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    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:10 AM - Avatarix: and i was told not to talk about dev secrets...
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:11 AM - Avatarix: also that video you Trump posted is pure sex, post more videos pls
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM - Ranger: Make Invasion Mod lul
    Apr 3, 2017 at 12:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jekotian invasion. Doable already but in a very alpha state
    Apr 3, 2017 at 1:23 PM - Ranger: I liked the heavy apc idea :( double hemg and 4 passengers or some shiiet
    Apr 3, 2017 at 1:45 PM - Avatarix: i prefer mine layer and also kamikaze apc
    Apr 3, 2017 at 2:09 PM - Ranger: KAMIKRAZEE
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Kidpaler: I was playing gta v last night and i had an extrm
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Kidpaler: Extreme amount of fun throwinf stickies on the front of my car and blowing this one guy up. Best time in gta in a long time.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Kidpaler: On mobile. That was all suppose to be one message.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: please tell me you were screaming DEPORTED with each explosion
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Kidpaler: No. The guy made me mad because he beat me in a 1v1 because he killed me once then got in a sports car and just ran so I couldn't catch up to him and compete with him. So I called in my buddies and it was around a 4v3 in the downtown. It must have gotten bad because were the only ones left on the server
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: im still disappointed
    Apr 3, 2017 at 4:58 PM - vipervicki: its nice seeing a bunch of people playing empires on a monday morning, its rare
    Apr 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Kidpaler: Define a bunch?
    Apr 3, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Vdragon: 'morning'
    Apr 3, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Vdragon: > 'muricans
    Apr 3, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Avatarix: cuddles
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:23 PM - Xyaminou: Server is back in one piece.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:23 PM - Xyaminou: but more importantly, I'm not cold anymore.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: does this mean we can do dnd
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the plot is about to advance yaknow
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:33 PM - Xyaminou: I think the real question is, do I really want to continue that campaign?
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:35 PM - Xyaminou: hmmm I can't access my server through my network with the smartphone serving as an external wifi card, that's annoying.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:51 PM - vipervicki: was 18 when I psoted that dt now 29
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, up to you
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Xyaminou: what no one's saying is the amount of spectator
    Apr 3, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Xyaminou: 12
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: next dnd is going to be short so that we wrap up the story arc and end at a spot where everyone can decide
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and then carry on some other time
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Xyaminou: Right if it's just wrapping up, that's fine.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Xyaminou: connect your steam
    Apr 3, 2017 at 10:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: actually it might be a good idea to do a thursday sesh again since it's supposed to be short
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Xyaminou: cool, let's test it.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: only problem is I already use !votetime to set commander vote time, guess I'll change it for testing. However I believe people have gotten used to !addtime from NUBS might be a better name for the command.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: however (again) one problem with that is that it conflicts with Scardybob's PUG Plugin !addtime.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Mikleo: thats what it does it sets commander vote time
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Mikleo: same thing
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: well no, yours compensate.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Mikleo: but also you can do it before the round begins
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: my !votetime just does "emp_sv_vote_commander_time X"
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Mikleo: yea
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Mikleo: thats dumb
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: well it all I could do with just chat triggers, I didn't code anything.
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Mikleo: it records the time the comm vote started and compensates for it
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i gotta do empires things soon....like, tomorrow levels of soon
    Apr 3, 2017 at 11:59 PM - Xyaminou: try soonTM
    Apr 4, 2017 at 12:02 AM - Xyaminou: Updated config and asked a question.
    Apr 4, 2017 at 12:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that reminded me i should ASK THE FORUM COMMUNITY TO SHOW I COMMUNICATE but that will have to wait too
    Apr 4, 2017 at 12:19 AM - Xyaminou: in other news my PC's audio and possibly more randomly freezes for half a second from time to time
    Apr 4, 2017 at 12:20 AM - Xyaminou: the most likely cause is the smartphone external wifi card.
    Apr 4, 2017 at 4:52 AM - Spike: make scout good <3
     
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    Apr 4, 2017 12:26 PM - Xyaminou: random question for the devs who read this chat: is the vehicle cooling (heat dissipation) a float or an int (does it support decimals)?
    Apr 4, 2017 12:27 PM - Xyaminou: Trying to determine if the skill vehicle cooling works properly or not. 'cause if it's an int it might not have any effect for some engines in some states.
    Apr 4, 2017 1:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i found inspiration for dnd buried deep in my past
    Apr 4, 2017 2:01 PM - Thexa4: @X: it's a float
    Apr 4, 2017 3:17 PM - Xyaminou: I've got a good news and a bad news
    Apr 4, 2017 3:18 PM - Xyaminou: none of which affect any of you guys
    Apr 4, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: good news is, now that I've applied thermal paste (at last) my CPU is between 40 and 60°C
    Apr 4, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: FUCK YEAH!
    Apr 4, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: (from 100+°C)
    Apr 4, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: bad news, I bought a network adapter and the PC doesn't recognize it, like the integrated one.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:19 PM - Xyaminou: probably gonna have to reinstall windows
    Apr 4, 2017 3:20 PM - Xyaminou: which arguably could turn out to be a good news because that'd mean my motherboard integrated network adapter isn't actually broken.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:22 PM - Xyaminou: and I know you guys probably don't care, but the reason I'm saying this second part is, any other theories?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:23 PM - vipervicki: hdd dieing?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:24 PM - vipervicki: from when you mentioned the freezing up etc
    Apr 4, 2017 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: Oh yeah, I forgot to add, the "freezing" was actually all caused by my headset acting like it's being unplugged and replugged.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: I still have no idea why it does that, I switched jack to the back instead of front and it got even worse.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: I finally used the adapter for jacks to USB and now it doesn't.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: still weird.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - vipervicki: k
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: but nah my windows is on SSD and it works fine.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:26 PM - vipervicki: did u do a system repair/fix?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:27 PM - vipervicki: see if it finds any errors or corruption
    Apr 4, 2017 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: no and I'm not going to. Windows is absolutely terrible at fixing itself it'd break everything.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: I'd take me less time to reinstall windows entirely than to repair, hope that it works and then fix everything that it broke.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:28 PM - vipervicki: k
    Apr 4, 2017 3:28 PM - vipervicki: u can check in service magr and see what errors you are gtting
    Apr 4, 2017 3:28 PM - vipervicki: might give you a clue
    Apr 4, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: service magr?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:30 PM - vipervicki: yeah wich windows u have?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:30 PM - vipervicki: 8 , 10?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: 7
    Apr 4, 2017 3:31 PM - vipervicki: k
    Apr 4, 2017 3:31 PM - vipervicki: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/open-windows-services
    Apr 4, 2017 3:33 PM - vipervicki: hmm wait wrong link
    Apr 4, 2017 3:33 PM - vipervicki: im half asleep i mean event log
    Apr 4, 2017 3:34 PM - vipervicki: been up all night hubby went to hosptial
    Apr 4, 2017 3:34 PM - vipervicki: heres to find event log
    Apr 4, 2017 3:34 PM - vipervicki: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms166507(v=sql.90).aspx
    Apr 4, 2017 3:34 PM - vipervicki: ll show u erros
    Apr 4, 2017 3:45 PM - Neoony: maybe a good chance to go win 8.1 :P
    Apr 4, 2017 3:45 PM - Neoony: especially if u are on ssd
    Apr 4, 2017 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: why would I want windows 8.1?
    Apr 4, 2017 3:48 PM - Neoony: better ssd support
    Apr 4, 2017 3:49 PM - Neoony: at least 10% better performance compared to win 7
    Apr 4, 2017 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: hmm
    Apr 4, 2017 3:49 PM - Neoony: much cleaner...less(no) need for any cleaning/optimization softwares
    Apr 4, 2017 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: but it's windows 8, I can't say it'd be worth the trouble.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:50 PM - Neoony: its win 8.1 :P
    Apr 4, 2017 3:50 PM - Neoony: just do classic shell and its the same shit but better than win 7
    Apr 4, 2017 3:52 PM - Neoony: Its actually pretty damn good win if you forget about the metro thing or charms or whatever they call it
    Apr 4, 2017 3:53 PM - Xyaminou: okay but more importantly, I'd have to find a copy and a crack, so, meh.
