"Empires Darkest Dawn Open Beta"!?

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  1. Demented

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    Fixed.
     
  2. aaaaaa50

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    What, I figured it out five pages ago?

    Me>Internet>You :cool:
     
  3. recon

    recon SM Support Dev

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    I'm just narrowing down what the possibilities are.
     
  4. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    In short, the pug but at the least, integrated into the server a bit more.

    /thread
     
  5. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahAHAHAhahAHAHA

    Ignoramus
     
  6. Zeke

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    rly?

    muzt read ze manga then. :cute:

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    Failure... i can smell it.
    i thought people learned a lesson from before about "score tracking"... >_>
     
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  7. RKB53

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    Its the not the type of score tracking you're thinking of.
     
  8. Zeke

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    liieesssssss!
     
  9. RKB53

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    sure, what ever floats your boat. But I'm not at liberty to say what they're actually tracking or spawwn will rip my intestines out and hang me with a Cambodian neck tie
     
  10. Theowningone

    Theowningone Noone likes me :'(

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    Late to the convo, but no not fail. If you wont divulge what the fuck it is, don't expect people to jump on the band wagon.
     
  11. soundspawn

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    The ratings have nothing to do with "ranking" or an absolute measure of worth. It is part of a balancing system that will prevent stacks.

    Yes, that's right, a BSID developed an anti-stack plugin. Commence jokes.

    I'll start: All anyone needs to know is that Epic's are worth 3 BSID's in accordance with Trickster's wishes.

    It uses how you are doing (mostly that day) relative to the rest of the players, and adjusts your rating. When selecting a team, your current rating is considered. It is a plugin not related to Darkest Dawn, but will be featured on the same server.
     
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  12. Metal Smith

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    This is going to produce way more negative feeling than hype if you don't explain what it is in a formal not so trolling manner. Also, you say it's not flame bait, but yet you allow fuckinghamster to post without restraint.
     
  13. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Actually, we have a plugin like that already spawwn, it's just not currently in use. And by we, I mean a 3rd party developed it, offered us use without him releasing it but we just haven't had chance to get the final version. So it's nothing revolutionary.

    But the idea that it's based off that day will cause problems.

    Regardless, your idea of making 1 EPIC worth 3 BSIDs only works if 1 BSID is worth 0.5 pubbers. Hurr /troll
     
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  14. Zeke

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    So you are telling me that ur balance system wont value how good the person is as a player in relevance to the data gathered from his/her gameplay...
    and ur also telling me that the "top10" actually doesnt show the data representing the 10 most valued players acording to the balance system...

    RIghhhttt?

    cuz showing a scoreboard saying top10 that is publicly viewable at every map startup which only show the most valued players acording to how the system works would totally not be a top10 scorelist... RIIIGGHHHTTT?

    *facepalm*
     
  15. soundspawn

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    @Zeke
    you are running away with an incorrect assumption. I can't even begin to explain it to you because clearly you'd prefer to shoot down ideas rather than hear them.

    When/if you'd like to actually know how it works, perhaps even give something constructive, feel free to ask.

    @Trickster
    It's not strictly based off that day, you enter the server with the same rating you had the day prior, however the scores are what I would refer to as "volatile". Your rating will change quickly depending on your performance as well as the performance of those also on the server. It's hard to explain briefly, but this may have helped. Also, I'm not saying it's revolutionary, I'm just saying it's something that others servers currently aren't using.
     
  16. blizzerd

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    if you guys keep protecting this idea against the people that start guessing then start filling in the blanks before people make too much (negative) assumptions


    seriously, spill the beans, its not like it will change world history or anything stop doing the whole "only the elite may know/ spies must be prevented" crap, its just a game and if you made something cool then yay but dont give this "ohhh its still a secret, but try guessing what it is because we want to increase our e-penis size" shit or you can put whatever you made in the hole of whoever did the most work to it


    and yes, im curious, but you guys are just messing up your own release...
     
  17. soundspawn

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    Blizzerd, I completely agree, however as I've stated twice already I am putting together a Q&A (I have other things to do as well so it's taking a while) that will explain. To give you some facts, no secrets:

    In a nutshell, it is a server that runs alongside a source engine server. They communicate. The Darkest Dawn server controls things such as teams and mapcycle. It's like the PUG (from what I'm told) however it's all computer controlled. You have a world map. Developers are free to create new world maps. You move armies on the world map. Your moves dictate the mapcycle/teams on the Empires server. You have a main base that needs defended and your enemy has a main base that you want to destroy. I think it's really bad ass and will add that missing layer of immersion, but then again I developed it so if I wasn't excited, I may as well just format the hard drive now and be done.
     
  18. Zeke

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    i aint hearin fuck all except from rkb who says he cant say shit.

    So yea, ill be constructive to ya now and see what responce i get...

    EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS IN DETAIL, BECOUSE THIS WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS SO I WONT LACK KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ANYTHING AND GET INSULTED FOR NOT KNOWING ABOUT SOMETHING WHICH IM TOLD A FEW MINUTES EARLIER I CANT BE TOLD ANYTHING ABOUT.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

    oh and lets be more constructive... tell me everything about DD's basics while ur at it so people stop being called ignorant and what not for guessing what it is.

    Cheers <3


    edit: i see a evil post being made while im posting, derp.
     
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  19. ScardyBob

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    A balance system based on a measure of skill is the best method for balancing Empires. The major problem is how to correctly measure player skill. If you measure it based on K/D, headshots, vehicle kills, etc. people will change their playing style to whore kills.

    If BSID has found a way to balance teams based on a skill measure that actually reinforces good Empires gameplay, then I'd be impressed and hope they release it publicly. However, I'm skeptical until they release something more concrete.
     
  20. soundspawn

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    @Zeke
    see post above your own. I will post a Q&A with more information shortly.

    As a reminder, Maxaxle created this thread, not me, so I would appriciate you not acting as if I have put this in front of you then insisted you don't get to know. Most BSID members have agreed to not release info so you shouldn't blame RKB for not leaking. Now that the cats coming out of the bag, I have been preparing details for presentation.

    The original plan was not to release anything until later this month, so my time table has been bumped up, we're not just being dicks.
     
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