them do it the old fashioned way)
    Mar 21, 2017 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: I could just slap all the maps in the fastdl folder and it'd work
    Mar 21, 2017 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: it'd just take like 4 time longer because not compressed.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:11 PM - Thexa4: one sec, making a script for you
    Mar 21, 2017 4:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: still faster
    Mar 21, 2017 4:13 PM - Thexa4: Shift+right click in the empires folder, select Open command window here
    Mar 21, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: it's just bz2, right? 'cause it says I can compress into .tar.bz2
    Mar 21, 2017 4:13 PM - Thexa4: then enter:
    Mar 21, 2017 4:14 PM - Thexa4: that won't work
    Mar 21, 2017 4:14 PM - Thexa4: forfiles /s /C "cmd /c bzip2.exe @file"
    Mar 21, 2017 4:14 PM - Thexa4: and all files should be bzipped
    Mar 21, 2017 4:15 PM - Thexa4: (might want to try with a smaller folder first)
    Mar 21, 2017 4:17 PM - Xyaminou: bzip2.exe isn't recognized
    Mar 21, 2017 4:17 PM - Thexa4: where is your bzip2.exe located?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:17 PM - Thexa4: (full path)
    Mar 21, 2017 4:17 PM - Xyaminou: C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin
    Mar 21, 2017 4:18 PM - Thexa4: then try:
    Mar 21, 2017 4:18 PM - Thexa4: forfiles /s /C "cmd /c C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\bzip2.exe @file"
    Mar 21, 2017 4:18 PM - Thexa4: sorry:
    Mar 21, 2017 4:19 PM - Thexa4: forfiles /s /C "cmd /c \"C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\bzip2.exe\" @file"
    Mar 21, 2017 4:19 PM - Xyaminou: it's not liking the space in program files
    Mar 21, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: stopping at program
    Mar 21, 2017 4:25 PM - Paradox: all yer servers are shit
    Mar 21, 2017 4:25 PM - Paradox: memehouse for the win
    Mar 21, 2017 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: move it to europe
    Mar 21, 2017 4:28 PM - flasche: add the path to bzip2 to your path enviroment variable for great justice
    Mar 21, 2017 4:28 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Mar 21, 2017 4:28 PM - flasche: then you dont need to type all the path before
    Mar 21, 2017 4:29 PM - Thexa4: try: forfiles /s /C "cmd /c C:\Program~2\GnuWin32\bin\bzip2.exe @file"
    Mar 21, 2017 4:30 PM - flasche: do you have a d: drive?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:30 PM - flasche: or what thexa said
    Mar 21, 2017 4:30 PM - Xyaminou: if only we had steam workshop for the maps...
    Mar 21, 2017 4:30 PM - flasche: if only
    Mar 21, 2017 4:30 PM - Thexa4: (you can also temporarily put it directly on the C: drive, then you can do C:\bzip2.exe
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: it'd be so much better.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - vipervicki: this is easier
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - Thexa4: would work for fastdl unfortunately
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - Thexa4: wouldn't*
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - vipervicki: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=189717
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - vipervicki: put the bat file where u wanna bzip and just drag the fies into the .bat file and bam
    Mar 21, 2017 4:31 PM - vipervicki: files
    Mar 21, 2017 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: what do you mean it wouldn't work for fastdl? if we have proper workshop integration it'd download whatever missing files from the workshop like other games do.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:34 PM - Thexa4: I wish it was that automatic :P
    Mar 21, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: nope, not doing anything either.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:35 PM - vipervicki: u need 7zip installed
    Mar 21, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: I know, I have.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:35 PM - vipervicki: open bat files with notepad ++ and make sure the apth is same as yurs
    Mar 21, 2017 4:36 PM - vipervicki: if not change it
    Mar 21, 2017 4:36 PM - vipervicki: path
    Mar 21, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: it is
    Mar 21, 2017 4:36 PM - vipervicki: ive used it and it works fine.. drag one file to test into the .bat file
    Mar 21, 2017 4:37 PM - vipervicki: dont doubr double clikc the bat drag the file
    Mar 21, 2017 4:37 PM - vipervicki: lol double
    Mar 21, 2017 4:37 PM - vipervicki: into it
    Mar 21, 2017 4:38 PM - Xyaminou: I have...
    Mar 21, 2017 4:38 PM - vipervicki: then i dunno it works fine for me
    Mar 21, 2017 4:38 PM - vipervicki: no cmd window opens?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:39 PM - vipervicki: when u drag a file into the bat?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: it does
    Mar 21, 2017 4:39 PM - vipervicki: and?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:39 PM - vipervicki: is the ba tin the folder with the files u r dragging in?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:39 PM - vipervicki: bat in
    Mar 21, 2017 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: lol whut bzip2.exe is getting permission denied when trying to open the folders
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: hmm, it did compress it thought
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: but
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: do all the files in the res file go into a single bz2 or do you have to pack each one individually?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: it compressed each individual file
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: instead of compressing the folder
    Mar 21, 2017 4:42 PM - vipervicki: individually
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure you're supposed to have an archive with the folders
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: really
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: might have worked then
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: yes, should be individually
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: [​IMG]
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - vipervicki: when I drag .bsp file sin it not the whole folder i gt indivual .bsp.bz2 files
    Mar 21, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: oh i thought its gotta be a tarball
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard:
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - Thexa4: you can probably also configure your webserver to bzip it on the fly
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: so if i release a map, should i release both a version that contains everything unpacked and a 2nd one with all files as bz2s?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - vipervicki: if the bat file is outside the folder of fiels u wanna bzip that cud be why
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - Thexa4: takes a bit more cpu load
    Mar 21, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: also i assume the .res file shouldnt be bziped
    Mar 21, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: or is that irrelevant then?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:45 PM - vipervicki: the bat file shud be in same directory as the files u drag in
    Mar 21, 2017 4:45 PM - Thexa4: you can do either
    Mar 21, 2017 4:45 PM - vipervicki: res doesnt need to its so small
    Mar 21, 2017 4:45 PM - vipervicki: u can bzip all maps files but i only do the big ones
    Mar 21, 2017 4:46 PM - vipervicki: .res files are only 1 kb no need to compress
    Mar 21, 2017 4:46 PM - flasche: right
    Mar 21, 2017 4:46 PM - flasche: makes sense :D
    Mar 21, 2017 4:46 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - vipervicki: i do bsps and sound files and if a mat file is extra ig
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - vipervicki: big*
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: [​IMG]
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - flasche: you do that by hand?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: Thexa's thing is working
    Mar 21, 2017 4:47 PM - vipervicki: with the thing i showed X
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - vipervicki: works fine for me
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: Could you document the process on the wiki?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: can you make it a .bat thexa?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: eh
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: I can't document anything I have no idea what I'm doing half the time.
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: what do you want it to do?
    Mar 21, 2017 4:48 PM - Thexa4: just write down the steps / links / chat messages you used
    Mar 21, 2017 4:49 PM - Thexa4: doesn't have to be structured but as long as it helps preserve information it's good
    Mar 21, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: alright well I just zipped the entire server folder into fastdl
    Mar 21, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: so
    Mar 21, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: anyway still need to figure out those god damn offsets
    Mar 21, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause the vote percentages display wrong and slay crashes the server.
    Mar 21, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: it does make sense now
    Mar 21, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: why bz wasn't working
    Mar 21, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't support folders
    Mar 21, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: only files
    Mar 21, 2017 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: I was certain you had to compress it all into one archive, so yeah.
    Mar 21, 2017 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: 7zip does in fact have bz2 but not if you try to compress a folder
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: ah
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: yes, the vote count issue is an empires bug
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: but a script is much better I don't have to do it one by one that'd be annoying
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: a fix is ready and will be released in 2.13
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: is it? 'cause it's fixed on some servers
    Mar 21, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: they worked around it
    Mar 21, 2017 5:18 PM - Thexa4: and their plugin will be broken after 2.13
    Mar 21, 2017 5:18 PM - Thexa4: if you replace %% with the text 'percent' you won't have an issue
    Mar 21, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: Well, don't want to sound rude, but at the rate at which versions come out nowadays I'd rather have the workaround.
    Mar 21, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: alright
    Mar 21, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: which file do I need to replace that in?
    Mar 21, 2017 5:22 PM - Thexa4: 2.13 should be released on 25th april
    Mar 21, 2017 5:22 PM - Thexa4: not sure, they were referring to a translation file
    Mar 21, 2017 5:30 PM - Xyaminou: anyone without king wanna connect to my server test the fastdl?
    Mar 21, 2017 5:30 PM - Thexa4: sure
    Mar 21, 2017 5:32 PM - Thexa4: works
    Mar 21, 2017 5:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: stream is live, gonna do district, iceberg, maybe jeepjoust today: www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Mar 21, 2017 5:40 PM - Kidpaler: What about tutorial/trailer?
    Mar 21, 2017 7:07 PM - Xyaminou: so, anybody knows why some of stuff doesn't download with fastdl?
    Mar 21, 2017 7:07 PM - Xyaminou: how to tell it to send all the required files?
    Mar 21, 2017 7:12 PM - vipervicki: netfilesize try uping that in server.cfg
    Mar 21, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: do any csutom maps dld? and mae sure your sv_download url is correct
    Mar 21, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: make
    Mar 21, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: its the url to the fast dld not a file path
    Mar 21, 2017 7:14 PM - vipervicki: maxfilesize..sorry increase that
    Mar 21, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: nah it's just there were textures missing
    Mar 21, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: but now it works apparently it was a .res file missing
    Mar 21, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: now the question is how to make .res files
    Mar 21, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause atomic doesn't have one, or at least I don't have
    Mar 21, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: and people were missing textures on it.
    Mar 21, 2017 7:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: .res files weren't downloaded from NUBS so most people no longer have any
    Mar 21, 2017 7:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: same for .cfg files but that was a low impact thing in comparison
    Mar 21, 2017 7:40 PM - Xyaminou: It's curious that the server needs them but the client doesn't.
    Mar 21, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: what the hell are ztmp files and why did some appear in the maps folder of my server?
    Mar 21, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: emp_beachfront_b2.bsp.ztmp
    Mar 21, 2017 7:47 PM - Xyaminou: okay I just tweaking a res file from atomic_r3 for r6
    Mar 21, 2017 7:47 PM - Xyaminou: tweaked*
    Mar 21, 2017 7:47 PM - Xyaminou: let's try i
    Mar 21, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: it*
    Mar 21, 2017 8:06 PM - Xyaminou: King and Atomic fixed (most likely)
    Mar 21, 2017 8:25 PM - Kidpaler: X, can you put up the dl for atomic on here?
    Mar 21, 2017 8:30 PM - Kidpaler: Also silk, if you read this, can you let me know if you have any design goals/features for echelon that you didnt make public? Id like to finish it
    Mar 21, 2017 8:36 PM - Xyaminou: http://213.245.206.161/empires/maps/
    Mar 21, 2017 8:36 PM - Xyaminou: but you also need the other files so
    Mar 21, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: either pick them off one by one on my fastdl server or
    Mar 21, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: http://packages.empiresmod.com/vpk/
    Mar 21, 2017 8:38 PM - Xyaminou: Anyway there are now 48 maps on the mapcycle/vote on my server
    Mar 21, 2017 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: all with min/max players
    Mar 21, 2017 8:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: doing VO editing for commjoust www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Mar 21, 2017 8:53 PM - Xyaminou: shame!
    Mar 21, 2017 8:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wut
    Mar 21, 2017 8:58 PM - Kidpaler: Make the trailer!
    Mar 21, 2017 9:00 PM - Ranger: you will need a v8 for that trailer
    Mar 21, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: damnit, steam friends is off.
    Mar 21, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: hate when that happens in the middle of a conversation
    Mar 21, 2017 11:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/298yt3foiqra76e/a4 ref concept.bmp?dl=0
    Mar 21, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: same
    Mar 21, 2017 11:44 PM - Ranger: shame
    Mar 21, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: shame
    Mar 21, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: :dingdingding:
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: so yeah destroyer did you get the message
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: like
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there is a joke here i am missing
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: just send me the file and then we can test it someday
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i didnt
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: "00:40 - Mr. X.: I mean, yeah, now that I have the server figured out we can just play it later"
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yep i just need to set up the map resources. minimao is gonna take me an hour
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: xya do you still need to test maps?
    Mar 21, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: oh wait, it's back
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: sure flasche
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: i was just going to write you when steam went off
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: don't know if I said but I most likely fixed atomic too
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: ah cool
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: I checked and most other maps have res files so they should be fine.
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: well the official ones dont need one
    Mar 21, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: but if you have nothing else to do, it's always good to make sure.
    Mar 21, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: oh i could have something to do, i just want to be helpful
    Mar 21, 2017 11:51 PM - Xyaminou: also I'd still like to test runoff vote
    Mar 21, 2017 11:51 PM - Xyaminou: if destroyer can come too we can try it.
    Mar 21, 2017 11:51 PM - Kidpaler: shiot, didnt mean to do a full compile there
    Mar 21, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: oh god, mungo jerry
    Mar 21, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: it came up after why cant we be friends
    Mar 21, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche: <3
    Mar 21, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche:
    Mar 21, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: destroyer how come you're not reconencted to steam?
    Mar 21, 2017 11:55 PM - flasche: maybe he doesnt sign in automatically
    Mar 21, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: or maybe he dances to mungo jerry?
    Mar 21, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: i could understand
    Mar 21, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: :D
    Mar 22, 2017 12:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sorry im off to sleep. alarm goes at 0630
    Mar 22, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: ow thats early
    Mar 22, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: gnight
     
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    Mar 22, 2017 6:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm like a zombie
    Mar 22, 2017 8:59 AM - A-z-K: With your tanks & your bombs. In my head. In my he-e-e-ead.
    Mar 22, 2017 10:11 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i gravewalk through the day and its not pleasant
    Mar 22, 2017 10:27 AM - A-z-K: Try taking 1000mg Niacin tablets and a multivitamin with Iron.
    Mar 22, 2017 10:29 AM - A-z-K: I was the same for years, 1 week of that plus zero caffeine and no mobile, laptop, tablet or TV 1 hour before bed and I'm more alert than a crack baby
    Mar 22, 2017 11:54 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just didnt sleep enough of my own volition, thanks for the vitanin tip tho
    Mar 22, 2017 11:56 AM - A-z-K: Ahh yeah, party all night sleep all day mang
    Mar 22, 2017 11:57 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....except i had classes at 8 am, buuut i got it done
    Mar 22, 2017 11:57 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: now, on to hammer
    Mar 22, 2017 12:42 PM - Xyaminou: where can I find the parachute plugin?
    Mar 22, 2017 12:58 PM - vipervicki: sourcemod forums
    Mar 22, 2017 12:59 PM - vipervicki: use this page to search for plguins u want
    Mar 22, 2017 12:59 PM - vipervicki: https://www.sourcemod.net/plugins.php
    Mar 22, 2017 1:01 PM - Xyaminou: Oh hi google, didn't know you renamed yourself.
    Mar 22, 2017 1:01 PM - vipervicki: lol its not google its the page i use to search for plguins
    Mar 22, 2017 1:02 PM - vipervicki: jsut in the dropdown enu choose any not all
    Mar 22, 2017 1:03 PM - vipervicki: menu
    Mar 22, 2017 1:03 PM - vipervicki: been using that page for years
    Mar 22, 2017 1:05 PM - vipervicki: but sicne u dont seem to want my help ill stop so no worries
    Mar 22, 2017 1:08 PM - Xyaminou: I said where can I find THE parachute plugin, and you point me to a page that I already have used and obviously know about, that can only find me A parachute plugin. When you already have the answer, don't pretend to call that help. And yes please do stop feeling like you're forced to reply to everything.
    Mar 22, 2017 1:21 PM - vipervicki: afaik there sonly 1 parachute plugin so The plugin is to be found where I said I never saw another one
    Mar 22, 2017 1:23 PM - vipervicki: but since you know it all..carry on w/o my help
    Mar 22, 2017 1:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's three
    Mar 22, 2017 1:32 PM - vipervicki: not really
    Mar 22, 2017 1:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one seems to be for a specific zombie mod, and the other is a new version of the first one
    Mar 22, 2017 1:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2416864
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - vipervicki: if he could read i said use any not all 1 is not for any game the toerh 2 are the same by same dev
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - vipervicki: jsut the second one the other guy improved the swats plugin
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - vipervicki: o hence onely 21
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - vipervicki: and why i told him to use any not all so he doesnt get stuff for other games
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - vipervicki: only 1
    Mar 22, 2017 1:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: *2 minutes of research lost*
    Mar 22, 2017 1:34 PM - vipervicki: but im not gonna helphim anymore ill jsut sit back and be entertianed
    Mar 22, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no offense but you said that a few times already
    Mar 22, 2017 1:36 PM - vipervicki: no i didnt i never said i wont help anymore until jsut now
    Mar 22, 2017 1:36 PM - vipervicki: help him that is
    Mar 22, 2017 1:36 PM - vipervicki: i still help toehrs always did
    Mar 22, 2017 1:37 PM - vipervicki: but not all anyway its done with
    Mar 22, 2017 1:38 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: mr x you only have 3 life lines after you dont get any more clues
    Mar 22, 2017 1:39 PM - vipervicki: lol lizzy
    Mar 22, 2017 1:39 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: 1) call a fried 2) 50 50 and 3) i forget
    Mar 22, 2017 1:40 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: fyi guys i got a new friend in euro that will be rumming empires deid in frace so a new kid willl be in the block
    Mar 22, 2017 1:42 PM - vipervicki: oh cool lizzy
    Mar 22, 2017 1:42 PM - vipervicki: on his own pc or a dedi box?
    Mar 22, 2017 1:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: dedi
    Mar 22, 2017 1:43 PM - vipervicki: glad we will have a euor server on a dedi box it shud run well
    Mar 22, 2017 1:43 PM - vipervicki: euro
    Mar 22, 2017 1:43 PM - vipervicki: if he needs help seeting up im happy to help
    Mar 22, 2017 1:45 PM - vipervicki: sinc hes your friend im sure hes nice
    Mar 22, 2017 1:46 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: he is as exp as me if not more so we will be ok but thanks as always
    Mar 22, 2017 1:47 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: its called flgaming and its up just got to add some new maps and my plugins and we should be rolling
    Mar 22, 2017 1:48 PM - vipervicki: oh his serv rhas been up already
    Mar 22, 2017 1:49 PM - vipervicki: give him the link to the map map if he doesnt have it by now
    Mar 22, 2017 1:49 PM - vipervicki: map pack
    Mar 22, 2017 2:04 PM - Xyaminou: Hu, testing maps I just found out that palmbay somehow has an income WITHOUT refineries of 3
    Mar 22, 2017 2:04 PM - Xyaminou: that's weird
    Mar 22, 2017 2:10 PM - Ranger: refs of 3?
    Mar 22, 2017 2:11 PM - Xyaminou: When you have 0 refineries you still gain 3 resources per second.
    Mar 22, 2017 2:32 PM - flasche: keef did that oh his maps
    Mar 22, 2017 2:32 PM - flasche: i think its the same on manticore
    Mar 22, 2017 2:51 PM - Xyaminou: no wonder research always has so much res, all refs are x2.
    Mar 22, 2017 2:53 PM - flasche: but it doesnt have that many refs does it?
    Mar 22, 2017 2:54 PM - flasche: 7 iirc
    Mar 22, 2017 2:54 PM - flasche: but x2 thats really a lot
    Mar 22, 2017 2:55 PM - flasche: but ... how much is good?
    Mar 22, 2017 2:58 PM - Xyaminou: research has 10 refs which is 20res/s worth
    Mar 22, 2017 2:58 PM - Xyaminou: if you compare that to canyon for example, 10 refs but 10res/s worth because they're x1
    Mar 22, 2017 2:58 PM - Xyaminou: here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...com&ts=58d2763f&actionButton=1#gid=1072128516
    Mar 22, 2017 2:59 PM - flasche: oh thats interesting
    Mar 22, 2017 3:03 PM - flasche: damn income is way more diverse than i thought
    Mar 22, 2017 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: I know right, and slaughtered isn't even the worst
    Mar 22, 2017 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: snowbound just took the first position for highest resource income.
    Mar 22, 2017 3:06 PM - flasche: in the players/map list you have emp_proivinggrounds
    Mar 22, 2017 3:06 PM - flasche: its not on the list
    Mar 22, 2017 3:06 PM - flasche: of resources
    Mar 22, 2017 3:06 PM - flasche: (nothing lost tho)
    Mar 22, 2017 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: provingground shouldn't be on the server, it's only maps that are on the server.
    Mar 22, 2017 3:19 PM - flasche: maticore isnt on the server either?
    Mar 22, 2017 3:22 PM - Xyaminou: nope
    Mar 22, 2017 3:22 PM - Xyaminou: damn the refineries on SOF are weird
    Mar 22, 2017 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: okay yeah, it's only _tc1 that has weird refs
    Mar 22, 2017 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: I thought it only removed the stupid ship easter egg, but apparently it also fucks the refs, so goodbye _tc1.
    Mar 22, 2017 3:29 PM - Ranger: what's _tc1? what's the new sof called
    Mar 22, 2017 3:33 PM - Xyaminou: there is no new SOF, Varbles started working on it but it's not in a working state.
    Mar 22, 2017 3:33 PM - Xyaminou: tc1 is what I just said
    Mar 22, 2017 3:34 PM - Xyaminou: a version which removes the easter egg and apparently changes the refineries output.
    Mar 22, 2017 3:34 PM - Smithy: emp_chatroom when
    Mar 22, 2017 3:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: remind me to run a compile of SOF some night, it takes a good few hours to do but it's not too bad
    Mar 22, 2017 3:36 PM - Xyaminou: oh btw D
    Mar 22, 2017 3:36 PM - Xyaminou: I need the res file for snowbound_cl5
    Mar 22, 2017 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ask creeper
    Mar 22, 2017 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i only had the vmf
    Mar 22, 2017 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but from what i've found, there's a few custom things
    Mar 22, 2017 3:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the ground texture blend is custom, the missile models are custom
    Mar 22, 2017 3:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: probably a few others. Just check folders named "jimather"
    Mar 22, 2017 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: lol "ask creeper" are you serious?
    Mar 22, 2017 3:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't know anyone else who would have the .res file. I guess whoever has access to ESB's files?
    Mar 22, 2017 3:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have multiple PCs to work with and at least one of them has all the needed files. With some effort you can recreate the .res file by running the map on the fully set up machine and joining with a fresh copy
    Mar 22, 2017 3:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: IIRC that's what creeper had to do to get his .res file anyways
    Mar 22, 2017 3:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plus, it's easier now because i removed a texture or two that were missing in favor of stock ones that fit and are available
    Mar 22, 2017 3:46 PM - flasche: Destroyer, if you want me to, send me SoF ill compile it
    Mar 22, 2017 3:46 PM - flasche: (not doing any fixing tho)
    Mar 22, 2017 3:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's an overnight compile thouhg, 6-8 hours with an i7
    Mar 22, 2017 3:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (a fresh i7)
    Mar 22, 2017 3:47 PM - flasche: damn
    Mar 22, 2017 3:47 PM - flasche: what is a fresh i7?
    Mar 22, 2017 3:47 PM - flasche: out of the box
    Mar 22, 2017 3:48 PM - flasche: what takes so long just vrad?
    Mar 22, 2017 3:49 PM - flasche: i thought i could just leave it running on the other computer
    Mar 22, 2017 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: why do you need to compile SoF?
    Mar 22, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: alright, list is pretty much done, still need to determine if flags give resources on a couple of maps because they require multiple persons to test
    Mar 22, 2017 5:51 PM - vipervicki: UK PARLIAMENT ATTACK 2 dead, including cop, as many mowed down in 'terror incident'
    Mar 22, 2017 5:51 PM - Ranger: thank you vicki news
    Mar 22, 2017 5:53 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 22, 2017 5:53 PM - vipervicki: its jsut so sad
    Mar 22, 2017 6:09 PM - Xyaminou: Yes I could almost cry...
    Mar 22, 2017 6:35 PM - vipervicki: not interested
    Mar 22, 2017 6:36 PM - Xyaminou: can someone join my server so I can determine how much resources the refineries spawned by the flags on emp_king give?
    Mar 22, 2017 6:44 PM - Xyaminou: there's still one thing I've yet to decide. Remove slaughtered and leave only massacred?
    Mar 22, 2017 6:48 PM - Xyaminou: What's the plugin to turn on alltalk at the end of the round?
    Mar 22, 2017 6:54 PM - vipervicki: uk server is popualted..interesting server tho
    Mar 22, 2017 6:54 PM - vipervicki: lotta stuff not usually used in empires
    Mar 22, 2017 6:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: huh? like what
    Mar 22, 2017 6:54 PM - vipervicki: quake sounds
    Mar 22, 2017 6:54 PM - vipervicki: lltlak on always
    Mar 22, 2017 6:55 PM - vipervicki: some msuic when u enter the game
    Mar 22, 2017 6:55 PM - vipervicki: announcing flgaming after the music
    Mar 22, 2017 6:55 PM - vipervicki: i think it even has paintball someone told me
    Mar 22, 2017 6:55 PM - vipervicki: alltalk
    Mar 22, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: not your typical empires server
    Mar 22, 2017 7:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: alltalk at all times? Just why
    Mar 22, 2017 7:03 PM - Xyaminou: When you guys have some spare time someone should decompile palmbay and find out if it was intentional to have 3res/s when you have nothing.
    Mar 22, 2017 7:03 PM - Xyaminou: and remove, at least for my server.
