Quick Start Guide

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  1. Simon

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    This is a guide for everyone who just DLed Empires and are looking to play for the first time. Reading this will put you way ahead of everyone else who hasn't read it and it will increase your chance of me not banning you on any server I'm admin on by 10.

    Start of Game

    1.Commander: Vote for someone who already has alot of votes. Do not command if you are new, wait untill you understand the basics of the game and understand what research is good ext.

    2.BE ENGINEER on classic maps at the start. I know scout sounds really cool but it is not, your team will lose and you will not get any good tank upgrades. Or ammoz.

    3.You can get extra ammunition from engineers from ammo boxes they can drop or from an armory which you will not have at the start of the game.

    4. JOIN A SQUAD AND MOVE OUT. No, there is not a vehicle factory when the game starts. If you noticed someone who did good in the game before, follow them if they are engineer and watch what they do. Believe it or not, but the most deaths among new players come from enemy mines. ALWAYS keep a lookout for them on the ground.

    Engineer Class:

    5. Turrets are really cool. Placing them at the very start of the game to defend your barracks is a bad idea. Your wasting time. See point 4. You need to secure forward bases and refinerys quickly at the start of the game or the other team will win.

    6. Get repair upgrade. It lets you build alot faster meaning your wasting less time building and more time moving up. This is really important at the start when there is alot of stuff to build.

    7. Cameras show enemy infantry, this can be usefull on a map like crossroads where everyone is packed in a small area in the middle. It is like free wallhacks.

    Turrets

    8. The best way to destroy a turret is 3 engineer grenades. Alternativly, a grenadier is a good way to destroy turrets as well. Shooting them with your machine gun though, is not a good way to destroy them.

    9. Level 1 turrets you can throw grenades at from a distance they can't hit you from but once they get too level 2 and 3 you will need a new tactic for killing them. Either tanks or grenadiers are a basic way but you can try using walls to creep up on them with another engineer or use the geomtry of the map to find a way to get close without them shooting you.

    Walls

    10. Again, one of your first ideas might be to build a giant wall around your base. NO. Bad. See point 4.

    11. Walls can be used to provide cover from turrets and to block in tanks or enemy command vehicles. An effective use is to use them to defend buildings against rocket fire. Also if you have a forward APC that is visable to the enemy it is a good idea to put walls in front of it so it can't be rocket sniped.

    12. Shooting walls is not an effective way to remove them. Using the engineer calculator(building tool) you can deconstruct them.

    Vehicles

    13. As a general rule of thumb, if your going to buy a jeep, just get an APC instead and park it somewhere safe and walk the rest of the distance.

    14. Do not waste your tank. This is not BF2, they don't respawn for free. They cost your team money, generally money your team cannot afford to lose. Fall back and repair rince and repeat. Engineer is a good class to be for in tanks with repair upgrade as you can repair your tank in the field and give yourself ammunition.

    15. Going close to an armory or on a repair bay will give you ammunition. Also, engineer's ammo box they drop will give you ammunition.

    16. Untill you get upgraded armor your tanks will be very weak, be extra carefull. Also untill you get upgraded engines your tank will overheat very easily.

    17. Watch out for mines. They hurt your tank, alot. Another class that is good to be in a tank is grenadier because you can chose the mine defusal skill that will let you drive over mines without setting them off.

    18. Standard cannon doesn't do that good damage to buildings, if you come across a bunch of level one turrets get out and use your engineer grenades. HE cannon on the other hand does excellent damage.

    19. Keep an eye on your heat levels. If someone is a distance aways from you and driving in circles and you are sitting there spamming your weapons he might just be baiting you and once you are red(overheadted) and cannot run or fire your weapons he will swoop in and kill you.

    20. Wait till you have a shot to shoot. You have to take your tanks speed and the enemys tank speed into account when firing it is tricky, keep practicing.

    21. Pay attention to your surroundings. If your fighting in no mans land and behind the enemy tank he has a base with some turrets and behind you you have some base and turrets try running away. The enemy might think you are damaged and risk taking a few hits from your turrets to kill you. Once you lead him to your turrets start blasting him and try to ram him so he can't escape the turrets range. This also gives you a longer distance you can chase the enemies damaged tank before you run into his turrets. This is just one example, use your surroundings to your advantage, pay attention to what is going on.

    22. Stay together. Two medium tanks are better than one heavy tank. Make sure to work as a team. If the enemy is focusing fire on your friendly tank and you still have full armor try ramming the enemy tank to block his shot of your teamates tank. Also focus your fire on one target to get it down quickly.

    23. If there is alot of diffrent options for weapons/armor/engines and whatnot and your not sure what type of tank you should make and what you should customize it with try asking one of your better teamates or your commander.








    What else should be included. I'm looking for mostly common things emp_recruits do that make you want to shoot yourself in the face. IE shooting turrets.
     
  2. Valiant

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    add something about doing what the commander asks, as that drives me crazy.
     
  3. Ikalx

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    On close combat/ no-build maps, as an engineer with the revive skill you need a full row (one half) of engineer ammo to revive someone.

    p.s. try not to respawn quickly as a fellow engineer will probably be risking life and limb to revive you, or your squad leader is waiting for a mass rev.
     
  4. Valiant

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    Maybe us CW types should just put up parts of our wiki, drag and i (mostly drag)
    came up with a massive list a while back.
     
  5. knighttemplar

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    Simon...you're being helpful?

    This is encouraging
     
  6. Simon

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    I am not doing anything for infantry maps, don't correct grammar, spelling and stuff that sounds odd. I'll do that later.

    Mostly just basic stuff that will get new players not doing stupid things. This was brought on a game I just had on the 1.08 server with someone who apprently had never played.

    simon: please be engineer
    sdgdgsd: y?
    gfdhfhdf: yeah y?
    simon: because it is a 3 person game and your scout and grenadier?
     
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  7. Ikalx

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    lol. Well I use revive on norm maps too :p
     
  8. mr_quackums

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    as first skill?

    alwase join a squad.

    follow com orders
     
  9. Ikalx

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    Yes, if the server's populated enough sometimes I leave the building to others and move forward with the squad to rev and heal until we get established. If people prefer to be medics this is exactly what they'd do.
     
  10. Private Sandbag

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    simons list is PERFECT because it tells emp recruits what they NEED to hear before they should be allowed near our servers without including all the other stuff that they can pick up playing in a game.

    don't suggest things like "hey simon y dont you add "you can jump on turrets and deconstruct them" " because these can be learned ingame.

    good work simon.

    I'd remove the stuff about "most player deaths come from mines" because it's not true and it isn't helpful to new players really. it is kinda funny though picturing them running up to mines and blowing themselves up, perhaps it is needed. its up to you.
     
  11. Simon

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    Beerdude made me add it.
     
  12. Beerdude26

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    Come on Sandbag, don't tell me you didn't get blown up countless of times by unsuspecting newbies :p
     
  13. Private Sandbag

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    lol. that section needs to be tattoo'd on buttery lobster's forhead :D
     
  14. Simon

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    Just newbies???

    To be fair I've blown my fair share of people up by stepping on mines.
     
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    good one.
     
  16. Valiant

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    As much as i dislike like his method's... He does know his stuff :/
     
  17. Simon

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    Erm, debatable.
     

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