    Apr 4, 2017 3:53 PM - Neoony: i can find u
    Apr 4, 2017 3:54 PM - Neoony: easy one clicks :P
    Apr 4, 2017 3:54 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Apr 4, 2017 4:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wiring might be faulty? jacks suck
    Apr 4, 2017 4:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, never had a problem with system restore the few times i had to use it (for what that's worth)
    Apr 4, 2017 4:05 PM - Neoony: never used that....yet I keep fixing win problems xD
    Apr 4, 2017 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: Anyway, in more related Empires news, modified some more stuff on my server, needs some testing. Would be nice if we could play on it tonigh.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:11 PM - Xyaminou: I raised all the limits so they can never been reached. The idea is, if you have resources available to place something you should be able to.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: If you really think placing a 100 turrets would win you the game then you should be able to place them.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: If games are good it shouldn't change anything because spending too much of any type of building would probably cost you the game.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: The only thing the limit did is make it so on large maps certain bases are better defended than others. Which is stupid, if you have money to invest you should be able to protect all your base equally.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: And not run out of turrets in the middle of the process.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: Now the wall limit I could understand, before, when walls were too strong. But now with Security's change, wall spam is no longer a problem.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:23 PM - Thexa4: X: you can run into entity limit issues on certain maps if you don't limit walls, they're pretty entity hungry
    Apr 4, 2017 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I guess there's that, but hey that's why we need to test it, right?
    Apr 4, 2017 4:26 PM - Thexa4: ok :)
    Apr 4, 2017 4:35 PM - Ranger: X now it's time to put the turrents on buildings again.
    Apr 4, 2017 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 4, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: If it were an actual game mechanism I wouldn't say, but the "feature" was derpy as fuck.
    Apr 4, 2017 7:07 PM - Xyaminou: another day of Empires ruined by NUBS 2.0
    Apr 4, 2017 7:10 PM - Avatarix: someone doesnt like district ;)
    Apr 4, 2017 8:03 PM - Xyaminou: another day of Empires ruined by VIPER 3.0
    Apr 4, 2017 8:56 PM - vipervicki: cmere Mr X ima give you a cookie
    Apr 4, 2017 9:19 PM - Paradox: i honestly wonder why you and creeper seed but never play
    Apr 4, 2017 9:20 PM - Paradox: its like you sit in your server, people join and you keep sitting in your server all night without doing anything lol
    Apr 4, 2017 9:20 PM - Paradox: makes my mind boggle
    Apr 4, 2017 9:24 PM - vipervicki: not that I owe you or anyone an explanation but i jsut finished playing cyclopean and i only play maps I like PLUS I have a hectic life especially now with a new puppy and my husband is having 2 surgeries been making alot of phoens calls and on any given day I am busy doing several things besides being in server.
    Apr 4, 2017 9:25 PM - Paradox: You dont owe me an explanation, but I dont understand why you are just sitting in the server
    Apr 4, 2017 9:25 PM - vipervicki: wht bobbles my mind is why you are so interested in what I do or dont do, it has nothing to do with you in any way shape or form
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - vipervicki: boggles*
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - Paradox: if you wanna play you play, but you and creeper are just sitting in the server like theres 20 people playing and I just see you 2 sitting
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - Paradox: in unassigned litterally all night
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - Paradox: I get that you want to seed, but after the seeding is over you guys still just sit there and not do anything
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - vipervicki: your time is spent better doing other thigns other than concerning yourself with what I do or why I do or how or when ..
    Apr 4, 2017 9:26 PM - Paradox: I dont get what the point is, just seems like a waste of energy and time
    Apr 4, 2017 9:27 PM - Paradox: I like to wonder
    Apr 4, 2017 9:27 PM - vipervicki: u didnt wonder you asked
    Apr 4, 2017 9:27 PM - vipervicki: u people are so hyptrocritical
    Apr 4, 2017 9:27 PM - Paradox: its easyer to ask you than to hypothesize
    Apr 4, 2017 9:27 PM - Paradox: whats so conflicting about wondering and then asking
    Apr 4, 2017 9:28 PM - vipervicki: u sit in shoutbox thinking of ways to get more players but some run off new servers or harrass poeple in other servers then wonder why no new players stay
    Apr 4, 2017 9:28 PM - Paradox: How is that hypocritical? I always seed in the weekend because after Im done seeding I Can play those saturdays and sundays
    Apr 4, 2017 9:28 PM - Paradox: Im not seeding to have people on my server and then just sit there all night never playing a single round, especially creeper
    Apr 4, 2017 9:28 PM - Paradox: no players stay? did u not see every weekend the last 2 months? lol
    Apr 4, 2017 9:28 PM - vipervicki: i wa sin lizards server when x spike and pya were trying to ruin the game
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - Paradox: spike xya and pya have nothing to do with memehouse
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - Paradox: except mr x hes a mod there
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - vipervicki: spamming connect spamming tean swtiching greieifng
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - Paradox: how does that have anything to do with memehouse
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - vipervicki: then people running off the new uk server
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - vipervicki: by mocking them about their set cause it was different
    Apr 4, 2017 9:29 PM - Paradox: still has nothing to do with memehouse
    Apr 4, 2017 9:30 PM - Paradox: you are just venting to vent, im going to continue studying
    Apr 4, 2017 9:30 PM - vipervicki: jsut get over yourself the only readon u had people this weekdn is becasue we did nothing with esb for a week or 2
    Apr 4, 2017 9:30 PM - vipervicki: stop competting and being so jealous
    Apr 4, 2017 9:30 PM - vipervicki: enjoy your studying
    Apr 4, 2017 9:58 PM - Paradox: Im not jealous at all of you, you can have the weekdays of empires. I just seed intensively on the weekends because i wannna play on the server I have admin on. Thats why every weekend I am on it has been on memehouse.
    Apr 4, 2017 9:58 PM - A-z-K: jesus
    Apr 4, 2017 9:58 PM - Xyaminou: Today's release is up.
    Apr 4, 2017 9:58 PM - A-z-K: seeders gonna seed
    Apr 4, 2017 9:58 PM - Paradox: I dont know how you made this conversation so dramatic all of a sudden, I was just wondering why you seed and not play, Didnt make sense to me.
    Apr 4, 2017 10:00 PM - Xyaminou: Vicki creates drama everywhere
    Apr 4, 2017 10:00 PM - A-z-K: to be fair asking someone why they bother doing something is kin to telling them to stop doing it
    Apr 4, 2017 10:01 PM - A-z-K: when yo
    Apr 4, 2017 10:01 PM - A-z-K: ask "why bother" you are saying it is pointless
    Apr 4, 2017 10:01 PM - A-z-K: you could just say nothing
    Apr 4, 2017 10:02 PM - Xyaminou: so? he's not allowed to tell someone to stop doing something?
    Apr 4, 2017 10:03 PM - A-z-K: not if you are then going to follow up and pretend you were not having a dig and then when someone takes it as an insult you gonna say ooooo you are sooo dramatic
    Apr 4, 2017 10:03 PM - A-z-K: but also sure you can say whatever you want, you just sshouldnt
    Apr 4, 2017 10:04 PM - A-z-K: you guys should stop seeding too, nobody should seed, why bother doing anything
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - A-z-K: And now im going to take my own advice and go play something else
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Paradox: Im saying how bother because it doenst make sense to me
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Xyaminou: I only seed because some of the servers are not properly setup and do not have admins
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Paradox: and thats why Im wondering about it
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Xyaminou: if all servers were properly managed and setup I wouldn't care
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Paradox: thats why I Asked
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - A-z-K: Paradox, come on man
    Apr 4, 2017 10:05 PM - Xyaminou: for example I don't care if we play on Jekotian, Wired's or mine.
    Apr 4, 2017 10:06 PM - Xyaminou: makes 0 difference to me, because they all have admins and proper plugins.
    Apr 4, 2017 10:06 PM - A-z-K: dont bullshit a bullshitter, you arent nearly that socially inept
    Apr 4, 2017 10:06 PM - Paradox: im being serious though
    Apr 4, 2017 10:06 PM - Paradox: It doesnt make sense to me why you would seed and not play
    Apr 4, 2017 10:06 PM - Paradox: thats why I asked
    Apr 4, 2017 10:07 PM - A-z-K: indeed it is a mystery. One of the big question of our generation
    Apr 4, 2017 10:20 PM - vipervicki: LOl @ X like hes the final word on whats proper or not like him trying to crash lizzys server and spamming client commands..becasue its jsut not up to his standards, disugsting what you did to him game with 25 people trying to ruin it.and Im sure security is right people like you stay in empires becasue anywhere else youd be banned for your behavior
    Apr 4, 2017 10:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why bother staying unassigned in empires?
    Apr 4, 2017 10:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why bother sitting in teamspeak idling?
    Apr 4, 2017 10:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why bother leaving discord running in the background and not partaking in any chat?