    Mar 22, 2017 7:03 PM - Xyaminou: remove it*
    Mar 22, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: dunno but he has it set u can turn it off indivually
    Mar 22, 2017 7:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: palmbay's a stock map, looking at vmf
    Mar 22, 2017 7:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the vmf throws an error on load, cool
    Mar 22, 2017 7:16 PM - Ranger: plz fix
    Mar 22, 2017 7:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah there's literally two teeny tiny capture points that generate 3 res per second for each time
    Mar 22, 2017 7:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: team*
    Mar 22, 2017 7:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hidden in the corner of the map
    Mar 22, 2017 7:18 PM - Ranger: but why dat. i thought that maybe the res were supposed to be given when u captured the pirate ships
    Mar 22, 2017 7:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nope that's 100% intentional
    Mar 22, 2017 7:18 PM - Ranger: like are the ships really troll flags...?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:18 PM - Ranger: 100% intentional troll flags
    Mar 22, 2017 7:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the only thing attached to the ships is ammo crates that spawn/despawn. They don't affect tickets, they don't affect resources
    Mar 22, 2017 7:20 PM - Ranger: >troll flags
    Mar 22, 2017 7:20 PM - Ranger: they do nothing yet yer nub part of the team tries to capture it for 30 minutes
    Mar 22, 2017 7:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they do give a great angle on innter refineries but people don't use that
    Mar 22, 2017 7:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: inner*
    Mar 22, 2017 7:24 PM - Lazybum: The point of boat is to lock down mid with some lvl 3 turrets
    Mar 22, 2017 7:24 PM - Lazybum: or a skilled rifleman
    Mar 22, 2017 7:25 PM - Lazybum: if 2 guys on it can distract a squad then clearly the boat hold a massive tactical advantage
    Mar 22, 2017 7:25 PM - Ranger: ye but the flags?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ammo refill and class change
    Mar 22, 2017 7:25 PM - Lazybum: Not to mention it's a boat, who doesn't want a boat?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: can you remove that Destroyer?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: and send me a copy?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can, but i don't have the authority
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sooo yakno
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: it'll be a modified version of the map, what do you mean you don't have authority?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: anyone can edit the maps...
    Mar 22, 2017 7:27 PM - Ranger: he fears he will persecuted by brenodian secret police
    Mar 22, 2017 7:27 PM - Xyaminou: no one expect the brenodian secret police
    Mar 22, 2017 7:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the vmf isn't public
    Mar 22, 2017 7:27 PM - Lazybum: I'd like a palmbay with moar boats plz
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can entspy the capture points and remove the resource generation
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, there's no boat models to work with
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - Lazybum: then what's that thing floating in the midddle of palm?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - Ranger: i have a container ship in hammer
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - Ranger: css map
    Mar 22, 2017 7:28 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know what that means, I was asking, you said no, fine.
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - Xyaminou: guess I'll probably remove it from the server then.
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - Lazybum: D:
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: google entspy, it's the first hit
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - Ranger: look what you've done destroyer
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, i mean there's no more models. Palmbay pretty much uses all the bigger boats already
    Mar 22, 2017 7:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what did i do? Propagate laziness?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:30 PM - Ranger: im offering a container ship!
    Mar 22, 2017 7:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pics or something?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:31 PM - Ranger: http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/maps/52c4b850232e1.jpg
    Mar 22, 2017 7:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my rough guesstimate is that this thing would take up the entire bay by itself
    Mar 22, 2017 7:32 PM - Ranger: ye. BUTT
    Mar 22, 2017 7:32 PM - Ranger: DO YOU REMEMBER PALMBAY DESCRIPTION?
    Mar 22, 2017 7:32 PM - Ranger: its all about the lore
    Mar 22, 2017 7:33 PM - A-z-K: That pic reminds me of Rainbox Six
    Mar 22, 2017 7:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's all about the gameplay really
    Mar 22, 2017 7:36 PM - Ranger: the layout is same with COD's containership map
    Mar 22, 2017 7:36 PM - Ranger: wetwork..?
    Mar 22, 2017 8:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sort the bloody maplist alphabetically
    Mar 22, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: aren't you able to do that yourself?
    Mar 22, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: or how do I publish a version where people can just sort the list
    Mar 22, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: I don't use google spreadsheet much
    Mar 22, 2017 8:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you need to edit permissions, i think there's an option for that when you press the share button
    Mar 22, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: well it's set to anyone with the link can view
    Mar 22, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: but I've seen some google spreadsheet where it only shows what you want it to show and people can sort the column themselves
    Mar 22, 2017 8:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and that's what we can do and that's what it should probably be left at for a public thing
    Mar 22, 2017 8:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i sent a request for editing powers
    Mar 22, 2017 8:29 PM - Xyaminou: show me what it looks like on your end
    Mar 22, 2017 8:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hvqt63qoac7ook/Screenshot 2017-03-22 21.27.56.png?dl=0
    Mar 22, 2017 8:30 PM - Ranger: its the most worsest
    Mar 22, 2017 8:31 PM - Ranger: should have sorting thing in every column not just for names
    Mar 22, 2017 8:31 PM - Ranger: can be useful
    Mar 22, 2017 8:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: I HAVE EDIT ACCESS
    Mar 22, 2017 8:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: QUICK DELETE THE WHOLE HTING
    Mar 22, 2017 8:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my stream's up, gonna finish up iceberg and do district402 stuff www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Mar 22, 2017 8:42 PM - Xyaminou: right, so you're not seeing it like I thought you would
    Mar 22, 2017 10:10 PM - Xyaminou: updated my thread to be more than just a link to the spreadsheet.
    Mar 22, 2017 10:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: iceberg_a4 is ready, district tweaks just need compiling, yay.
    Mar 22, 2017 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: tweaks?
    Mar 22, 2017 10:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: tweaks
    Mar 22, 2017 10:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: moved a prop one unit, moved flag on be's second flag to not obscure vision for attackers
    Mar 22, 2017 10:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: prepared the map for some upcoming changes
    Mar 22, 2017 10:18 PM - Xyaminou: tweaks!
    Mar 22, 2017 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes tweaks
    Mar 22, 2017 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also removed starting resources
    Mar 22, 2017 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i think i forgot to remove resource generation
    Mar 22, 2017 10:25 PM - Xyaminou: nah district needs resources man
    Mar 22, 2017 10:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: riiight
    Mar 22, 2017 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: I wonder why duststorm got its tickets doubled at some point.
    Mar 22, 2017 10:28 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause the base tickets is 200
    Mar 22, 2017 10:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: maybe it plays better at 200
    Mar 22, 2017 10:30 PM - Xyaminou: I would think, also massacred has 1/3rd the tickets of slaughtered
    Mar 22, 2017 10:30 PM - Xyaminou: 150 vs 450
    Mar 22, 2017 10:30 PM - Xyaminou: might make it 200 or 300
    Mar 22, 2017 10:32 PM - Xyaminou: and I finally decided to remove slaughtered and keep massacred only
    Mar 22, 2017 10:33 PM - Ranger: it's not slaughtered/massacred if at the end of the game you havent formed piles of bodies 10 meters high
    Mar 22, 2017 10:35 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 22, 2017 10:42 PM - Ranger: So at the end the tanks are used to bring down the wall of bodies at the chokepoint in s bend
    Mar 22, 2017 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: slaughtered plays nothing like massacred, they really should be considered two different maps
    Mar 22, 2017 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pretty much every part of the map plays differently
    Mar 22, 2017 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: added: !admins, !profile, round end alltalk, killerinfo and parachutes to the server.
    Mar 22, 2017 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yay killerinfo, because i didn't want to use weapon silencer anyways
    Mar 22, 2017 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 22, 2017 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: I didn't remove just because they're too similar, I also removed it because slaughtered is boring as hell.
    Mar 22, 2017 11:08 PM - Ranger: wow the chat ate my message
    Mar 22, 2017 11:08 PM - Ranger: i said "add jetpacks"
    Mar 22, 2017 11:08 PM - Xyaminou: it's hungry
    Mar 22, 2017 11:08 PM - Xyaminou: lol no
    Mar 22, 2017 11:08 PM - vipervicki: lol ranger
    Mar 22, 2017 11:09 PM - vipervicki: im flattered tho pretty cool everyone liked viper plugins so much
    Mar 22, 2017 11:09 PM - Ranger: and blimps..? i just saw a movie with hot air balloons
    Mar 22, 2017 11:10 PM - vipervicki: lol you say blimps I think of harryhoot
    Mar 22, 2017 11:10 PM - Ranger: i think of blimps
    Mar 22, 2017 11:11 PM - Ranger: and balloons
    Mar 22, 2017 11:11 PM - vipervicki: all his maps had blimps
    Mar 22, 2017 11:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i just said, slaughtered and massacred are completely unalike in terms of gameplay
    Mar 22, 2017 11:12 PM - Ranger: i said blimps
    Mar 22, 2017 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: by the way send me a PM if you want admin on my server.
    Mar 22, 2017 11:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they may share topographical features, but they don't translate into similar situations
    Mar 22, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: new iceberg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lp5s7hv3crobie4/emp_iceberg_a4.rar?dl=0
    Mar 22, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: proper mapping thread soontm
    Mar 22, 2017 11:43 PM - Ranger: i like slaughtered cause of some memories and its mainstream
    Mar 22, 2017 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think slaughtered still hasnt been fully "cracked" in terms of strategy, it feels like there is still room for improvement there
    Mar 22, 2017 11:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the core is there but some things could still be fine-tuned
    Mar 22, 2017 11:52 PM - Xyaminou: well no map is "cracked" for strategy anymore because there are no more scrims
    Mar 22, 2017 11:53 PM - Xyaminou: so the level of strategy and planning is way lower than it used to be.
    Mar 22, 2017 11:53 PM - Xyaminou: if you've ever seen the picture of cyclopean with all the markers on it you know what I'm talking about.
    Mar 23, 2017 12:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh for sure, but at the same time even casual games develop a sort of meta, yet the relative simplicity of slaughtered still hasnt led us to a plateau
    Mar 23, 2017 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: it has for me, I am the meta, and the meta says rush heavies.
    Mar 23, 2017 12:14 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is precisely what i meant in my previous messages. there is a core, but the fine touches are still missing or obscure
    Mar 23, 2017 12:21 AM - Neoony: pretty sure I just managed to script the auto no comm extend time....just need to finish it up a bit...cant today...stay tuned :P
    Mar 23, 2017 12:22 AM - Xyaminou: <3
    Mar 23, 2017 12:40 AM - Xyaminou: removed wages from my server
    Mar 23, 2017 12:40 AM - Xyaminou: and changed recycling to give 1 point every 100 unit instead of 150
    Mar 23, 2017 12:41 AM - Xyaminou: let the hate flow
    Mar 23, 2017 12:41 AM - Neoony: but I still make a test version today :P
    Mar 23, 2017 12:41 AM - Neoony: https://github.com/Neoony/No-Commander-Extend-Vote/releases/tag/v0.1
    Mar 23, 2017 12:41 AM - Neoony: but I really gotta go sleep
    Mar 23, 2017 12:41 AM - Neoony: xD
    Mar 23, 2017 12:43 AM - Neoony: just dont use the _debug plugin :P
    Mar 23, 2017 12:43 AM - Neoony: I better make them separate xD
    Mar 23, 2017 12:44 AM - Neoony: done
    Mar 23, 2017 12:45 AM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 12:45 AM - Xyaminou: doesn't seem to be increasing the comm vote
    Mar 23, 2017 12:45 AM - Xyaminou: any specifics?
    Mar 23, 2017 12:46 AM - Xyaminou: oh no, nevermind, it just did.
    Mar 23, 2017 12:46 AM - Neoony: read readme
    Mar 23, 2017 12:46 AM - Neoony: and you are obviously using the debug version
    Mar 23, 2017 12:47 AM - Neoony: I made them separate on the download page now...just delete the _debug.smx plugin
    Mar 23, 2017 12:49 AM - Xyaminou: Great work by the way, thanks.
    Mar 23, 2017 12:50 AM - Neoony: np...still need to finish it up and somehow make some of the messages display only once and such
    Mar 23, 2017 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah basically a couple of config options such as "disable if there are less than X players on the server" or "how much time is added" and something so you can modify the text notifications and it'd pretty much perfect.
    Mar 23, 2017 12:54 AM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 12:54 AM - Xyaminou: <3
    Mar 23, 2017 12:55 AM - Neoony: :)
    Mar 23, 2017 12:56 AM - Xyaminou: I wonder what will happen with it running all night long, lol
    Mar 23, 2017 1:07 AM - Ranger: I just watched a movie called Idiocracy. scary
    Mar 23, 2017 1:14 AM - Xyaminou: you mean you played Empires, right? :p
    Mar 23, 2017 1:26 AM - Thexa4: Really love the graph where they plot the average IQ over time :)
    Mar 23, 2017 3:06 AM - Ranger: I like teh buttfuckerz!1
    Mar 23, 2017 3:21 AM - Ranger: i watched the butterfly effect now. i will go see if i can access the past through my memories brb
    Mar 23, 2017 3:22 AM - Ranger: well we access it by having memories. it doesnt mean we can edit it though, so access is not the right word hmm
    Mar 23, 2017 3:22 AM - Ranger: more like visit
     
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    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have read only access
    Mar 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM - Xyaminou: edited my post to highlight the removal of wages.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 12:44 PM - Xyaminou: so to answer my question about what was going to happen if I left it run all night: 42850 seconds on the variable
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:33 PM - Neoony: but its still comm vote right?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:33 PM - Neoony: thx for testing that xD
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:42 PM - Xyaminou: I didn't actually join, but I'd assume it was, yes.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:42 PM - Xyaminou: from the console output.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:46 PM - Xyaminou: changed low pop maps vehicle limit to 9 and tickets to 100.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: changed infantry map max_players limit to 14 because not enough maps between 10 and 14.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM - Xyaminou: changed flat's starting resources to 300 (200 + the starting ref which is unbuilt)
    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM - Xyaminou: from 100*
    Mar 23, 2017 at 2:20 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 at 2:25 PM - Xyaminou: it's a bit spammy but it works.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 2:25 PM - Spike: for those of you who dont play gren
    Mar 23, 2017 at 2:26 PM - Spike: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/gameplay-grenadier-class-tips.20871/#post-542129
    Mar 23, 2017 at 2:26 PM - Spike: i suggest you read that
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Xyaminou: could someone edit emp_bush for me to allow turrets to be placed?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Kidpaler: We would need the original VMF for that. If someone has it, yes. If not, no.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Kidpaler: A decompile would probably mess a lot of other stuff up
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:36 PM - flasche: you should be able to entspy edit that
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:37 PM - flasche: unless its noengibuildable brushes
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:37 PM - flasche: but i think its just the emp_info_params
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Xyaminou: what's with everyone telling me about entspy, no idea what that is, can't someone who knows what they're doing do it for me?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Kidpaler: Ah right
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Kidpaler: Entspy is like editing the map in hammer, I think
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:40 PM - flasche: http://www.bagthorpe.org/bob/cofrdrbob/entspy.html
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Kidpaler: I stand corrected, even better.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Xyaminou: I still wouldn't know what I'm looking for...
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Kidpaler: look for emp_info_params
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Kidpaler: in emp_info_params there should be a thing that restricts turret placement
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM - Kidpaler: Simply select "Allow level 1, 2, and 3 turrets"
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Xyaminou: emp_eng_restrict
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: yes
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: set it to 0
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: turretRestrict to 0?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM - flasche: yeah its odd
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM - flasche: i just opened it aswell
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: and emp_info_params has no emp_restrict things
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: eng_restrict
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: should do the job
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: what do you think I should name it?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: i mean eng_turret_restrict should do the job
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: or turretRestrict
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:47 PM - flasche: sigh
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM - flasche: but thats comm turrets i guess
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM - flasche: you must wait for someone who knows this i fear
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM - Xyaminou: or you know I can just test it
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:49 PM - flasche: well ok
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: oh wait, fuck me I just modified bush instead of flat, lol
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:49 PM - flasche: i think i got it
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Xyaminou: I meant emp_flat this whole time
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: restrictNF and restrictBE is to restrict none, walls or everything
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: restrictTurrets is for turrets
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: 0 should allow to build all turrets
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:51 PM - flasche: likewise 0 in restrictNF or BE means allow everything
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:51 PM - flasche: 2 means allow nothing
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:51 PM - flasche: 1 means disallow walls
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: there
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:52 PM - flasche: info_params seems to have no restrictions
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:52 PM - Avatarix: oh you read my post :3
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:52 PM - flasche: thats flat not bush xya
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:52 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I know I was talking about flat the entire time, it's the one that has turrets restricted, not bush.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: :D
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: sec
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: anyway, it didn't work, and it broke the minimap.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: yes 0 means allow all turrets
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM - flasche: 1 is lvl1&2
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM - flasche: 2 is lvl1
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM - flasche: 3 is no turrets
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Xyaminou: nvm it didn't save that's why
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flat vmf is gone with the wind, silk said that himself
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Xyaminou: okay yeah it worked, but minimap is still broke, is that because I renamed it?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you need a new resource file that has the same name as the bsp
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: how do I fix the minimap? just rename it too?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: 'kay
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the easiest way to do it is to copy the original flat file and rename it to match the new bsp
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the resource file will point to the original minimap files
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it'll be more messy in the .res file but only so slightly
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: nope, copied the old res file, renamed it to the new map but now the minimap is black it's even worse.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Xyaminou: can't select spawn points anymore
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: DO NOT RENAME MAP FILES
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: IT WILL BREAK CUBEMAPS
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: and then you will have shiny reflections on everything that is reflective like fe turrets or ammoboxes
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: also you need to edit the resourcefile
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: not the mapfile
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: its in resources/maps
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: I can't not rename it
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: it needs to be the same name as the map
    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: I can't modify it without renaming it or it'll differ from what people ahve
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM - flasche: yeah thats an issue
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just do it and hope cubemaps are fine
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if cubemaps are not fine, a decompile is the only surefire way
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Kidpaler: And then you run into a bunch of other issues
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: i wonder what the cubemap naming sceme is, you might be able to extract them from the bsp with that other tool which name i forgot (the one that lets you pack stuff into the bsp), rename and put it back in
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: ill do some research
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Xyaminou: well now it's not black anymore it's purple and black...
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: copy the cfg file as well
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: it's in resource/maps/
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - flasche: the minimap?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - flasche: you renamed the vmt?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: if you don't mind the extra filesize you can just run buildcubemaps in game
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM - flasche: rename it back
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - flasche: the vmt is referenced inside of that resource file
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: I didn't rename the vmt
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - flasche: ofc you could edit it aswell. either option should work
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: I renamed the bsp the res file and the resource file
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: or the file in resource/maps rather
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - PwnedYoAss: Hi Thexa, not sure if you're interested...
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - PwnedYoAss: But I was at GDC this year, checking out the AI Summit, and well one of the talks was super interesting. Here.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:03 PM - PwnedYoAss: http://www.cs.mun.ca/~dchurchill/pdf/aiide15_churchill_prismata.pdf
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - flasche: inside the resource file, does the texture point to the correct vmt. and inside the vmt does it point to the correct vtf?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: does the minimap have to be the same name as the file in resoures/maps or something?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - PwnedYoAss: The talk was about using search in game AI.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - flasche: also i think insdie the resource file the map name has to fit aswell
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - flasche: no xys
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - flasche: xya*
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: wait I think I know what it is
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:05 PM - flasche: as long as the resfile points to the correct vmt which then also points to the correct vtf it should be fine
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:05 PM - Xyaminou: fixed
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:06 PM - flasche: damn, how is that tool called that lets you pack materials or models into the bsp?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: and it looks just fine
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:06 PM - flasche: place a BE turret in the shadows
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:06 PM - flasche: if the reflections are weird the cubemaps are broke
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:07 PM - flasche: ah cool
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM - flasche: well that means i dont have to search for a solution seems to work
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM - flasche: i was damn sure i read something like "dont rename maps or cubemaps break" on the vavle wiki
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Thexa4: @PwnedYoAss: looks interesting but I'm not sure if it'll be applicable to empires
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Avatarix: @Thexa4 what did you got from him for empires?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Thexa4: 10 lines up: http://www.cs.mun.ca/~dchurchill/pdf/aiide15_churchill_prismata.pdf
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: I still need a naming convention for the maps I modified.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: any suggestions? 'cause just "_a1" isn't really representative.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Thexa4: what things did you change?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Kidpaler: do _fix
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Kidpaler: Since you fixed it
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: I removed the turret restriction on emp_flat and removed the 3res/s flag on palmbay
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: yeah fix sounds good.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Neoony: Mr. X. have you had my plugin tested with people? mainly 2 comms ready?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nubs' naming convention was to add _clX to the name
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: trickster's was to add a letter to the suffix
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: not yet, not enough players.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mine is to have 30 version so a complex naming system was developed
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche, maybe flat had none :p
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:26 PM - PwnedYoAss: Nah it's totally applicable. He used Starcraft as an example at one point. Most of it relies on hard coding but it can be used in just about anything. Admittedly, Prismata is turn based
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:26 PM - PwnedYoAss: It's simply a method of search that limits the search space to algorithms you've written.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:26 PM - PwnedYoAss: ... but then again that depends on what you want to do with the AI.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:28 PM - flasche: yeah destroyer thats probably it. i think if there are no cubemaps it falls back to the skybox.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: editing palmbay I noticed that all the res points are actually 1.5
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: which defaults to giving 1 res unless you have player scaling on or ref multiplier higher
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: I might just change that 'cause it means whenever it increases it'll increase to 3 if someone has player scaling enabled.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: then again I don't have it on my server, so don't really care.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:52 PM - flasche: thats something i always wondered are resources integers or only displayed as that?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: also if its integers, how is 0.1 treated? will it be integer rounded to 1 or mathematically rounded to 0?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: oh wait no
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: itd be 0
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: what about 0.6 tho
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM - flasche: what now i confused myself
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM - flasche: adfsasdfasdfas
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: from my testing it can't go below +1
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: but there is definitely some weird formula going on
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: like, I did some testing with a 1res/s refinery
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: damn the chat ate my message
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - flasche: nomnom
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: "and a 1.8 ref multiplier didn't give +2 but a 1.9 did"
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - flasche: i wish the chat ate my confusion ^^
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - flasche: thats weird
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: further more the other day we were playing on slaughtered
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: and we were gaining +21 res
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: which is not really possible
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: default was +4, +2, +2
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: we were above 24 so x3
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: so +12, +6, +6
    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: and slaughtered has a ref multiplier of 0.95 set in the config file
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: so depending on how it does it it'd be 24 if the ref multiplier is per refinery, or 23 if it's global.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: but it definitely shouldn't be 21, unless all 3 refineries are losing 1res/s because of that 0.95 ref multiplier, which they shouldn't, you'd need a ref generating 20 for it to lose 1res/s.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: All of this to say. I have no idea, would be nice if a dev could post the formulas behind it.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:07 PM - flasche: yes id also be interested
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: Well, couldn't that be because of the refinery damage?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: Depending on the damage, it would output less and less
    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: no because the resometer doesn't account for that
    Mar 23, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Spike: meow
    Mar 23, 2017 at 6:59 PM - vipervicki: woof!
    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: any good empires today?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: not enough players
    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: join and find out
    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have things to do
    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gunna do them live soon
    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: stream's up, gonna do some dev stuff and finish commjoust: www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (and then we empires if time permits)
    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Ranger: LOook at the prive differences https://steamdb.info/app/255710/
    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Ranger: price
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Spike: COME PLAY EMPIRES ON MRX'S SERVEER!!!!
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Spike: ress test
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Spike: stop sitting on the forums and come play empries
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:16 PM - Avatarix: no
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i need one good soul to test commjoust VO
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:37 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:37 PM - Xyaminou: vote plugin turned russian
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: testing emp_commjoust_a3 on my local server RIGHT now https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjzhmiyen3yrg3s/emp_commjoust_a3.rar?dl=0
    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:55 PM - Thexa4: downloading takes a while...
    Mar 23, 2017 at 10:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: audio is hard
    Mar 23, 2017 at 10:55 PM - Ranger: watafak, how many inches is ur monitor X?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:02 PM - vipervicki: where are u testingit?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: new voiceover
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's waaaay too silent though
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: everything dwarfs it because empires is so loud
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - vipervicki: downloaded very fast for me
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:04 PM - vipervicki: it s a small file
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh WHERE
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we're done already. I need to learn how to turn this thing up volume-wise because yay empires audio levels
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:09 PM - vipervicki: ah ok I fell asleep and just woke up sorry I missed it
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: Ranger, what do you mean? are you asking because of the screenshot?
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: my desktop is 23"
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:10 PM - vipervicki: left the house early this morning so I was beat this afternoon
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Ranger: Looks like 25 or something. mine is 21 or 22
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: it's just 1920x1080, don't know why it would look any bigger.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: standard resolution nowadays
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Spike: meow
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Ranger: nevermind my screen is 23 as well. the picture fits my screen perfectly when i open it. the site is weird, resized, horizontaly and vertically, or something.
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:15 PM - vipervicki: cant say that today spike its national Puppy Day ;)
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Ranger: Ok I will tell my cat to be a dog today
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:41 PM - vipervicki: jsut tell your cat to bark
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:43 PM - Neoony: https://github.com/Neoony/No-Commander-Extend-Vote/releases/tag/v0.2
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Neoony: quick update...not tested that much...no time D:
    Mar 23, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Neoony: but many new things and less spam
     
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    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:27 AM - Spike: DZ <3
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:36 AM - Spike: THERE
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:36 AM - Spike: now no one can say scout is shit
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:39 AM - Paradox: YERSO COOL SPIKE
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:39 AM - Paradox: typing a guide for a class makes a class not shit
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:39 AM - Paradox: #logics
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM - Spike: your so cool spike*
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM - PwnedYoAss: Scout should just have permanent melee upgrade as a part of its setup.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you're. What the fuck people
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM - PwnedYoAss: That'd solve the damned problem
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM - Spike: good point
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM - Spike: yerso isn't even a word
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this just motivates me to share my POV on the matter
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM - Spike: yeah scout needs melee upgrade permanent
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM - Spike: that would be great
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:43 AM - Spike: also i forgot to mention when your scout lead you get a speed boost for your squad
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:45 AM - Spike: Oh and squad hide is great
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM - PwnedYoAss: Squad recon too
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM - Paradox: Cause using correct grammar is cool
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM - Paradox: git real fam
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM - PwnedYoAss: I don't think that's a command for git paradox
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM - Paradox: i talk the way I wanna talk
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM - Paradox: spike basicly forgot to write 90 percent of what a scout can do
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM - Paradox: hes just like, scouts really good if you can get inside their rax and pew pew
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM - Paradox: lol
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM - Thexa4: git: 'real' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. Did you mean this? replace
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:50 AM - Paradox: Id go ahead and constructively deconstruct that guide, but whats the point everyones too stupid now a days
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM - Paradox: thexa btw, u need to scrap some resolutions
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM - Spike: well paradox if you have something constructive to add i suggest you do so instead of bitching like a child could you do that for me ?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM - Paradox: the ones smallers than squad menu, spawn menu etc all break the game
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM - Paradox: spike Im eagerly waiting before your next psychotic breakdown
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM - Paradox: its part of the empires cyclus
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:52 AM - Paradox: complain about not having airplanes, complain about devs, the mr die drama, spikes mental breakdown and dissapearence
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:52 AM - Paradox: they all come back every so often
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:52 AM - Spike: too late ive already had one i highly doubt ill have anymore
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Paradox: you'll have another pretty soon its fine
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Paradox: I just dont get how everyone falls for it
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Paradox: its hapend countless times this act of yours
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Paradox: but every single time people still bite hook line and sinker
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Spike: instead of bitching in the shout box please go into the scout guide thread and kindly add anything ive missed i know i missed out squad hide and what the scout can do as squad lead for the reason im going to do another guide on what each class can do as squad leader
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Paradox: i dont get it
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:55 AM - Spike: I really have no idea why you are yet again trying to stir shit
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:55 AM - Spike: oh wait i forgot its the only thing your good at
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can't figure out what paradox's problem is
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:05 AM - flasche: scnr, but its you're good at
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:05 AM - flasche: ::p
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:06 AM - flasche: god and i fucking fail fucking smileys...
