.NET frawework ?

Discussion in 'Support' started by [EnT] Nachos, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    lol imagine 1gb ram with Norton 360 installed... HA... it would eat 30% of that and shit all over your CPU.
     
  2. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    What the fuck

    I could probably mail you an entire new computer (motherboard + cpu + gpu + ram) for 20 dollars or something
     
  3. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    i take 10 please
     
  4. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    It's like seeing African children starve, isn't it.
     
  5. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    Just checked, I can send a 10kg parcel to anywhere in europe for 50 euros. I might just look around for some old desktops to send to Nachos
     
  6. [EnT] Nachos

    [EnT] Nachos Member

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    @Lazybum, ViroMan, McGyver

    Indeed, but leaving the AV out is not an option. Too paranoid not to use one (even if they are more of a placebo nowadays). This computer was never intended for gaming anyway, I use(d) it for programming. I don't have too much time to play anyway.

    @Beerdude26: Thank you, but don't waste your time with this. I can get some decent hardware pretty cheap here but I wouldn't use it too much ;).
     
  7. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    I have honestly thrown away PCs better than that.
     
  8. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    you said new computers :o
     
  9. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    I bet your empires still runs better than on my own pc, that runs normal games in respectable res/fps.
     
  10. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    ITT: Too lazy to rewrite launcher, better mail a new computer.
     
  11. ViroMan

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    Didn't someone already rewrite the launcher?
     
  12. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    The next performance patch will consist of Empires devs sending each active player a PC that runs Empires faster.
     
  13. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Luckily thats quite cheap, since there are none.

    I am not going to touch Basic with a 10 foot pole ._.

    Edit: I wish I could write Empires in C#. It is such a pleasure to use.
     
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  14. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    Empires still has active players, even more so if you give everyone a new PC.
     
  15. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    What did you use anyways? C++, VB, Delphi, other? It should be fairly easy to remove the .NET code and substitute proper code.

    OR... just compile it with this...
    LINKY and make native code that doesn't need .NET while still using .NET code. :)

    edit: although further reading says only works on x64 cpu's.

    I also read something about using ngen to build in the dependencies. Seems like a bit of wizardry to my though.
     
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  16. JustGoFly

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    I had a problem with the Launcher on my old XP 64 bit 1.8 Ghz dual core laptop - previous discussion here. It showed Installing .NET and froze forever. The way I got around the problem was:

    Leave the install screen up
    Bring up Task manager (Ctrl Alt Del -> Start task manager)
    highlight the SETUP.EXE app
    Now launch Empires AGAIN
    Second launch spawns a second Setup.exe
    It will show an error.
    From task manager delete the highlighted one - you previously left highlighted.
    Click OK to dismiss the error message - game will launch.

    <I'm just a player - Follow Trickster and Jephir recommendation first>
    Just saying - try the above to see if your problem is the same as what I experienced.

    A new install on a newer laptop resulted in no problems with the launcher.
     
  17. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    You still need the .net framework for that. It just optimizes stuff ahead of time. If someone wants to rewrite it, feel free and put in a pull request on github, just don't do it in a normal programming language, preferably c/c++.
     
  18. ViroMan

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    ... under what?
    Looking at github shows a shit ton of projects with empires in the name.

    edit:
    pfff... soon as I post this I find it.
     
  19. ViroMan

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    So... I downloaded it and am creating C++ code using VS2012... fucking hate it. I hate doing C++ without extras(I depended on borland code too much)... that plus learning a new IDE, its killing me doing this without .NET. :(

    I have all of your original code converted. Its just creating all the code to support it(extra code that .NET handled) that is taking time.

    I might even toss in support for an animated splash(if we can scrape one up). :)
     
  20. ViroMan

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    So I finished code for it... and run its first test and HL2 reports...
    "can't find background image materials/console/startup_loading.vtf"

    The command line passed in is...
    "c:\\program files (x86)\\steam\\steamapps\\common\\Source SDK Base 2007\\hl2.exe -game \"c:\\program files (x86)\\steam\\steamapps\\<USERNAME\\Empires>\""

    Anything wrong with that?
     

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