Redesigning the Empires art

Discussion in 'Art' started by Redskull, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    Rip Mk Ii.t.t.y
     
  2. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    I agree, just put it in the game before it never gets in game. Screw tweaks, we can tweak it after it's in game.
     
  3. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
     
  4. f1r3w4rr10r

    f1r3w4rr10r Modeler

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    Honestly, I'd rather give all the models a complete overhaul. Sure you can replace them one by one. But stopping half way and putting it in, just to come back to it later and having to do about 30-40% of the work again is pretty damn stupid.
     
  5. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    That's one POV, the other being gradually improving the game one small step at a time.
     
  6. Urknall

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    I absolutely agree with you! Redskull did a fantastic job, we need new things... Let's start to find solutions, not problems!! Nobody can make PERFECT models, graphics whatever... everthing is a compromise. After all, we can improve it step by step... the mod is - like everything - a process.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2014
  7. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Less whining, moar this.
     
  8. Redskull

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    Ive been busy lately, but progress on the lowpoly has begun. Once that's done I will make sure it actually works in-game before texturing it.
     
  9. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    K, my anus is being prepared for your hotness.
     
  10. Angry

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    What's the poly count for the current high poly? I hope to god the your just doing it for the purpose of LoD, I'm sick and tired of the fucking shit argument that it'll make peoples computers run at lower frames. It's not 1999, this isn't a real issue anymore, even Xello's prehistoric 8800GTX could run empires on full.

    I'm cool with people with lesser computers running an ugly low poly as long as people with decent builds can have the high polies.
     
  11. Redskull

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    So what kind of polycount would be fine for an in-game tank model? The high-poly that I'm going to bake my maps from is currently around 620k without any smoothing on.
     
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  12. Beerdude26

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    Valve Developer Community docs: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Model_Creation_Overview#Performance_and_Budgets

    You can probably do some extremely agressive LOD optimization to be able to give you a 15,000 - 18,000 tris budget. A LOD model for 10 meters away could already cut it down by a few thousand so the highest-quality model is only seen when up close or while driving the tank.

    This Facepunch thread notes there isn't a hard vertex limit, but there is a 32 material limit.

    I couldn't find a hard polycount limit on the .MDL format (which we use). The .DMX format has a hard limit of 400k.
     
  13. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    /me dreams of ultra quality LOD models...
     
  14. Angry

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    BONER CONFIRMED FOR ROCK HARD

    Although it's funny because the industry average now is 15k to 30k for vehicles and characters. goes to show how old source is I guess.
     
  15. f1r3w4rr10r

    f1r3w4rr10r Modeler

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    Heh, that used to be around 4k for half life 2. ^^
     
  16. Angry

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    That's nothing, I saw models for a Japanese volley ball game once, the braided hair for the character model was rocking 14k alone.
     
  17. f1r3w4rr10r

    f1r3w4rr10r Modeler

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    Just had a look at the CSGO models, they are around 15k triangles.
     
  18. Beerdude26

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    EP2 Jalopy is 16k and Source 2013 was supposed to give a big rendering boost, so it's time we use up all that extra juice :)
     
  19. Redskull

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    Hey guys,

    Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been real busy lately! I managed to put aside a few hours to start unwrapping the low poly model so it's comming along.
    The tank tracks will be changed a little bit aswell as the thin rails protecting the front headlights, as they are really poly-dense.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. f1r3w4rr10r

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    How many UV sets do you think you are going to use?
     

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