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:21 AM - vipervicki: some people need to try and make someone feel bad so they can feel good
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM - Spike: I see nothing has really changed with paradox even though ive been gone for 6 month's
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:37 AM - Paradox: i just wanna make spike feel bad
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:38 AM - Paradox: he spreads shit like wildfire when hes playing, has been spreading shit before his comeback. All of a sudden hes back acts like an angel and everyone thinks hes a harmless puppy. OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE DONT FORGET THE PAST
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:41 AM - flasche: hes no puppy hes a kitten. :3
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Paradox: whats the one rule again about hitler always coming up in internet discussion
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Paradox: NEVER FORGET THE PAST
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Paradox: catface forgot the past and brought pas mrdie
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM - vipervicki: I don't think anyone is being fooled about spike, most of us know what he can be capable of.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: godwin's law
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:47 AM - vipervicki: espically those of us who have experienced it first.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:47 AM - vipervicki: hand.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: then why is everyone eating out of his hand
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: and asking me why im getting on his case
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what "eating" are you talking about?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: is that not a saying?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: eating out of ones hand?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: like ass kissing him
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Paradox: thinking hes an angel thats coming to save empires
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it is a saying, but you must have some reason, some examples of what you mean by that
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't see anything of the sort around here
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:50 AM - vipervicki: i dont see him as an angel saving anyhting i only hope he saves himself but your words to him seemed unrelated to his chat
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:59 AM - flasche: pot kettle black
    Mar 24, 2017 at 12:06 PM - Paradox: its not really pot kottle black
    Mar 24, 2017 at 12:06 PM - Paradox: I know im a cunt
    Mar 24, 2017 at 12:07 PM - Paradox: but I can admit to that hes acting like an angel thinking hes actually an angel
    Mar 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's not how admitting things works
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:03 PM - Xyaminou: I need to add a !drama command on my server that gives you some drama from the shoutbox
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just random quotes from people
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:05 PM - Xyaminou: pretty much
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:19 PM - Spike: drama is coming.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:20 PM - A-z-K: nope
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:22 PM - A-z-K: Did you know - On Good Friday in 1930, the BBC reported, "There is no news." Instead, they played piano music.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM - Spike: I remember hearing about that
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:24 PM - Spike: AZK
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:24 PM - Spike: why arnt you on steam dude
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:25 PM - Spike: I really hope we can get alot of people on tonight to stress test mrx's server
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM - Xyaminou: And then it can't handle and people quit, is the most likely outcome to be honest.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM - Avatarix: hmm, kay
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:30 PM - Avatarix: i'll try to be here today, but when exactly? do you aim 6 or 9pm EST?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:40 PM - A-z-K: im not on steam because I dunno, the temptation to game and not work
    Mar 24, 2017 at 1:54 PM - Ranger: you don't have to work of you are unemployed *eddy murphy meme here*
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: squadplay tonight?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:27 PM - Spike: Hopfully we can get enough people on mrx's teamplay server
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i will just scale the squadplay depending on how many folks are playing, shouldnt be hard
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 PM - Xyaminou: fixed fuel, main base refineries were indicated x2 on the minimap while in fact being 1.5
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 PM - Xyaminou: scaled them to x2
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:33 PM - Xyaminou: funny how I seem to be the only one noticing these things, I wonder what previous server owners have been doing...
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if it aint broken, dont fix it?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:44 PM - Xyaminou: it was...
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:44 PM - Xyaminou: it means instead of getting x4 x6 x8 and so on you'd get x2 x3 x4
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:44 PM - Xyaminou: pretty broken
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: anyway, I finish the first pass on refinery multiplier for higher pop maps.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: most of them are doubled, fuel is x1.5, blackmountain is x3
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Spike: blackmountian res is so low :<
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: some of them are still x1 because they just had twice as much res income as other maps.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: well not anymore
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Spike: badlands res is too low too
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Xyaminou: badlands isn't on the server
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Spike: its a small map :3
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Spike: not really much to look at
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Spike: good for low pop
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Xyaminou: it's unbalanced due to building placement being broken.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Xyaminou: got enough low pop maps anyhow.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:47 PM - Spike: ahh
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: test
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:50 PM - Spike: test
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:52 PM - A-z-K: didn't terminator nerf the res on fuel at some point? maybe the res change was by design but the minmap wasnt altered
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM - A-z-K: could be imagining that, i know it went through some quick iterations
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM - Xyaminou: either way, x1.5 refs are stupid because they first get stepped down to x1 and then scale with player amount or ref multiplier.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM - Xyaminou: I am just making it match the minimap, would rather have it that way.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:54 PM - Xyaminou: so yeah people, check the updated spreadsheet, tell me what you think.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 2:57 PM - A-z-K: fair play
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Avatarix: anyone here wants to cuddle?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Spike: i do :<
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:11 PM - Spike: Hopfully people will start joining about 6 pm bst
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Spike: or 7
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Avatarix: i'm trying to do homework and learn so ill be at like 7pm
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Xyaminou: tweaks tweaks oh so many of them.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: by the way to continue the conversation about slaughtered weird resources that we had yesterday, I found out that a res multiplier of 0.95 does in fact lower the main base ref from x4 to x3
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: which gives 3x3 + 3x2 + 3x3 = 21 so the numbers were right.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: So it comes back to what I said, why does a multiplier of 0.95 reduce a x4 ref to x3?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:35 PM - flasche: if its just typecast from float to int its what is to be expected.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Xyaminou: I'll be honest I never remember what int or float is.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: int is obviously integer but that still doesn't tick in my brain.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:40 PM - flasche: Integers are whole numbers.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:41 PM - flasche: floats are "decimals"
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:42 PM - Xyaminou: so what you're saying is that the x4 becomes x3.something and it's troncated to x3?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: truncated* apparently.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM - flasche: yes
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: well that's just some terrible programming.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:44 PM - flasche: yes/no - also im only guessing ;)
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: sry for being so short im on mobile, and soom im at a bday party
    Mar 24, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: soon*
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i suggested changung the refinery interval to 5 seconds some time ago but the idea was nuked due to scout sabotage becoming less effective on damaged refineries
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that would allow for more (not quite 1/20ths but 1/5ths and 1/10ths) flexibility to resource multipliers
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but hey, sabbed refs, amirite
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (scout sabotage and damage add a set amount of seconds to a refinery's interval)
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: I'm trying to setup advertisements for the the different commands on the server but can't seem to get the colors to work, anyone ideas?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=155705&page=204
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:51 PM - vipervicki: did you install the colorvariables.inc in scripting/includes?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I extracted the archive so it's in there.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM - vipervicki: i found only certian colors worked in the chat adverts not all in hint and menu other colors worked but not for chat adverts
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:53 PM - vipervicki: so far i know for surein chat adverts light green and green work i know orange doesnt
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:53 PM - vipervicki: havent tried any other for chat adverts
    Mar 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: I tried the default messages shipped with the plugin and those don't even show the proper colors, so don't know what going on.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:12 PM - vipervicki: either its broken or it deosnt work with empires
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:13 PM - vipervicki: tehres a different include you could try but youd have to edit the sp file and recompile
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:14 PM - vipervicki: i never botherd i dont care much if colors dont work..but does lightgreen and green work for you?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:14 PM - vipervicki: they should
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - vipervicki: hmm those 2 work for me are you putting it in the chat advert?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - vipervicki: i know orange works for the hint
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - vipervicki: hmm
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: "chat" "{default}If you are stuck type {green}"!us" {default}or {green}"!unstuck"."
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: that's one I tried
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM - vipervicki: did u change maps or restart server you need to do 1 or the otehr after isntalling aplugin
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: I did both
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM - vipervicki: ill show u what i have
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: thanks.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM - vipervicki: } "2" { "chat" "{green}Join Squads"
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:17 PM - vipervicki: dont put default
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:17 PM - vipervicki: i never did
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:17 PM - vipervicki: wellthe brackets are not formated right in chat
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:17 PM - vipervicki: "chat" "{green}Join Squads"
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:18 PM - vipervicki: "{lightgreen}Type rank and top10 to see stats."
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM - vipervicki: oh u have two ""
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM - vipervicki: "."
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: yeah but I just added them, wasn't working without them anyway
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:20 PM - vipervicki: use this as a template
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:20 PM - vipervicki: "{green}Current {lightgreen}Map: {default}{currentmap}"
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: did
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: jsut isner your own words andsee if it works
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: that's the default one I tried
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: k
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: it's not working
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: insert*
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: try making asimple one as a test
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM - vipervicki: oh ok
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: then i dunno becasue the lightgreen and green work so not sure whats wrong for you
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:22 PM - vipervicki: i know the hint box orange works
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: sometiems when u uplaod a whole folder it misses a file..so double check all needed files for the plguin are there
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:23 PM - vipervicki: after that i am out of ideas
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Ranger: turn it off and on?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: renger pls
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:55 PM - Ranger: btw. someone said we should try getting back vets that quit empires long time ago. u gotta go check every clan group ever made and look for people there.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Avatarix: @destroyer can i attend squadplay?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Ranger: you will have to get permission from ur parents first
    Mar 24, 2017 at 6:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: @Avatarix:
    Mar 24, 2017 at 6:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: need i say more?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Xyaminou: time to populate Empires guys, let's get some good games in today.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 7:27 PM - Kidpaler: I'd like to play King at least once this weekend
    Mar 24, 2017 at 7:34 PM - Xyaminou: that would be great
    Mar 24, 2017 at 9:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: even i wouljd like to stress test my server with the new puglins i put whot wants in!!!!
    Mar 24, 2017 at 9:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: FYI !fartpack is now a voted command
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:28 PM - vipervicki: do it on a time when mr x isnt doing his
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM - vipervicki: over the weekend would be good people are usually playing more then.
    Mar 24, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Ranger: article says greece is 5th most sexually satisfied country in the world. HAHAHAHA .....................
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they would have been 4th were itn ot your sorry bum :P
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not for*
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM - complete_: im having problem after problem playing this game. am i the only person with motd problems and random crashing?
    Mar 24, 2017 at 11:38 PM - vipervicki: verify the files in properties of game
    Mar 25, 2017 at 12:16 AM - complete_: did so and its a little better but i still crash
    Mar 25, 2017 at 12:20 AM - Ranger: disney fucking up my fav female character in their remake of mulan gg wp. what is this? so when old artists leave, they're replaced by stupid tits?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Ranger: i hate unnecessary changes in the story
     
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    Mar 25, 2017 at 1:35 PM - Xyaminou: need someone to help me test something on my server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 1:47 PM - Paradox: what u need
    Mar 25, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Xyaminou: Here is a plugin to transfer players from one server to another: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxQWn9jKBIAJR0ZpVFdvWnJRWms
    Mar 25, 2017 at 2:35 PM - Xyaminou: I'm hoping everyone can install that so we can transfer the players from one server to another without losing population.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 2:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that is pretty smart
    Mar 25, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: I like to think so.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Paradox: it'd be great if we could use it to switch between EU -> NA or the other wa around when we see more people are EU or more people are NA
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:28 PM - vipervicki: if that does transfers or redirect players to another server its illegal against valves policies sm had to remove all their plugins that redirected people from one server to another.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Paradox: ITs a manual command to transfer them from 1 server to another
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:31 PM - vipervicki: many games hard code blocking a connect command because its against valves polices..just for you fyi if that plugins does redirect or transfer players from one server to another.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - vipervicki: who does the commnad the player or the server?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - Paradox: Its to optimize connections for the majority of the players. Doubt valve is going to come sue us over it.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - Paradox: Admin has to just select it in the menu
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - Paradox: then everyone gets auto connected to another server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - vipervicki: if its server side its agianst its agaisnt their policy
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM - vipervicki: your taking a chance thats not allowed
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM - vipervicki: up to you tho
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM - Paradox: Sure
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM - Paradox: I think its for the good of the game
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM - Paradox: that we have this
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM - vipervicki: i dont break polcies , if you want to thats your decsion
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:34 PM - vipervicki: and not sure if it puts empires in ejopardy or jsut the servers involved
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Paradox: Ok sure
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Paradox: It definitly puts empires as a whole in jeapordy
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:34 PM - vipervicki: jeopardy
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Paradox: valves going to come over and shut us down cause xya made a plugin
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Paradox: thats a thing valve does
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - vipervicki: like i said u do what you want i jsut thought you should al know its not allowed
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Paradox: Cause they are an evil coorporation hell bend on taking down mods with less than 50 players
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Paradox: you arent just syaing it, you are constantly repeating it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Paradox: for some reason
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:35 PM - vipervicki: u wont shut up about it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:36 PM - vipervicki: i informed u and u kept giving me bs answers
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:39 PM - TheCreeper: Well, since the plugin also vilotes SourceMods policy you can easily report it to them and have it blacklisted. This prevents the plugin from being loaded on any server with SourceMod installed.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM - vipervicki: i wont report it but someone might I could care less.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:42 PM - Xyaminou: I didn't make the plugin btw
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: it's like 10 years, but yeah I'm sure they're gonna take it down now.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Xyaminou: years old*
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Paradox: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:44 PM - Paradox: i wont shut up about it?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:44 PM - Paradox: go through the chat agian and read how you keep repeating its against the policies and acting like you are an angel and never break any
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:45 PM - vipervicki: guess yu cant read or count look how many answers i gave and how muc empty bs you gave
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Paradox: sure vicki
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Paradox: what ever u like
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Paradox: im not going to continue with this talk
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:46 PM - vipervicki: i stopped u continued it..guess u cudnt see that either
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Paradox: what ever floats your boat
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:47 PM - TheCreeper: Well, it could probably be a blocked command in Empires since it's blocked everywhere else for this very reason.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:47 PM - TheCreeper: should probably*
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:48 PM - Paradox: lets get thexa on that immediatly
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:48 PM - TheCreeper: Sure, a couple of lines of code and it's done :)
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Paradox: paging internet lawyer thexa
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Paradox: empiresmod is in danger, a plugin could shut down the entire game!
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: honestly, i see the potential for abuse, but the intended functionality is nice
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:55 PM - JustGoFly: You guys are out of control
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:56 PM - vipervicki: yeah there use dto be sm plugins fr it years ago until sm and valve changed their policies
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: If someone wants to cause fucking abuse there are 1000000 ways to do that.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Xyaminou: you guys are just grasping at straws finding an excuse, don't even know why.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM - PwnedYoAss: Can't even find a mention of this policy, from a basic search I just find more server redirect plugins...
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM - vipervicki: the plguins of redirect now dont auto transfer anymore
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM - PwnedYoAss: Does Valve have a page for this stuff?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM - vipervicki: gives the players menu and the players need to click it or not
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM - vipervicki: yes
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Xyaminou: Who gives a fuck Vicki, seriously. You're the only one that have a problem with it.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM - vipervicki: i found this out when iwanted to transfer between my 2 css servers and saw the plugisn remvoed
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM - PwnedYoAss: Got a link to the page?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM - vipervicki: i dont have aproblem withit ugusy r so dumb cant even read
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:59 PM - vipervicki: i was jsut letting u know i said idont car eif u use it or not so learn to read
    Mar 25, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: "just letting me know" takes one message, not 50.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:00 PM - vipervicki: guess u cant count either
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:00 PM - PwnedYoAss: Can't find the page but I'm starting to find other posts mentioning it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:00 PM - vipervicki: you as good in counting as putting up a server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Paradox: the server might not be ideal
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Paradox: but atleast we are trying to improve the game
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Paradox: for everyone
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:02 PM - A-z-K: Moar serverz please
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:02 PM - PwnedYoAss: So a plugin like that is... valid if you give players consent.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM - PwnedYoAss: Easy, just give the player a prompt. Problem solved.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Paradox: play on the server = automatic consent
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM - A-z-K: 9 servers no enough. Need a round number.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM - PwnedYoAss: Not sure if that counts Paradox, without the actual statement from Valve we can't assume that
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM - flasche: i like 9
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - TheCreeper: Yes, you can display a prompt to them asking if they wish to be redirected. Anything else however doesn't count.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - PwnedYoAss: ... seriously where the fuck is the statement from Valve? A bunch of random server owners keep mentioning it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - A-z-K: 9 is very bad number. Displeases the gods. The gods want 10
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Paradox: are we really going to talk about semantics
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Paradox: like we are a sourcemod
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Paradox: with not even 75 playres at peak
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Paradox: they dont fucking care lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - flasche: what gods are that
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Paradox: lets be real guys
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM - A-z-K: what's valve done?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:05 PM - PwnedYoAss: Something about automatic server redirection plugins not being allowed
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:05 PM - A-z-K: @flasche Korne & Nurgle
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:05 PM - PwnedYoAss: But what they mean by "automatic server redirection" is up in the air because apparently no one has a damned source
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:06 PM - flasche: uh better not say shit then
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: should I ask for the consent to close my server too while you're at it?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: or to fucking change the map, or to kick someone? or to join
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Paradox: lets go back to the 1 server monopoly
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Paradox: thats basicly what they want
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Avatarix: and they always will want
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:07 PM - A-z-K: I liked it when we had round numbers
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:07 PM - A-z-K: 5 or 10
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:08 PM - LT.: From a legal standpoint Negative Consent isn't a valid form of authentication unless sent in an e-mail. To simplify, a prompt wouldn't suffice
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Avatarix: i prefer even numbers tbh
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Paradox: ITS A FUCKING EMPIRES SERVER
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - A-z-K: I will sign my house over to Mr X right now
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Paradox: HOLY SHIT
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Paradox: WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT ALL THE LEGALITY OF A PLUGIN
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Paradox: litterally only you 3 people
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Avatarix: certainly you because capslock ;)
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - A-z-K: I'll sign over Paradox's house too
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Paradox: its like we are redirecting people to some illegal hellhole that sell drugs and crack cocaine
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - LT.: sign his mother over to me too
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Paradox: youll have to go over to the cemtary and dig her out
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Avatarix: don't you have your own mothers?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Paradox: sounds like a fun nightly activity
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - A-z-K: You are redirecting to Anitaliks?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - LT.: giggidy giggidy
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - A-z-K: qq no....
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:10 PM - A-z-K: Waaaaaaaaa
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:11 PM - Paradox: people jelly cause my mom cooler than theirs
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: It's funny, when I posted this I never thought in a million years that it would create drama, and yet here we are. This community really is something.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:11 PM - LT.: she on ice brau, just the way I like it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: this community?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: you mean the owners of the ex monopoly server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Avatarix: Na2CO3 + Ca(OH)2 -> 2NaOH + CaCO3
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - PwnedYoAss: I mean, Valve can quite literally VAC ban you for shit like this, worth checking out
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Paradox: noone else gives a fuck
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - PwnedYoAss: and honestly the more I'm looking the more i'm confused
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:12 PM - LT.: But don't they not own a server anymore?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - A-z-K: I for one am outraged
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - PwnedYoAss: It seems Valve simply patched out a command you could have used for auto redirection in the plugins
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Paradox: they are only seeding another server constantly, handing over all maps and plugins to that one server hmmmm
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - A-z-K: (I've literally no idea what is going on, I'm just procrastinating going outside and doing work)
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - PwnedYoAss: Along with that, for TF2 they released a statement called the "Policy of Truth" which I suppose covers shit like this
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Paradox: not at all suspicious
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - LT.: Misfire's?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - PwnedYoAss: Sounds like to me as long as you can find a plugin that does redirection that's not been taken down, you're in the clear
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM - PwnedYoAss: So all's good in the neighborhood X
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: I wonder, what department is responsible for going around killing random servers for obsquire games
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: obscure*
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: the deparent of magic?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - A-z-K: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: department *
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Avatarix: Departament of Stolen Hats in TF2
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: I can already imagine 2 guys and a girl sitting in a dim lit room, scavenging the internet for people who make malicious plugins
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: on games with atleast less than 100 players
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Paradox: on slowdays they migh even bite for 200 players or less
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Avatarix: even 200?!
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: :D
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - PwnedYoAss: I know you're being ultra hyperbolic about it to make a point, but like... considering this community consists of mostly crabs
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - PwnedYoAss: Like crabs in a bucket
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Paradox: what they do is send you a threatening letter with lots of love and cuddles
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Paradox: and politely ask you to take it down
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - PwnedYoAss: Good to cover your ass
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Avatarix: especially cuddles
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM - vipervicki: lol u and dt crying over seeding a server is too funny
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Avatarix: looking at you seeding with changed nick is even funnier
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM - vipervicki: never in all the eyars here with any server NO one cried about anyone seeding servers, its what you do when you want a server poluated..
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Paradox: Im only seeding in the weekends
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Paradox: because I wanna play on a server with competent admins
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Avatarix: well, now we did and theres nothing wrong with bitching
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Paradox: i couldnt give less on weekdays when im not one
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - vipervicki: and whatseven funnier we didnt go itno the server last week until people joined
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - A-z-K: I'll seed for bitcoin
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Avatarix: and people when seed in most games actually play after seeded
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Avatarix: *they seeded
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Paradox: whats even funnier is you are seeding a server and not even playing the game
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - Avatarix: not sit afk 2x/day
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM - vipervicki: call the cops someone seeded a server Oh my how awful
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Paradox: lol I didnt come over with the seeding argument
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Avatarix: no, we are just proving you that your adminig is pretty shite compared to others
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Paradox: i never cried about seeding
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - vipervicki: this u find wrong but using aplugin that break valves polcity is fine LOL you guys are so messed up
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Paradox: yet you come in and throw something out there like
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - vipervicki: seed your damn servers if u want players its that simple
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Paradox: lol u and dt crying over seeding a server is too funny
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Avatarix: yeah, i sure am messed up for using it :grinnf:
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM - vipervicki: anyway this convo is too stupid continue amongst yourselves
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Avatarix: maybe we should imprison people who use this plugin in Monopoly prison?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Avatarix: ur st00pid 2 <3
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Paradox: amongst yourselves
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM - A-z-K: We should have a server battle to the death
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Paradox: its litterally you vs the rest
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: It's funny every time I see Vicki in the middle of drama I remember when she said "I'm stepping down from VIPER because I hate being at the center of drama"
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Paradox: pathetic how little you care about the actual game
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: and yet here you are, purposefully jumping right into it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Paradox: and how much you care about having people worship the server you support
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: always placing yourself right in the middle of it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM - A-z-K: I hate drama more than you
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM - A-z-K: I'm the best at drama hating
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Paradox: someones furiously mashing their keyboard creating a report to valve about some small mod using a forbidding plugin
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:22 PM - Paradox: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:22 PM - vipervicki: azk you're simply the best..always
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:23 PM - A-z-K: Fucking right. I'm terrible at empires though
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:23 PM - vipervicki: me too who cares we got a life
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:24 PM - A-z-K: I dunno, I'll hav eot loook into getting one of those
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: and latkes
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:24 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:24 PM - A-z-K: You know what this feels like. Theres a street in London called Brick Lane. It's got like a million curry houses
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - A-z-K: and as you walk down the street gusy chase you down the street inviting you into their establishment
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: i know brits like curry alot i dont like it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: i dont like middle eastern spices
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - A-z-K: You know they offer you free drinks and such, buffet deals and whatever
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - vipervicki: ahh cool
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM - LT.: Can't we all just stop bitching and join up and play
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - LT.: I get we all have differieng views
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Paradox: everyone whos good at empires now officially doenst hve a lif anymore
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - A-z-K: But if you walk down the street like just before dinner time when there isn't many people about yet - it's like throwing a ham into a tank of piranas. You can't walk for all these gusy trying to sell you curry
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - LT.: what do you mean?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Paradox: pack up your baggs boys
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - A-z-K: Thats Empires right now
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:26 PM - LT.: like they have jobs, etc.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:27 PM - vipervicki: lol azk
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM - LT.: it sucks, but I guess we all gotta work, to pay the bills, so we can afford to play empires
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM - A-z-K: I steal stuff. Works jus as well
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM - LT.: I just don't think a single GTX1080Ti is enough to play
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM - LT.: need to work more to get 2 of them to have a stable framerate
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:33 PM - vipervicki: LOL AZK i wanna sell one of my stores im getting tired of working around the clock and always havingto be at the pc
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:34 PM - vipervicki: even when im out i gotta deal with customers :(
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:38 PM - PwnedYoAss: You manage a bunch of stores?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM - vipervicki: built online stores
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM - vipervicki: run manage etc
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM - vipervicki: for the last 15 years
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:46 PM - vipervicki: im tired of it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:46 PM - vipervicki: i wanna keep my 3 small ones and sell the big one
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:46 PM - vipervicki: too muhc work and not enough profit
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:53 PM - PwnedYoAss: Ahhhh, ok
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:54 PM - vipervicki: if i made enouhg profit to hire a product mgr or some worker it wud be better but i dont so alll the work is done by me from a-z
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: breaking policy happens everywhere all the time and in most cases nobody bats an eyelid
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: easy example, speeding
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or jaywalking
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: people jaywalk across my street EVERY DAY when going to work
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:56 PM - TheCreeper: I'm not sure that's true. Valve have being known to blacklist servers and SourceMod blocks plugins all the time.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: never seen anyone get in trouble over it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:56 PM - TheCreeper: You don't need to look far for proof of that.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can also find examples of people being punished for speeding and jaywalking
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hell i paid a ticket once
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:58 PM - TheCreeper: Doesn't mean it's ok. In any case, nothing against the policy if you display a prompt instead of force connecting people.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: don't get me wrong, i don't endorse breaking rules, but rules are being broken a lot of the time and nothing comes of that
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^ what you said would be a perfect way to handle this imo
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd sure be upset if someone made me change servers without permission of any sort, but if a prompt showed up asking me to switch because somethingsomething it'd be better, that's totally fine
    Mar 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM - LT.: Yea, but you need to know that a prompt does not suffice
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM - LT.: A workaround isposting it on the motd
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what do you mean?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM - LT.: here needs to be a record of it for all palyers
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM - LT.: Ok - what ayou are talking about is called negative consent
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM - TheCreeper: I was only stating what is allowed by the policy rather than what is legal.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM - LT.: it's essentially implied consent from all palyers on the server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM - LT.: a prompt is only relavent to players at a given time on the server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as is reconnecting all the players at a given time to a different server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:02 PM - LT.: it makes sesne if you did it straight away, but if oyu posted a warning on the motd that this is what happens, then also do the prompt ahead of changing everyone has no grounds to complain
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:02 PM - TheCreeper: So it's ilegal then also?