    Apr 4, 2017 10:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why bother keeping steam on when doing life-related things?
    Apr 4, 2017 10:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the answer is approximately the same
    Apr 4, 2017 10:31 PM - Paradox: i dont do none of that except maybe steam, and steam is so people can contact me about stuff
    Apr 4, 2017 10:31 PM - Paradox: so I still wonder
    Apr 4, 2017 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay mental exercise: look past yourself, and think about why people do those things
    Apr 4, 2017 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: something something empathy
    Apr 4, 2017 10:36 PM - Paradox: destroyer please, because I dont know Im ltiterally asking why
    Apr 4, 2017 10:36 PM - Paradox: if I knew, I wouldnt fucking ask
    Apr 4, 2017 10:36 PM - Paradox: also thats not empathy, thats reflexivity
    Apr 4, 2017 10:37 PM - Paradox: english has a different meaning for reflexivity seemingly
    Apr 4, 2017 10:44 PM - Ranger: When someone seeds, they either go afk or play another game. It's no big deal.
    Apr 4, 2017 10:46 PM - Paradox: ranger please stfu, you always comment without getting what we are talking about
    Apr 4, 2017 10:47 PM - Ranger: True I only read 2 lines
    Apr 4, 2017 10:47 PM - Paradox: your ineptitude is triggering me
    Apr 4, 2017 10:47 PM - Ranger: release the kraken
    Apr 4, 2017 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: first map played on my server, good game. enough said.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: knowledge corner time for those who like me are learning new things
    Apr 4, 2017 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
    Apr 4, 2017 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexivity_(social_theory)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (i still think empathy is the right word here)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: anyway, to cut this shitshow short, basically people want to be right there when they decide they want to participate in activities related to the place they're idling in
    Apr 4, 2017 11:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: for example, gosh gee whizz i just spent 6 hours taking care of taxes, now let's play empires, oh look it's all ready to go at a moment's notice
    Apr 4, 2017 11:18 PM - Sgt.Security: Come on Paradox, I am not taking sides but we all know it's not Vicki's energy and time that you care about. You tried to deliver the point that "seeding while not playing is unethical or something." I am not saying that's right or wrong, but I feel that's what you are trying to say.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:19 PM - Sgt.Security: Am I being over-anticipating?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:20 PM - Paradox: unethical? I was litterally just asking what the point was of seeding and not playing
    Apr 4, 2017 11:21 PM - Paradox: cause I dont understand why you would
    Apr 4, 2017 11:21 PM - Thexa4: marketing :)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:21 PM - Paradox: I still dont cause noone gave me a proper answer yet
    Apr 4, 2017 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: To avoid using my thread to debate: D, the point is if someone wants to fuck your shit up, they can do it. Dropping 1000 walls isn't really the fastest or easiest way or doing that and I have admins, so it's fine.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:21 PM - Paradox: also destroyer empathy and reflexivity have different definitions in english and dutch seemingly
    Apr 4, 2017 11:22 PM - Sgt.Security: Erm, here's an example, based on true story. Do you know why I keep visual studio on 24/7, even though I only spend like an hour every day doing actual coding?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:22 PM - Paradox: empathy is feelings based, and reflexivity is situation based in the dutch language
    Apr 4, 2017 11:23 PM - Paradox: Not a good analogy security
    Apr 4, 2017 11:23 PM - Sgt.Security: Because I want to do it whenever I feel like it.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:23 PM - Paradox: its like saying why do I have a car laying around when I only drive it for 30 minutes everyday
    Apr 4, 2017 11:23 PM - Paradox: Is not at all similar to seeding and not playing
    Apr 4, 2017 11:23 PM - Sgt.Security: How so? When you leave the game on, you are an alt+tab away from playing.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:24 PM - Sgt.Security: Same as leaving visual studio on.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm not even touching the car analogy, but having visual studio running is extremely similar
    Apr 4, 2017 11:24 PM - Paradox: Its not at all
    Apr 4, 2017 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have a program hogging computer resources to itself that isn't doing anything useful, just running there, waiting for you to use it
    Apr 4, 2017 11:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and then the moment you want to use it, you use it without goign through the startup procedure
    Apr 4, 2017 11:25 PM - Paradox: I wont be able to convince you, but you 2 can keep circle jerking each other if you like.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ad hominem when losing a discussion?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:27 PM - Paradox: Its not ad hominem
    Apr 4, 2017 11:27 PM - Paradox: and its not a discussion
    Apr 4, 2017 11:28 PM - Paradox: its an oppinion you cant really defend based on anything objective
    Apr 4, 2017 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: @Xya it wouldn't be a thousand walls, it'd be some obscene amount of buildables strewn across the map; but as you said yourself in the thread, needs experimenting - to see if it'll cause any problems
    Apr 4, 2017 11:28 PM - Smithy: Dropping a bunch of walls then recycling them all at once used to be the issue
    Apr 4, 2017 11:28 PM - Paradox: its an oppinion you cant really defend based on anything objective
    Apr 4, 2017 11:29 PM - Paradox: if I wanted to do an ad hominem Id tell you you're a fucking idiot
    Apr 4, 2017 11:29 PM - Paradox: Its not like I hold back with insulting people
    Apr 4, 2017 11:30 PM - Paradox: You and security just circlejerk each other all the time
    Apr 4, 2017 11:30 PM - Sgt.Security: I hate to say this but it's kinda your standard trick saying "It's a fucking awful analogy" but then continue with.....no explanation, it's just an awful analogy because you said so. I've seen this like 10 times already. I mean it gets old, really.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:30 PM - Paradox: my explanation was another analogy
    Apr 4, 2017 11:30 PM - Paradox: with the car
    Apr 4, 2017 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so wait circlejerking is now not offensive just because there are more offensive things to say?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - Paradox: Circle jerking isnt really offensive is it now? It just means you and security constantly agree with each other, atleast in my eyes it means that
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: i thought circlejerking is a sport
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - Paradox: like I would constantly circlejerk with complete
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - Paradox: he ma homie and I got his back
    Apr 4, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: uhm the think with your homies back, thats not jerking ;)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:32 PM - Paradox: Paradox 8 minutes ago - Paradox: its like saying why do I have a car laying around when I only drive it for 30 minutes everyday Paradox 7 minutes ago - Paradox: Is not at all similar to seeding and not playing
    Apr 4, 2017 11:32 PM - Paradox: figure of speech flasche, althought Id jerk complete off if he really needed to
    Apr 4, 2017 11:32 PM - Paradox: I got his back... and his front ;)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:32 PM - Sgt.Security: But you are not using my analogy saying it's a bad analogy, you use your own analogy saying it's a bad analogy (and even so your analogy is not really a bad analogy for the case)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:32 PM - Sgt.Security: That's tricky to say, but anyway.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:33 PM - Paradox: huh what
    Apr 4, 2017 11:33 PM - Paradox: Im not following
    Apr 4, 2017 11:33 PM - Paradox: Im saying A doesnt equal to b whilst b does equal to c
    Apr 4, 2017 11:33 PM - Paradox: and thats why b does not equal to a
    Apr 4, 2017 11:33 PM - Sgt.Security: I gave you my visual studio example which is probably the closest analogy you caan come up with. You jumped to your car analogy and call that a bad analogy.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: holy shit how is that the same
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: seeding is the act of attracting people to your server
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm just getting frustrated with this, i'll go back to the ad hominem "lite" and leave before this spirals completely out of control
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: why would you seed, wanting to attract people to your server
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: good night
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: and not play with the people you have attracted
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - flasche: noes
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: and just continue to sit there
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - Paradox: How is that at all the same as having visual basics on
    Apr 4, 2017 11:34 PM - flasche: nite destroyer :(
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - Paradox: having visual basics on
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - Sgt.Security: I do from time to time just leave the game on and just go to sleep. The idea is simple " we leave something on just so we can do it at anytime we want".
