Empires 2.52 Released

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  1. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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  2. Empty

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    plasma is ruined
     
  3. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    DDD suggested that we try making compo heavier. Looking for feedback.

    Just a pet peeve of mine. Nukes previous effective reload time was 22s. That's a bit silly and unintended. Now it's more like a cannon with a consistent 12s cycle time.

    A non-salvo guided is just doing it wrong. It's simply not fun to have to keep your reticle on target for 6+ seconds with a typical 5-ML clip. You use a salvo and you only have to do it for 2-3s.

    1. Useless weapons are a waste of space.
    2. We need more interesting 3-slot weapons.
    3. We have no cannons with >2s cycle times.

    Three birds, one stone, bitches.

    It handles like HE cannon since that seems to be a beloved cannon.

    Since we haven't had cannons with this kind of cycle time, I'm not sure what kind of DPS is acceptable. This one will be changing.

    Lazybum suggested this and I figure we oughta give it a try. Looking for feedback.
     
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  4. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    So no new entities?
     
  5. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    Sparti, the news threads are the official announcment channels of the Empires dev team, you might want to atleast fake some maturity here...
     
  6. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    seriously? thats about 1/4th respectively 1/3rd damage increase. i wasnt under the impression that infantry is out of balance that much ... for NFHR the difference is most noticeable, where you needed 3 bodyshots for someone without health upgrade its now 2. for its precision and rate of fire thats completely off. if you want to buff a bit, 5-10% maximum, if you want to distinquish it differently introduce or worsen drawbacks, but just trollolol i liek NF is bs.

    i instinctively dont like the plasma change, but i cant really tell why either, so lets see. the salvo guided ml idea is deffinately interesting, its a really underused weapon.

    what i really dislike is that nukes are spammier now. theres a huge difference between 2 more seconds cycle time and 12s additional reload time after each 3 shots (or 4?), even though the total time stays the same.

    but maybe i just should shut up about my concerns and give it a chance. :D
     
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  7. Beerdude26

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    Edited his post accordingly.
     
  8. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Ok, that was a joke. My apologies. I thought people would see only one team's rifles getting massive buffs and immediately get it, but I was wrong.

    I don't plan on touching infantry combat much at all. No one really has any issues with it (or do they?).

    I want to see who decided that PlasmaCN & HECN needed gravities that are exactly 1/80 of a point apart.
     
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  9. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    As long as there's that huge amount of n00bs running into my crosshair (see yesterday) infantry combat is fine. I still don't get how stray shotgun bullets can hit people from 300 meters away, I like it though ^^
     
  10. Ikalx

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    Nice patch! It's good to get a few tweaks to the issues we've been discussing. Guess I've got to play a little now to see how they work out :p

    It's balanced but if you're adept enough, it could use a little shaking up since a fair few of the weapons are serviceable with the approach Trickster took, but not exactly fun.

    As it is, though, balance is always better than imbalance.
     
  11. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    pistols could use a severe falloff increase though, even though we might have gotten used to it, its absurd how accurate they are over distance. i liked the scripts when fallout was introduced and you had to be rather close to be damaging. yeah it was off for some weapons, but all in all quite enjoyable - for me at least. it all feels at lot more ranged now.
     
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  12. Vdragon

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    mmhhhhhhhhh Yiss, can't wait to try it.
     
  13. Grantrithor

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    Already an update? best new dev.
     
  14. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Already I want to complain about how you lowered absorbant's weight, there was no real reason to do that. But it might not effect stuff that much so we'll see.
     
  15. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I expect that some of these changes will be backed off, perhaps that armor change.

    I thought it might make sense that the cheapest armor was the lightest just like turbine is the cheapest & the lightest.

    But I agree that it's hard to tell what affect it'll have (if any). We'll probably try it out for a month and see what happens then.

    Just finished an mvalley match as BE and it's pretty ridiculous. Throw in some coolant and it's a bit of a monster against tanks. DPS is obviously better with literally any other 2+ slot cannon, but it's fun to destroy a turret in one cannon salvo.
     
  16. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    There is a difference between 20 weight and potentially 48 weight.
     
  17. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    a little op with the plasma
     
  18. Urknall

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    I don't understand the discussion... we change it, we test it, we change it, we test it, we change it... the usual way of balancing!!!! Important is: Do the players still use everything for various strategies? And when not, why?
     
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  19. Señor_Awesome

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    All this and it'll probably be another month before I get on again :cry:
     
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    And my spelling mistake lives on
     

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