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:02 PM - LT.: I can't argue as to it being legal or illegal. I can only tell you as a fact that if a player doesn't have a copy of an agreement, they are not bound by it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:03 PM - TheCreeper: ah
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:03 PM - LT.: I'm not saying this a legal issue. I'm merely saying that nobody can argue with transparency
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:03 PM - LT.: If it's noted at the motd, and a prompt is sent out before the action is executed. nobody can fault the server admins
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM - TheCreeper: Yeah
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM - LT.: a prompt can be dismissed ewasily, the motd is a matter of record that appears before each round. the player must knowingly hit ok or x to dismiss it
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM - LT.: that's where you have your loophole in relation to are you abiding by vavles policies or not
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM - LT.: Now I've never really dealt with valve, but I would find it difficult for them to put up an argument against forewarning an entire server at the start of each round in addition to a soft prompt
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM - LT.: Not condoing the server change plugin, as I personally think it's distatseful, but I don't want to see empires in trouble over soething deemed against policy
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Paradox: holy cow who the fuck cares
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:08 PM - LT.: your mom cares
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Paradox: you better call 911 cause of how serious you are taking a fucking plugin
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Paradox: lets mail everyone a PDF contract for consent
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:08 PM - LT.: about as serious about your statement that she is 6 feeet under
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Paradox: after they join the server
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:09 PM - TheCreeper: Sounds like a plan paradox.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:09 PM - TheCreeper: Better get to work on that PDF contract.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:10 PM - LT.: Bring the laughing gas paradox
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:10 PM - LT.: you bring the lols, i'll bring the contract
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:14 PM - vipervicki: the only reason I mention it was to inform since i figured u didn't know, if i wanted to get it removed i would have said nothing and just reported it, but i guess that's too complicated for you guys to figure out.
    Mar 25, 2017 at 5:14 PM - TheCreeper: ^
    Mar 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Ranger: manboobs
    Mar 25, 2017 at 6:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ranger bringing the balance to the force
    Mar 25, 2017 at 6:24 PM - A-z-K: Balance, what is this balance you speak of
    Mar 25, 2017 at 6:24 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's when left equals right
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:19 PM - Ranger: Balance is Fus
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:20 PM - Ranger: Force is Fus*
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Ranger: Balance is Ro
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:59 PM - Neoony: 0.4 btw :P
    Mar 25, 2017 at 7:59 PM - Neoony: https://github.com/Neoony/No-Commander-Extend-Vote/releases
    Mar 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Kidpaler: Lord
    Mar 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Kidpaler: If your here, theres a glitch in Minigames
    Mar 25, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Ranger: I thought you were invoke Jesus Christ the saviour, to save Minigames
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i actually feel bad about how dnd went tonight
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: kinda not how i envisioned it
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:19 AM - Xyaminou: never is
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:28 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but sometimes like today it goes "very" not how i envisioned it
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i sort of ran the possibility of party acting the way it did all the way to the fort
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but the way todays events went largely didnt cross my mind
    Mar 26, 2017 at 3:15 AM - Lawliet: Anyone else excited for this PUG tomorrow?
     
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    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:10 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Geforce GTX 1050s are cheap
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:10 AM - CRITAWAKETS: im probably upgrading soon
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:18 AM - Sgt.Security: Y ou should get 1060 if you are getting an upgrade anyway, unless 1050 is hitting your budget.
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:25 AM - A-z-K: 1070 and 1080 are gonna drop like a stone soon I reckon
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:29 AM - Lazybum: 480s are nice too, if they are cheaper then the 1060
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:29 AM - Lazybum: I wonder how the 470 compares to the 1050 though
    Mar 26, 2017 at 11:02 AM - Xyaminou: toxic DnD was toxic
    Mar 26, 2017 at 11:23 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: toxic dnd? O_o
    Mar 26, 2017 at 12:28 PM - Ranger: intoxicated by toxic toxins
    Mar 26, 2017 at 1:13 PM - Lazybum: plz stop, you making me miss the shenigans
    Mar 26, 2017 at 1:15 PM - Xyaminou: Oh you wouldn't have missed these kinds...
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there were vampires and a staggering lack of crossbows
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i amended that for future situations; make sure each guard patrol has a complementing set of equipment
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:28 PM - Xyaminou: All I can say is that if you're going for the most incompetent guards ever seen in RPG campaigns, you're doing very well.
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's 100% not the intention
    Mar 26, 2017 at 2:36 PM - Xyaminou: Aww, D, I was giving you a way out.
    Mar 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm owning up to the mistake there. I straight up forgot that maybe a crossbow would be nice
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:10 PM - Paradox: the sweet taste of victory
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:13 PM - Ranger: paradox
    Mar 26, 2017 at 5:17 PM - Paradox: ?
    Mar 26, 2017 at 7:05 PM - Lawliet: Pug starting soon
    Mar 26, 2017 at 7:18 PM - Spike: yeah
    Mar 26, 2017 at 7:18 PM - Spike: and lawiet
    Mar 26, 2017 at 7:18 PM - Spike: your commanding
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Lawliet: I can only stay for 1.5 hours
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:22 PM - Avatarix: hey guys, can i have some Drama Noodles too?
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:26 PM - Avatarix: wow that's a lotta members online for sure
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:27 PM - Thexa4: Slightly more than are playing right now, if we all join we have a new record :)
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:27 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Lawliet: take my money dammit
    Mar 26, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Spike: join for the pug
     
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    Mar 27, 2017 5:39 AM - Ranger: Turrets Hurt Bullets.
    Mar 27, 2017 6:47 AM - Kidpaler: Before I get off for the night
    Mar 27, 2017 6:47 AM - Kidpaler: http://imgur.com/WBC03LO
    Mar 27, 2017 6:47 AM - Kidpaler: Vehicle tutorial area :D
    Mar 27, 2017 11:03 AM - A-z-K: cool
    Mar 27, 2017 11:05 AM - A-z-K: BE fucking loves standardised cargo pallets. No wonder they outpace NF technologically - they have a much better logistics chain.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that looks much better with lighting
    Mar 27, 2017 12:11 PM - flasche: looks good as a blockout - the one or the other detail pass definately wont hurt tho.
    Mar 27, 2017 12:11 PM - flasche: why i always have to be so negaitve :(
    Mar 27, 2017 1:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah there's definitely a few obvious things to change like the sharp change from wall to roof
    Mar 27, 2017 1:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but lighting's where it's at yo, this shit's ugly in hammer
    Mar 27, 2017 1:19 PM - Xyaminou: Err, how do I update my server?
    Mar 27, 2017 1:32 PM - Xyaminou: Tried... Failed... I have no idea. Probably should update the wiki...
    Mar 27, 2017 1:33 PM - Xyaminou: can't even test my new admin commands :(
    Mar 27, 2017 1:40 PM - Thexa4: Through steam, you can verify your game cache and it should update
    Mar 27, 2017 1:40 PM - Thexa4: (if you don't see an update, restarting steam helps)
    Mar 27, 2017 1:43 PM - Neoony: or -autoupdate parameter?
    Mar 27, 2017 2:06 PM - Xyaminou: what game cache?
    Mar 27, 2017 2:07 PM - Xyaminou: my server doesn't show on steam, so don't know how I'm supposed to verify anything.
    Mar 27, 2017 2:10 PM - Xyaminou: I tried steamcmd autoupdate stuff, none of it worked. No idea.
    Mar 27, 2017 2:25 PM - vipervicki: use the bat file cyberkiller postedjust edit it with your own path
    Mar 27, 2017 2:25 PM - vipervicki: or my bat file i posted wither one
    Mar 27, 2017 2:26 PM - vipervicki: either
    Mar 27, 2017 2:26 PM - Xyaminou: posted where?
    Mar 27, 2017 2:26 PM - vipervicki: hang on ill try and find it
    Mar 27, 2017 2:28 PM - vipervicki: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/how-to-set-up-ded-server.20000/#post-522952
    Mar 27, 2017 2:28 PM - vipervicki: mine and his are there
    Mar 27, 2017 2:29 PM - vipervicki: try his first some had a problem with mine but it works if done right
    Mar 27, 2017 2:35 PM - Xyaminou: why does the app id doesn't match the one on the wiki?
    Mar 27, 2017 2:36 PM - Xyaminou: I feel like if I use that it's just gonna break everything
    Mar 27, 2017 2:38 PM - vipervicki: not sure whats in the wiki but thats what I used when I had viper unless the app id changed that you need to as thexa
    Mar 27, 2017 2:38 PM - vipervicki: and what cyberkiller used for epic
    Mar 27, 2017 2:43 PM - vipervicki: or jsut look up the app id on steam
    Mar 27, 2017 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: nvm there's another bat
    Mar 27, 2017 2:45 PM - Xyaminou: still not sure it won't break everything...
    Mar 27, 2017 2:52 PM - Xyaminou: so does it need to be in the empires folder or in the folder below? it's really not clear at all.
    Mar 27, 2017 2:53 PM - vipervicki: dont recall let me look in my viper files and to check if you have the update bat open with notepadd ++ and it should say update in it i think
    Mar 27, 2017 2:53 PM - Xyaminou: "::This script will download/update a server in the directory that the .bat script lives in"
    Mar 27, 2017 2:54 PM - vipervicki: ok good
    Mar 27, 2017 2:54 PM - Xyaminou: except in his archive he put it in "emptest" folder which the other bat is set to run
    Mar 27, 2017 2:54 PM - Xyaminou: so they're contradicting each other
    Mar 27, 2017 2:54 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't make sense.
    Mar 27, 2017 2:55 PM - vipervicki: im in the middle of a project when I can break ill check out his zip file
    Mar 27, 2017 2:55 PM - vipervicki: or try mine in the meantime
    Mar 27, 2017 3:00 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah no it's not working
    Mar 27, 2017 3:01 PM - vipervicki: ok i got another minute..mines not working?
    Mar 27, 2017 3:01 PM - vipervicki: u need a txt file along with the bat file
    Mar 27, 2017 3:05 PM - vipervicki: ok yeh his is confusing butfrom what I gather
    Mar 27, 2017 3:06 PM - vipervicki: Update Source 2013 Server that does not go in the empires directory
    Mar 27, 2017 3:06 PM - vipervicki: and this one does Update Empires
    Mar 27, 2017 3:06 PM - vipervicki: Update Empires.bat but gotta get bk to my project
    Mar 27, 2017 3:11 PM - Thexa4: how did you install the server?
    Mar 27, 2017 3:12 PM - Thexa4: there is now a steam tool to install the dedicated server
    Mar 27, 2017 3:12 PM - Thexa4: you shouldn't install it using the source dedicated server package anymore
    Mar 27, 2017 3:15 PM - vipervicki: are u referring to steam cmd?
    Mar 27, 2017 3:15 PM - Xyaminou: it's done guys, smithy helped me.
    Mar 27, 2017 3:15 PM - Xyaminou: and I updated the wiki.
    Mar 27, 2017 3:15 PM - vipervicki: ok
    Mar 27, 2017 3:15 PM - vipervicki: i figured the wiki had the wrong id app
    Mar 27, 2017 3:16 PM - Acolyte: Thanks Mr X
    Mar 27, 2017 3:17 PM - Xyaminou: remind me to write down more stuff if I ever get done with adding stuff to my server.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:05 PM - Neoony: Gotta say I like Xs changes on the server from the little I played on it...those super long never ending rounds for example on ESB are super fucking boring (not sure how other servers are set up, guess its a default thing)
    Mar 27, 2017 4:07 PM - Neoony: This economy needs to get adjusted in that same way in default empires.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:07 PM - Neoony: similar way*
    Mar 27, 2017 4:07 PM - Paradox: I think Xya did a great job with the income. But I really would like wages back. Not 20 per point, but even 5 per point would be enough
    Mar 27, 2017 4:08 PM - Paradox: if I get 100 points I wanna get into a fucking tank without having to wait or build a no armor no waepons tank just to be first
    Mar 27, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: from an infantryman's standpoint xya's changes are great
    Mar 27, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: less bloody tanks you can barely scratch with your arsenal
    Mar 27, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: have yet to try a vehicular approach though
    Mar 27, 2017 4:13 PM - Neoony: only thing is that the games very often end on no tickets and its usually the losing team eventually winning...not exactly a bad thing...but maybe that has something to do with overall game balance
    Mar 27, 2017 4:13 PM - Neoony: I would guess shit is just weak
    Mar 27, 2017 4:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think it's a number of problems that contribute to that situation
    Mar 27, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: tickets are shit thats all to it
    Mar 27, 2017 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: I also lowered the tickets on most maps so that's probably why it more often end with no tickets. Feel free to comment on the spreadsheet which maps you think ahve too little tickets or resources.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: Wages will most likely stay the way they are right now for another 3 weeks, for further testing.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:26 PM - flasche: if it needs tickets to end a round, then its either a map problem (1st look there), or an overall balancing issue (2nd point of failure)
    Mar 27, 2017 4:26 PM - Paradox: tickets should run down between 45-60 minutes.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:26 PM - Paradox: on a 20 v 20 match or 15 v15
    Mar 27, 2017 4:27 PM - flasche: games should be won in 45-60minutes
    Mar 27, 2017 4:27 PM - flasche: and not by tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: from what we've played they did run out between 40-60 minutes.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: Except for cyclopean which was a bug.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:28 PM - Neoony: Just I noticed often the winning team being quite confident and then 0 tickets and then they lose....that seems to happen often xD
    Mar 27, 2017 4:29 PM - Neoony: but rather the problem isnt not enough tickets...the rounds should be much more decided at that point
    Mar 27, 2017 4:30 PM - Xyaminou: I firmly believe that if we make the game harder people will adapt and play better.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:30 PM - Xyaminou: Maybe we'd even get back to skill levels we used to have.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:32 PM - flasche: i think the reduction of income improves the game a lot. saving tickets is no nice mechanic tho
    Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM - Neoony: yep :P
    Mar 27, 2017 4:36 PM - flasche: even without tickets reviving is great. it means you stay at the front to keep the pressure up and dont get pushed back.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: Okay looks like that bug on drygulch is fixed
    Mar 27, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: I must have been right about it not liking the 4th decimal.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: ah good, i was just going to ask about that after my rambling about how i hate district
    Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM - flasche: damn freud
    Mar 27, 2017 4:38 PM - Xyaminou: Well the thing is if there were no tickets (and wages) people tend to just rush jeeps mindlessly into your base or even smartly to kill your radar
    Mar 27, 2017 4:38 PM - Xyaminou: I've seen mikleo do it a lot and end up with 30+ tickets used (but he did take down the radar consistantly).
    Mar 27, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: And the team did not run out of tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: that should be punished.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:39 PM - flasche: but one could also see that as an issue with jeeps just having a too high survivability, no?
    Mar 27, 2017 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: I suppose yeah, but my fix is much easier.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: I also "grew up" with lower tickets and resources so I guess there's always a bit of nostalgia in there.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: did we? (in terms of tickets)
    Mar 27, 2017 4:42 PM - flasche: i really cant remember :D
    Mar 27, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: I think so.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: like, for example, if you look at the .cfg files for the maps included in the default Empires download, most maps have a ticket multiplier of 2.0
    Mar 27, 2017 4:43 PM - Neoony: hmm dont think so...I often considered dying quite fast way to reload gren...in the past I remember tickets being an issue very rarely
    Mar 27, 2017 4:43 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 27, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: i only remember those epic rounds that got destroyed because both sides ended up at 0tickets and it went to sudden death.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: and those were the best games of empires i had and they got just ruined by the shit gameplay that followed
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: farm points, change squad, bugger someone to squadrev, piss on the newbie that didnt know how to spend the 60 points in alpha
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: oh my
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: I can tell you for certain that Cyclopean had a ticket multiplier of 2.0 because that's what caused the "bug" when we played it a few days ago.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - Neoony: I remember keeping rax up by killing myself whenever you ran out of charge while rax under fire xD
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - Neoony: thats how much I had to care about tickets in the long past
    Mar 27, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: the default tickets on it is 200.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: so unless you tell me someone edited the map after it's initial release to lower the tickets, it sort of proves that we used to have lower tickets.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:46 PM - flasche: yeah thats a possible, but not unfixable, exploit
    Mar 27, 2017 4:46 PM - flasche: yeah no xya i dont doubt you, i really couldnt remember
    Mar 27, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: i just think that playing for a ticket victory brings forth the worst of empires gameplay. its just not fun.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: and revive pays off anyways.
    Mar 27, 2017 4:48 PM - flasche: but yeah, there is only so little you could do when you run a server sure
    Mar 27, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: anyone familiar with emp_research_item?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: hum I guess it's pretty straightforward actually, just weird that it doesn't require a team, but then again emp_research_complete doesn't either.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what if those reinforcement multipliers came from changing from 32 maxplayers to 64
    Mar 27, 2017 5:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: emp_sv_research_item X researches that item for both teams. tried and tested for that one map i bugged most of yoy about
    Mar 27, 2017 5:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: playing for a ticket victory exposes huge flaws in empires gameplay: recycling all spawnpoints to prevent ticket use and squad reviving everyone from all corners of the map
    Mar 27, 2017 5:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if those two problems were addressed, i believe playing for tickets would work much better, as it would actually put an end to rounds
    Mar 27, 2017 5:10 PM - Kidpaler: There should be a timer over corpses. After timer runs out, no revive will work
    Mar 27, 2017 5:10 PM - Kidpaler: Meaning, you are forced to use a ticket.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:10 PM - Xyaminou: I always thought that tickets didn't have their place in Empires. They're just a secondary resource that you have no control over. Infantry should just cost normal resources.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:11 PM - Kidpaler: Make it so if someone doesn't revive you quick enough then you have to use a ticket like in Battlefield
    Mar 27, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: Either infantry should cost normal resources or you should have a way of generating tickets.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:12 PM - Kidpaler: Eh, I like the ticket aspect. Stops super long games.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:12 PM - flasche: so you end up with engis running by just like in battlefield?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:12 PM - Kidpaler: That already happens flasche
    Mar 27, 2017 5:13 PM - flasche: its nowhere as bad as in bf1
    Mar 27, 2017 5:13 PM - Kidpaler: I
    Mar 27, 2017 5:13 PM - flasche: especially since you dont need a skill to perform revive unlike in empires
    Mar 27, 2017 5:13 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, because people yell at you for not reviving in this. In battlefield, Tickets never really matter as much
    Mar 27, 2017 5:13 PM - Kidpaler: so people dont get butthurt about it
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: uhm its all about tickets in battlefield
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: If you had a way of generating reinforcements, like a building or something. It wouldn't be a problem until the enemy starts having the upper hand, then if they kill your building giving reinforcement you run out.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: Like a production line.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: bleeder flags just matter more than single revives
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - Xyaminou: it'd make for another strategic target.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: or at least so it seems. the difference can be huge tho
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - flasche: idk i just want to be able to respawn when i want
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: I always imagined my version of Empires to have instead of a barracks a building where you produce reinforcements for resources.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - flasche: i dont want to feel bad about each ticket i use
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - Kidpaler: So, you are arguing for a system like on Fuel where the center flag gives tickets?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: and the commander must keep them stocked
    Mar 27, 2017 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: for resources.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:16 PM - flasche: oh lets just stay a corpse for 4minutes because respawning would hurt the team
    Mar 27, 2017 5:16 PM - flasche: fuck my personal fun
    Mar 27, 2017 5:16 PM - flasche: and then you have people burning through tickets because they think "fuck the team, i want fun"
    Mar 27, 2017 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: What do you mean it'd hurt the team?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: wait are you talking to me or Trump?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: I only stay a corpse when theres like 10-15 tickets left
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: Fuck much before that
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - flasche: i am expressing my disgust with tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: It's a game, this ain't a real war
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: Tjat
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: The mentality of "Don't use tickets" Stems from people who take this game as serious as a real war.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:17 PM - Kidpaler: IE, it's a game. Have fun.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - flasche: but what fun is waiting for revives
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - Kidpaler: I did not mean to put IE there. Oh well.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - flasche: especially if you are gren and better go close up with tanks
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - Kidpaler: Exactly, don't.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - Kidpaler: Don't take the game so seriously. If you lose, oh well. Next round.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:18 PM - flasche: but you better conserve tickets right away, not just when there is 10 left
    Mar 27, 2017 5:19 PM - Kidpaler: Why would I do that when the game is meant for fun and being dead isnt fun?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:19 PM - flasche: like with tanks, you dont start to be careful with tanks when there are only 500res left, you better fucking care right away
    Mar 27, 2017 5:19 PM - flasche: yeah thats why tickets are shit
    Mar 27, 2017 5:19 PM - Kidpaler: No, they have their use. It limits rounds.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:20 PM - Kidpaler: Also, I tend to give less shits when we have more money. Everyone does. That's why when you have more money you tend to rush more to try to gain a tactical advantage on the enemy.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:20 PM - flasche: if it needs tickets to end a game its either a map problem or a general problem with balance (if its on all maps)
    Mar 27, 2017 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: I mean, theres a big difference in ticket use and map play for 10v10 and 32v32
    Mar 27, 2017 5:21 PM - Kidpaler: In one of these scenarios, tickets burn quickly and prevent a stalemate from occuring.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:21 PM - flasche: also its shit to use up 5 tickets and then cannot respawn
    Mar 27, 2017 5:22 PM - flasche: versus someone wasting 20
    Mar 27, 2017 5:22 PM - flasche: its just bullshit
    Mar 27, 2017 5:22 PM - flasche: see thats the problem. gameplay should allow to break stalemates, not some random number tucked onto the game
    Mar 27, 2017 5:23 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, and you proposal to fix stalemates is?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:24 PM - flasche: there are plenty of ways already. i also think the lowering of resources adds a lot to it as you wont have millions of tanks per round
    Mar 27, 2017 5:24 PM - flasche: because tanks are the number one reason for stalemates to happen
    Mar 27, 2017 5:24 PM - flasche: everything else dies quickly enough
    Mar 27, 2017 5:26 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but tanks are no longer super powerful against infantry. Infantry can take quite a beating from tanks.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:26 PM - Kidpaler: Get some walls up and a couple grens with gren upgrade, congrats. You just held off the limited number of tanks the enemy could field because of low res
    Mar 27, 2017 5:27 PM - flasche: good
    Mar 27, 2017 5:27 PM - flasche: i dont see how thats bad
    Mar 27, 2017 5:28 PM - flasche: didnt you want combined arms? because thats how you get combined arms
    Mar 27, 2017 5:28 PM - Kidpaler: Yea I knw
    Mar 27, 2017 5:28 PM - Kidpaler: But then you are back to a stalemate again
    Mar 27, 2017 5:28 PM - Kidpaler: And you didn't solve the issue
    Mar 27, 2017 5:28 PM - Kidpaler: So, again, tickets are useful in that scenario again
    Mar 27, 2017 5:29 PM - flasche: walls go down quite fast now, especially to mortars, but also to tanks
    Mar 27, 2017 5:29 PM - flasche: infantry kills infantry at a good speed
    Mar 27, 2017 5:30 PM - flasche: where does it say you must be able to drive a tank into the enemy base without any support?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:30 PM - flasche: and how is that good
    Mar 27, 2017 5:31 PM - flasche: where does it say you need to be able to run over infantry just because you bought a tank for a few hundred bucks?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:35 PM - Kidpaler: I mean it doesn't
    Mar 27, 2017 5:35 PM - Kidpaler: But again, tickets come down to a limiting factor to prevent a stalemate
    Mar 27, 2017 5:37 PM - Kidpaler: Sure a tank can't push onward without support, but considering both teams could field a tank and both teams can place walls, stalemate until one team needs to start worrying about the number slowly ticking down with each death
    Mar 27, 2017 5:39 PM - flasche: it really depends what gameplay favors. empires mechanics do not exactly promote defense. eventually one side will break in.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:39 PM - flasche: and honestly the best game i had were games that "stalemated"
    Mar 27, 2017 5:39 PM - flasche: games*
    Mar 27, 2017 5:39 PM - Xyaminou: I can now say that there are 70 researches in the game
    Mar 27, 2017 5:40 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but a stalemate game can only go on for so long before its more of the same and people get bored.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:40 PM - flasche: and then both sides reached 0 tickets, it went to sudden death and it became a shitshow
    Mar 27, 2017 5:40 PM - Kidpaler: I honestly would not want to sit on the same map for 3 hours doing the same strategy over and over again hoping it works this time and we magically break through.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:40 PM - flasche: i dont think anyone was bored in those games i was talking about
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - flasche: well if you do the same strategy for 3h and it doesnt work out, you are doing it wrong
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - flasche: there are so many possibilities in empires
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - Kidpaler: On a lot of the maps, there isn't much more you can do.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - flasche: arty for example is pretty good at getting rid of defenses
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - flasche: or nukes
    Mar 27, 2017 5:41 PM - Kidpaler: Sure you can argue bad map design, but when a lot of the maps are made with said design you can't do much
    Mar 27, 2017 5:42 PM - flasche: but it really is bad design
    Mar 27, 2017 5:42 PM - Kidpaler: Yes, and the only think that prevents engineers from running into artillery fire to repair the walls before getting nuked agian is the fact that a ticket drops down
    Mar 27, 2017 5:42 PM - Kidpaler: It prevents people from running into certain death to keep UP the defenses because they don't want to lose mroe tickets, allowing the enemy to push in
    Mar 27, 2017 5:43 PM - flasche: thats what i meant with empires isnt exactly promoting defense, you are not able to outrepair damage
    Mar 27, 2017 5:43 PM - Kidpaler: Sort of?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:43 PM - flasche: and it doesnt have to do with tickets, you cant just run into arty, you die before you repair
    Mar 27, 2017 5:43 PM - flasche: no not sort of, you can do for a bit, but even a rax with 10 engis inside will eventually die to the 10 attackers outside
    Mar 27, 2017 5:43 PM - Kidpaler: Not exactly. Arty hits a specific spot when they get it sighted in usually, meaning you can usually go around said spot taking limited damage and then heal it
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: I'm talking on a map like Money.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - flasche: money
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: Even SOF
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - flasche: best example for good map design
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - flasche: :3
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: The maps where tickets shouldn'
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - flasche: does SoF even allow for arty?