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - Paradox: is having epmires open so you can connect to a server faster to play
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - Sgt.Security: I am not sure about Vicki but that's the case for me.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - flasche: i even turn my computer off when i just go to the supermarket for 30mins
    Apr 4, 2017 11:35 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah 'cause, you know, Empires takes so long to launch.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:36 PM - Paradox: thats why your analogy is shit
    Apr 4, 2017 11:36 PM - Paradox: your analogy is A->B, the seeding thing isnt A-> B
    Apr 4, 2017 11:36 PM - Sgt.Security: Have you wondered if they are both essentially the same?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:36 PM - Paradox: the seeding is A->B so you can have a C but then go back to being A
    Apr 4, 2017 11:36 PM - Sgt.Security: Again, not saying this is the case for Vicki, but what if I want to seed and want to play ASAP at anytime I want?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - flasche: you wot?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - Paradox: then thats not the scenario vicki/creeper is fucking in
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - flasche: A -> B
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - Paradox: thats why its a shit analogy
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: are we doing maths now?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: AB² + AC² = BC²?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - flasche: i was wondering if thats meant as A implies B
    Apr 4, 2017 11:37 PM - Ranger: tits
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: ranger has it right
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - Paradox: They both seed ( afk ) then when people play the game they keep being afk till people leave and are still afk
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - Paradox: I havent seen creeper play a game for the last 3 months
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: that doesnt mean he has not played in the last 3 months
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: not taking a position here
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: just saying
    Apr 4, 2017 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: I'd take that bet Flasche
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Paradox: I can almost guarantee you, creeper hasnt played a full game of empires in the last 3 months
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Sgt.Security: I've had people telling me that he hasn't seen me playing Gren for 10 years, do you think that's possible?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Ranger: so wot
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Paradox: holy shit again with the shity comparisons
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: Yes.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - flasche: :P
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Paradox: like is your ability to comparise and make analogies actually that fucking bad
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - flasche: you asked for that yes security
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Paradox: Im not even sure if you are trolling
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: Come on paradox this one wasn't nearly as bad as the last one.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:39 PM - Paradox: cause your comparison was that fucking horrific
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Sgt.Security: Again, it's shit analogy because you said so. "It's just what you see" "It's not all that has happened."
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Paradox: holy shit security
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: Common sense
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Paradox: how does me saying creeper hasnt played a game of empires in 3 months
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - flasche: why we fight?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Paradox: have anything to do with some people saying you havent played gren in 10 years
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Paradox: holy fucknig shit those 2 have 0 in common
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - flasche: but everyone knows security only plays rifleman
    Apr 4, 2017 11:40 PM - Paradox: except thats its about people saying stuff about other people
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - Paradox: would you believe me if I said xya hasnt spoken a word of chinese in the last 30 years
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - Paradox: me saying that completely disproves creeper not playing a game in 3 months
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - Paradox: thats what you basicly tried to do
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - Paradox: fuck man, asians are suppose to be smart
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: now your analogies are bad
    Apr 4, 2017 11:41 PM - Paradox: you are such a dissapointment to the race
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - flasche: unless xya speaks chinese
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: I'm only 25
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Paradox: im making a bad analogy to make the point that he makes bad analogies
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - flasche: and that
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: also I said "sifu"
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Paradox: I KNOW YOU ARE ONLY IN YOUR 20S HOLY SHIT
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: which is chinese
    Apr 4, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: probably the only chinese word I know.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: I know you are Paradox, just saying.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:43 PM - Paradox: Security and destroyer are both fucking idiots. Thats an ad hominem. Also you guys circle each other constantly. <- not an ad hominem
    Apr 4, 2017 11:44 PM - Ranger: i ate thai today. i liked the spicy rice thing, but the noodes were bad. too sweet + egg and pork. springrolls gud
    Apr 4, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: neither of those are arguments
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: they both dont concern the matter
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - Paradox: flasche my god
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - Paradox: I thought you were suppose to be smart
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: i know im a god
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: praise me
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - Paradox: Im not making arguments, im litterally saying they are fucking idiots and they circle jerk each other
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: im just fed up by all the shitflinging
    Apr 4, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: like literally
    Apr 4, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: pissed
    Apr 4, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: so i try to sabotage it
    Apr 4, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: by posting random shit
    Apr 4, 2017 11:46 PM - Paradox: People should just be smarter
    Apr 4, 2017 11:46 PM - Paradox: and it would happen less
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - Ranger: ur the one asking dumb things
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - flasche: questions with "why" indeed are dumb questions
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - Paradox: Lol
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - Paradox: what
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - flasche: why is the sky blue
    Apr 4, 2017 11:47 PM - Paradox: that doesnt make sense at all
    Apr 4, 2017 11:48 PM - Paradox: if people didnt ask why, you wouldnt have electricity
    Apr 4, 2017 11:48 PM - Ranger: triggered. take cover
    Apr 4, 2017 11:48 PM - flasche: no thats "how"
    Apr 4, 2017 11:48 PM - flasche: not "why"
    Apr 4, 2017 11:48 PM - Paradox: No thats not how, the how happens after the why
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: Why does this happen -> how does this work
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: that doesnt make the question less dumb
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: thats science
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: why has no answer
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: what
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: holy shit
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: Im out, my iq is dropping
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: every answer given to a question with why can be questioned by a why question again
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: I just feel it plummitting
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: didnt you play that game as kid?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:49 PM - Paradox: thats not a bad thing
    Apr 4, 2017 11:50 PM - Paradox: Thats only in the scenario of non scientific things
    Apr 4, 2017 11:50 PM - Paradox: Why isnt a bad question
    Apr 4, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: why?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: (aside of your original question wasnt of scientific nature)
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: Let me rephrase that
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: having a sense of wonder and perpetuating that with asking why in an honest fashion makes the question why good
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: also suck a dick flasche
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: why is legit
    Apr 4, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: dont be a why hater
    Apr 4, 2017 11:53 PM - Paradox:
    Apr 4, 2017 11:54 PM - Ranger: let us all pray together so that i may finish downloading this movie before dawn
    Apr 4, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: wait
    Apr 4, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: how is "why is the sky blue?" a stupid question?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:54 PM - flasche: what horrible music is that
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - flasche: answer it and i show you
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - Paradox: its future bass amazing
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - Paradox: probably the best one Ive heard in a while
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - Paradox: Ganz is legit as fuck
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - Xyaminou: Well I don't know the science behind it
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - Xyaminou: but longstory short, there's a reason.
    Apr 4, 2017 11:55 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 4, 2017 11:56 PM - Xyaminou: What the fuck is Paradox talking about?
    Apr 4, 2017 11:57 PM - flasche: bad music
    Apr 4, 2017 11:58 PM - flasche: also ranger, what shitty internet connection do you have if it takes you a whole night to download a movie
    Apr 4, 2017 11:59 PM - flasche: thats so 1990s
    Apr 4, 2017 11:59 PM - Ranger: its a bad torrent
    Apr 4, 2017 11:59 PM - flasche: what movie?
    Apr 5, 2017 12:00 AM - Ranger: just random one. one of the new ones
    Apr 5, 2017 12:01 AM - Ranger: the answer to why the sky is blue is easy u should know
    Apr 5, 2017 12:01 AM - flasche: rayleigh scattering
    Apr 5, 2017 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: what site are you using for torretns? the one I gave you?
    Apr 5, 2017 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: usually has plenty of seeds.
    Apr 5, 2017 12:04 AM - flasche: i still kinda want to know what movie lol
    Apr 5, 2017 12:04 AM - flasche: but its ok if oyu dont wnat to tell
    Apr 5, 2017 12:05 AM - Ranger: Monster Truck. It's kinda like Pete's Dragon
    Apr 5, 2017 12:05 AM - Ranger: On Popcorn Time
    Apr 5, 2017 12:05 AM - flasche: if its a movie from 2017 the quality is too shit for me to bear anyway
    Apr 5, 2017 12:05 AM - Ranger: It is
    Apr 5, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: wait there is a remake of petes dragon
    Apr 5, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: i
    Apr 5, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: need to see that
    Apr 5, 2017 12:07 AM - flasche: i was in love with that movie as kid
    Apr 5, 2017 12:09 AM - flasche: yarrr
    Apr 5, 2017 12:10 AM - Ranger: Yeah. It reminds me of Italy a bit. There's a amusement park in the north called Gardaland which has a green dragon as mascot
    Apr 5, 2017 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: it's not a screener if that's what you meant flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 12:13 AM - flasche: oh gardaland i think i was there as kid aswell
    Apr 5, 2017 12:14 AM - flasche: its not? for a 2017 movie wow
    Apr 5, 2017 12:16 AM - Xyaminou: it's not a 2017 movie
    Apr 5, 2017 12:19 AM - flasche: it indeed isnt
    Apr 5, 2017 12:19 AM - flasche: theres a torrent with 3.5k seeds on tpb
    Apr 5, 2017 12:21 AM - flasche: ranger said "it is" when i assumed it would be from 2017 because he said new movie
    Apr 5, 2017 12:22 AM - Ranger: thougth it was 2017 cause it popped up in popular movies only today. well 2016 aint that old
    Apr 5, 2017 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: TPB? old... new site is rarbg.to
    Apr 5, 2017 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: well, for movies and series anyway.
