Remove the scout because the grenadier is all you need to do commando missions.

^ agreed ^

 

that really doesn't work. In my experience, getting to cover after a scout snipes you, or sneaking up to a scout and taking him out is just as fun, if not more fun because of the change of pace from ordinary circlestraffing gunfights.

what's more, there is ample opportunity for players to get closer to a scout and take him out; you're saying that there's NO chance that a non-scout can kill a scout? well that's just plain wrong.

what you're missing from your "calculations" is the fun that can be had from avoiding a scout, getting to one and taking one out, or even just firefights where it's not one sided.

 

Instead of continuing the usual "don't remove this, it's fun" comments when it's clearly not fun for everybody, lets try to focus on making things better.
The Scout is a Scout, not a sniper, just because scouts in real life have snipers doesn't means that we have to follow that path, remember, Krenzo says "fuck realism".
In real life people don't have enhanced senses, or increased speed, or health regeneration, they live once, if they die, they die.
Scouts should have weapons to help them with scouting, such as the suggested long-range tag rifle, and silenced weapons for close range killing.

 

Most scouts camp in firing range of a mortar = med/close range.
I know that cause i play 95% of the time as grenadier.
In that range a scope rifle is imao useless...
I would have killed more enemys at that range with a rifleman weapon.
Conclusion: Scout rifle is for those people that cant use the iron sights
of the ausault rifles

 

So why does the game look so realistic? Why are the guns, vehicles, and classes realistic?

If Krenzo really wants to fuck realism, we need hover tanks, laser guns (that go pewpewpew), an ion cannon, etc...not track tanks with cannons...or have the infantry be alienated, like green lizard people vs purple bigfoots...

That too is realistic. Think of increased speed as lighter weight equipment or someone who has worked out/track runner, enhanced senses as equipment that can detect better (ya know, like night vision, heat vision, etc, they are developing helmets for todays soldiers with this kind of technology), increase damage can be either they are stronger or better ammo.

 

Skills are applied in the two sides' respective ability: nanotechnology for BE and genetic manipulation for NF, no equipment or training. This can apply to anything because it affects the body itself.

 

And is not realistic?

 

Does large scale nanotechnology integration into humans and genetic manipulation on humans occur today? No, let alone have it occur in a short period of time. Keep in mind, Empires is not set in our universe, it does not have to follow our universe's laws and methods.

 

We are getting to the point where nanotechnology is increasingly becoming part of every day studies. It is realistic to have nanotechnology do things like in Empires, practical no but realistic yes.

Also if it doesnt have to follow, how come it is?

 

Get to the point km, you keep on saying Empires is realistic, while it's not. You keep on saying that removing snipers is a bad thing, yet it would only help improve things. Why do you so strongly oppose this kind of decision? The weapon was never intended to be a sniper rifle, complaining about it being removed or changed while doing so is the right thing to do seems illogical.

 

Well I like where this is going, someones gonna say F*** nah jks. Oh wells I don't need snipers to win, all you should need an AR + Accuracy upgrade and you should be able to snipe people from a pretty long range especially in bushes :D Btw Range Rifles are awesome in close range they have a Crosshair + has pretty good no scope accuracy, anyways not the point. Will the scout get anything when the Rifle is removed?

 

I WAS working with a squad. They were the ones driving the tanks, and I was eliminating the defenders that were giving them headaches.

The scout's getting changed, I get that. But, for the record, I heavily disagree on this point. Even going against a scout as a rifleman, unless they nail the first shot I can take them out easily. It's not like snipers are some sort of untouchable god. They're very fragile, and VERY killable. Then, of course, there's the varying tactical situations you have to deal with when your squad is pinned down by a sniper. It opens up new gameplay possibilities, as opposed to everything just becoming a head-on deathmatch.

 

Havn't you been reading, apparantly its gonna be shotguns. So now you have to risk getting caught scouting enemy territory in order to get any kills

 

Poking dead bodies with calculators to bring them back to life is realistic too.

 

100% untrue. God that was an awkward funeral.

 

ooo shotguns, From Ultra Long range to Ultra short range :D Shotguns are now the fun THING! So how would the shotties look like? Double Barreled? Todays Shottie? Futuristic Shottie with a nade launcher?

 

take the same rifle but without the scope for decreased range and accuracy or smg2 as alternate / shotgun for when you're hidden in the enemy radar, so you can shoot the head off a guy looking for you in one shot / pistol.
nice compromise solution no ?

anyways i repeat : thank you thank you thank you for removing that gameplay killing piece a crankshafts.

 

you are killing empiresmod imo

 

How about we all drop this conversation, the scout shouldnt be removed, it should be given a different weapon (from what ive heard it is getting a new one) so just stfu and gtfo of this thread. this is pointless now.

 

Someones reading too much forums, and getting frustrated of it. :D