    Mar 27, 2017 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: Not really
    Mar 27, 2017 5:45 PM - flasche: but even slaughtered more often than not does not end with tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 5:45 PM - Kidpaler: I mean, it does
    Mar 27, 2017 5:45 PM - flasche: and its the archetype of a map that stalemates
    Mar 27, 2017 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: The fear of losing on tickets causes people to not respawn/not run into certain death to perform a function is also what prevents stalemates
    Mar 27, 2017 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: It's not just the number, it's a psychological thing as well.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:46 PM - flasche: its a map, like money, where i dont give a shit
    Mar 27, 2017 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: But other people do
    Mar 27, 2017 5:47 PM - flasche: you sadly cant fix people
    Mar 27, 2017 5:47 PM - flasche: :P
    Mar 27, 2017 5:48 PM - flasche: slaughtered is ok till meds
    Mar 27, 2017 5:48 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, but then you need the psychological impact of "Oh crap, we are losing on tickets, I can't run into the enemy again to recycle tanks to get more money" to prevent a stalemate
    Mar 27, 2017 5:48 PM - flasche: yeah but i dont have that on slaughtered because i dont care
    Mar 27, 2017 5:48 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, but again, other people do.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:49 PM - flasche: i often just sit at bridge caring for others to not get by
    Mar 27, 2017 5:49 PM - Kidpaler: It's not just 1 person that this needs to change how they play. It has to change a portion of people to allow the enemy to be stronger and punch through.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:49 PM - Kidpaler: Tickets morph the game from a giant battle to attrition, which is necessary to end a game before it gets to the boring state.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:50 PM - flasche: meh i get the idea but its shit
    Mar 27, 2017 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: I know money is a terrible example, but we went from a 10v10 to 4 hours later a 4v4 because it was so god awful boring. One team pushed, died, squad revd in main, held off the attackers etc
    Mar 27, 2017 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: And people were coming and going throughout that time as well. It was TERRIBLE
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: but thats moneys rather limited options
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - Kidpaler: It didn't end until some noobs ran both teams out of tickets
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - Kidpaler: Most maps HAVE limiting options
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: money really means rinse repeat
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - Kidpaler: Most maps have well defined chokes. Which is the problem.
    Mar 27, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: most maps have points of interest between both bases
    Mar 27, 2017 5:52 PM - flasche: and ways to reduce income other than ranged arty
    Mar 27, 2017 5:52 PM - flasche: and most maps chokes are not completely sealed off by walls
    Mar 27, 2017 5:53 PM - flasche: in the newest version of money even from the beginning
    Mar 27, 2017 5:53 PM - Kidpaler: Yea I don't like new money
    Mar 27, 2017 5:53 PM - Kidpaler: Now you can't even 9 mine up top :(
    Mar 27, 2017 5:53 PM - flasche: it makes very little difference, it was the first you did on old money
    Mar 27, 2017 5:54 PM - flasche: well you cant stomp newbies by an apc rush that easy anymore
    Mar 27, 2017 5:56 PM - flasche: but whatever. i mean i dont think you will convince me that tickets are just a bandaid and the real issue lies with maps and general balance (tho the 2nd got better in recent version)
    Mar 27, 2017 5:59 PM - flasche: its a theory that developed in my head over the course of my empires life. most games are not decided on tickets, and the few i experienced that did usually deserved the title epic-game
    Mar 27, 2017 6:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: stomping newbies with an apc rush doesn't work because you can't afford an apc from the get go iirc
    Mar 27, 2017 6:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the walls slow the attack down by maybe 10-15 seconds
    Mar 27, 2017 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: I just realised I forgot to include the flag on homeland in my spreadsheet so the resources are inaccurate.
    Mar 27, 2017 6:59 PM - Xyaminou: anyone wanna help me test it? it's a 2 players flag.
    Mar 27, 2017 7:04 PM - Xyaminou: so apparently the flag on homeland does... nothing?
    Mar 27, 2017 7:05 PM - flasche: best flags
    Mar 27, 2017 7:07 PM - Xyaminou: anyone know what flags are called in entspy?
    Mar 27, 2017 7:08 PM - flasche: emp_cap_point
    Mar 27, 2017 7:09 PM - Xyaminou: yeah, no, the flag does nothing, unless there's something linked to it but I don't know how to find that.
    Mar 27, 2017 7:09 PM - Xyaminou: actually looking at arid it does list things linked to it, so, nope it just does nothing.
    Mar 27, 2017 7:10 PM - flasche: weird
    Mar 27, 2017 7:11 PM - Xyaminou: indeed, it doesn't even spawn ammo boxes
    Mar 27, 2017 7:11 PM - flasche: maybe it broke during a decompile?
    Mar 27, 2017 7:13 PM - Xyaminou: hm actually, it does spawn boxes, tested it in-game, it's just not linked to it somehow.
    Mar 27, 2017 7:16 PM - flasche: oh right, there is a different way to link ammo boxes to cap points
    Mar 27, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: one of these days I'm just gonna make a .res file that includes my entire materials folder, problem solved.
    Mar 27, 2017 7:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: IMPORATE NEW UPDATE HAS BEEING CAUSING CLIENT CRASHES THERE IS A MEMORY OVERFLOW ISSSURE !!!! THEXA TAMA ANYONE LOOK INTO IT WHEN YOU CAN PLZ
    Mar 27, 2017 7:44 PM - Kidpaler: They already have I think. We noticed it last night on Money when they were both on playing
    Mar 27, 2017 7:44 PM - Kidpaler: Err Thexa and Smithy
    Mar 27, 2017 7:46 PM - Neoony: uh oh
    Mar 27, 2017 7:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: no serouis you cant play com maps with this bug
    Mar 27, 2017 7:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: like every 10 mins some one drop off
    Mar 27, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: Wait... really?
    Mar 27, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: We didn't have that issue last night
    Mar 27, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: We had one time where like 6 people DCed at once
    Mar 27, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: but it wasn't continuous
    Mar 27, 2017 7:51 PM - Kidpaler: AND IF that is the case, i say we just call it a "feature" and say we are "Bringing Empires back to its roots"
    Mar 27, 2017 8:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: where's the sunflowers that said a quick release without testing is enough? I want them to go and fix this fucking thing themselves
    Mar 27, 2017 8:03 PM - Xyaminou: 157 items in insurrection res file, FUCK YOU OMNEH.
    Mar 27, 2017 8:03 PM - Xyaminou: if that doesn't work I fucking quit.
    Mar 27, 2017 8:03 PM - Neoony: XD
    Mar 27, 2017 8:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: am i hearing this right, is insurrection too pretty?
    Mar 27, 2017 8:06 PM - Xyaminou: I also hear there's a command to see the error if something's missing when you're looking at it
    Mar 27, 2017 8:06 PM - Xyaminou: does anyone know what the command is?
    Mar 27, 2017 8:07 PM - Xyaminou: and also a precious thanks to the people of ESB for NOT SHARING THEIR FUCKING RES FILES.
    Mar 27, 2017 8:11 PM - Neoony: is it supposed to be a prop?
    Mar 27, 2017 8:11 PM - Neoony: maybe this? prop_crosshair
    Mar 27, 2017 8:12 PM - Neoony: or mat_crosshair for materials
    Mar 27, 2017 8:12 PM - Neoony: or I guess just use "find crosshair"
    Mar 27, 2017 8:13 PM - Neoony: for more
    Mar 27, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: it's the grass sprites thingies on blackmountain
    Mar 27, 2017 9:04 PM - Xyaminou: so the result is: I broke textures on those maps for myself.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:15 PM - Xyaminou: it's the last time I try to fucking fix other people's shit while some sons of bitches have files already. FUCK ESB.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:16 PM - vipervicki: huh?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:16 PM - vipervicki: what files?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:20 PM - Xyaminou: the res files for all the maps
    Mar 27, 2017 9:21 PM - vipervicki: i got the maps for esb on the forums map pack.most of them
    Mar 27, 2017 9:22 PM - vipervicki: and some single oens on the forums
    Mar 27, 2017 9:22 PM - vipervicki: 1 or 2 i think i got from viper s fiels but thers a big map pack with all res files
    Mar 27, 2017 9:22 PM - vipervicki: and allfiels on the forums
    Mar 27, 2017 9:22 PM - Xyaminou: what forum map pack
    Mar 27, 2017 9:23 PM - vipervicki: hang on ill get u the link
    Mar 27, 2017 9:24 PM - vipervicki: this is on e but dont think its one i used ill look more
    Mar 27, 2017 9:24 PM - vipervicki: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/empires-map-pack-release-comments.17915/
    Mar 27, 2017 9:25 PM - vipervicki: this is the on i used
    Mar 27, 2017 9:25 PM - vipervicki: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/empires-2013-custom-map-pack.18454/
    Mar 27, 2017 9:25 PM - vipervicki: has alot of maps
    Mar 27, 2017 9:25 PM - vipervicki: one*
    Mar 27, 2017 9:27 PM - Xyaminou: the first one is 404
    Mar 27, 2017 9:27 PM - vipervicki: i didnt use that the second i used
    Mar 27, 2017 9:27 PM - vipervicki: cyberkillers
    Mar 27, 2017 9:27 PM - vipervicki: i jsut founf the first during my search
    Mar 27, 2017 9:29 PM - Xyaminou: snowbound is missing, ESB has the res file, please upload it.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:30 PM - Xyaminou: same for blackmountain
    Mar 27, 2017 9:30 PM - vipervicki: ill see if i have it i dont have it on my mapcycle jsut snowstorm i think
    Mar 27, 2017 9:31 PM - Xyaminou: the server has it
    Mar 27, 2017 9:33 PM - vipervicki: yeh but i dont have the bsp or res in my maps folder maybe misfire uplaoded it jsut to fast dld not server, ill look if its there
    Mar 27, 2017 9:33 PM - vipervicki: he does that jsut uplaods to fast dld
    Mar 27, 2017 9:33 PM - vipervicki: not server
    Mar 27, 2017 9:34 PM - vipervicki: hwo do yu se eit on esb its not in fast dld either
    Mar 27, 2017 9:35 PM - vipervicki: how
    Mar 27, 2017 9:35 PM - vipervicki: snowboaund u are wanting right?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - Xyaminou: because we played it on there.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - Xyaminou: yes snowbound and blackmountain
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: snowbound??
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: on esb?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: u can see all the maps on the server type listmaps in console
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: that wa snubs u saw
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: nubs
    Mar 27, 2017 9:36 PM - vipervicki: not esb
    Mar 27, 2017 9:37 PM - vipervicki: go in esb and type listmaps you wont see either there
    Mar 27, 2017 9:37 PM - vipervicki: but i might have the res file from viper
    Mar 27, 2017 9:37 PM - vipervicki: let me look
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - flasche: nah listmaps only lists the mapcycle.cfg thingy
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - vipervicki: from viper files i have version1_2
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - vipervicki: thats all the maps on my server in there glasche
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - vipervicki: flasche
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - flasche: ] listmaps Map Cycle: emp_crossroads emp_canyon emp_isle emp_urbanchaos emp_coast emp_slaughtered emp_streetsoffire emp_cyclopean emp_glycencity emp_duststorm emp_mvalley emp_district402 emp_arid emp_palmbay emp_escort emp_chain emp_midbridge emp_eastborough
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - vipervicki: u mean mapcycle.txt
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - vipervicki: cn u use 1_2?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:38 PM - flasche: or mapcycle.txt
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - flasche: thats from ESB
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - vipervicki: and all the maps i uplaoded for esb is in the mapcycle files
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - flasche: i just tried
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - flasche: then it lists the local mapcycle.txt
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - flasche: bc i can tell thats not all maps on ESB
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - vipervicki: i use umc mampcycle
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - vipervicki: yes type lsitmaps in client console
    Mar 27, 2017 9:39 PM - vipervicki: listmaps
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - flasche: thats what i just did
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: in esb
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - flasche: ] listmaps Map Cycle: emp_crossroads emp_canyon emp_isle emp_urbanchaos emp_coast emp_slaughtered emp_streetsoffire emp_cyclopean emp_glycencity emp_duststorm emp_mvalley emp_district402 emp_arid emp_palmbay emp_escort emp_chain emp_midbridge emp_eastborough
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - Kidpaler: Wait wait wait. So, more maps will be lost to time?
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: hmm
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - flasche: yes in ESB
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: let me go se eit used to show eveyrhting
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: anyway i gt snowboun 1_2
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: from viper
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - flasche:
    probably
    Mar 27, 2017 9:40 PM - vipervicki: not sure thats the fixed version or if its different
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - flasche: material wise its probably the same
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - Xyaminou: Yes maps are lost, and I'm done chasing fucking ghosts because people won't share their shit or can't keep it properly.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - flasche: hopefully
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - vipervicki: i gacve all my maps to thexa a few months ago so he has everyhting i got
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - vipervicki: not true x
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - vipervicki: me and trickster gave it all to thexa
    Mar 27, 2017 9:41 PM - vipervicki: ask him
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: also thexa posted a map pack in vpks
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - flasche: trickster and me* :P
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: with everyhting me n trciskte gave him
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: my keys r so stiff from humidity
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: gotta pound them
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - flasche: or is that different in english? in german you always name yourself last
    Mar 27, 2017 9:42 PM - vipervicki: try the vpk map..x
    Mar 27, 2017 9:43 PM - vipervicki: nah your cocrect
    Mar 27, 2017 9:43 PM - Kidpaler: I don't think Trickster actually gave it, I think you are the only one. I could be wrong, but I think thats what I heard. Again, don't quote me on that.
    Mar 27, 2017 9:43 PM - flasche: i has a correct \o/
    Mar 27, 2017 9:44 PM - flasche: stop breaking empires kidpaler
    Mar 27, 2017 9:44 PM - vipervicki: ok well i did and it was a pita i spent days casue maps were mssing fiels and i got msot after i searched my pc
    Mar 27, 2017 9:44 PM - flasche: :3
    Mar 27, 2017 9:44 PM - Kidpaler: This has been the worst trade deal in the history of Empires, maybe ever.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:37 PM - vipervicki: i think i jsut figured out why the mapcycle on esb isnt showing all map I think that file got overwritten when the update
    Mar 27, 2017 10:37 PM - vipervicki: maps when you type listmaps
    Mar 27, 2017 10:38 PM - vipervicki: because I know I put them in there
    Mar 27, 2017 10:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: speaking of mapvote plugins, can the recently played maps be shown on the nominate list but greyed out?
    Mar 27, 2017 10:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: same for maps that dont meet player requirements. that would be great
    Mar 27, 2017 10:46 PM - Kidpaler: I know at memehouse the nominate list is broken up into Infantry and Commander and ones that don't meet requirement just aren't shown
    Mar 27, 2017 10:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i would rather they were, its clearer then
    Mar 27, 2017 10:47 PM - Xyaminou: can't
    Mar 27, 2017 10:48 PM - Xyaminou: UMC doesn't allow for that, unless I missed it. Otherwise code a plugin for it.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:48 PM - Xyaminou: and go make a res file for snowbound
    Mar 27, 2017 10:49 PM - flasche: or send me the mapfile with all textures and i do it
    Mar 27, 2017 10:49 PM - vipervicki: not that mapcycle file the mapcycle.tx
    Mar 27, 2017 10:50 PM - vipervicki: i think thats where the listmaps gets the maps from the defualt mapcycle file
    Mar 27, 2017 10:50 PM - vipervicki: txt*
    Mar 27, 2017 10:50 PM - flasche: yes it does, thats what i said before
    Mar 27, 2017 10:50 PM - flasche: i just didnt know how the file was called
    Mar 27, 2017 10:51 PM - vipervicki: res fiels are not difficult but u need to make sure you have all the fiels for the map
    Mar 27, 2017 10:51 PM - flasche: i know vicki i released a few maps
    Mar 27, 2017 10:51 PM - vipervicki: yeah but the update must have overwritten it thats why its not showing maps now i dont think listmaps coems from the umc file
    Mar 27, 2017 10:51 PM - flasche: but its incredibly easier if you either have the vmf (uncompiled map file) or a packed version of the map
    Mar 27, 2017 10:51 PM - vipervicki: i was saying to X i know u know
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - flasche: if you jsut have the bsp and a bunch of files in various folders its close to impossible
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - vipervicki: the server update
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - flasche: well you can decompile the map i think it keeps the references
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - Kidpaler: It does
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - flasche: but i rather not
    Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM - vipervicki: yeah its a pita unless u have the showl thing zipped
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - vipervicki: whole
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: DON'T TELL ME IT'S NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT I HAVE SPENT HALF MY DAY TRYING TO FIND EACH FILE, and you're telling me bullshit like that. If it's not fucking difficult why don't you fucking do it.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: fucking shouldn't re-opened the god damn fucking page.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - flasche: thus why i hoped destroyer could sent me the zipped file
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - Kidpaler: Calm down,calm down
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - flasche: chill xya, ill do it for you
    Mar 27, 2017 10:53 PM - vipervicki: some needs a distemper shot
    Mar 27, 2017 10:54 PM - flasche: ill also try to fix omnehs map i forgot the name
    Mar 27, 2017 10:54 PM - flasche: insurrection
    Mar 27, 2017 10:54 PM - Kidpaler: BEST OF LUCK with that ione.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:54 PM - flasche: well i meant the missing resfile
    Mar 27, 2017 10:54 PM - flasche: is anything else broken?
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - Kidpaler: No, but a lot of textures on that one
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - flasche: only one actually
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - flasche: at least on my end
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - Kidpaler: ... wat really?
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - flasche: i mean missing
    Mar 27, 2017 10:55 PM - flasche: we have no res file for it
    Mar 27, 2017 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: what are the chances the Empires update broke insurrection and snowbound?
    Mar 27, 2017 10:58 PM - flasche: did they work before the update?
    Mar 27, 2017 10:58 PM - flasche: i mean on your server
    Mar 27, 2017 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: for me.
    Mar 27, 2017 10:58 PM - flasche: bc i could dl all but the cliff textures from ESB
    Mar 27, 2017 10:59 PM - flasche: i think you messed up the files on your client when dling with the broke resfile
    Mar 27, 2017 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: how, how can I possibly have done that, res file doesn't affect clients
    Mar 27, 2017 10:59 PM - flasche: it tells the clients what to download from the server
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - flasche: so it might have messed up those files
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: yes but I didn't download anything, and the server has the same files I do.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - flasche: and you had the same problems on ESB when i switched maps?
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: the server is a straight copy paste of my files.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - flasche: bc i only lacked the cliff texture
    Mar 27, 2017 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: if by "same problem" you mean missing cliffs, then yes.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - vipervicki: hmmm
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - flasche: on your server i more or less had only purple checkerboards and invisible cliffs
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxQWn9jKBIAJSllSb0R5R3dnUzQ
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: these are my files
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: from like a week ago
    Mar 27, 2017 11:01 PM - vipervicki: I jsut gogled for a .res file generator and there sone on cssbanana but when i tired looking a tit my malware stopped me from entering the site :(
    Mar 27, 2017 11:02 PM - vipervicki: at it*
    Mar 27, 2017 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: so if you download this archive on a fresh install
    Mar 27, 2017 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: and insurrection doesn't work
    Mar 27, 2017 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: the update broke it.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i never said it was easy to recreate a .res file. it takes time but the process itself is straightforward
    Mar 27, 2017 11:06 PM - vipervicki: its only tediuos when a map ha s more than the 5 files
    Mar 27, 2017 11:14 PM - Thexa4: We just noticed we missed some files in the new Empires release
    Mar 27, 2017 11:14 PM - Thexa4: we'll release a new version tomorrow
    Mar 27, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: ah thats it probably
    Mar 27, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: trump broke empries
    Mar 27, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: :3
    Mar 27, 2017 11:20 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Mar 27, 2017 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: #BlameTrump
    Mar 27, 2017 11:21 PM - Thexa4: Nah, my fault
    Mar 27, 2017 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nono it's like blaming trickster
    Mar 27, 2017 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not abotu who did it, it's about blaming trump
    Mar 27, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: what files did you miss thexa?
    Mar 27, 2017 11:28 PM - Thexa4: the sourcetest folder in the root folder
    Mar 27, 2017 11:28 PM - Thexa4: the vpk file to be precise
    Mar 27, 2017 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: so could it be what's causing the problems with the maps?
    Mar 27, 2017 11:28 PM - Thexa4: yes, probably
    Mar 27, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I want a refund
    Mar 27, 2017 11:29 PM - Thexa4: Fine, give me your full address, name, social security number and bank number :)
    Mar 27, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: sounds safe, let's do it.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:31 PM - Neoony: XD
    Mar 27, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: in case some of you is interested in chivalry: medieval warfare, it currently is free on steam and stays in your library after the offere ended http://store.steampowered.com/news/28406/
    Mar 27, 2017 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: lol lazylizard is perma muting everyone on this server can we please NEVER play on his fucking shitty ass server.
    Mar 27, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: are*
    Mar 27, 2017 11:40 PM - vipervicki: someone with the know how should make a res file generator for empires maps
    Mar 27, 2017 11:43 PM - vipervicki: i love that time in history im going to dld it ty flasche
    Mar 27, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: yw
    Mar 27, 2017 11:54 PM - vipervicki: i jsut got a client crash
    Mar 27, 2017 11:54 PM - vipervicki: game totally disappeared
    Mar 27, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: same
     
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    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: I hope it finally kills his fucking shitty server
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:56 PM - Xyaminou: oh I know let's put up shitty Empires plugins administrated by 10 year old who perma muted anyone who point out the obvious shitton of lag on it.
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:57 PM - Smithy: i just got on, X is salty; nothing new here
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:57 PM - Smithy: :D
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:58 PM - Xyaminou: we could have had like 30 or 40 players today
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Xyaminou: instead people are playing on a shitty server
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Smithy: whats new
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Xyaminou: and developpers' mistake may have costed 3 or 4 hours of my day. so yeah.
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Smithy: ?
    Mar 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Smithy: Fill me in with the details
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:00 AM - Xyaminou: well today I tried to fix maps that were missing res files
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:00 AM - Smithy: oh wait i read above lostcost (sourcetest) missing?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:00 AM - Xyaminou: and when I loaded insurrection it broke the textures for the cliffs
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:00 AM - Xyaminou: so I spent like hours trying to figure out how a res file could possibly break client
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: and then I thought, what if it had to do with the update.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: and now thexa told me missing files
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: so either it's a big coincidence
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: or fuck my life.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Smithy: Well here's something to make you feel better
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Smithy: I had nothing to do with it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM - Smithy: :D
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:02 AM - Smithy: Although I did notice missing models on palmbay last night
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:02 AM - Smithy: So i told thexa this morn, I've been at work though
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:04 AM - flasche: we blame trump for it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:04 AM - flasche: we all agreed on that
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:04 AM - flasche: :D
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:05 AM - flasche: (man i hope i dont start something im sorry about later)
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah okay it's definitely the update that broke stuff:
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: didn't touch beachfront, never had problems with it, and yet, errors.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:44 AM - vipervicki: hmm
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:45 AM - vipervicki: i got disconnected 2 times already
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:45 AM - vipervicki: the update needs an update :)
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Xyaminou: are you fucking serious with your 3 bots?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:56 AM - vipervicki: we r having a ball with them thye r so retarded
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:56 AM - vipervicki: i was bored so added them earlier the players liked them jsut as a goof
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:58 AM - Xyaminou: Oh right, sorry, I forgot we all launch Empires to listen to stupid AIs, not to actually play it.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 12:59 AM - vipervicki: thye r playing seriuolsy he bots dont interfere with the game and its making for alot of funny jokes and stuff..sorry some of us dont take the game so seriously its jsut a friggin game
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:06 AM - Xyaminou: lol "taking the game so seriously", this is Empires not fucking Gmod, there is no "serious" or "not serious". You're either playing the game or you're not, if you're not you have no reason to be on it and should find yourself another game.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:08 AM - vipervicki: alo f erronames when someone gets killed
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:09 AM - vipervicki: and w/e X
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:13 AM - Xyaminou: https://pastebin.com/iDPS0AxR
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:13 AM - Xyaminou: thoughts?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:19 AM - Xyaminou: Nevermind thoughts just tell me it's great and I'm the best so I can be off to bed.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:26 AM - Xyaminou: Oh, I know what I forgot
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:26 AM - Xyaminou: how to bz2 the fastdl files.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:26 AM - Xyaminou: oh well I'll do that tomorrow.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:31 AM - Neoony: seems nice :)
     
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    Mar 28, 2017 at 7:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: coast is using a loastcoast boat model iirc, it should be in the southwest. that dhould settle it for surr
    Mar 28, 2017 at 7:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: except thexa said it already so its settled
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:17 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: Xyaminou Yesterday at 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: lol lazylizard is perma muting everyone on this server can we please NEVER play on his fucking shitty ass server. WELL X SINCE I HELPED YOU Build your server your server should be as shitty as mine
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: FYI before you start bitchng about your perma ban... i have log whats show youd abusing rejoining server and my vote plugins .
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:14 PM - CRITAWAKETS: oh dear server drama
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:14 PM - CRITAWAKETS: that being said
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:14 PM - CRITAWAKETS: what server does Lazylizard even host and why does his name sound so much like Lazybum
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:16 PM - Xyaminou: He hosts the worst server in Empires history.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:17 PM - Xyaminou: Tons of lag, shitty plugins, alltalk with 25 players in, stupid admins (obviously), shitty map selection.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:17 PM - Xyaminou: and a hundred other things more stupid than one another
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:18 PM - Xyaminou: NUBS is nice compared to it.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:18 PM - Xyaminou: also CRIT you don't play what do you care?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - CRITAWAKETS: I do play... Mostly to test my scripts
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - Xyaminou: Coast's boat.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - CRITAWAKETS: also how would i avoid his server without knowing the name
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - CRITAWAKETS: and third
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM - CRITAWAKETS: your reputation is so bad i dont know why i would trust you
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:21 PM - Xyaminou: I know right, why would you?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:21 PM - Xyaminou: Why don't you go play on his shitty server then? not like we'd miss you on the real servers.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM - Spike: Then theirs the issue that you and pwnd were permanent muted for no good reason......
