reno air race crash

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  1. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    The U-2's fuel is a classified, you should check it out.. Pretty interesting. Yeah I know a bit about the Vulcan, but I still think just because its old to us doesn't mean some 3rd world country couldn't benefit from it.

    Where could I find info about that bomber simulation?
     
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    Wow that video is crazy, the whole plane is turned into a billion tiny pieces.

    Speaking of c-17s, every few months one or two c-17s pass over my house at low altitude.
     
  3. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    In one of the earlier videos you can see the pilots torso flying with the debris and the parachute deploy before hitting the ground.. Also some people were covered with the fuel which was burning them.

    Those c-17's are fucking monsters lol I would hate to see one of those crash
     
  4. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Skyshield

    Also, the Vulcan did become outdated pretty quickly, within like 15 years or so. But it just looks incredible, and the noise it makes is unlike any other aircraft, it's just so badass. That's why I asked Blizzerd to use it as an inspiration when he did this: http://forums.empiresmod.com/showthread.php?t=13977 (some more pics on page 7 onwards I think). Shame it was just a concept.

    But yeah, airshow crashes are pretty terrible. We lost a Red Arrow a few weeks back, who are actually part of the RAF, due to a mechanical failure or something, and the pilot died because he had the choice of ejecting or guiding the plane away from the civilians, and he chose the latter. Tried to eject right as he got to the ground but it was too late.
     
  5. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    haha that's a pretty interesting read.. That Vulcan looks pretty bad ass, I kinda am not a big fan of wing shaped aircraft but i like the looks from the front view. Hopefully I can find some videos after work that have the sound of it. That's one reason why I love those reno air races, the p51's have such an incredible sound.

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    But yeah, it's one thing to see videos but to actually be there.. Gives me the chills just thinking about it.. And I am the type of person who is facinated by shit like that, I have always felt numb to watching horror but that's exactly the difference, you are watching it from the safety of your computer chair..

    I think most pilots would choose the latter.. I know I would.. It's too bad for this guy though cause his elevator trim tab fell off and was hanging on the back, I think when he realized that he tried to gain altitude to pull out and land but since it was missing off one side it was an uneven climb. Dying because of mechanical error rather than pilot is a lot harder pill to swallow
     
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  6. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Yeah, the Mustang was arguably the best fighter from WW2. The early Spitfires were comparable, but where the Americans realised that the fantastic manoeuvrability was a good thing, we were retarded and kept adding more and more gadgets and shit, weighing it down, so that all the Spitfires progressively got heavier and heavier, until they handled like a brick. That's why the Mustangs are still used today for racing, they're just so fucking awesome for that.

    But when that Vulcan turned up at the airshow, my fucking god. I have heard some incredible shit, but you didn't hear that sound, you FELT it. They just don't make aircraft that sound as manly as they used to. And I agree on the flying wing thing, they usually look ugly, but with it being so big, I think that makes it a bit of an exception.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VECwLl06ik0

    This is a video of the first flight of the last Vulcan, it's been restored to fly, and should last a couple more years before it has to be retired, it's just a showpiece run by a charity. But the airframe and engines only have so much life left in them, so once this one finishes up, that'll be it for the Vulcan. There's also a video that get's recommended after that one "Vulcan spectacular take off" where the thing pulls up near vertical from take off. It's old and low quality but fucking impressive.
     
  7. blizzerd

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    the Germans produced far better aircraft BY FAR then any other nation during and a while after ww2

    the messerschmitt line is a testimony to that
     
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  8. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Not entirely true. The Mustangs generally outclassed Bf 109 assuming they weren't prepped for long range escort (In which case they had a lot of extra weight in fuel, and less maneuverability due to the fuel tanks on the wings). This was because, to put it simply, the Mustang came later, and some key aspects of the Bf 109 were taken into account when designing. For example, the 109 turned much slower in one direction than the other, so a huge emphasis was put on turning circle with the Mustang. Of course the Jet powered Me 262 was better than the Mustang, but I'm generally talking in reference to props, though I should have mentioned that.
     
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    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    So I turned my sound and sub up a bit, I wasn't let down.
     
  10. blizzerd

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    the bf 109 had 3/4 the turning circle then the mustang at its time, was way cheaper to build, was faster and had better tech incorporated (air boost for example, nazis invented pumping air in the engine to give a temp speed boost)
     
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    Fairly sure I read that the BF 109 had much larger turning circle in one direction than the other, hence the US focused on that to give their Mustang the advantage.
     
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    ive read that too
     

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