we also have to see the fact that people just spend time on this forum bitching instead of getting in game and playing. I don't blame EVERYONE but I blame a lot of people. How is it that there are an average 80 unique players per day, but the current statistic for active forum members is at 227(lolz it looks like 2.27). That is some crazy shit, if you don't play the real game, the rest of those people should be testing the svn/RC versions or gtfo. If everyone got off their asses and either played the game itself, or tested the upcoming patches before release, we probably wouldn't have this problem here. People probably would've voiced their opinions about the minimap, about plasma, about targets, and things like the scout hide minimap bug would probably have been noticed. If you don't want to read it, here it is in a sentence: Play the game, test the upcoming version, develop the game, or just leave, the door is right there. I would rather wait an extra month for a final release than for a release client that has mechanics that haven't been fully tested. on a slightly unrelated note, when are the RC steamworks thing being put out again? I think we should get back to getting testing servers as quick as possible but I am quite oblivious to anything related to testing, so correct me if there is testing currently active.