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM - Spike: which is just petty and ridiculous
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM - Xyaminou: I think that just falls under the "retarded admins" category.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Xyaminou: Much like the last time I was banned on NUBS.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Spike: i think it falls into the childish admins category
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: little column A, little column B. Childs are known to be retarded.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: childs of all ages.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 1:54 PM - Spike: Plus the gravity edits really fuck the tank handling up as well as the mortar arc
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:04 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: fyi everything is voted in so if ppl want it they get it its smplie as that
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:04 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and yes we all ok know what low g does to tank its called drifting .....
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: also if i am 10 i woud be as old as mommy empires but i am 28
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:08 PM - Vdragon: Well I also do get than young-ish feeling from reading you lol, maybe it's the color in the chat box?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM - Spike: its not tank drifting
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:13 PM - Spike: its called breaking the tank handling and the game
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol yeah, tanks drift more than enough in normal times. Only an idiot would think of making it worse.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:15 PM - Xyaminou: it's funny how sometimes Empires has those idiots who surface out of nowhere and think they know shit when they don't. I think the last one was BRD and I hope he's gone forever. Same goes for you.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:26 PM - Spike: its like trying to drive a tank on the moon
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:33 PM - Xyaminou: nah driving a tank on the moon would probably be fine.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:33 PM - Xyaminou: Source Engine just has terrible and unrealistic vehicle handling and low gravity just makes it go insane.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM - Thexa4: It's actually a bit too accurate, the moon has the same problem with a lowered friction and the same interia
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM - Xyaminou: Well, sure, but you wouldn't just flip at the first crash like Empires tanks do.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM - Xyaminou: and well with the weight of a tank I'm pretty sure it'd be enough to compensate for low gravity.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM - Xyaminou: or rather the mass
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM - Thexa4: both the inertia and friction have mass as a parameter so the ratio will be roughly the same
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM - Spike: Hopefully we can get good population for the server tonight
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM - Spike: and have some good rounds :3
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:40 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath spike
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM - Xyaminou: lol just saw the title of wired's server "now on source 2"
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM - Xyaminou: 10/10
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM - Spike: well i certainly don't want to to happen what happened last night....it was terrible
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM - Xyaminou: then come and seed
    Mar 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM - Spike: aye captain full sail
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: Updated with how to bz2 files and how to properly install custom maps: https://pastebin.com/SXsp0r2F
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Vdragon: are you hosting your server on windows, X ?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Vdragon: Well... You're wasting some performance and some costs
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Vdragon: depending on what kind of solution you're hosting on
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: performance I don't say, but cost? considering I'm running this on a PC I built a couple of years ago to run movies on my TV. I think I'm doing pretty well with cost being 0.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: well then it's fine :)
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Vdragon: though you could still get more performance out of that by using linux, but i'm going to guess you use that pc for other stuffs as well
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Xyaminou: mostly watching videos and surfing. I'm just too lazy to learn linux.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Xyaminou: and so far Empires has never used more than 12% CPU.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Thexa4: X, could you add those guides to the wiki?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: I will, but I need people to double check it first. Flasche just gave me some more info so I will need to test more stuff.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Avatarix: @spoik ill join the group etc etc when i get on win7 and steam
    Mar 28, 2017 at 4:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: new blood missing the joke, where is the old guard when you need it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Xyaminou: RIP, another day of shitty Empires
    Mar 28, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: all thanks to one retard.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: You guys should listen to beerdude 'cause that's what I've been saying the entire time.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Sgt.Security: "it just means there are just as many design docs as there are contributors."
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:16 PM - Sgt.Security: He's right.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i had grand plans for streaming the creation of my design document but i fell asleep instead
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM - flasche: stream all the things
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or rather, the fullfilment thereof
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM - flasche: sleep is importanter
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM - Kidpaler: Did that include the trailer?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 8:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dude, it may have
    Mar 28, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: Plugin idea: Commander Rating
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: You'd have the make a database for that. That's a LOT of work.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: If anything, commander cirlce until its added to base game.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: Prevent noobs from stealing a CV.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: the idea is more to know who to vote for and what you expect of them.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: The community isn't that big so some of us do know all potential commanders, but not everyone does.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Lazybum: I don't think it would be hard to make something to keep track of simple stats like that
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Lazybum: I mean it really depends on how you are rating that comm, simple thumbs and down and it would be a very easy thing to track and make
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Lazybum: super complicated stuff like poeple mention in these forums, yeah that is assloads of work
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: Nah a simple 1 or 0 wouldn't work you'd need something like 5 or 6 categories rated from 0 to 5
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's overcompilcating it for the casual player; a 1-5 rating is the most it should be as a plugin
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: That wouldn't do shit and how are 6 stats complicated?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: In pretty much any game you can find stuff with multiple stats, commanders would just be the same.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the marking procedure becomes long and complicated
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so instead, i suggested the same system overwatch uses
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which is, after the game, you rate your match 1-5
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Lazybum: 6 stats are still ez enough to do, though I would ask do players do this them selves or is it automatic?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plain and simple; doesn't offer full insight but infinitely easier to set up
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Lazybum: automatic is hard and I really wouldn't know how to gauge that at all
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: that would be up to server owners.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: rating the match 1 to 5 would accomplish nothing
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: rating a comm 1-5 is more useable though
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you get a clear indication of, oh this guy has a rating of 1,8 okay he's probably bad
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh look this one is 4,2 he'll do us well
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Lazybum: well what categories would you want?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fast and simple
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: I can think of a handful of commanders who are great with research, building placements, attack orders but have no mics
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: how do I point that out? how do I rate them?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you want a detailed breakdown of each person's skills and abilities, you should look outside the game itself. That is too much information to process in a short amount of time
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: I can't rate them 1 because I'd pick them over some stupid commanders with mics
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Lazybum: I think this is the wrong question to ask
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you give them a 4 or 3 or w/e you think is fitting
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: I can't rate them high because they don't have a mic
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Lazybum: we don't really have that many opt in anyway
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: it's not Destroyer
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: 6 numbers is NOT a lot of information to process
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: it's not
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: you have like 3 minutes to look at 6 numbers per potential commanders
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: don't tell me that's a lot
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Lazybum: it is however, harder to display that from a source plugin I feel
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's a lot to decide on at the end of the round
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: I know everyone is stupid compared to me but come on you're making them to be brain dead apes.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and that is before we get into technicalities
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: even a fucking daulphin would process that.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: who said it has to be at the end of the round?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: yea
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so what, you want to rate people mid round?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: I thought it was just a thing you fill whenever
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Lazybum: type !commrate to rate your comm or somethign
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: First off the end of the round can be like 5 minutes if server owners want
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: so there would be PLENTY of time to rate.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if server owners want the server can have half gravity and fartpacks, that's not the point
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: I don't tihnk people want to wait that long though
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: for the next roud
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: it would be better to do that fill in during a comm vote oddly enough
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: for example I extended the mapvote to 30 seconds and might even increase that because I want people to take time, if I had a commander rate plugin I'd do the same with it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Lazybum: you can have it keep track of your previous comm
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the big thing here is, a PLUGIN will take lot of effort to make it do what you want
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: Everything would take a lot of effort to make it do what I want
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: such is life
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: I don't think it would be hard to receive stats and keep track of them
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a GAME MECHANIC like that could (and should)be pretty much the best of all the 3 worlds we are describing here
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Lazybum: it's just a bit harder to display it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it still requires some outside database though
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: what game mechanic?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Lazybum: not by much I think, I just don't know how often the source thingy updates
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: game mechanic as in part of base empires
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: Also there's a reason people are coding plugins and not coding it directly into the game, mainly, they can't.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Lazybum: what outside database? can't source mods log info and read off a text file?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Lazybum: you really don't need much more outside of that
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: It can
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, then you have a personal database, no? How would you get stats from other people?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: There's already mods that use databases with MySQL I think.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: What do you mean how would you get stats from other people? code it into a plugin, same way everything happens on the server.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Lazybum: I don't understand what you are asking here destroyer, the plugin can just write a log file with these stats and read from it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Lazybum: right to the server
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: exactly
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: a sourcemod plugin would take some work but it's totally doable
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: explain to me how you'd get stats for some commander
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: say he played a bunch of rounds last night, comes on tonight, wants in
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: And if I wasn't too lazy to learn all the terminology and didn't hate coding because it is basically translating what's in my brain (very effcicient) into another device (very inefficient). I'd do it myself.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what stats would his teammates see?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: none, because he hasn't been rated yet.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Lazybum: yeah that's the tricky part with the source mod and I don't know how those panels work, or even all the ways sourcemods can display info
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: It's just a ranking plugin dude, except instead of just counting your kills people rank you.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so your performance yesterday is meaningless
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Lazybum: assuming no one bothers to rate the comm
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Lazybum: yeah
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: player played last night, was rated last night, comes on tonight, what ratings do players see?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: If it's on a server that shares the database then you're rated, if it'sn ot then whatever?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: if he was rated last night then he is rated
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: it's not per day
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: dude have you never seen ranking plugins?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Lazybum: I can tell you how I think it would work destroyer
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay so you need some outside database
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Lazybum: but it gonna take me a minute
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Lazybum: ddd I don't think you know how programming works
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: What do you mean outside database?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no i don't hence the questions
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - flasche: can i rate people?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Lazybum: at a basic level a txt file is all you need
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - flasche: oh please let me do it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: I have a webserver on my server I can just have the database on it too.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: I really don't get what's the problem Destroyer
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Lazybum: let me make a thread, becausre shout box is abad place for this
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: If multiple servers want to share 1 database then yes you do need to have some way for them to access it (a webserver), but that's easy.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: presenting the information via plugins is problematic
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: No don't... It wasn't supposed to be...
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: it's not.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and preservance of the data is problematic
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: No it's not.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: It's easy as fuck it just takes knowledge of sourcemod coding and time.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: I know people will hate me for saying that but coding is easy as fuck.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: all it takes is knowledge.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:32 PM - flasche: depends on what you code
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: Not really, not for me anyway.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Kidpaler: Umm.. doesn't everything take knowledge?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: check the archive tomorrow and see the contradictions in what we've talked about
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - flasche: well where is ue4 pires then xya?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - flasche: :P
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but anyways; then the database is per-server, yes?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: I don't have the knowledge nor the willingness to acquire it.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: and I hate coding.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: it's basically already written in my head and I have to put it on and it takes way longer than it should, I hate it.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: Destroyer the server can be per server or shared.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that sounds like content creation in a nutshell
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - flasche: the database does not have to be on a per server basis, but then its a question of who owns and runs the database
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Lazybum: as someone who does do this a bit, and currently learning more and more, programming is a practiced skill that you can't relaly just read the answer off a book or something
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: Say it's on your computer then you could have C:\Program Files\empires\Commanderdatabase.sql
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM - flasche: its all dependend on what you do
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay basically my stance is
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Xyaminou: or say you want to access a shared data base you could have http://242.293.13.123/empires/commanderdatabase.sql
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM - flasche: and how efficient it needs to be
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Xyaminou: makes not difference.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Neoony: should be doable somehow :P
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you need an external database somewhere. Can be per server as far as i'm concerned, that's w/e, it's also doable if someone puts in enough tiem and effort, cool
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - Neoony: even comm time as rating wouldnt be too bad xD
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - Xyaminou: God sometimes I wish I could just create stuff right out of my brain
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: AND if you can make it user-friendly, then that's even more cool
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - Xyaminou: it's all ready in there already. easy.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - Neoony: or I was thinking maybe vote at end of each round if it was a good comm...but there are issues with that :P
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but this sounds like a lot of careful work for only so much gain, so i have my doubts about this becoming a thing
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: Nah just "good or bad" doesn't cut it for that.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - Neoony: you can either use mysql or just a file as a memory in sourcemod
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: Basically: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...9XP6JsDpTIxRvHsB7lQufiW_8/edit#gid=1382648584
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - flasche: what is all that about anyway?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: nothing I just typed: "Plugin Idea: Commander Rating"
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - Lazybum: commander rate system
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM - flasche: thats pretty much a database already xya
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: and then people started typing frantically
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: I really think ddd is complicated the idea of a database, it's not hard at all to pull info out of
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: basically 6 stats as shown in the spreadsheet and a win/loss ratio
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Lazybum: it really shouldn
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:38 PM - flasche: the comments part will be a bit ticky on a live server tho
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Lazybum: be hard to do at all, like making the database for this maybe 30 minutes at most kinda deal, not hours and hours
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - flasche: i mean to fill out
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah, probably shouldn't have a comment part
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: unless you just include it as a "browse comments" button
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Lazybum: the actual getting and info and displaying more, but that's because I have no idea how soruce mod works
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybum, i'm not concerned about USING a database, i'm concerned about HAVING and MAINTAINING one, that's all
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: but even then printing a lot of text with sourcemod isn't really good looking.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Lazybum: what's hard about it?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Lazybum: you don't have to
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - flasche: strings are character arrays
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - flasche: i mean literally in sourcemod
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you don't have a database you don't have a rating base?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: the wayt I see it is that nice little selection menu that shows poeple
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - flasche: thats kinda weird
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: but I mean, you get the idea.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: select a name and get stats
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - Lazybum: why, that's how it works in c
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:40 PM - flasche: sure
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - flasche: but you also have strings with all their neat features
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah Lazybum a command that you type in chat to either list or see a particular player
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - flasche: its so 20th century
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: like !commanderrating
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Lazybum: it could be automatic ya know
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: gives you a list of all the players
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Lazybum: so the sustem actually works and does something
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: and !commanderrating "name"
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: or !commanderrating NF
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - Lazybum: better to keep commands short, !commrate or !commrating
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: I know, you're right.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: just an example.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: !ratecomm <playername>
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - flasche: at the same time those char[] are treated a bit differently as you can just fill them with strings
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: w/e, the real deal is how you present it next
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: easy, a simple sourcemod menu
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or rather, how you handle the rating itself; presenting someone's "ratings" is easy and simple
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - Lazybum: !ratemap, !ratesquadlead, !ratebadmin
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - Lazybum: so many rates
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: exactly, a sourcemod menu
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - flasche: can sm tell what squad you are in?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - Lazybum: I'm not sure what you are getting at
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - flasche: bc !ratesquadlead
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: yes flasche
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: there are hooks
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: I don't remember exactly but %sl or something
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: %something can tell you classes, who's your commander, what squad you're in, etc...
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: WELL we have an idea, someone google doc this shit before it goes away and someone else find a code person
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:45 PM - flasche: lazy -> https://wiki.alliedmods.net/SQL_(SourceMod_Scripting) seems rather straight forward
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:45 PM - Xyaminou: Like I said.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:46 PM - Xyaminou: just requires a lot of smashing your keyboard.
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:47 PM - flasche: the general sm documentation also is quite useable
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:47 PM - flasche: you only need a server with sm to test it
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:47 PM - Lazybum: I haven't the faintest of how sql works, I never used it before
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:48 PM - flasche: the basics are really simple
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:48 PM - flasche: but well, its always like that i guess ^^
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:49 PM - Lazybum: I wonder if it will even load though, my visual studio isn't working anymore, can't uninstall or reinstall either, it's just stuck
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - flasche: your poor computer what evil things did you do to him? :D
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - Lazybum: i updated windows
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - flasche: lol
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - Lazybum: thourgh windows update
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: big mistake
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - Lazybum: :*(
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM - Lazybum: I know, but one of sound driver things wasn't working and I wanted it working
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:51 PM - Lazybum: but then it derped
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:51 PM - Lazybum: so neither thing works, and a roll back didn't do anything either
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:52 PM - Lazybum: these are the times I really don't like computers, things don't work and it won't tell you why at all, and neither does an hour of google searching
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:56 PM - flasche: maybe there is some process preventing the deinstallation?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:56 PM - flasche: or some AV?
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:57 PM - flasche: in the worst case, just format :P
    Mar 28, 2017 at 11:57 PM - flasche: nah jk
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: https://pastebin.com/Ne9S8wW9
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:14 AM - Xyaminou: Oh another idea, a small plugin to add targets for sourcemod: @BE and @NF.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:15 AM - Xyaminou: I already found one that does @spec or @unassigned. But Empires need some special love.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:15 AM - Xyaminou: Oh look steam is gone.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:20 AM - A-z-K: Fuuuckin steam
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:20 AM - Xyaminou: I know, it's forcing you to come to Empires forums
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Xyaminou: what assholes.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - A-z-K: I was playing Gauntlet with my mate and now thats that
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Neoony: free promotion
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - A-z-K: Was right about to kill the biiiig boosssssss. Fuuuuuu....
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Xyaminou: I also would love if someone could re-write a portion of CEXEC so it works with sourcemod's targets.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Neoony: lool
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Xyaminou: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=58982
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: I wonder if I should start a thread asking "what could be done to get people to play on the right servers"
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: I'd bath in the drama.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:28 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: seeding and maps that fit the population
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Xyaminou: Yeah, no, that doesn't work.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Xyaminou: We all know if the best server won we'd always be playing on mine.
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Xyaminou: lol
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Señor_Awesome: The league thread being locked is one of the more hilarious things that has happened here as of late
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Señor_Awesome: par for the course on stupid, sadly
    Mar 29, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Señor_Awesome: also, glory to the shoutbox for not forcing me to make a thread to comment on this
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:28 AM - Lazybum: Eh, if he intends to make a more clear cut thread a little later anyway I didn't really mind locking it at his request
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:29 AM - Lazybum: If it was the main league thread I would be a bit more hesistant to lock it though...
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: just saying, bodes = well
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:31 AM - complete_: he CLEARLY said once he posts the league thread in a couple of days it will be locked. senor you are obviously mistaken
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:34 AM - Lazybum: huh, missed that part
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:35 AM - Lazybum: well whatever, I know spike would want a more proper format for his opening post and thead title so I know he's going to make it anyway
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:35 AM - Señor_Awesome: I didn't see anything about that but okay complete
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:35 AM - Lazybum: All I know is the talk that was happening in the last thread has a high chance of carriying over to his next thread, so it might have been better to get it over with now then later in the proper thread
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:36 AM - Lazybum: didn't really think it about at the time because too much kf2 at the moment
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:37 AM - Señor_Awesome: *shrug* I'm not particularly interested this year so whatever. I do have these to offer, though:
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:37 AM - Señor_Awesome: awww middle finger emojis don't show up
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:38 AM - Xyaminou: noob
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:39 AM - Lazybum: D:, what did I do to get this
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:40 AM - Señor_Awesome: they're just for empires in general ┌∩┐(-_-)┌∩┐
    Mar 29, 2017 at 1:41 AM - complete_: im going to call emoticons and emojis SMILEYs forever
    Mar 29, 2017 at 2:43 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: great news ppl of empires i just got a memory updrat for the server now less prone to lag spkes and crashed when i watch porn !!! spend my whole weeks pay on it thought :( so now i dont eat tommrow if any one want to send me a subway gift card fell free
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    Mar 29, 2017 12:14 PM - Paradox: You know what would be great, if the people seeding their own servers would actually play afterwards lol
    Mar 29, 2017 12:18 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: no i am not falling for that bait .. no server drama from me today.
    Mar 29, 2017 12:19 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: on another note emp_hazard vtf fies are borken sine the new update
    Mar 29, 2017 12:20 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: so i am failing to see y all maps are getting gliched or broken ?(for the ones taht worked fine)
    Mar 29, 2017 12:46 PM - Boovy!: HAHAAH JUST GO CRY GRASSIN ME UP TO STEAM AGAIN
    Mar 29, 2017 12:46 PM - Boovy!: FUKIN NONCE WERE U AT VINNY?
    Mar 29, 2017 12:46 PM - Boovy!: U OLD PEDO
    Mar 29, 2017 12:46 PM - Boovy!: COME SIT ON OLD VINNIES LAP KIDS HEHEEH
    Mar 29, 2017 1:15 PM - A-z-K: how very rude
    Mar 29, 2017 3:45 PM - Lazybum: so many plugins, so little time
    Mar 29, 2017 3:54 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Mar 29, 2017 4:20 PM - Spike: need more plugins
    Mar 29, 2017 4:20 PM - Spike: and we still need an autobalance plugin
    Mar 29, 2017 4:20 PM - Spike: for when its 15 v 18 and no one want to balance
    Mar 29, 2017 4:49 PM - Kidpaler: No. I absolutely think an autobalance plugin is terrible. You can't force someone from the winning team onto the losing team, that completely messes up the fun of the game
    Mar 29, 2017 4:49 PM - Kidpaler: If I got autobalanced, I'd simply go spec
    Mar 29, 2017 5:32 PM - Paradox: autobalance is stupid, the reason people leave the team in the first place is cause they are losing.
    Mar 29, 2017 5:32 PM - Paradox: If its 15v18, you arent losing cause its 15, you were losing before and thats why its 15
    Mar 29, 2017 5:34 PM - flasche: sadly it is like that
    Mar 29, 2017 5:48 PM - Kidpaler: And nothing can be done to fix that.
    Mar 29, 2017 5:55 PM - Sgt.Security: Nothing should be done to help the losing team in mid game, TBH that's why some games last forever.
    Mar 29, 2017 6:21 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Mar 29, 2017 7:32 PM - Spike: it would be nice to have a decent population on a good server for once
    Mar 29, 2017 7:35 PM - Xyaminou: Also I'm probably not gonna run the server this week-end since I'm not there unless you guys really want me to.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:35 PM - Xyaminou: nobody plays on it when I'm not there anyway.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:36 PM - Spike: i wouldnt mind playing on your server...
    Mar 29, 2017 7:36 PM - Spike: better than a server that randomly permamutes people and bans people for no apparent reason
    Mar 29, 2017 7:37 PM - Spike: and a server that has the worst net lag i have seen on any server to date
    Mar 29, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: well there's wired's server but my point was, if I put it up people need to seed it.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:41 PM - Spike: This community really doesn't have room for a childish server owner that fucks with gravity so that the tanks don't handle correctly and fucks up the mortar arc. I do believe that's breaking the game. Then theres the issues of randomly perma muting people for no good reason then there banning people for no good reason either.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:41 PM - Spike: can we just have a good server for once ?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:41 PM - Paradox: randomly perma muting people
    Mar 29, 2017 7:41 PM - Paradox: maybe you shouldnt be racist
    Mar 29, 2017 7:41 PM - Paradox: noone perma muted u either
    Mar 29, 2017 7:42 PM - Spike: lol paradox get go away
    Mar 29, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: lol paradox he's talking about lazylizard you noob.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:42 PM - Spike: dont get involved in conversations you know nothing about
    Mar 29, 2017 7:42 PM - Spike: thanks
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Paradox: Ill go at who ever I want bitches
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Paradox: Xya, talk to the wolfy guy
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Spike: I think pawned got permamuted and gagged too...
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Xyaminou: well "want" to go at lazylizard, please.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Spike: pwned
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Xyaminou: about what paradox?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Spike: also i think hes banned
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Xyaminou: yeah PYA got permamuted for pointing out the server was lagging.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:43 PM - Paradox: transfering everyone into his server this weekend?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Paradox: ill be on the server this weekend
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Xyaminou: oh, sure.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Paradox: we could transfer to him or wireds
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Xyaminou: need to check he has the plugins installed and all.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Spike: mrx
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Spike: just keep your server up
    Mar 29, 2017 7:44 PM - Spike: its fine
    Mar 29, 2017 7:45 PM - Spike: i would rather play on that
    Mar 29, 2017 7:45 PM - Xyaminou: hmm his server is not on the list.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:45 PM - Xyaminou: I mean, it's just you know, I pay electricity. so I kinda feel bad about running if no one plays on it.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:47 PM - Spike: If he keeps on banning people and muting people for other people trying to tell him that doing certain things break the gameplay i don't think there will be anyone left to even play on his server. Let him ban all the vets then see what happens
    Mar 29, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: well so far, you're wrong. Until proven otherwise.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:48 PM - Kidpaler: Again, just because you think it breaks it doesn't mean it breaks it for everyone else. Some people like dicking around in low grav.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:49 PM - Xyaminou: "dicking around in low grav." is not Empires
    Mar 29, 2017 7:49 PM - Xyaminou: therefore he's right, it breaks the game.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:49 PM - Kidpaler: Again, this is a matter of if you like it or not. Obviously both of you don't like it, but apparently people do cause they'd rather play on his server sometimes rather than yours
    Mar 29, 2017 7:49 PM - Xyaminou: if people want to "dick around in low grav" they can just go on fucking gmod play with kids their mental age.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:49 PM - Xyaminou: no it's not.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, it kind of is
    Mar 29, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: It's really just a matter of preference
    Mar 29, 2017 7:50 PM - Xyaminou: No, it kind of is not.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:50 PM - Xyaminou: No, it's not.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: SO you are saying literally 100% of Empires players do not like low grav empires?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Spike: It breaks the game....
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Kidpaler: And that it is 100% not Empires if the gravity gets turned down?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Xyaminou: No I'm saying playing with low grav is NOT playing Empires and has NOTHING TO DO on an Empires server.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Xyaminou: I don't give a shit what people like
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Kidpaler: Great, then it is a subjective matter and your personal preference.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Xyaminou: nope, it's not.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:51 PM - Kidpaler: Wow.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Kidpaler: There literally is no arguing with you. Unless it is 100% hardcore Empires you hate it.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: Empires is a FPS/RTS not a "fuck around", you wanna fuck around go to GMOD.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: no such thing as hardcore Empires
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Kidpaler: Nah, I'll fuck around all I want on Empires and have fun. This isn't Arma, it's a source mod I play to have fun.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: it is Empires or it's not
    Mar 29, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: if it's not ban it from Empires.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: Then you should be banned from Empires.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:53 PM - A-z-K: I'm with the Kid, why can't anyone do what they want
    Mar 29, 2017 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: If people want to fuck around there's plenty of other source games for you
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Kidpaler: Exactly, it's a matter of what makes the game fun to you. If you like the game with low grav and there is a low grav server, great.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - A-z-K: I mean I don't like it but wahetever
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, and if you don't like it why don't you go to another source game MrX?
