Make a unified SMG

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  1. GoodGame

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    Merge SMG1 and SMG2 into one SMG, and represent the different features of the two as an alt-fire feature.

    E.g. User just picks SMG, with better range-lower damage being the default. If user wants higher damage, player hits alt-fire which does a reloading animation that changes the SMG to an SMG2 configuration. This represent loading a different type of ammunition---one that has less muzzle velocity but more stopping power.

    Pros---most players prefer SMG1, but gets the occasional SMG2 use without having to re-spec. Makes the SMG more tactically flexible.

    Cons- the few SMG2 players have to alf-fire config at the start of their spawning.
     
  2. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    So.. What command would melee be?
     
  3. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    No offense, but oft'times I get the idea you just suggest things for the hell of it, rather than actually thinking things out on beforehand. This would be a bad idea, two SMGs are fine. Stop trying to fix what isn't broken, please?
     
  4. Lollum

    Lollum Tester++

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    Keep it as it is.
     
  5. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    True.
    Think of the problems, first hand, not new suggestions.
     
  6. GoodGame

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    The con is that class/loadout changes are needed to adapt to changes in the tactical situations on the map when using a SMG. There is a definite tactical difference between the SMG1 and SMG2, and there is the problem that the SMG2 is only useful in small number of situations, yet is more desirable in those situations so I stand by my suggestion in the OP.

    I did neglect the issue of the melee key, but that is minor keymapping issue. I for one never use melee and never see anyone killed by it.

    So there it is.
     
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  7. blizzerd

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    Im sorry to say this but i meelee a couple of players per game if i play engineer
     
  8. gezor

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    why not remove all weapons except 1? then ppl cant cry about imbalance anymore!!
     
  9. Riot

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    also while youre at it, can we combine the rpg and heavy machine gun into one?? Oh and lets give scout pistols a standard cannon attachment too...ooh ohh and the engy calculator FIRES LIGHTING BOLTS TOO!!!!!!

    there's a reason both guns have different attributes, ITS CAUSE THEYRE DIFFERENT WEAPONS!!!! saying its annoying that you have to go back to rax to change loadout when situation changes....you might as well run back n change to rifle then if you dont like the smgs. Guns are fine (well actually2.2 guns all suck balls equally but thats beside the point) as they are
     
  10. GoodGame

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    Because that would be an innane suggestion, since this is a game about killing peoples.
     
  11. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    This could all be fixed by bringing SMG3 back.
     
  12. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    what ? fixing balance? Trick stop taking crack



    ontopic- no , just no
     
  13. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Good. Then stop suggesting the removal of weapons.
     
  14. Spooky

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    I dont think I want a SCAR type weapon in empires, Lets just keep our 5.56's and 7.62's apart for now.


    Also, isnt this kind of ironic coming from the person with the title
    "I for one am glad the SMG3 is gone".

    Not disagreeing, its just a little bit funny.
     
  15. GoodGame

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    I'm not suggesting the removal, only the merger. Basically the two SMGs into one.
     
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  16. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    If I can be brutally honest. Stop suggesting things at all. Out of all the threads I've seen you make or post in, I've never been able to agree with you even once, and most people usually would have said something that'd gotten my vote, even if it was by accident!

    Not that I'm saying my opinion is the end-all and be-all, but seriously, of all the supporters you have, there's not likely even one veteran, or someone in general that knows plenty of the differences between weapons/upgrades/vehicles in Empires.
     
  17. Omneh

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    Didn't you know?

    Slithzerikai is a shameless SMG3 fanboy, and his title is a product of the Dev's cruel sense of humour.
     
  18. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Never forget!
     
  19. Satanchild666

    Satanchild666 Banned

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    It rather looks like a very cool and nasty Nf Machinepistol
     
  20. Gnar

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    there was a melee??
     
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