I never said it was unwarranted, I said it wasn't adding anything to the discussion, he claims he's experienced but has never thought of restricting and using presets. I replied to his first arguments, his reply to that is just a continuation of his first post, disregarding anything I've said, simply because (from his own words) he doesn't "agree" with them. That's not a discussion and there is nothing to agree to. Let me give an example: If a kid screams for candy and is told that candy is bad for his teeth, it doesn't really matter if he agrees or not; as well as that out of ignorance that kid will then continue his original rant of wanting candy. See how this isn't personal? It's a generalization, it might not even apply, if you feel offended by it, you can say so, but it's not a personal attack in my book. The part about him being an experienced player was a suggestive retort. I did not say he was dumb, I said the point was dumb. Asking whether he has read my post was a question, not a personal attack, I did not refer to him as a person. it wasn't even insulting, the only thing being implied here is that it's doubtful that he has read my post as I had addressed the point (2nd or 3rd in a row). The point is to discuss and argue, not simply say "you don't play, you're wrong, I'm right, look at my stat page that could possibly show, how my social life revolves around screaming at newbies through a mic, more than anything else."
too slow, potential for spawning at the wrong vf, the player doesn't get teleported (or moved, whatever) inside the vehicle, you have to save presets beforehand, and what the fuck are we talking about again
Just a question: Uh, the scripts for the AFV MKII suggest that it doesn't have the new weight, cost and health values. So, either it's actually weaker than the AFV MKI, or it's getting its values from somewhere else. halp?
It's faster than building a tank in the vf as infantry. You can select the vf and it will auto select that vf to drop tanks from, it's still faster as you can see people walking up to it and potentially drop tanks before they reach the vf (yes even when it's next to the barracks, you could spawn it while they spawn). They don't teleport, but they don't actually need to go inside of the vf to build one, if you want to pick who gets a tank, you'll still have a better chance at giving the right person the tank than unrestricting for a second, i've done it many times before and I know it's actually pretty easy to let the right person get the tank.
Who needs presets? you can make the vehicle customized while running. Or you can customize the vehicle you want for maps like escort while waiting for the round to start. the vehicle customization menu can be opened anywhere. No point making presets when it takes 10 more seconds (which can be during the above situations) to customize. The only people who take more than 5 seconds to customize a tank properly are people who aren't familiar with tank weapons and armor and such. Anyone who's played for more than 10 games can do it. Setting presets is also pointless as long as the presets change every time you adjust the preset. Presets would be great if it was just a preset amount of armor (heavy tanks for example) for certain sides. click the armor button takes the most time when customizing a tank. Last comment: a commander shouldn't have to micromanage his team in order to get tanks out effectively. Make the process nice for matches, and fluid for pubbers. in other words, change he UI, add in a box where you can TYPE the number of plates in or something. Possible an auto fill button to fill the armor clockwise or counter clockwise until the weight limit is full. Stuff like that would make the game much more fluid, which is what is needed. The principles of the game are sound. Just need to tweak numbers and give it a bow tie.
So are you saying that in the future only the presets made by the commander will be available for infantry?
An odd philosophy certainly when one of the selling points of empires is that you can customise your tanks, except you can't because the commander is supposed to lock the VF, oh wait.
It's up to the commander to restrict, that's what I was saying. Customization doesn't mean you have to do tedious work, it could also mean you could alter existing presets to your wishes. In any other case I would happily explain what I mean in great detail, the thread topic is "MKII in retrospect" though.
Unless you're comparing his common sense to that of a kid compared to the twenty-some old teen/adult, this point isn't quite as good as you may've initially imagined. Additionally there's sweets that are sugar-free and better for teeth, so it could be the parent in that example that is the ignorant one, the kid is just a crybaby. I still firmly believe MKIIs need their own research division, though not much to deviate from research paths but to make it a tactic to go straight for mediums or whatever and ignore the mkIIs
on this matter, the difference between an adult and a child is that the child does not know it is acting childish and unreasonable, while the adult can on other subjects act exactly the same but give it a small twist like "principle" or "justice" and refuse to acknowledge the real intents they have some life experience has taught me that the only difference between children and adults behavior is that children are just not smart enough to hide certain hidden motives and are not yet customized to the social dogmas and standards then again the relevance to this thread is low dizzyone, care to indulge me on irc? i am quite interested!
Must be wrong, because my 3yr old cousin "wants out" of the pen, but infact he wants out to get me to play trainset that i said no ten minutes ago. ;p But yeah, low relevance. Cause i didnt have anything to add that noone else had said.
Woah the story of trickster's life. Also i voted good idea, only problem is the LTs model being the size of toast and the AFV a scaled up breezeblock
I think MKII's were a bad idea because balancing is complicated enough as it is, this just throws another factor into the mix. Consider especially that eventually you're going to add aircraft and they are going to have to be balanced as well. I think that instead of MKIIs the standard AFV should just get a 2 slot cannon as a balance against the awesomeness of light tanks. Of course, this means that BE is going to always research HE cannon and nothing else, but I think that that's a problem with weapon balancing. A lot of teams research HE cannon regardless. Ever since rails got nerfed there's really not much incentive for BE to get anything else. I have some ideas on how to balance out the cannons, but that's kind of off topic so I'll save it for another thread.