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Xyaminou: Because it's Empires, it's not about what you want, it's about what the game needs.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Kidpaler: No, it's about what appeals to more people and causes most people to have fun.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Xyaminou: I do like Empires, you guys do not. Don't try to reverse the situaton.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Kidpaler: If people have fun, more people stay.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:54 PM - Xyaminou: No it's not.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: you don't modify the game to appeal to you.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - A-z-K: Well hold on a second because its a moot point. If someone wants to put low grav on their server who is going to stop them
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Kidpaler: I love Empires, I don't like the low grav server at all but it's a matter of personal preference.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: You either like the game as it is or you don't
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: If you don't, don't play it.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Kidpaler: And obviously you hate it because you removed wages
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Kidpaler: You removed wages, lowered tank limit, reduced tickets
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: Nobody azk and that's the problem.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Kidpaler: So you must hate the game as well then.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: Again, 10 years ago we didn't have all that, so no I didn't, devs did.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - A-z-K: I dont think its a problme, I don't thionk the millions of new players are going to join a low grav server and say this game sucks and then leave forever
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - Kidpaler: "Xyaminou A moment ago - Xyaminou: you don't modify the game to appeal to you."
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - Kidpaler: Me either AZK
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: Oh you can quote, congratulations.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: I do Azk, and you should too.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: who knows how many peolpe joined his server and considered it horribly shit
    Mar 29, 2017 7:56 PM - A-z-K: TO be fair I don't care about anything
    Mar 29, 2017 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: and kidpaler you're the one who was going on about keeping new players
    Mar 29, 2017 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: so don't fucking bullshit
    Mar 29, 2017 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: You were the one fighting to have a better image to keep new players, and now suddenly you don't care? fucking hypocrite.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:57 PM - A-z-K: I would bet my SMG1 that it makes zero difference
    Mar 29, 2017 7:57 PM - Kidpaler: I'm not "fucking bullshit", I'm quoting you. You modified your server to appeal to you, so quit being an ass to someone who likes some low grav.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Kidpaler: This is why we also have fun maps. It's for a break from the standard and dragging on nature of some games.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - A-z-K: Just liek when there was that outcast server and we basically ostracised 15 players because they had an increased turret limit
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Xyaminou: No, no, you are bullshiting 100% either you want people to have a first good impression of the game or you don't.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Kidpaler: And turbo on all vehicles
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, And you server is modified as well MrX. They aren't getting the impression of the stock game. So again, you must hate the game.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Xyaminou: we have fun maps because some people don't like playing Empires, like you, like lazylizard.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:58 PM - Xyaminou: same for turbo.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:59 PM - Kidpaler: Most people don't hate fun maps I would say, because people play them
    Mar 29, 2017 7:59 PM - Xyaminou: they are getting the impression of the stock game, like it used to be, like it should have stayed.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:59 PM - A-z-K: Whoooo caaaares theres a million servers, just play whatever one you like
    Mar 29, 2017 7:59 PM - Kidpaler: If people didn't play them, no one would want to make them.
    Mar 29, 2017 7:59 PM - Xyaminou: just because a random bunch of people who call themselves developpers came around
    Mar 29, 2017 8:00 PM - A-z-K: Its a situation that will resolve itself. If nobody wants to play on a server with a particular setting then that server won't get played or will change its settings.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:00 PM - Kidpaler: Exactly.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:00 PM - Kidpaler: I say, leave it at that.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:01 PM - Kidpaler: If they want to play there, they can. I for one dont like the low grav but power to the people that do.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:01 PM - Paradox: i say we ban everyone that cant get more than 3 points per minute
    Mar 29, 2017 8:01 PM - Kidpaler: Naw, thats low balling it. 10 points per minute or perma banned.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:01 PM - A-z-K: At least 3 per minute
    Mar 29, 2017 8:24 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i will so beat taht number so fast how about 100 per sec
    Mar 29, 2017 8:25 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: emp_increase_rank 100
    Mar 29, 2017 8:25 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: super admrial done
    Mar 29, 2017 8:27 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: too be all honest thoguh X when i said to some of the old vet tha new player make and berak game some of you frowned upon it and when nubs was on i told youguys many times plz respect ppl but no..... any way this is a week day how many ppl could you expect any way?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:28 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and i have been bussting my ass to get ppl to play you think ist fun sending out 500 invites a day?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:29 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ALSO if you want more ppl to play this game just make an EPIC trailer for the game and put it on you tude or steam page... who here want to help do that?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: *whistles nonchalantly*
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: lol
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: First of all, I can't understand half of what you wrote, learn to type. God it's so disturbing how similar idiots are, BRD was exactly the same, no one could understand anything he said.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: Wait wait
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: tell me it's not BRD renamed to something else.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: That would certainly explain all the retardation.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thats y you have google transltate
    Mar 29, 2017 8:31 PM - Xyaminou: Google doesn't have "retard" as a language, idiot.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:31 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: hear s a tip i speak russian at 4.30 est chinees at 5.30 est polish and german at 9.est and back to englis by 12.est
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: but at 5.p i speak omg whats the language for rude?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - Xyaminou: Seriously can someone translate?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - Kidpaler: DESTROYER
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - Paradox: lazylizard yer a fucking idiot
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - Kidpaler: I HEARD SOMEONE SAY MAKE A TRAILER
    Mar 29, 2017 8:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: FUCK
    Mar 29, 2017 8:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: TRUMP NOTICED, ABORT MISSION
    Mar 29, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: Oh look with the "let's make a trailer" once again, let's go back 4 months in the past to when people wanted to make a trailer and everyone just forgot about it.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:33 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: yes every game needs an idoit :P are jealous that ppl dont ply on mem since x got his server running?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - Kidpaler: No, we did. Then Destroyer had tests. Then yea
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: Paradox, do you speak retard? did you understand what he said?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - Paradox: memehouse and x are working together
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nobody important forgot about the trailer, i'm just this lazy
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: good but i thogugh i was working wit you to take nubs down?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:34 PM - Paradox: lol what?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - Xyaminou: What did he say?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - Xyaminou: include me paradox, come on.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: did you not pm me something along thouhous lines?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - Kidpaler: Destroyer, let's get the trailer ready for when the new tutorials come out
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - Paradox: I asked you if you wanted to share plugins and maps
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ya i am up for helping with anyting
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: let me know
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - Paradox: but you are making shit plugins
    Mar 29, 2017 8:35 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: WHICH I have done
    Mar 29, 2017 8:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: all my plugins are in the plugins section of this forum
    Mar 29, 2017 8:36 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: not wiki since its not lettign me make a new account
    Mar 29, 2017 8:37 PM - Kidpaler: You're all deeists. Each and every one of you.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:37 PM - Kidpaler: God, how could you mess up the struggle of the bum hole
    Mar 29, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: I have no idea what's going on
    Mar 29, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: someone is speaking a weird language and then trump is talking about deeism
    Mar 29, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: so confused.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:39 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: x for where i stand i all i can see if if you dont get what your want you cry and destroy tahat all and oo ya you want attention too.....
    Mar 29, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: I think he's talking to me, can someone translate?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Mar 29, 2017 8:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: doing trailer work because trump is a deeist, let's go
    Mar 29, 2017 8:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i am comming
    Mar 29, 2017 8:43 PM - Kidpaler: No, I am part of the bum hole. Don't try to demean the struggles of the bum hole.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:43 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: also can you guys do it in the fog or war / neoonys high resh graphics
    Mar 29, 2017 8:43 PM - Kidpaler: Actually, according to MrDie, I am at odds with the bum hole as well. So apparently I sit on neither side and have my middle fingers up at everyone.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:44 PM - Kidpaler: [​IMG]
    Mar 29, 2017 8:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: lol
    Mar 29, 2017 8:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: dhooohhh
    Mar 29, 2017 8:45 PM - Kidpaler: Alright. So, Since I said it, apparently we are going to have trailer/tutorails out in May. Apparently all it took was me saying "Alright, it's got to be done by May" and now it's happening. #Teamwork
    Mar 29, 2017 8:46 PM - Xyaminou: Right, I believe that.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:47 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i will pm you guys
    Mar 29, 2017 8:47 PM - Kidpaler: About?
    Mar 29, 2017 8:47 PM - Xyaminou: Hey I understood that!
    Mar 29, 2017 8:47 PM - Xyaminou: holy shit.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:48 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: if you need some where to shoot
    Mar 29, 2017 8:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: or need players ... i will call myslef Bob
    Mar 29, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: and, back to not understand.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:50 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: bob the bulider taht is :P
    Mar 29, 2017 8:51 PM - Kidpaler: Destroyer. Do not show the nuking clip please.
    Mar 29, 2017 8:51 PM - Kidpaler: :(
    Mar 29, 2017 8:54 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: we should communate through steam group chat but you guys need to be "online"
    Mar 29, 2017 8:54 PM - Kidpaler: But, I'm busy
    Mar 29, 2017 8:54 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: nvm go it on twicth
    Mar 29, 2017 8:54 PM - Kidpaler: I'm heading out here in like, now
    Mar 29, 2017 8:56 PM - Xyaminou: so, have we gotten rid of the shit servers yet? can I play Empires now?
    Mar 29, 2017 9:02 PM - Xyaminou: I miss the good old time of Wired's server, when we had 15vs15 on weekdays and 28vs28 on weekends
    Mar 29, 2017 9:02 PM - Xyaminou: but that was so long ago, what happened?
    Mar 29, 2017 9:08 PM - Ranger: I woke up at 22:30. wat is wrong with me doktor?
    Mar 29, 2017 9:08 PM - Ranger: uhhh
    Mar 29, 2017 9:08 PM - Ranger: 22: 30
    Mar 29, 2017 9:10 PM - Xyaminou: ??
    Mar 29, 2017 9:18 PM - Spike: its sad
    Mar 29, 2017 9:18 PM - Spike: theres no one playing empries
    Mar 29, 2017 9:18 PM - Spike: gg
    Mar 29, 2017 9:19 PM - Spike: what happened to the week population ?
    Mar 29, 2017 9:19 PM - Xyaminou: lazylizard, NUBS. Pick one.
    Mar 29, 2017 10:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: thanks for hanging out whoever hung out, some things happened
    Mar 29, 2017 10:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's literally ZERO players on empires
    Mar 29, 2017 10:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: rip
    Mar 29, 2017 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: WHY DID I JUST LOSE A TEAM MEMBER DURING THE COLLECTOR FIGHT WHAT THE FUCK MASS EFFECT
    Mar 29, 2017 11:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think i screwed up anyways, might have to REPLAY THE WHOLE DAMN THING ASDFDSF
    Mar 29, 2017 11:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (i do)
    Mar 29, 2017 11:27 PM - CRITAWAKETS: I love how Mr. X is officially the most butthurt empires player ever.
    Mar 29, 2017 11:27 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Like, we should give him an award.
    Mar 30, 2017 1:43 AM - Marxman: Not, Mr. (Name Omitted for general butthurt reasons but its starts with a "D") is
    Mar 30, 2017 1:44 AM - Marxman: the most absolute butthurt person by anything ever
    Mar 30, 2017 1:56 AM - Kidpaler: DIE?
    Mar 30, 2017 1:57 AM - Marxman: shhhhhhhhhh
    Mar 30, 2017 1:57 AM - Marxman: dont say his name or hell hear it and come back
    Mar 30, 2017 2:13 AM - A-z-K: Christ
    Mar 30, 2017 2:17 AM - A-z-K: Shoutbox is like a coffee enema for the soul.
    Mar 30, 2017 2:22 AM - Ranger: I always read the name Die in german so it's like Dee. idk why
    Mar 30, 2017 2:36 AM - A-z-K: I always read it whilst crying, curled up in the corner of my wardrobe; same way I do all my reading.
    Mar 30, 2017 3:25 AM - Kidpaler: marx, he's always around.
     
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    Mar 30, 2017 11:00 PM - Paradox: The problem with empires server and empires people is that the server appeases to the public, but thats not the best thing. People are fucking stupid and dont know better.
    Mar 30, 2017 11:00 PM - Paradox: If you decide for them whats best, and that person is actually knowledgable the end will be far better off
    Mar 30, 2017 11:00 PM - Paradox: Thats what we did at wired's server
    Mar 30, 2017 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Mar 30, 2017 11:00 PM - Paradox: thats why we got an entire night from 7pm till 2 am of constant 20v 20 and more
    Mar 30, 2017 11:01 PM - Paradox: not because we gave them the maps they wanted to play, its because we gave them the maps they need to play
    Mar 30, 2017 11:01 PM - Paradox: We gave them the opportunity to grow as players and to get more out of empires, more that they didnt knew was posssible
    Mar 30, 2017 11:01 PM - Paradox: We didnt give them escort cause they voted for it, we didnt give them shit all
    Mar 30, 2017 11:01 PM - Paradox: They played what we gave them, its like asking the general public if they want nuclear
    Mar 30, 2017 11:01 PM - Neoony: where did that come from? xD
    Mar 30, 2017 11:02 PM - Paradox: the answer is no, but everyone with an iq higher than the average knows its better
    Mar 30, 2017 11:02 PM - Paradox: and everyone will be better off
    Mar 30, 2017 11:02 PM - Paradox: I was reading chatbox from 9pm onwards
    Mar 30, 2017 11:02 PM - Paradox: Empires is dying on weekdays because of the seeding of nubs and lazy lizard
    Mar 30, 2017 11:02 PM - Paradox: they play on nubs and lazies and realise empires is shit and get off
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: NUBS has so many seeders and fake alt accounts to fuel it
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: but they dont actually play the game when the game is seeded
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: its like they only care that people are playing on their servers
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: inostead of actually caring about the quality of games
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: and the longterm survival
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: If only we could all get together and do the right thing
    Mar 30, 2017 11:03 PM - Paradox: instead of doing the thing that makes you feel best
    Mar 30, 2017 11:04 PM - Paradox: People complain and cry about "admin abuse" in the meme server, us forcing maps down their throats
    Mar 30, 2017 11:04 PM - Paradox: but eventually everyone actually stayed on our server and played
    Mar 30, 2017 11:04 PM - Paradox: instead of all the other servers where people st in spec or left after 1 game
    Mar 30, 2017 11:05 PM - Paradox: Lead by example they say, but noone seems to follow when we found the recipe for succes
    Mar 30, 2017 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: I wouldn't expect those types to follow our example even thought we've proved it worked and makes Empires better, more friendly, more enjoyable, and most importantly more populated.
    Mar 30, 2017 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: what with Vicki being like "oh no it clearly didn't work" some people are just incapable of accepting hard fact, as you show in your signature, you should know.
    Mar 30, 2017 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: Omneh, do you still have the vmf of your maps? can you publish them so they don't get lost?
    Mar 30, 2017 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: also what do you think of changing the multiplier of the middle and SW refinery for blackmountain?
    Mar 30, 2017 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: to x2*
    Mar 30, 2017 11:28 PM - Ranger: but paradox does that mean no more rainbow road D:
    Mar 30, 2017 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: it does for me
    Mar 30, 2017 11:34 PM - Ranger: paradox you should have an online diary and share it with the world
    Mar 31, 2017 12:13 AM - Spike: god empries was dead today
    Mar 31, 2017 12:13 AM - Spike: 14 players at peak
    Mar 31, 2017 12:22 AM - Misfire: Doesn't help your player count when no on can see servers on the list today
    Mar 31, 2017 12:30 AM - Kidpaler: That might be a problem.
    Mar 31, 2017 12:30 AM - Kidpaler: Also. GoT Season 7 preview trailer
    Mar 31, 2017 12:30 AM - Kidpaler:
    Mar 31, 2017 12:30 AM - Spike: OH
    Mar 31, 2017 12:30 AM - Spike: nice
    Mar 31, 2017 12:31 AM - Spike: season 1 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:31 AM - Spike: season 2 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:31 AM - Spike: season 3 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:31 AM - Spike: season 4 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:31 AM - Spike: season 5 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:32 AM - Spike: season 6 winter is coming
    Mar 31, 2017 12:32 AM - Spike: season 7 winters NOT HERE YET
    Mar 31, 2017 12:32 AM - Spike: oh wait winters here
    Mar 31, 2017 12:32 AM - Spike: gg
    Mar 31, 2017 12:32 AM - Spike: took fucking long enough
    Mar 31, 2017 12:36 AM - Xyaminou: @Misfire what do you mean players can't see the server list? I've been able to see it just fine.
    Mar 31, 2017 12:49 AM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Mar 31, 2017 12:49 AM - Spike: im bored
    Mar 31, 2017 12:49 AM - Spike: lets play empries
    Mar 31, 2017 12:49 AM - Spike: oh wait 0 players
    Mar 31, 2017 12:50 AM - Misfire: Mr.X... I couldn't a while ago, and a couple others messaged me the same.
    Mar 31, 2017 12:51 AM - Misfire: I currently still can't see meme or your server on the list
    Mar 31, 2017 12:51 AM - Spike: i had to update jekotian
    Mar 31, 2017 12:51 AM - Spike: before i could see it
    Mar 31, 2017 12:51 AM - Spike: the server needs updating
    Mar 31, 2017 12:54 AM - Misfire: Yes, if you haven't updated your server, time to do so
    Mar 31, 2017 12:57 AM - Misfire: NUBS is fine by the way, thanks for asking. lol
    Mar 31, 2017 1:05 AM - flasche: nubs?
    Mar 31, 2017 1:05 AM - Misfire: It's been suggested to me a couple of times that the practice bot server (simple as it is) helps keep player count going in lean times.
    Mar 31, 2017 1:05 AM - flasche: AHA!!!
    Mar 31, 2017 1:05 AM - flasche: seriously who goes there?
    Mar 31, 2017 1:05 AM - Misfire: AHA nothing. I'm making fun of any goob calling ESB NUBS
    Mar 31, 2017 1:06 AM - flasche: im just kidding aswell misfire
    Mar 31, 2017 1:06 AM - Misfire: :)
    Mar 31, 2017 1:06 AM - Misfire: If it makes them feel better, that's fine be me
    Mar 31, 2017 1:07 AM - Misfire: My bot server has been down for a week or so due to the updates apparently and I didn't have time to work in it.
    Mar 31, 2017 1:09 AM - Misfire: it would be an interesting experiment to see how count's go with or without it for a period.
    Mar 31, 2017 1:09 AM - Misfire: Might be a small bump.... or not
    Mar 31, 2017 1:40 AM - Thexa4: Please enable autoupdate if you have a server
    Mar 31, 2017 2:09 AM - vipervicki: I was told autoupdate doesnt work.
    Mar 31, 2017 2:09 AM - vipervicki: since 2.7
    Mar 31, 2017 2:09 AM - vipervicki: was it fixed in the latest version?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:12 AM - Thexa4: are you sure?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:12 AM - Thexa4: I didn't receive any reports that it was broken
    Mar 31, 2017 2:14 AM - vipervicki: yes i was told its on bug tracker u need to delete the steam apps directory manually and allow the tool to reevelauate everything and dld the update
    Mar 31, 2017 2:15 AM - vipervicki: and it hasnt worked yet
    Mar 31, 2017 2:15 AM - vipervicki: w/o deleting manually
    Mar 31, 2017 2:15 AM - Thexa4: Are you sure you are using the dedicated server package?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - vipervicki: jyes
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - vipervicki: yes*
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - vipervicki: did your vanilla update auotmaitcally?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - Thexa4: do you get the message that the server is out of date?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - Thexa4: I don't think I touched the vanilla one, so I think so
    Mar 31, 2017 2:16 AM - vipervicki: we did it ourseleves
    Mar 31, 2017 2:17 AM - vipervicki: so no
    Mar 31, 2017 2:17 AM - Thexa4: you are running it with autoupdate on?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:18 AM - vipervicki: you need to delete the steamapps directory in order for SteamCMD to download and apply the update.
    Mar 31, 2017 2:19 AM - vipervicki: check if your server updated?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:19 AM - vipervicki: then we will know for sure?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:21 AM - Thexa4: mine update after every restart, though they use -verify
    Mar 31, 2017 2:21 AM - Thexa4: that always works perfectly but takes a while
    Mar 31, 2017 2:24 AM - vipervicki: im chatting with thecreeper and he said he discussed this a few times that its jsut revalidatin files but it wont update w/o remving the steamapps directory
    Mar 31, 2017 2:24 AM - Thexa4: ok, I can't replicate that part
    Mar 31, 2017 2:25 AM - Thexa4: However, I noticed the vanilla server hasn't restarted, so that might be an issue
    Mar 31, 2017 2:25 AM - vipervicki: also smithy had said he was able to replicate the bug quite awhile ago
    Mar 31, 2017 2:36 AM - vipervicki: LOL @ paradox and Mr. X DUH I put up a server and had players a few times wow that means Im the know what Im doing and no one else does DUH..geezus give us a break.
    Mar 31, 2017 2:39 AM - Smithy: Can confirm, actually can replicate the behavior pretty easily
    Mar 31, 2017 2:39 AM - Smithy: I'm testing something though (google result)
    Mar 31, 2017 2:42 AM - Smithy: Well that didn't work :3
    Mar 31, 2017 2:42 AM - Thexa4: is that with a logged in steamcmd?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:42 AM - Smithy: anonymous
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Smithy: it attempts to validate
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Smithy: then throws already up to date message
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Thexa4: really weird
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Thexa4: windows / linux?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Smithy: testing on windows
    Mar 31, 2017 2:43 AM - Smithy: Package stuck on 2.12.0.244
    Mar 31, 2017 2:44 AM - Smithy: Others use linux though
    Mar 31, 2017 2:44 AM - Thexa4: what arguments are you using?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:44 AM - Thexa4: / what update script
    Mar 31, 2017 2:44 AM - Smithy: and encounter the same
    Mar 31, 2017 2:44 AM - Smithy: steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +app_update 460040 validate +quit
    Mar 31, 2017 2:46 AM - Smithy: Not using the force directory param
    Mar 31, 2017 2:46 AM - Smithy: So it goes to ./steamapps/common
    Mar 31, 2017 2:46 AM - Thexa4: I am
    Mar 31, 2017 2:46 AM - Thexa4: the only difference though
    Mar 31, 2017 2:46 AM - Smithy: but according to google, it happens regardless of forcing
    Mar 31, 2017 2:47 AM - Smithy: Think maybe its the manifest file
    Mar 31, 2017 2:47 AM - Thexa4: I noticed on windows that I need to restart steam to get it to work
    Mar 31, 2017 2:47 AM - Smithy: Annoying to test, validate takes a while
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - Smithy: This machine wasn't powered on when you pushed the patch
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - Smithy: so that's not the problem
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - Thexa4: Does it work if you add +logout in front?
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - Thexa4: hm
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - vipervicki: if autoupdate has to validate fiels every time the serverrestarts its not worht auto updating
    Mar 31, 2017 2:48 AM - vipervicki: worth
    Mar 31, 2017 2:49 AM - Thexa4: first thing to do is figure out what is actually broken
    Mar 31, 2017 2:49 AM - Thexa4: efficiency we can solve later
    Mar 31, 2017 2:49 AM - vipervicki: true
    Mar 31, 2017 2:49 AM - Misfire: my boxes seemed to have gotten the updates, but then the game service needed a manual restart
    Mar 31, 2017 2:49 AM - TheCreeper: It's not an efficient problem though, fix auto updating and you only need to download updates rather than re-validate everything which takes seconds.
    Mar 31, 2017 2:51 AM - TheCreeper: The problem started about the 2.7.0 update, more than a year ago.
    Mar 31, 2017 2:51 AM - TheCreeper: started after the*
    Mar 31, 2017 3:48 AM - Lawliet: Is there a set date for the first match of this league?
