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Discussion in 'Mapping' started by Silk, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    Just make it have normal refs, its a great look and layout. That gimmick of random refs wasn't what made it fun to play.
     
  2. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Random start locations however...
     
  3. Deadpool

    Deadpool SVETLANNNAAAAAA

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    random and/or multiple start bases are so money, well, not money but, uh, shit.
     
  4. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Idk, I really enjoyed that aspect of Bush, it made every game different.
     
  5. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    Walls are amazingly fugly compared to the rest of the map.
     
  6. Xyaminou

    Xyaminou Member

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    Yeah Empires' maps need some randomness
     
  7. Silk

    Silk Mapper

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    Just fixed the weirdest problem i had in a while.
    A res spot named "res8" (out of 12 spots) wouldn't work ever. Checked everything, from flat surface, models close by and even double names. Copied several other working res spots with their underlying surface but they stopped working once i placed them at spot 8 and renamed them.

    So i tried naming it "res13" and it works.
    What hammer has against the number 8 i do not know.
     
  8. Deadpool

    Deadpool SVETLANNNAAAAAA

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    I meant random starts and multiple starts are awesome :)
     
  9. blizzerd

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    i made some files available for everyone to use at there leisure that enable easy introducing of random starts and random resnodes... its just a part of "wanting"
     
  10. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    cant you set random starts server side anyway?
     
  11. [lodw]keef

    [lodw]keef Hobbit

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    ya

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  12. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    does it work for all preplaced stuff or only for the classic comm-rax-ref combo? and if so, why dont servers use it (at least for certain maps)?
     
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  13. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    im talking about having 8 starting points that the map picks from randomly for example
     
  14. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    yes its ok i know bizzerd, it just came to mind that this cvar is existing ...
     
  15. Silk

    Silk Mapper

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    Removed by Silk
     
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  16. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    broken stuff ... :cries:
     
  17. Silk

    Silk Mapper

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    I took quite a long break after redoing Bush. I've opened up Hammer again though, and i'll be working on Chain again.

    As always, the first weeks after i reopen a map things actually go backwards. Things i knew weren't right but couldn't be bothered to remake, usually get redone after one of my breaks. The changes i've made however are mostly about how the map fits inside the 3d skybox. It now feels much more natural, where the concrete areas somewhat follow the mountain shape. For example the concrete base wall is only present where there wasn't any mountain cliff present already. Mostly on the west side, the base's defense is mostly the mountain cliff itself. Most of the actual base buildings are now in the skybox, a little higher in the mountain.

    I guess no one actually cares about detail like this in empires, but it did bother me constantly. So with this replanned, i can start finishing up the textures and displacements.

    I'll only add minor brush detail to the base before releasing an alpha version of the map. With feedback from the alpha version, and with the improved layout, it'll be easier to add the much needed details

    [​IMG].

    Edit:
    Some bridges are missing atm, as i'm redoing all the brushwork
    Spawn locations are picked randomly. Starting bases will be on opposite corners of the map, for example northwest vs southeast
     
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  18. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    yes, yes, yes!!!
     
  19. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    Wow, the topdown view has an awesome CnC feel to it.
     
  20. Silk

    Silk Mapper

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    I wish the map looked as good from below.
    I've been changing the lights and textures for weeks, and i just can't get it right. It remains bland and boring, which is why i only posted the minimap.
    But i still have a few things to try to improve on this, so i'm still feeling positive about it.

    I haven't played C&C since Generals really.
    I'm assuming the top down views have remained somewhat the same, but with less bright colors as that seems to be the trend in rts games
     

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