    Apr 5, 2017 12:25 AM - flasche: tbh the best site is google
    Apr 5, 2017 12:25 AM - flasche: ;)
     
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    Apr 5, 2017 8:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this thread is a way of thexa telling "hurry the fuck up" without opening his mouth
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: telling me*
    Apr 5, 2017 2:43 PM - Ranger: harry app
    Apr 5, 2017 2:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with what
    Apr 5, 2017 2:47 PM - Xyaminou: spelling?
    Apr 5, 2017 3:37 PM - Xyaminou: lol NUBS, so pathetic
    Apr 5, 2017 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: 3 players on my server, therefore they add 3 bots to theirs.
    Apr 5, 2017 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: in before Vicki comes here and be like: "oh no I'm just having fun listening to them"
    Apr 5, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: you should add 10 bots to the server
    Apr 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: I don't have the plugin and I don't really want to sink to that level.
    Apr 5, 2017 5:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nohp62v9mj66wuo/garageblooper.mp3?dl=0
    Apr 5, 2017 5:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: who's excited for NUCLEAR
    Apr 5, 2017 5:42 PM - Paradox: only you seemingly
    Apr 5, 2017 5:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: meh, forumgoing old men were never big on it
    Apr 5, 2017 5:59 PM - vipervicki: one of my fav maps its on esb atm
    Apr 5, 2017 6:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but i think even the old farts here can appreciate this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sz7i4awic2tk8gb/intro1_alpha.mp3?dl=0
    Apr 5, 2017 6:09 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: hullo?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:10 PM - vipervicki: hi
    Apr 5, 2017 6:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: hi, im somewhat new to this game, but i really enjoyed playing on it so far
    Apr 5, 2017 6:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im also new to forums in general too
    Apr 5, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: hi
    Apr 5, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: run as long as you still can
    Apr 5, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 5, 2017 6:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hi, you might get the impression that everyone is an asshole and they hate everyone, but if you don't get discouraged by that, you'll find that there's nice people here too
    Apr 5, 2017 6:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: speaking of nice, i promised a stream...
    Apr 5, 2017 6:18 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'll remember that. but i must say that the devs have really done a fantastic job with this mod, and all for free too
    Apr 5, 2017 6:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...but situation is changing rapidly as i'm downloading 20 gigabytes of party games
    Apr 5, 2017 6:19 PM - flasche: you can download alcohol?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:20 PM - flasche: ^^
    Apr 5, 2017 6:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gotta get those down first.
    Apr 5, 2017 6:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have alcohol in the fridge
    Apr 5, 2017 6:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: makes pizza boxes not want to fit
    Apr 5, 2017 6:20 PM - Thexa4: unpack them, can fit more that way
    Apr 5, 2017 6:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but the boxes also keep moisture pretty well, keeps the pizza fresher
    Apr 5, 2017 6:21 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: he has a point
    Apr 5, 2017 6:21 PM - flasche: moisture below freezing temperature?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: FRIDGE
    Apr 5, 2017 6:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fridge sits at 4 celsius
    Apr 5, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: oh
    Apr 5, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: dont they go into the other thing i cant recall the name atm
    Apr 5, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: freezer
    Apr 5, 2017 6:22 PM - Xyaminou: freezer
    Apr 5, 2017 6:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nawww it's fresh pizza from the pizzeria, i eat half of it one day and half the next
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no point in freezing it
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - flasche: but put the liqueur in the freezer
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i usually eat the whole pizza
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - Xyaminou: no point in "fridging" it either
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - Thexa4: works for vodka :)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - Xyaminou: yeah flasche has a point
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: look someone put the two open and half-empty bottles in the fridge 3 years ago
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - Xyaminou: alcohol doesn't freeze you can just put it in the freezer.
    Apr 5, 2017 6:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i only touch them to move them outo f the way of my pizza
    Apr 5, 2017 6:24 PM - Thexa4: and beer, given that you can remember to pull it out in time
    Apr 5, 2017 6:24 PM - Xyaminou: plenty of rooms.
    Apr 5, 2017 6:24 PM - Thexa4: or like cleaning yellow snow
    Apr 5, 2017 6:24 PM - flasche: eww frozen beer is the worst
    Apr 5, 2017 6:26 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: so are some you part of the dev team?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:26 PM - Thexa4: yea
    Apr 5, 2017 6:27 PM - Thexa4: this is relatively up to date: http://www.empiresmod.com/static-html/team.html
    Apr 5, 2017 6:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sort of
    Apr 5, 2017 6:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i actually printed out the paperwork to join the devteam, it's right here
    Apr 5, 2017 6:28 PM - Thexa4: make a picture with your phone, forward it and you're done :)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:28 PM - flasche: and dont forget to send in your dna sample
    Apr 5, 2017 6:28 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 5, 2017 6:28 PM - Thexa4: nah, we can fingerprint you with empires behavior already :)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (it's not signed)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:29 PM - flasche: you put pictures up? good im no dev, id only scare people away
    Apr 5, 2017 6:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: WELL if you're going to fingerprint by empires behaviour, at least i'll have a nice print
    Apr 5, 2017 6:29 PM - Thexa4: gitlab has pictures
    Apr 5, 2017 6:30 PM - Thexa4: https://git.empiresmod.com/
    Apr 5, 2017 6:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can say that flasche is actually an 8/10
    Apr 5, 2017 6:30 PM - flasche: you forgot a 1
    Apr 5, 2017 6:30 PM - flasche: 18/10
    Apr 5, 2017 6:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 18/10 is a little beyond the scale
    Apr 5, 2017 6:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but sure, i think i already said "flasche is a golden god" so that works for me
    Apr 5, 2017 6:31 PM - flasche: yes im a golden god
    Apr 5, 2017 6:31 PM - flasche: also thexa you need to sign in to see picdurrs
    Apr 5, 2017 6:32 PM - flasche: im buddha
    Apr 5, 2017 6:32 PM - flasche: or at least im working on it
    Apr 5, 2017 6:32 PM - Thexa4: feel free to sign up :)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:32 PM - Thexa4: then I can see your picture too
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: me?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - flasche: only if i add one
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - Thexa4: aw
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - flasche: i think i posted my passport picture once
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - Thexa4: @major, registration is open for everyone
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - flasche: its old tho when i still was a young and sexy flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM - Thexa4: not sure if it's useful for you though
    Apr 5, 2017 6:34 PM - flasche: i also was super wasted when i made it
    Apr 5, 2017 6:34 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 6:37 PM - Thexa4: welcome to the empires git :)
    Apr 5, 2017 6:38 PM - flasche: what is there on emp git
    Apr 5, 2017 6:38 PM - flasche: something that could be useful for me?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:39 PM - Thexa4: full history of the scripts
    Apr 5, 2017 6:39 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i think im gonna enjoy this place
    Apr 5, 2017 6:39 PM - Thexa4: and the ability to make changes and keep them in sync and propose them
    Apr 5, 2017 6:39 PM - Thexa4: sourcemod plugins
    Apr 5, 2017 6:40 PM - Thexa4: some other empires related projects
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - Thexa4: if we can open source something we generally do
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - Thexa4: and it appears there
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: cool
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - flasche: you lied there are no pictures
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - Xyaminou: ha!
    Apr 5, 2017 6:41 PM - flasche: :sadface:
    Apr 5, 2017 6:42 PM - Thexa4: I have a picture
    Apr 5, 2017 6:42 PM - flasche: i dont see one
    Apr 5, 2017 6:42 PM - Thexa4: https://git.empiresmod.com/thexa4
    Apr 5, 2017 6:42 PM - flasche: oh i first have to click it
    Apr 5, 2017 6:42 PM - vipervicki: buy a pizza screen thye are cheap and u can freeze pizza and use the screen to reheat and it coems out jsut like from a pizza oven
    Apr 5, 2017 6:43 PM - flasche: oh wow so formal
    Apr 5, 2017 6:43 PM - flasche: i will call you sir thexa from now on
    Apr 5, 2017 6:43 PM - Thexa4: ok
    Apr 5, 2017 6:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: so do ya get along each other?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:48 PM - flasche: depends on what it is about
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - flasche: and who it is about lol
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - vipervicki: usually no
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - vipervicki: on rare occassions yes
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - flasche: for example everyone hates the devs
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: why?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:50 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 5, 2017 6:51 PM - flasche: but then we love them
    Apr 5, 2017 6:51 PM - flasche: nah im just kidding
    Apr 5, 2017 6:52 PM - vipervicki: flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 6:52 PM - vipervicki: wanna see my new puppy?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:52 PM - flasche: thats me
    Apr 5, 2017 6:52 PM - flasche: its a beagle?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:52 PM - flasche: show
    Apr 5, 2017 6:53 PM - vipervicki: ah your not on steam ill show u later..yup a beagle
    Apr 5, 2017 6:53 PM - vipervicki: when your on steam
    Apr 5, 2017 6:53 PM - vipervicki: hes adorable
    Apr 5, 2017 6:54 PM - vipervicki: oh ill pm u the link
    Apr 5, 2017 6:55 PM - flasche: so cleve when did you find empires?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:55 PM - flasche: and how
    Apr 5, 2017 6:55 PM - vipervicki: sent
    Apr 5, 2017 6:56 PM - flasche: why do they always look so melancholic?
