Nuclear Dawn looks a little like empires

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  1. Dr. Turtle

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    Fooshi For fuck's sake Fooshi

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    it looks beast but of course they stole from Emp
     
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    See this is the time when the developers add aircraft's to empires.

    And don't worry about balancing issues, you can deal with those in future updates.

    Valve does it all the time with TF2, why not us with Empires?
     
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    Coz valve has a bazillion modellers and we don't.
     
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    bazillion and one
     
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    recon SM Support Dev

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    Yea... Right... Ever played Empires? Oh wait, that's the game you ripped off.
     
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    They have to pretend they are the first, gets more sales that way.
     
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    does ND have vehicles? i didnt read much on their site and i didnt read a word. iirc for empires this was the first i read. at first i thought this game would be a bad battlefield rippoff (emp now) but then i read something about RTS and was liek wowow NEEEEED.

    anyway, if it has no vehicles, then its a ripoff of NS more then EMP ;)
     
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    Empires is hardly a shining example of fpsrts.

    NS would probably be a better comparison as at least NS does it well.
     
  12. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    Ns isn't a true hybrid as Empires is. Not saying Empires is better, just looking at it from a FPS-RTS perspective.

    Nuclear Dawn is positioning their product to emphasize exactly this problem. NS, Savage, and most others aren't true Hybrids, they simply have both elements. Empiresmod is a horrible mess and while staying more true to a hybrid, the many imbalances delude its hybrid status.

    They're simply positioning themselves as the true FPS-RTS no.1 game. It's just marketing. They aren't the first, but the no.1 is the most memorable, like Cola vs Pepsi, Nike vs whatever. So they position themselves as no.1 differently.

    It doesn't matter if it's true or not, it's just what they want you to remember it by.
     
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    NS has a somewhat simple RTS element.

    Empires re-adds a couple of minor elements such as vehicles, although that is arguably irrelevant to the RTS portion because in terms of purchaseable superior units, NS has the HA and JP, it's an RTS based around infantry.

    Empires has a more complex tech tree but many RTS games don't have that. Honestly NS has a fully fledged if somewhat simple RTS system and it works, whereas empires has a slightly more complicated RTS system which doesn't at all. I don't really see much difference between the two though in an RTS mechanics sense, apart from quality.

    I think NS is the better comparison if you're trying to claim that your rts/fps is a good hybrid.
     

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