Balancing Commander Maps on my Server

I am trying to work out the best configuration for most maps including balance for the tickets, starting resources, total amount of resources generated by the refineries and limits of buildings.

In order to do that I need to know what each map has in order to compare them. So here is the spreadsheet with all the maps I have on my server and their different parameters.

More importantly on my server I have disabled "emp_sv_player_refinery_multiplier" (by setting it to 65) which is the server variable responsible for scaling the resources with the amount of players, 1 increment and your refineries are x2, 2 and they're x3 etc.
Which means I'm going to need feedback on what maps need more resources, or even what maps need less resources.
Taking the example of high player count maps such as chain, I will most likely set the refinery multiplier to 2 so each refinery generates 2 resources per second instead of 1. If this were left to the scaling (default: 12 players) and with my min/max players counts being 32 to 64 they would generate anywhere between 2 and 5. Which is way to much variation for my liking.

Furthermore, I also removed the wages.
Let's remember that the intention behind the wages is the same as many "recently" implemented features, which is to give the losing team a chance to come back (why?). But anyone with half a brain could figure out that, if they're the losing team they generate much less points than the winning team, believe it or not that's usually how it goes, and therefore the winning team is still ahead.
This makes wages nothing more than just extra resources that the commander does not have control over which is fairly frustrating for anyone that remembers the days before the wages.

Changed recycling to give 1 point every 100 unit instead of 150. Because it's nowhere near the fastest way to make points anyhow.

For all the future release of my server's config go here.

 

very nice and actually really helpful thanks x

 

Never the less I still don't think wages have their place in Empires.

 

I Thought wages was so non idiots could get in tanks before idiots when money is low

wages can have their place if you lower the normal res income.

 

And then you have a team with no resources and a commander that shouts at people with 1k wages to build a tank so someone else can drive it. No, just no.

 

sure, what ever floats your boat

lets have more tanks on the field driven by idiots. greeaaatt

 

All I can suggest you is to decrease vehicle limit on chokepoint maps and res output, it's the war of attrition anyway and making it more newb-resistant for both sides would be pretty nice.

 

Make sure no comm map has 350+ tickets and we are good to go.

 

I really like the changes Mrx has made to the server it forces you to play better because of the lack of wages and vehicle limit being much lower plus the fact that the refs don't give an insane amount of res.

 

thank you for disabling that multiplier

i've said this in another topic where i asked for a base rate for having 1 refinary, but the game isnt that fun unless both teams have around 4-5 res a second. raising each map's res so it gets to this amount would work but it doesnt take into account the losing team which just sits in their base with their 1 res/second ref not being able to get out
(as an aside, i hate that the devs pretty much ignored my suggestion instead of just explaining why they didnt like it. so much more insulting than just saying you disagree. and that goes for anyone else who ignored it too)

 

dont like the no wages part, even 5-10 wages would be fine. I just want to be able to afford a tank when we have no money. Like you play super well the entire game, and you wanna drive a tank to make a difference but you cant cause idiots are kamikazying them into the enemy team.
Makes no sense that someone that played super well cant get into a tank.

 

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Added a (probably incomplete) changelog.

 

Changed Vehicle carcasses recycling to give 1 point per 100 (from 150). (empires\scripts\rankpoints.txt) //Because it's nowhere near the fastest way to make points anyway.

why?!? you can get dozens of points now by recycling a heavy tank, literally max 10 points/tank
and it takes just whole calc