    Apr 5, 2017 6:56 PM - flasche: but yeh its cute
    Apr 5, 2017 6:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: actually yesterday
    Apr 5, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: its Gods joke thye are the happiest dogs constantly wagging tail and he fools you by their looks
    Apr 5, 2017 6:57 PM - vipervicki: for beagles every day is a party and everyhting is a toy
    Apr 5, 2017 6:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: sometimes i look at a steam curator to see what new source mods are out. and thats when i found you
    Apr 5, 2017 6:59 PM - flasche: i hope have you been lucky and found people to play with.
    Apr 5, 2017 6:59 PM - flasche: it can be a bit empty during the week - but theres almost always people on on the weekends
    Apr 5, 2017 7:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i found a 20+ server last night, lost, but still enjoyed it
    Apr 5, 2017 7:00 PM - Xyaminou: You haven't played Empires until you've played 25vs25
    Apr 5, 2017 7:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: sorry, i mean that i found a server with 20+ people on
    Apr 5, 2017 7:01 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that sounds awesome
    Apr 5, 2017 7:02 PM - flasche: it is indeed
    Apr 5, 2017 7:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: did take me a little bit to understand what was going on at first, but picked afterwards
    Apr 5, 2017 7:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: picked up afterwards*
    Apr 5, 2017 7:02 PM - flasche: yeah it can be overwhelming at first
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - Paradox: Everyone hates everyones else his guts and we get on each others throat everyday, but at the end of the day when you are playing a 25v25 it doesnt matter who you hate, everyone works together to win that fucking 90 minute game of escort
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: but i wouldn't know some stuff if i didnt check the wiki
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - Paradox: then the map afterwards everyone goes spectate and yells at eachother for underperforming and being shit
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - Paradox: Thats empires
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - flasche: sums it up pretty well lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: xD
    Apr 5, 2017 7:04 PM - Xyaminou: the pink writer has spoken
    Apr 5, 2017 7:05 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: but speaking of the wiki, i didn't know that rpgs could be guided until today
    Apr 5, 2017 7:05 PM - flasche: yeah some things are not overly obvious
    Apr 5, 2017 7:06 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: yeah, but i think i know how to play the game now
    Apr 5, 2017 7:06 PM - flasche: at least the basics
    Apr 5, 2017 7:07 PM - flasche: you sure have still much too learn
    Apr 5, 2017 7:07 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: yeah, but not enough to be commander yet. i'd probably just turn the cv into a boomtank
    Apr 5, 2017 7:07 PM - Xyaminou: How to play Empires: 1. listen to your commander 2. listen to your squad leader 3. communicate
    Apr 5, 2017 7:08 PM - flasche: 4. figure out who not to listen to
    Apr 5, 2017 7:08 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:08 PM - flasche: i didnt mean xya with that btw
    Apr 5, 2017 7:08 PM - Xyaminou: yeah this one is where most people have trouble.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:09 PM - Xyaminou: I should keep working on my commander spreadsheet
    Apr 5, 2017 7:09 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: commander spreadsheet?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - Xyaminou: well since we don't have a plugin to list commanders and their skills I'm just doing it manually
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh good idea
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - flasche: ohgod i dont want to know where i end up
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - Paradox: major cleve cutler, if u wanna get really good at the game. Just play engineer for like 2 weeks straight, focus on reviving and building walls for your teammates, then just learn from looking at other people
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - Xyaminou: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...9XP6JsDpTIxRvHsB7lQufiW_8/edit#gid=1382648584
    Apr 5, 2017 7:10 PM - Paradox: paying attention is the best tip
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - flasche: oh good im not on the list
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - Paradox: max matton looks bangable
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - Paradox: 8/10 would bang
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - Xyaminou: you're actually not in it 'cause I can't remember how you command.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - flasche: lol "Has been known to drive the CV into enemy main base for 'safety'"
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - Xyaminou: hard to remember everyone
    Apr 5, 2017 7:11 PM - Xyaminou: lol yeah.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - flasche: im a very conservative comm, but im responsive
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: holy shit xya
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: dude
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: my attack orders are so fucking on point
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: you hve no idea
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: I litterally almost micro manage players
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: during scrims
    Apr 5, 2017 7:12 PM - Paradox: how to atttack, where to attack from, where to take cover
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Paradox: is there a recording of the league like few months ago
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Paradox: i should have a 30/30
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Xyaminou: Paradox is triggered even if he has the highest score lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - flasche: is that rated from 1-5?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Xyaminou: nobody's perfect
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Xyaminou: yeah 6 categories rated 0 to 5
    Apr 5, 2017 7:13 PM - Paradox: dude, when I Take empires serious I like give so good attack orders
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Paradox: when captain boommander arises
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Paradox: its such high level micromanagement
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Xyaminou: althought 0 would be, like, a noob commander who never entered the comm interface
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Paradox: how can u even give me a 4 on that
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Xyaminou: everyone has 4
    Apr 5, 2017 7:14 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: jesus chirst you guys are funny as hell
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Paradox: btw I just found u on facebook
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Paradox: your name pops up in the google spreadsheet list
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: what?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - flasche: also why the fuck is google doc in french
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: whatever
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: I don't even use facebook
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - flasche: i didnt order that
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - Xyaminou: mine is in english
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:15 PM - flasche: wut
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Paradox: holy shit, mikleo gets a 5 for attack order?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Paradox: whilst i get a 4
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Paradox: how is that even possible
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - flasche: uuuuh someone is butthurt
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - flasche: you made an enemy xya
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Paradox: are you not giving me a 30 because you just dont want me to have 30
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: he has 5?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: meh nobody has 5
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Paradox: mikleo has 5 yes
    Apr 5, 2017 7:16 PM - Xyaminou: not anymore
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: guess you have to be accurate to at least one hammer unit with your orders
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Xyaminou: -1 to communication for paradox for being such a pain in the ass :p
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Xyaminou: lol yeah.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Paradox: its called motivational speech
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Xyaminou: Oh, oh.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:17 PM - Xyaminou: I forgot to list lawliet
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Xyaminou: let's make paradox mad
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Xyaminou: there
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Paradox: wow
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Paradox: 30 for lawliet
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Paradox: research
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Paradox: nice
    Apr 5, 2017 7:18 PM - Paradox: lawliet doesnt have 5/5 map awareness
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Paradox: nor does he have 5 for attack orders
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - flasche: triggered
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Xyaminou: :p
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Xyaminou: I knew it would make him react.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Paradox: might aswell give flasche a 30 if you are dicking around anyway
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Paradox: ima playing on vicki her server fuck u
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - flasche: i deserve 31 at least
    Apr 5, 2017 7:19 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: my god im drying in laughter
    Apr 5, 2017 7:20 PM - flasche: 31 in map awareness
    Apr 5, 2017 7:20 PM - flasche: i know maps
    Apr 5, 2017 7:20 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:20 PM - flasche: i can tell each maps name if i read it
    Apr 5, 2017 7:21 PM - Xyaminou: sweet.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:22 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i think this im gonna enjoy this game more knowing that you lot are running about around servers
    Apr 5, 2017 7:22 PM - flasche: <3
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Paradox: Theres a very large difference between the people going to the forums
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Paradox: and the people who play though
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Xyaminou: half of Empires players are insane
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Xyaminou: and the other half are trolls.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - flasche: thats us
