LF nerds for D&D 5th edition

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  1. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    No, see he tells you your wrong you tell him screw the rules.

    He sighs, and gives up.

    Thanks to his webcam, I certainly know that is exactly what happens.
    That is not him being civil, that's you walking all over him and him letting you.

    Why? because he does not want to argue and play and be the very asshole I described.
     
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  2. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Alright bro, cool, you win, at worst/best we never play again because of your salt, it's cool I guess~
     
  3. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Yeah, and you call me the child.
    I rolled a 10, the rules say 10.

    This would not be an issue, if I actually legitimately failed both of my saving rolls. I would not be salty, actually depressed.
    But I didn't according to the rules, and you telling me to fuck off start again when double checking the rules is the whole reason I made this an issue.

    Cheating on board games is the most petty shit, and defending the action is just wrong.
     
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  4. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    Okay boys, to pass the death save you need 11 or higher, just to be sure no more cheating claims arise.
     
  5. -=]Kane[=-

    -=]Kane[=- Member

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    What do you have to loose DDD? It's not like the end of the world to retcon a fatal administration mistake.
    And I would like to keep my successes on a 10 thank you very much, if we are gonna make throw away characters maybe we should switch do dungeon world or some other system where you're supposed to die within weeks, I would be up for that.
    Yeah, I suppose I don't want to tell DDD how to DM, he's supposed to know the rules in detail and be the rules, I shouldn't need to tell him anything and I don't really want to either, but he's new at it so shit happens.

    Btw, I buried Kevah, Sirius wouldn't let a well respected friend and compainion rott in the sunlight, just for clarification. No, if you retcon Kevahs death, you went with us and get your share of the payment.
     
  6. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Oh thanks, might as well buried me with cement.

    See it would have been easier to fix if you could not find my body at all, or just left me.
    And not see what happend.

    And I shamble into town a week later.

    Hes not going to fix it though no matter who petitions me to be alive, hes going be a jerk and I just wont play.
     
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  7. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    At this point? At this point I'm tired of Teef's approach. 11-20 success is a 50% chance to not get worse during bleedout. Plenty of space to not die still. Characters don't die too often anyways. So far, over the 10+ sessions I've DMed, three people died.

    1) Terrible rolls for firewarrior
    2) Heroism from Ikalx's char
    3) This point of contention

    People don't die a lot in our sessions. Rollplay West Marches (which I still use as a benchmark and source of mechanics) has had 11 sessions and 9 casualties, including a party wipe. You guys aren't doing that bad on the living front.

    Although yeah, I have been considering Dungeon Worls as it was repped as easier to pick up than DnD, but it doesn't have starter rules and I didn't want to spend any money at the time (I now own the Dungeon World rulebook so hey) - now I'm kinda committed to my world, I rather like it.
     
  8. -=]Kane[=-

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    Rollplay Westmarches wouldn't change rules because the DM made once a mistake, Rollplay Westmarches has an entire twitch chat calling out if there's something amiss, please don't pull that card.
     
  9. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    The worst part is that I gave you the 5th edition rule book from my personal collection..
    This is showing your true character, your head is so far up your ass you rather have people not play the game than revert a single death.
    A death that occurred because you moved the goal post when I rolled a legal saving throw.

    Kane, ikalx and bum have said to revert my death, including me that's 4 people.
    4 people are calling bullshit destroyer...
    The 4 people who play your game.
     
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  10. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Hey guys i have this big wheelbarrow of shit to sell, do you need an...

    Never mind, I see youre all good in here.
     
  11. Ikalx

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    Yeah, we're good thanks Z1000000M :)

    Eh...well imo doing what's right isn't heroism, it's just the way it should be. And in the game, when I accepted the ability to revive people, I accepted the responsibility to revive them. As far as I'm concerned, as long as I'm alive no one's dying that day. That's just how it is.

    And fortunately, I was able to see that through.

