Can we please stop escorting

Discussion in 'General' started by BigTeef, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    I want a collection of people to post here about why escort is not a fun map in a brief paragraph.
    Please put a "For" or "Against" before your paragraph.

    And I will list the names on the first page, and then give a written list of people who wish to remove escort from server map rotations and nomination lists to the server owners and state our case and perhaps temporarily remove it.


    For removing escort

    Bigteef
    Grant
    Lazybum
    Complete
    Secruity
    LordDZ
    Trainzack
    Zood
    Spike
    Paradox
    JustGoFly
    Critrawkets
    Creeper

    Against
    removing escort
    people killing empires
    numbers
    cpatton
    guns
    azk
    hobbes
    JK
    Trickster
    Acolyte

    After observing about every escort match the past two months, I have noticed the server population drops after the map ends, or spectate begins to stack until the map ends.

    I have come to the conclusion that people who play empires regularly do not like the map at all, and the ones who do like escort are the people who play once or twice a month or completely new players who don't understand the map entirely.

    My personal quams with escort is that it is just not fun at all, I don't like having vehicles constantly one shot me, and I don't like driving tanks down long narrow paths where I can instantly explode. The map is very abrasive on new players because escort teaches a lot of bad habits, the poor performance frustrates the regular players causing friction on the teams. BE just has to bang their head against the wall and sometimes the wall will break, and that is not how a empires match should work. There is more depth to the game than banging your head against a wall, and the game specializes with the RTS/FPS hybrid. Why do we need to play maps that remove empires from empires? We are handicapping the game by constantly playing escort.
     
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  2. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    Won't the data be a bit skewed since you can't say that you like escort?

    Not that I care, escort sucks

    It sucks because it's one big long line, but not like booty bay, it's 10000x worse because it's a narrow one. That's not fun. it's like the smash bros autoscroller of empires.
     
  3. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    There will be a For and Against option.
     
  4. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Against

    It isn't exactly fun, and there's a bunch of other maps that simply play better as a inbetween comm type of map.

    For

    I get a chance to play around with really dumb/random/fun setups. Though I tend to have more opportunities for that on district or urban chaos, so escort isn't really the only map for such shenanigans.

    Not really personally, but I have a suspicion that some people like to see their score get really high. Any case, escort isn't the worse thing in the world, but I don't think it should be played past 10-12 players on a team. Oddly enough I feel like it's a decent seeding map.
     
  5. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Bum you pick a side, stating both is just going to confuse me when I chart the names.
     
  6. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    If it's for a temporary period then sure, I'm against escort and would like to see a couple of weeks without it. I don't think getting rid of it forever is a good idea though.

    Honestly, what I would really like to see is a map rotation(as in no voting) but with tighter map restrictions on player count. I do believe it's been shown that people suck at choosing maps, never remember to nominate maps, or only nominate escort and district, with a chance of money.
     
  7. Trainzack

    Trainzack Member

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    For

    There is like, no tactical space. No variation in strategy, and the gameplay is very samey.

    Also, what i said here:

    Edit: Against =/= for.
     
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  8. 101010

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    Can I be FOR a 24/7 escort ?
    Nothing but escort. Starting with the 1st version and cycling threw all of them.
     
  9. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    It's fun once in a while. Not when it's voted everytime it pops up in the voting menu.
     
  10. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    So you are against removing it from map rotations.
    Did anyone else besides Train not read the op?

    This is trying to improve our quality of life for empires matches, if you guys just want to fuck around like you always do then don't bother with this thread.
    Like seriously everyone always complains empires is shit and never does anything, all the people here spike managed to accomplish more under a month than anyone else has.
    He fixed the iron sight issue I had for years.

    I am trying to get a collective conscious of people who want to actually play the game without others ruining their experience so players like numbers above me doesn't kill servers with his troll map nominations.
    Escort was played 5 to 6 times a day on average. Thankfully Canyon has managed to bump that down to at-least 2 or 3.
     
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  11. Sgt.Security

    Sgt.Security Member

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    For.

    For only one reason, the map is retardedly imbalanced.
    If this issue is fixed then I am actually pretty neutral.

    I think it is a little bit biased to say that Escort kills population.
    But Escort indeed doesn’t offer the best gameplay experience.
     
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  12. =PVCS) Cpatton

    =PVCS) Cpatton Member

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    Against

    -removing escort

    For

    -reomving escort from rotation, but keeping it to be nominated.


    I'm fine with it showing up less. I still want to play it.
     
  13. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    for

    its 60 minutes of close quarters combat that drains everyone's will to play afterward
     
  14. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    About 10% chance if you are on NF to witness some of the best empires teamwork.
    About 90% chance if you are on BE to get some no-pressure w+m1 action if you're into it
    100% of getting bored out of your mind in spec.

    Take that as you will.
     
  15. Sgt.Security

    Sgt.Security Member

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    To be fair, maximum 50 mins and that's when NF win.
    I'd say the expectation is around 35 mins.
     
  16. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Even bored enough to try to teach the bot to make fascist comments...
     
  17. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    0/5 worst poll ever. No actual poll attached for a poll discussion.
     
  18. 101010

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    Yeah let's blame this map..

    The same people who complain about Escort are the same ones who sit in spec not playing when a normal map is on. People who play map after map like maps like escort to kind of change things up a little.

    The map is liked so it gets voted. There are many issues with the map so one idea would be to remake the map. It's been a while since it was redone. Or replace it with NF Escort. It was way better.
     
  19. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    I will never make a poll thread using an actual poll.
     
  20. vipervicki

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    against removing it.
    Majority of players must like it since it wins the vote so many times.
    Rarely if ever gets RTVed
    It seems most players in the server actually play it instead of sitting in spec
    If people didn't like it they would leave during the map not after it, and that rarely happens.
     

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