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i believe that
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Paradox: can confirm, have worked at psych floor
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - flasche: the insane ones
    Apr 5, 2017 7:23 PM - Xyaminou: it's hard to distinguish which is what
    Apr 5, 2017 7:24 PM - flasche: i think my postcount proves im in the insane group
    Apr 5, 2017 7:24 PM - flasche: it cant be sane
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: are some of you from outside the united states?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - Xyaminou: only all of us
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - flasche: all of those you talked to
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - flasche: im austrian
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - Xyaminou: I'm antartican
    Apr 5, 2017 7:25 PM - Xyaminou: soon to be martian
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - flasche: youll have a shit ping then
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: I know right
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: shit, so im the foreigner then
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: not really
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - flasche: 780000ms latency
    Apr 5, 2017 7:26 PM - Xyaminou: this is internet
    Apr 5, 2017 7:27 PM - flasche: minimum latency
    Apr 5, 2017 7:27 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: true
    Apr 5, 2017 7:28 PM - Xyaminou: it's okay I'll host an Empires server on Mars
    Apr 5, 2017 7:28 PM - Xyaminou: and make it popular there.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:28 PM - flasche: well you sure will have the best server up there
    Apr 5, 2017 7:28 PM - flasche: its gonna be a bit barren tho
    Apr 5, 2017 7:28 PM - Xyaminou: so no difference
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Xyaminou: I already have the best server down here :p
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we could use lasers to connect to mars
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: its been done before
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - flasche: it also only travels at the speed of light
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Xyaminou: yeah even at the speed of light and at its closest
    Apr 5, 2017 7:29 PM - Xyaminou: it's like, what, 2 or 3 minutes?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - flasche: 13minutes
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: nah not at its closest
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - flasche: according to the first google hit
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: speed of light is 8 minutes to the sun, and Mars Earth at its closest
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: is way less than that
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - flasche: hmm good point
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: so even if you're talking roundtrip
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - Xyaminou: I'd say 2 or 3 minutes.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:30 PM - flasche: thats the avaerage distance then i assume
    Apr 5, 2017 7:31 PM - Xyaminou: at its closest, at its furthest it's probably 20 or 30 minutes.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:31 PM - Xyaminou: yeah probably average distance
    Apr 5, 2017 7:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: if that's the case, we might have to set the server rate 1 per half an hour
    Apr 5, 2017 7:31 PM - Xyaminou: lol, yup
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - Xyaminou: set timeout message to 24 hours.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - flasche: yeah another page said between 4 and 24 minutes
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - Xyaminou: Yup that's more like it.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: damn i ripped a hole in my shoe
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - Xyaminou: need faster than light
    Apr 5, 2017 7:32 PM - flasche: so in the worst case you move after the round is already over
    Apr 5, 2017 7:33 PM - Xyaminou: need quantum entanglement to teleport information
    Apr 5, 2017 7:33 PM - flasche: i was just going to say that lol
    Apr 5, 2017 7:36 PM - flasche: but it also only transmits information at the speed of light seems
    Apr 5, 2017 7:36 PM - Xyaminou: it does? I didn't know that.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i've heard these a long and elaborative back story to the mod. can you give the abridged version?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: god damn speed of light, it's so slow.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:37 PM - flasche: the original backstory actually isnt so long
    Apr 5, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: I can't really remember the backstory tbh
    Apr 5, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: it's all still in worldbuilding I believe
    Apr 5, 2017 7:38 PM - flasche: somethign something brenodian emprie fighting with jekotian nation
    Apr 5, 2017 7:38 PM - flasche: brenodi won
    Apr 5, 2017 7:39 PM - flasche: then some insurgents found a hidden weapon cache from jekotia and funded the northern faction
    Apr 5, 2017 7:39 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i knew what the game was about, but i just found the story, and its only 4 chapters long
    Apr 5, 2017 7:39 PM - flasche: also brenodians used nanotech to modify their abilities, whereas jekotia used biotech to do the same
    Apr 5, 2017 7:40 PM - flasche: those stories in worldbuilding are semi-official
    Apr 5, 2017 7:41 PM - flasche: the pinned ones by donmegel
    Apr 5, 2017 7:41 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: ok
    Apr 5, 2017 7:41 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: yeah those are the ones i found
    Apr 5, 2017 7:41 PM - flasche: donmegel was one of the original devs
    Apr 5, 2017 7:41 PM - flasche: he created the northern faction art
    Apr 5, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: very good modeller
    Apr 5, 2017 7:43 PM - flasche: i think duke was aswell
    Apr 5, 2017 7:43 PM - flasche: duke made brenodi
    Apr 5, 2017 7:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 5, 2017 7:46 PM - flasche: cleve this is more or less the whole of the truely official backstory https://wiki.empiresmod.com/Factions
    Apr 5, 2017 7:47 PM - flasche: beep-beep-beeeeeep user fatality
    Apr 5, 2017 7:48 PM - Sgt.Security: We are obtaining your Empires fingerprint.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: oh god there's this guy Mr. X. again
    Apr 5, 2017 7:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: wot
    Apr 5, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: always talking in that video
    Apr 5, 2017 7:49 PM - flasche: was that the round king crashed?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:50 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 5, 2017 7:50 PM - flasche: so sad, such a sexy map
    Apr 5, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: 27vs27
    Apr 5, 2017 7:52 PM - Xyaminou: much hype
    Apr 5, 2017 7:52 PM - Kidpaler: I think it can be fixed by just disabling walls... but then theres the problem of would we want to play that.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: life without walls
    Apr 5, 2017 7:53 PM - Kidpaler: It would give us a lot more edicts to work with. Would it be the final solution to that map? Idk. It'd probably still need 50+ hours put into it to get it working.
    Apr 5, 2017 7:53 PM - flasche: not now nf cv can drive over turrets no
    Apr 5, 2017 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: also BE was clearly superior
    Apr 5, 2017 7:53 PM - flasche: i fucking hate that its the worst
    Apr 5, 2017 7:54 PM - flasche: better put the 50+h into removing the dynamic lights
    Apr 5, 2017 7:54 PM - flasche: and recreate all the brush entities
    Apr 5, 2017 7:54 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Apr 5, 2017 7:54 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: question, the ammo count when it in double digits, it wouldn't display the full number. it would show the first then be followed by "..." is it just how my resolutions are set?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:55 PM - Kidpaler: What is your resolution?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:55 PM - Xyaminou: #blamedevo
    Apr 5, 2017 7:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: it was like at the max like 1920 i think?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - flasche: i play in 4k and everything is so fucking small, but i got used to it
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: weird
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: that's what you get for being rich flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: richer*
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - Kidpaler: It shouldn't be that way Cleve, can you take a screenshot and post it here?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - flasche: its only for the LMG right?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:56 PM - flasche: when you have 2 3 digit numbers
    Apr 5, 2017 7:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: huds in source sometimes mess up when the res settings are on my computer, so that may be the problem
    Apr 5, 2017 7:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: when there are double or more flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 7:57 PM - flasche: dont you play at your monitors native resolution?
    Apr 5, 2017 7:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: yes thats what i meant
    Apr 5, 2017 7:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'll figure it out myself
    Apr 5, 2017 7:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: don't think its a bug
    Apr 5, 2017 7:59 PM - flasche: i wouldnt bet on it
    Apr 5, 2017 7:59 PM - flasche: :P
    Apr 5, 2017 7:59 PM - flasche: is it 1920x1080 or x1200?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:00 PM - flasche: bc the first one is pretty standard i guess, so everyone should experience the same
    Apr 5, 2017 8:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: the first one
    Apr 5, 2017 8:00 PM - Paradox: how did u get so rich flasche
    Apr 5, 2017 8:00 PM - Paradox: drugs?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:00 PM - flasche: i am not rich the hell
    Apr 5, 2017 8:01 PM - flasche: yes please
    Apr 5, 2017 8:01 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 5, 2017 8:01 PM - flasche: but only the good shit
    Apr 5, 2017 8:01 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: he ran the french connection
    Apr 5, 2017 8:02 PM - flasche: i guess the main reason is that i dont live alone
    Apr 5, 2017 8:02 PM - flasche: and we share costs
    Apr 5, 2017 8:03 PM - Xyaminou: it does help
    Apr 5, 2017 8:04 PM - flasche: oh man and how it does, it basically did cut my costs in half
    Apr 5, 2017 8:05 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Apr 5, 2017 8:06 PM - Kidpaler: Damn, someone needs to go through the wiki and under the "clan" page put "dead" next to all the listed active ones.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:08 PM - Xyaminou: rofl
    Apr 5, 2017 8:08 PM - Xyaminou: EPIC IS NEVER DEAD!