    Mar 31, 2017 4:52 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: my is up to date as well
    Mar 31, 2017 4:52 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: but yes mine does not -autoupdate either
     
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    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:47 AM - Neoony: pretty sure autoupdate works flawless on my test server, which is Thexas server on linux
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Neoony: but yeah, it validates everything each restart...takes some time
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:57 AM - Neoony: also server browser in steam will show you all servers...browser ingame will show you only updated servers, as long as you updated the game
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:50 AM - Wired_4fun: I dunno wtf you guys are on about but update works fine for me
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:50 AM - Wired_4fun: Some times I just need to run my startup command and it updates on boot
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:50 AM - Wired_4fun: or I just run my update command and it updates
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:50 AM - Wired_4fun: dont need to delete or modify shit all
    Mar 31, 2017 at 9:55 AM - Paradox: Vicki thinks we got lucky 2 weeks straight and its not our method of working lol. Even in the face of truth she manages to deceive
    Mar 31, 2017 at 11:32 AM - Ranger: Rainmaking
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:10 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: srcds.exe -console -game empires -autoupdate +maxplayers 64 +map emp_isle -secure
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:11 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i suspcet i could be steamcmd caasue it is not on there fore update dont get proceessed
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:11 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: so i end up app_update 460040 validate manually its not a big deal ..... like like update come every month
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:18 PM - vipervicki: yeah and VIPER got lucky over 5 years straight and left all other servers empty but DUH you must know more than anyon, your bragging makes you sound silly
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:33 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: window with for dir on steamcmd is alway off except to update
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:40 PM - Paradox: Because you exist 5 years straight doesnt mean you had succes 5 years straight. Your server was the only well functioning server
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:40 PM - Paradox: but in those 5 years I havent seen viper get consecutive rounds of 20 v 20 without having half of the people in spec
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:40 PM - Paradox: not like we had on wired server
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:40 PM - Paradox: Theres a difference between having people playing on your server, and having people playing quality empires on your server
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:44 PM - vipervicki: viper had full server more time sthan I can count and several other servers popped up in the 5 years and viper stayed consistant
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:45 PM - vipervicki: your server was populated before you had competition, VIPER stayed populated no matter what the competition was.. so yeah you got it all figured out as you sit with an empty server for weeks now
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:46 PM - vipervicki: im jsut sayng you and X bragging because you had a few days with people is ridiculous when viper and epic had full servers to the max more times than the days memehouse has been up. and we never bragged so you jsut sound ridiculous
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:57 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: sadly that was the day when my computer got highjacked and my server was rebuild from scracth ..... but his weekennd we will see paradox :P
    Mar 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: and you dont have to be so mean to vicki with out her server empires wounld not have player at all.... more like eternal sclicen mod ... as old as empires
    Mar 31, 2017 at 2:00 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: AND FOR ANY THAT COMPLIain about lag on my server please do a speed teat to any fucking server in northamerica and compare to latcnecy on my server you will see the the exact same
    Mar 31, 2017 at 2:03 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thank to the devs taht fix empire with the new update most maps work again and cpu useage had droppeb by half so less work on the server side
    Mar 31, 2017 at 2:17 PM - Thexa4: I found a checkbox disabling automatic updates for the dedicated server, changed it to automatically update now so that might help with the app_verify issues.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 2:24 PM - Thexa4: Thanks for notifying us about the problem
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Spike: fag riflewhore
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i spy with my little eye something beginning with the letters "mad cuz bad"
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Lazybum: that statement sounds illogical when used against spike
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Spike: hmm ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Spike: whos bad ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Spike: i used to play rifleman all the time and found it extremely easy to kill everything im just trying to say that i think rifleman has too much power :3
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:31 PM - A-z-K: shamone
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Spike: why do you think i don't play riflewhore anymore ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - A-z-K:
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Spike: Grenadier is a much better class and actually takes skill to play
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Spike: so is engineer
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Spike: i hate
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Spike: Micheal jackson
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you said you don't play rifleman in the thread
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "when i used to play rifleman"
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Spike: not anymore
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and no, rifleman is just better at shooting infantry, it takes a completely different approach to play rifleman than engineer or grenadier
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Spike: i think reznov said to me once spike stop playing rifleman its too easy play grenadier
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm not sure what to make of this information
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:35 PM - Spike: i couldn't really care less what you think of it
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:36 PM - Spike: Im just trying to say that rifleman is far too powerful in the hands of someone who is very good at fps games
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:36 PM - Lazybum: it's not a very different approach
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Spike: i don't really think he should have bullet resist as well as the hardest hitting weapons as well as damage upgrade as well as digin
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Spike: its overkill
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Paradox: Lol vicki still doesnt understand the difference between quality and quantity
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Spike: quality = tiger tank quantity = t34 tank ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:39 PM - A-z-K: Should read zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wait, a class that can pretty much only reliably do one thing which is killing infantry shouldn't be specced for killing infantry?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: maybe remove repair upgrade and gren's explosive resists while we're at it
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh and can't forget revive, how dare that thing only be available to engineers
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:41 PM - A-z-K: to be fair everyone is specced to kill inf
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and don't get me started on commanders, DEAR LORD COMMANDERS
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just as everyone is specced to destroy tanks, some classes are just better at it
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which is why they are classes
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:41 PM - A-z-K: nerf commanders
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if the rifleman class was actually that good, more people would be playing rifleman to help their win chances
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Spike: Rifleman is god
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Spike: and gren
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the truth is, riflemen might be good at this one specific thing, but that's about it
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you won't win with too many, you'll have a tough time with too few
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Spike: also commander armour really does need a buff
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Spike: you can ninja the cv with a single BE heavy
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Spike: its pretty silly
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well yeah if you don't realise you're being attacked by a single dude for about a minute i guess you shouldn't lose
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: totally
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: thing is
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Lazybum: spoike
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Lazybum: play wit us
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: the cv has gotten a massive nerf across the patches
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: oh what ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: on waht ?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Lazybum: kf2
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: fine
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: for you lazykins anything
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: <3
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Spike: <3
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Lazybum: yay <3
    Mar 31, 2017 at 4:50 PM - vipervicki: you're welcome Thexa
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Sgt.Security: Destroyer basically said it all, anyway, this "rifleman is too good at killing infantry and is easy to play" is something that I don't even at all.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Sgt.Security: If you think it's easy to play then why are people so bad at it? I am counting a few good rifleman and that's pretty much all.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't recall CV changes from the last 2-3 years, but the only thing that comes to my mind is the relatively recent buff to NF CV that added 1 plate to each of its sides; i can't recall a nerf
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890542633
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: these sorts of things are sporadic at best, and only done by a select few folks; it's not as simple as people complaining make it out to be
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Sgt.Security: I dunno, but apparenlty one of the most famous approach to despise my work is to make up something that I didn't do at all.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Thexa4: Btw, all changes to the scripts can be found here: https://git.empiresmod.com/empires_public/empires_scripts/commits/develop
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Thexa4: publicly for everyone
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Sgt.Security: I am looking at script change history, it literally says the last change done to BE CV is, 4 years ago.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Sgt.Security: And 5 months ago my buff for NF CV, for its size.
    Mar 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM - Avatarix: are the changes online yet?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM - Avatarix: also, devs should be ashamed
    Mar 31, 2017 at 7:27 PM - Avatarix: so many big plans are probably being pushed behind curtains and public doesnt know a thing
    Mar 31, 2017 at 7:27 PM - Avatarix: when are we having microtransactions?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:11 PM - Spike: right
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:12 PM - Spike: the game keeps crashing
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:12 PM - Spike: constantly we
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:12 PM - Spike: need a hotfix
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:15 PM - Neoony: crashdumps?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:16 PM - Spike: ill post them on the forums
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:16 PM - Spike: i have no idea whats being done but the game is really unstable currently
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:16 PM - Spike: crashed 3 times within the last hour
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:16 PM - Spike: unplayable
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:18 PM - Avatarix: scout is OP and breaks the game?
    Mar 31, 2017 at 8:18 PM - Spike: crash
    Apr 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Kidpaler: Destroyer
    Apr 1, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Kidpaler: You on hipchat?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Thexa4: Pushed a fix for the crashes
    Apr 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM - Neoony: Empires doesnt update? Restart steam!
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:31 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: wahts is up with all these updates???? you guys tryingto sab my base? (by base i mean server)
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:34 AM - Neoony: too lazy managing a server? xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:39 AM - Thexa4: we fixed autoupdate so you can use that now :)
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: thanks i hope so....
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:41 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: #neoony yes i am lazy but i was at work all day so i could not do anything...
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:41 AM - Neoony: just kidding man xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:41 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i know :D
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:42 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: did you try you plugin with some ppl ?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:43 AM - Neoony: yep
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:43 AM - Neoony: its on memehouse now
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:43 AM - Neoony: 0.5.2
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:44 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: does is work? whats the minium before you can use it?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:44 AM - Neoony: minimum what?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ppl for it to kick in?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM - Neoony: you set that
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM - Neoony: read the thread
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM - Neoony: or readme
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:46 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok thanks .. for the cv if com leaves it does it explode ok do i have to chane time to some larger number?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:46 AM - Neoony: just dont do nc_commchecktime 0
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:46 AM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:47 AM - Neoony: player has to enter the cv one time
    Apr 1, 2017 at 2:51 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: ok thanks
     
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    Apr 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Spike: OK can we please
    Apr 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Spike: make scout good instead of trolling with april fools bullshit
    Apr 1, 2017 at 4:53 PM - Ranger: scouts need to be renamed to sensei and beat people with nunchaku for sneak undetectable extermination
    Apr 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ranger, it's called melee upgrade + squad hide
    Apr 1, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Ranger: but enable melee multikill
    Apr 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Ranger: lol i learned shitty basics of nunchaku in.. 2 hours maybe. from yt. it's like when u get good at one fps game and then try others and u are good in those as well
    Apr 1, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Ranger: or maybe its just easy :(
    Apr 1, 2017 at 6:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: have some handsome men on this lonely evening: https://www.instagram.com/p/BSWcATuha66/
    Apr 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM - Paradox: gay
    Apr 1, 2017 at 8:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i appreciate beauty in all its forms
    Apr 1, 2017 at 8:45 PM - Neoony: wtf xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 8:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when i grow up i could see myself looking this way
    Apr 1, 2017 at 8:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: except chances are nobody would want their GP to look like that so i have to dial back a little
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: wow 63 players on memehouse
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - flasche: :o
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - Neoony: alert alert....servers gonna start leaking...
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM - Neoony: abandon ship
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:25 PM - Neoony: where are all the servers, when you might actually need them?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:26 PM - flasche: there are enough empty servers
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:30 PM - Neoony: suddenly ESB poppes back up xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:31 PM - Neoony: or was it up?...think the source server browser is conflicting with my external one xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:32 PM - flasche: dunno i think it was there for me the whole time
    Apr 1, 2017 at 9:33 PM - Neoony: nvm then :P
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:04 PM - Xyaminou: so sad
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Neoony: who did what?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Kidpaler: Well... that's odd. It worked before
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Kidpaler: Hmmm
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Kidpaler: I'll have to look into that
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Neoony: last thing before crash
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Thexa4: wired crashed?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Neoony: https://pastebin.com/SHsSfZWu
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Thexa4: what map was running?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Xyaminou: King
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Kidpaler: King
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Neoony: king
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Kidpaler: We played that like 3 times and it never crashed
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: It did hit entity limit I think
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Xyaminou: too bad it was a good game with good squadleaders and teamplay and shit
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: 23:02:27 L 04/01/2017 - 17:02:27: Total edicts: 2049 23:02:27 L 04/01/2017 - 17:02:27: Engine error: ED_Alloc: no free edicts
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Paradox: were u on BE
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: I'll have to actually edit the map.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: It hit entity limit
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Paradox: cause u were going to fucking loooose
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Paradox: NF was owning you
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Kidpaler: No we weren't, we were raping you down south, you had us up north but we were about to push out
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Neoony: yeah lets finish it off in shoutbox xD
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: lol what, how was NF owning us
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: like they didn't even capture the NW refs
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Thexa4: the 229 dynamic lights probably don't help
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: even thought they had NW
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Xyaminou: we had the refs
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Xyaminou: which means we had WAY more income than they did
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Kidpaler: How long till each player just counts as 1 entity instead of 5?
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Xyaminou: we had NW for SE middle, so pretty much everything.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Paradox: nah bro
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Paradox: We had entire NW, north and all mid flags
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: donald turmp detroyed NW refs
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: but it was neutral territory
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Thexa4: the map is using 700 entities for the spotlights
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Kidpaler: King uses 1300 entities
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Thexa4: that's too much if you allow 180 walls for example
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Thexa4: the light entities are not useful at all
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Thexa4: they're pointing up
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Kidpaler: It adds a cool aesthetic
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: flags don't give you shit, just spawn points
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: good luck getting out of them.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Thexa4: sure, but you don't need entities to get that aesthetic
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: also we had just recaptured 2 of those flags and were pushing NW heavily
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: but either way if anything this debate proves that it was a good game.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Xyaminou: if both sides believe they were winning.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Neoony: I think spec would win anyways
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler:
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler: Well, theres an April fools joke I did on Everyone when it was 20v20
    Apr 1, 2017 at 10:31 PM - Xyaminou: rofl
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: NF backed out of north due to vehicles falling back, but BE wasn't done securing north. A counterpush would be really effective at that point and I imagine it was going to come very quickly
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that being said, i had little control over the rest of the map, so i can't comment on the overall image. We had more securities though, so the advantage was there
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:36 PM - Misfire: Nice April fools!
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:38 PM - Misfire: @Neoony EBS has been up, but I've noticed the game list hasn't been very consistent the last couple of days. I had to pull meme from my history.
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:39 PM - Misfire: Opps that should have been "inconsistent"
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no it should have been consistent, read again ;)
    Apr 1, 2017 at 11:56 PM - Sgt.Security: Unless my memory fucked me, BE was in control of middle, city and even north of your main.
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:08 AM - vipervicki: my game crashed :(
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:09 AM - vipervicki: and I was actually doing pretty good
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you should have rejoined asap
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there was a definite lack of engineers at time
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: times*
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:41 AM - vipervicki: it ruined the moment for me lol
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:43 AM - vipervicki: plus I got a new puppy and he wanted to play. he was sleeping right next to me in my office when the game crashed he woke up at the same time
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:43 AM - vipervicki: wow thats a run on sentence
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:44 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you sure you didn't scream obscenities at the screen like any gamer would and wake him up in the process
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:44 AM - vipervicki: might have happened that way :X
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:44 AM - vipervicki: he so adorable
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:45 AM - vipervicki: hes the remedy for my grief Ive been feeling so much better
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:45 AM - vipervicki: got him tuesday
    Apr 2, 2017 at 1:47 AM - vipervicki: i lost both of my dogs (both 17 yrs old) within 5 months, it was unbearable for me
    Apr 2, 2017 at 2:54 AM - Spike: oK
    Apr 2, 2017 at 2:54 AM - Spike: so the game is still not stable
    Apr 2, 2017 at 2:54 AM - Spike: KEEP CRASHING
     
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    Apr 2, 2017 5:02 AM - Ranger: bring big tasty back
    Apr 2, 2017 8:43 AM - Ranger: New achievement. Win on King before it crashes
    Apr 2, 2017 8:51 AM - Spike: You know what
    Apr 2, 2017 8:52 AM - Spike: i dont think in 9 years ive seen king end
    Apr 2, 2017 8:52 AM - Spike: because of crashing
    Apr 2, 2017 8:53 AM - Ranger: ye maybe everyone is tryhard on king so games are good and last long and in the end noone wins
    Apr 2, 2017 9:35 AM - Spike: king has only really been played around about 10 to 20 times perhaps or even less because of the crashes
    Apr 2, 2017 10:11 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have a screenshot from last week where it ended. people must have not been using walls and stuff though
    Apr 2, 2017 10:36 AM - Ranger: proof
    Apr 2, 2017 12:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: check my steam profile, its near the top of my screenshots collection
    Apr 2, 2017 12:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i would do it myself but im a little technologically indisposed atm
    Apr 2, 2017 12:36 PM - Ranger: i didnt ask for proof. i just proof
    Apr 2, 2017 12:36 PM - Avatarix: poof?
    Apr 2, 2017 12:38 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah but last week was like 20vs20 top
    Apr 2, 2017 12:41 PM - Xyaminou: Either that or my server is just better :p
    Apr 2, 2017 1:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which is exactly why it didnt crash
    Apr 2, 2017 1:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also your server had worse players who didnt use nearly as many walls
    Apr 2, 2017 1:41 PM - Ranger: get new breeders for better players
    Apr 2, 2017 1:49 PM - LordDz_2: Start fucking!
    Apr 2, 2017 1:49 PM - LordDz_2: Have babies
    Apr 2, 2017 1:49 PM - LordDz_2: Get them to play Empires
    Apr 2, 2017 1:49 PM - LordDz_2: U get to fuck and be a good parent at the same time!!
    Apr 2, 2017 1:57 PM - Paradox: ive seen king end like 3 or 4 times in my 10 years of experience lol
    Apr 2, 2017 2:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we have the power to fix it
    Apr 2, 2017 2:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we just reslly really dont have the will to do it, also some ethical concerns about modifying peoples work without their consent
    Apr 2, 2017 3:00 PM - Paradox: ethical reasons are stupid reasons
    Apr 2, 2017 3:00 PM - Paradox: greater good> individual good
    Apr 2, 2017 3:00 PM - Paradox: get that in your mind folks, especially for empires
    Apr 2, 2017 3:08 PM - Xyaminou: Lol, ethical concern? about making a map work so it can get played and therefore noticed by people? While still having the original untouched because you're gonna name it differently anyhow. What concerns?
    Apr 2, 2017 3:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was just about to fulfill godwin's law already
    Apr 2, 2017 3:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: basically taking someone's shit and modifying it without their permission, for better or for worse, is not nice
    Apr 2, 2017 3:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: particularly if we're talking about basically a stranger
    Apr 2, 2017 3:35 PM - Paradox: for the greater good
    Apr 2, 2017 3:35 PM - Paradox: You rather not fix something thats broken because you dont know the person is fucking dumb as shit
    Apr 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Ranger: ye if it is a fix its all good
    Apr 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Ranger: only a dick would complain for a fix
    Apr 2, 2017 4:21 PM - A-z-K: paradox doesn't play by the rules but goddamnit he gets results.
    Apr 2, 2017 4:21 PM - A-z-K: ::cue funk rock intro::
    Apr 2, 2017 4:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if it was as simple as a "hotfix" (which, by the way, you've experienced just this week FIRSTHAND, is not a 15 minute job), i wouldn't hesitate nearly as much
    Apr 2, 2017 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if all it took was to flip a couple switches and bam done, then we'd have been playing king regularly for years already
    Apr 2, 2017 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said already and people seem to be ignoring that fact, we don't have the vmf, and decompiling the bsp breaks an amount of things on the map
    Apr 2, 2017 4:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: FOR EXAMPLE, coast ladders are broken due to us working with a decompiled version
    Apr 2, 2017 4:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the work that gregarious put into the decompiled version went completely ignored, because it offered no change to what was already there (save for minor fixes and those ladders)
    Apr 2, 2017 4:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: now, coast is a simple map compared to king. I don't know how many things break when you decompile king, but i can safely assume that it'll take a while to find everything
    Apr 2, 2017 4:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and to get back to what i meant to say, we'd need to change an important portion of entity work to reduce the "entity limit" king is hitting
    Apr 2, 2017 4:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it *shouldn't* have an impact on what the average player sees, but, again, i haven't looked at it myself, so i'm not willing to make definite statements
    Apr 2, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: either way, it'd be a bit of an endeavour to fix that
    Apr 2, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's NOT just a fucking "hotfix", it's an overhaul.
    Apr 2, 2017 6:58 PM - Ranger: it's a dlc
    Apr 2, 2017 7:02 PM - vipervicki: anyone who edits a personas map always needed to get permission from the mapper, who mae king? Just ask him
    Apr 2, 2017 7:03 PM - vipervicki: persons*
    Apr 2, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: Chris0132' made king
    Apr 2, 2017 7:09 PM - Ranger: he doesnt need to. it's just kind to do so. in a community like empires it something like " hey im fixing yar map from 10 years ago" then the map proceeds not caring what others will do with his maps.
    Apr 2, 2017 7:11 PM - Ranger: Things like "don't upload on other sides" "dont edit without my permission" etc are just not fitting in empires. im 100% most dont care what people do to their maps
    Apr 2, 2017 7:16 PM - Ranger: the mapper*
    Apr 2, 2017 7:30 PM - vipervicki: well thats how its always been since its their work.
    Apr 2, 2017 7:30 PM - vipervicki: in empires
    Apr 2, 2017 7:32 PM - vipervicki: he has an acct on the forums thye can pm him he should ge tit in his email if he still uses that
    Apr 2, 2017 7:32 PM - vipervicki: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?members/chris0132.395/
    Apr 2, 2017 7:34 PM - vipervicki: get it*...
    Apr 2, 2017 7:41 PM - Ranger: i mostly say that cause many mappers are not easy to contact
    Apr 2, 2017 8:07 PM - vipervicki: I know but at least one can try before editing someone's work
    Apr 2, 2017 8:07 PM - vipervicki: he also made atomic
    Apr 2, 2017 8:18 PM - Kidpaler: King will be an absolute overhaul.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:18 PM - Kidpaler: It's almost not worth the time, to an extent. I decompiled it and while looking at it a LOT of stuff broke from what is in the base game.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:19 PM - Kidpaler: Besides, to get it playable we would have to remove a good portion of the lighting that he put in which will make the map much harder for people to play cause it will be darker and it will look a lot less appealing.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:19 PM - Kidpaler: I think I can do a hotfix, but I don't know if people would like the result, and we can't really test the result unless we get another 27v27 round going to experiment.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: I have an idea for how to remove it, but It would be test at your own risk with the people on.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:22 PM - Kidpaler: I'll try putting out that version of the map. Should be a simple fix and if this idea doesn't work well... then it will take a long time to get it working. To get it working I am going to have to restrict infantry from placing walls.
    Apr 2, 2017 8:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's one way to go about it, and it will absolutely ruin gameplay on most of the map
    Apr 2, 2017 10:35 PM - LordDz_2: "Chris0132' was last seen: May 11, 2015", good luck pming the guy who throws hamsters at walls
    Apr 2, 2017 10:52 PM - Spike: Yinglet Squad is best squad <3
    Apr 2, 2017 10:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was about to say i disagree and then i remember zoom stood me out
    Apr 2, 2017 10:55 PM - Señor_Awesome: you mean stood you up I think
    Apr 2, 2017 10:56 PM - Señor_Awesome: plus Cake squad is the best squad
    Apr 2, 2017 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my phrasal game is a bit off since i havent been practicing with learned individuals. thank you
    Apr 2, 2017 11:23 PM - Sgt.Security: Cake squad best squad.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: Is it just me or do more veterans join and play when we play on wired's server? It just feels like game are of a higher caliber than they used to be on NUBS.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: But I'm definitely biased so could just be that.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: did I ever make that suggestion about fixing enhanced senses to not show dead people on the minimap?
    Apr 2, 2017 11:42 PM - Sgt.Security: I think it also shows people who just joined and haven't even spawned.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: Yep, it basically shows the same as spectators see, which is completely inaccurate.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: people who just joined are effectively dead in the game's eyes
    Apr 2, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, factually not true about the spectator comparison
    Apr 2, 2017 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: enhanced senses update your minimap in real time (refresh rate is equal to your fps)
    Apr 2, 2017 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so they are strictly speaking better
    Apr 2, 2017 11:52 PM - Xyaminou: you know what I meant.
    Apr 2, 2017 11:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....actually no, but i believe i do now
    Apr 2, 2017 11:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...and also not true, as they only work on what's being rendered by your client (as in the visleaves you see)
    Apr 2, 2017 11:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if the target is not being rendered, enhanced senses don't pick them up
    Apr 2, 2017 11:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's an edge case, but it's easy to run into that situation on district
    Apr 2, 2017 11:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and speaking of game quality, i believe that people have been acting more engaged the past few weeks
    Apr 2, 2017 11:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i hope this trend remains buuut... the past has shown that people come and go
    Apr 2, 2017 11:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just hope we keep gaining average players, we're still not at the point where we have 24/7pires, and that one would be big for the game
    Apr 3, 2017 12:02 AM - Paradox: Dictatorship > democracy
    Apr 3, 2017 12:06 AM - Kidpaler: 24/7 pires is completely unrealistic unless a bunch of australians all come on at once and play at the same time
    Apr 3, 2017 12:06 AM - Kidpaler: There is a long trickle of new people joining to play during the times it would be populated for Australia, but there simply isn't a game going on so they leave
    Apr 3, 2017 12:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Or, if there's a bunch of players staying up late.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:12 AM - Kidpaler: That's true, but around that time there is, at best, 3 people on
    Apr 3, 2017 12:13 AM - Kidpaler: So unless Euro's get up super early or Americans stay up and play between 2-8 AM, it isn't going to be fixed soon.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:14 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the people you're thinking of are: students and young kids
    Apr 3, 2017 12:15 AM - Kidpaler: So, the majority of people who play Empires
    Apr 3, 2017 12:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to an extent; the core population is students, indeed, and young adults AND people in education but before college
    Apr 3, 2017 12:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: staying up late is a student thing for sure
    Apr 3, 2017 12:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but it's the kids that are on in the early hours
    Apr 3, 2017 12:16 AM - Kidpaler: Not during school and not that late
    Apr 3, 2017 12:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: midnight pacific is when EU is waking up on a free day
    Apr 3, 2017 12:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's almost an overlap
    Apr 3, 2017 12:18 AM - Kidpaler: Yea, and Weekends reflect that
    Apr 3, 2017 12:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yup, we just need *more* people in general
    Apr 3, 2017 12:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's always those crazy few that would stay
    Apr 3, 2017 12:18 AM - Kidpaler: However, weekdays it is dead for hours because even Euro's hardly get on for weekdays
    Apr 3, 2017 12:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and it's those few that we need. lowpop starts at 4 competent players
    Apr 3, 2017 12:20 AM - Kidpaler: Yea, but those games are horribly unfun
    Apr 3, 2017 12:20 AM - Kidpaler: Im not gonan stay up when it gets to be below a 4v4, it is just unfun.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:20 AM - Kidpaler: The game requires lots of people to be fun.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:21 AM - Thexa4: if you create some bot intermission maps it'll be much more fun :)
    Apr 3, 2017 12:24 AM - Kidpaler: Yea but even then we have issues. If I create a bot survival map, I can't scale it to the # of players in the round and I can't increase the difficulty as it goes on other than spamming more and more bots
    Apr 3, 2017 12:26 AM - Thexa4: why can't you scale it?
    Apr 3, 2017 12:28 AM - Kidpaler: I mean, I might be able to find a way but as far as I know it would be hard/not possible
    Apr 3, 2017 12:31 AM - Paradox: The only way we get more people is if we do a big all out promo push and have atleast 5-10 people dedicated during that week to learning new people almost around the clock
    Apr 3, 2017 12:32 AM - Kidpaler: Well, the new tutorial will be out by then hopefully so
    Apr 3, 2017 12:32 AM - Paradox: = aint happening
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it has to be a gradual process
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and if low pop empires is not fun
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: identify the "unfun" things
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and make them fun
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - Kidpaler: The unfun things is the game isnt hectic.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:46 AM - Kidpaler: Its more fun the more hectic it gets.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - Kidpaler: At low pops, it cant be that. You can't do anything to increase that either.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's still a very broad term, hectic
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i disagree, there are ways to improve this aspect
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - Kidpaler: Crazy, unpredictable, lots of stuff can go into that. And that's what I mean.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but it's a discussion for another place and another time
    Apr 3, 2017 12:47 AM - Kidpaler: It's unfun when 1 person who is insanely good at the game joins a 4v4
    Apr 3, 2017 12:48 AM - Kidpaler: Its unfun when you run 5 minutes, get shot in the head, respawn and try again
    Apr 3, 2017 12:48 AM - Thexa4: then coop maps might help?
    Apr 3, 2017 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said, not the place (overall), not the time (for me)
    Apr 3, 2017 12:48 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the issues you presented so far can be addressed though.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: *leaves*
    Apr 3, 2017 12:49 AM - Kidpaler: If you do a coop map, it really isn't Empires anymore. Sure, it would help with that low pop feel, but then it's not Empires, it's a whole new gamemode.
    Apr 3, 2017 12:49 AM - Kidpaler: You'd have new people joining and thinking this is what the game is
    Apr 3, 2017 12:51 AM - Paradox: empires is dead for gradual proces
    Apr 3, 2017 12:52 AM - Paradox: theres absolutely no way in hell empires will survive if we trust on gradual proces
    Apr 3, 2017 1:13 AM - Kidpaler: Not really, tons of new people try the game out every day it's just nothing keeps them/the game is extremely confusing
    Apr 3, 2017 1:35 AM - Paradox: so you disagree with me and then continue to give the reason why Im right? lol
    Apr 3, 2017 2:28 AM - Kidpaler: Not at all? A gradual progress would work because we do get tons of new people daily and it could go up slowly we just need better tools to teach the people who join
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