    Regarding all the death, well I don't think DDD is a cheater or being too unfair - I mean after a death you can't really revert so easily. But, I do think he's being a little hard-headed about it. There shouldn't really be much of a problem allowing a character to be revived in some fashion (totally digging the reincarnation thing since it's a change, too), and if you have a problem with the way the character was played before you shoe-in some trait changes. Also re-roll stats if you want, too.

    That being said, well, Destroyer is the DM and he's never even played the game before, so he has no idea how it feels to lose a character. He's hosting these games without ever having that opportunity, so I don't think it's right to hate on him so much. Also blaming him for not knowing things, well, we ALL have more experience than him playing D&D, so f'off about it. We should all be reading the rules, especially when it comes to our own characters.

    And yeah, Destroyer has been having exams, so he's pretty behind on the reading. It would be different if it were the DM's manual, but DDD's never even seen one of those.

    Last things I want to say to DDD are, well you're hosting so you take the responsibility for that too. Parting of making mistakes is being flexible. Part of playing with people is just straight telling them that you don't like their attitude, or you didn't, or they're making the game too hard by acting up. And if you don't feel that way, it makes no sense to be hard headed about things. Yes, having death is good, the threat of perma death is definitely good, but saving characters from that death or letting them return when felled is also a good part of that.

    I know you're doing something wrong when all 3 comrades went down to a random encounter. But I also know you were having a less than easy day to start with and you also make mistakes.

    The problem is mostly that there's a lot of yelling from different parties, and when you get that you know you're not running a game for people, you're running a game against them.

    If you didn't realise already, these games can make and break friendships, and also they're a pretty good teaching and socialising tool. You put yourself in a lot of situations where you actually care about one another, working through problems and laughing and having fun.

    I know it's hard. You're the youngest and you're getting a lot of crap from people who should know better. But you need to decide whether you don't want someone to play, whether you do want them to play but play a bit more seriously, or whether you want to kill off players fairly regularly. 'cos I gotta say, despite what the internet might have taught you, rpg's are something people play to bring them together, and life and death in these things is often pretty personal.

    Long story short: Everyone step back and be a bit more reasonable about it.
     
  12. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    I rolled a legal saving throw, and it was counted against me.
    And he wont revive my character because of his fuck up and I didn't call bullshit when he cheated me.
    I had to GO SOMEWHERE, I had to attend a BABY SHOWER and A CONCERT.
    I got home at 3am on a Sunday.

    How am I being unreasonable?!
    Do I need to post fucking pictures to prove it?
    Do you need to interview my fucking family to confirm I was not home?

    Destroyer is being a stubborn asshole for something THAT WAS HIS FAULT!!!
    A good gm would have given a MULLIGAN given the circumstances instead of arguing like a asshole giving bullshit excuses.
     
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  13. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    Maybe I'm hard-headed, maybe I'm an asshole, maybe it's the cold, maybe it's the attitudes, but I had a day and a sleep to consider all this and I haven't changed my mind one bit.

    We're not reverting anything. Death saves are a success 11-19. Kevah stays dead and buried. Period. If Teef refuses to play again, okay. If others refuse to play, okay. If that was the last session, okay. There are greener pastures out there, everyone will go where they want.

    This is final. We're not playing for at least two weeks anyways. That is all, take care and watch the salt levels.
     
  14. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    And into the trash it goes.

    Yup he rather we not play anymore than fix his mistakes.
     
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  15. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    On todays episode of Kindergarden Squabbles :
     
  16. -=]Kane[=-

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    Staring guest Z100000M.
     
  17. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    No, no, you got it all wrong, im the narrator.
     
  18. -=]Kane[=-

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    Z1oomy, what's a nar-a-thor?
    /Shit, this thread went downhill fast.
     
  19. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    We all argued about dumber shit before.
    This one just happens to be a in public space.
     
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    (All) Michael: teef rolled a ten and died
     
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