You are just making yourself look like an idiot, Patton. I have to give you some credit for that story you pulled out of your ass though, it was some pretty impressive bullshit.
Impressive bullshit is when people actually believe it. Being called out on it in the first response, kind of poor. Also, more BS, provide one instance of lack of source checking on my part. I don't state something as fact unless I'm sure. I make it very clear with the language if I'm not stating something as fact. If you can't pick up on that, then that sucks to be you, because people around here who don't even have English as their first language manage to understand fine. Anyway, enough dumb for today Cpatton, it's wearing thin.
Not going apeshit, but I've sat through nearly 4 years of scrim organisation where I've had to babysit the other team, and organise them, just to get them into the match on time, because they're totally incapable of understanding simple concepts, and I just don't get why it's so difficult.
It is all about the status quo. It is also the construction and manufacturing business wanting to maintain the imperial system. Since many of the current buildings, standards, and products use the imperial systems, we need tools and machinery to use the imperial system. Since we have tools and machinery using the imperial system, we might as well make the new buildings, standards, products, etc. use the imperial system. It is self-propagating. The last time the federal government tried really hard to convert to the metric system, we only got the 2-liter bottle. Oh, plus any conservative movement would call making to the metric system (especially from a Democratic president like Obama) a "socialistic, European transformation" and "un-American"."
but if you adopt the excess one time cost for adoption would amortize because there is no recurring cost for conversion anymore. might take a few years or a few centuries, but eventually it will equal out. idk i think its a question of how far you plan ahead ...
To make the change you'd have to start with an entire new generation of students, and change the curriculum for every grade they advance to. Start at junior kindergarten, teach exclusively metric, once they finally graduate university the whole curriculum of the school system would have been changed to use the metric system. That would be a solution, but a bit ridiculous, too experimental, and would make social strain due to 2 generations side by side using two different systems. It isn't a walk in a park to change an entire society to use a different way to define the physical world around them. And then comes practical reasons not to change it, for example, a 2 x 4 piece of lumber is 38 mm x 90 mm, not at all convenient to say or measure, and even though the metric system makes measuring easier, hundreds of thousands of workers in the trades are so experienced with imperial measurements the metric system would just slow everything down. It's not simply a one time cost, Canada for example only started using the Metric system since Trudeau in the 70's, but there are still 40 something years of people still alive who grew up with the Imperial system.
no doubt its not as easy as saying "we now adapt to the metric system". still its more of an emotional rather then a rational argument. also do you use the imperial system in actual science too or only in engineering? also grant, one time because it has an end, even if you have to pay over 60years, while if you maintain 2 scales you need to keep converting. thus why i said its a question of how far you plan ahead. and i question that ppl who learned the imperal system cannot adapt within a timespan far under 60years.
Idk, I mean apart from distance/speed, in which the UK is still Imperial, we made the transition over time, slowly making stuff into Metric. It started by making it mandatory to print both metric and imperial (or just metric) measurements on stuff. Most stuff over time just used metric. I mean, we still have some holdouts, like a pint or 2 of milk, and obviously the standard pint of beer, but you don't hear things like gallons much any more except for the usage with MPG. And the schools got around the transition by simply teaching both imperial and metric. I mean, by the time I went through, it was just metric, but my cousin who was a few years earlier than me said that he had the whole crossover curriculum.
Well everything in the US is actually printed both in imperial and metric. There are plenty of smaller cases of changes (30mm cup of medicine, etc.) and the metric system is taught as well as the US imperial system. It is almost exclusively metric system in engineering/science classes (except for some fields that still use non-SI legacy units). I don't think there is an "emotion" impact with moving to the metric system as it has already been taught in school for generations already. The problem is the "one-time cost", which is actually not one time as there are plenty of historical buildings and monuments that will need to be preserved and maintained. This "one-time cost" would indeed take a few decades (or even centuries) to diminish. Personally, I think this would make a great opportunity for a series of new work programs (e.g. mini "New Deals") to fix/update our public buildings, parks, and roads. There is also a huge reduction of overall manufacturing/buildings costs if the world's largest manufacturer (the US) adopted the same measurement system as the majority of the world. But, this will probably need to wait until the recession is behind us, a comprehensive plan to tackle debt is implemented, and a less polarizing president is in office (Not necessarily that it is Obama's fault).
I don't think you understand what "fixing" or "upgrading" a building involves. It isn't simply a unit conversation. There are tools, machinery, materials, etc. that would be needed to be compatible with the existing infrastructure. For a simpler analogy, lets say that the bolts needs a quarter inch torque wrench. You could easily call it a "6.35mm torque wrench" (actually, many tools have their metric equivalent already labeled), but the numbers aren't nice to work with. If "using the metric system" simply means converting the units, that was done almost 40 years ago. The actual benefit of making the change would be making sure that everyone uses the SAME materials with SAME measurements (units AND values). If the US used a different set of lengths (but same units) for resources than the rest of the world, there has not changed!
well idk really, to me it sounds only logical to use a single unit system in a globalized world. i see and understand your arguments, i still think its not unmanageable. and what you said about double standards sounds like youve already set ways in this direction anyway. maybe it just needs time, a lot of time probably ...
But I agree with you? Didn't you read my second last post about wanting the US to fully adopt the metric system by creating public work programs and investments. I'm simply responding to the implication that we just need to make unit conversations to all of our tools and infrastructure (which has already been done) to change our system completely. We will also need to adopt common lengths of materials for constructions and products with the rest of the world as well. It also requires a vast amount of money and time to keep "legacy" tools, machinery, etc. for our older buildings.
Nah, WalMart is right. I do a lot of work with stuff that's measured in Imperial units, and however annoying it is, it would pretty much be nightmare tier to convert everything, when everything is set up for Imperial measurements, and there's only hard, or scanned copies of all the drawings, rather than easy to convert digital ones. It wouldn't be easy to move across. But it has to be done sooner or later, and if the US teach metric as well, and they're already printing metric alongside Imperial, then they're pretty much working towards it now anyway. The UK still isn't all the way there, so it'll take time.
Aren't you like 12yrs old? I would imagine that you are more comfortable using millimeters in both cases.