    Apr 5, 2017 8:08 PM - Xyaminou: EPIC masterrace for life
    Apr 5, 2017 8:08 PM - Kidpaler: Okay.. then put "Semi-Active" next to it because every other one is basically dead.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:09 PM - Kidpaler: @, ENT, 164te, Consortium (Both the old and 2.0), JPL, and BSID
    Apr 5, 2017 8:09 PM - Xyaminou: not like there are any non-dead clan or reason to ahve clans
    Apr 5, 2017 8:09 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: there are clans?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:09 PM - Kidpaler: JFR is a clan isn't it?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: nobody has enough commitment or leadership skills to scrim anymore
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, steam group clans. When there are enough players in enough clans, they have clan battles
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - flasche: not really cleve
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - flasche: not truely active ones at least
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: lol JFR aka spike recruits everyone he sees in one clan and it serves no purpose
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - flasche: those times are sadly over
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: also no offense to spike but as far as leadership, he's not all there.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - Kidpaler: I mean, you have to recruit people to get them to care more?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's no "clan" as such, best you can hope for is the league that spike's been talking about. There;s some threads about it on the forum
    Apr 5, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: you have to split people into different clans, there's no point in all of them being in one.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:11 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, that's true. But considering there is only one clan theres not much to split.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: JFR has like 90% of the newer active players
    Apr 5, 2017 8:11 PM - Kidpaler: We have enough people to do two clans, but we don't have a second clan for people to join
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Xyaminou: which leads me back to, there are no real clans
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - flasche: that would require a handful of people to have enough commitment to cope with all the shit that comes with it
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Xyaminou: and who's gonna lead the second one? or the first one even.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause let's face it it's only a matter of time until spike does something out of order.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Kidpaler: Spike is apparently leading the first, just need someone to lead the second
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Kidpaler: And I wouldnt even say leaders, more councils to reduce stress
    Apr 5, 2017 8:12 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: by the way destroyer if you check your channel you will find that you are one sub more popular
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: All I'm saying is good luck getting people to have that kind of commitment.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - Kidpaler: Spike seems to have corrected himself some, I talked to him and he told me why he's changed
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - flasche: yeah kidpaler keep dreaming
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: Oh god don't sub to destroyer's there are sensitive contents on there.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - Xyaminou: invasion of my private life!
    Apr 5, 2017 8:13 PM - Kidpaler: Doesn't MrDie comment on there?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:14 PM - Xyaminou: I guess I'll have to pretend I was drunk for all those DnD sessions if anybody asks
    Apr 5, 2017 8:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lel
    Apr 5, 2017 8:14 PM - Xyaminou: greatest excuse ever.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and thanks cleve, i'm hoping to get more content on there....it's slow rolling thouhg
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - flasche: destroyers channel is one of the few i abo'd
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: all of this reminds me, I haven't recorded anything in a long time.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - Lazybum: abo'd?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: gotta remember to record some stuff, like that King game
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - flasche: dunno
    Apr 5, 2017 8:15 PM - Kidpaler: Hey Destroyer.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: abonnement?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - flasche: how to better say that without typing abonnement
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: are you speaking french now flaschE?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - flasche: oh subscribed
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: subscribed?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: you should probably grab a cold destroyer's fridge then Xyaminou. he needs all the help he needs with those pizza boxes
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - flasche: its the same word in german xya
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: it is? sweet I know german!
    Apr 5, 2017 8:16 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Apr 5, 2017 8:17 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: a cold one*
    Apr 5, 2017 8:17 PM - Kidpaler: Destroyer, how goes the trailer?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:17 PM - flasche: we have a whole lot more french loanwords
    Apr 5, 2017 8:17 PM - flasche: especially in austrian german
    Apr 5, 2017 8:17 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I'll definitely raid Destroyer's fridge.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:18 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: my sentence structure is on point today
    Apr 5, 2017 8:20 PM - flasche: youd probably rage about pronounciation tho lol
    Apr 5, 2017 8:22 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah no I stayed away from german all my life for a reason.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:22 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im watching the emp_jeepjoust preview looks like a clusterfuck
    Apr 5, 2017 8:23 PM - Xyaminou: luckily I escaped the NE of france before being old enough to learn a third language which allowed me to chose something else than german
    Apr 5, 2017 8:23 PM - Xyaminou: not that I remember any of the spanish lessons at all
    Apr 5, 2017 8:23 PM - flasche: im just happy i didnt have to learn it as 2nd language
    Apr 5, 2017 8:24 PM - flasche: learning languages its just not my thing
    Apr 5, 2017 8:24 PM - Xyaminou: as long as you don't have to learn french you should be fine.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:24 PM - flasche: yeah thankfully i escaped that aswell
    Apr 5, 2017 8:24 PM - flasche: by going to a technical school
    Apr 5, 2017 8:25 PM - flasche: lots of people learn french here
    Apr 5, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: good thing I limited infantry maps to 10 minutes, people voted 3 in a row
    Apr 5, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: on NUBS it'd have been 2h15 minutes of infantry maps.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:26 PM - flasche: is spec locked for inf maps awell?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: jeepjoust is a mess and it's available on NUBS and lazylizard's server
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: nah
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: cool
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the trailer's not going at all becaus e i need to record gameplay footage....and there's no gameplay to be had
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not cruel enough to force people to play infantry maps
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: that's savage.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:28 PM - flasche: haha
    Apr 5, 2017 8:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i noticed something on the wiki. one of the out of date maps called canal was made by R_yell
    Apr 5, 2017 8:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gotta play good maps that don't end up in an endless stalemate
    Apr 5, 2017 8:30 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Isn't R_yell the dev of fistful of frags?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't know, is he?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i think so
    Apr 5, 2017 8:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that pretty interesting to know
    Apr 5, 2017 8:31 PM - Kidpaler: Yes, yes he is.
    Apr 5, 2017 8:32 PM - Xyaminou: Empires has some great devs
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - flasche: i cant recall if i ever played that map
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: like, Kylegar went on to developp Squad
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: where he's known as Roy Awesome
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: krenzo is making some dope VR
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: that too
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im about to go. i'll see if i can play today and figure out that hud bug
    Apr 5, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: I don't understand how that company expects to make money
    Apr 5, 2017 8:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hud bug?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:34 PM - Kidpaler: They can only run one person at a time through the "level" they made
    Apr 5, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: population is finally rising btw we got 20 on
    Apr 5, 2017 8:34 PM - Kidpaler: What do you mean rising? AS in game pop or just for today?
    Apr 5, 2017 8:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: something about the ammo count not showing the second digit of double numbers
    Apr 5, 2017 8:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'll figure it
    Apr 5, 2017 8:35 PM - flasche: make screenshots post in support forum
    Apr 5, 2017 8:35 PM - flasche: im sure someone can help you
    Apr 5, 2017 8:35 PM - flasche: also that map list, its so out of date
    Apr 5, 2017 8:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: but it's been very nice talking to ya. hope to see you lot later
    Apr 5, 2017 8:36 PM - Kidpaler: Cya
    Apr 5, 2017 8:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i know the map list was out of date
    Apr 5, 2017 8:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: bye
     
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    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:36 PM - Kidpaler: Update it Flasche!
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:36 PM - flasche: bye
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:36 PM - Kidpaler: Actually, don't. Make me models instead. I'll get someone else to update it.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM - flasche: i dont see no reason why its even there
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM - flasche: not wait thats means the opposite of what i wanted to say
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM - flasche: asdf
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:38 PM - Kidpaler: I was going to say... is that what you meant?
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: I should update the wiki...
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: just
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: so much stuff
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Kidpaler: Can't look at it that way. You have to look at it is small chunks so its not so daunting.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yo i found a dope video of some polaks, two brothers and a mother
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plus some dude outside
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Xyaminou: I can't not look at the big picture
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Xyaminou: it's not possible for me.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's very polish.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: Just go into the maps page of the Wiki, then focus on just maps.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: Thats 1 job for a day.
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dudes are laying some serious swearwords near the start, can't do that shit in english
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: Next, day go to 1 other page
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM - Kidpaler: Destroyer
    Apr 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM - Kidpaler: how much footage is there for the trailer atm?
    Apr 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Hullo again!
    Apr 5, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: By the way the bug was on my end so I fixed
    Apr 5, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Xyaminou: good to know.
    Apr 6, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: league league league
    Apr 6, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: wheee
    Apr 6, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: #somewhatexcited
    Apr 6, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: :3
    Apr 6, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Jesus those were some passed off poles
    Apr 6, 2017 at 1:14 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Pissed off*
    Apr 6, 2017 at 1:14 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Bloody auto correct
    Apr 6, 2017 at 2:44 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i guess it's morning at you lot's side of the world
     
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    Apr 6, 2017 8:22 AM - flasche: id be quite pissed when people throw bottles at my window aswell
    Apr 6, 2017 10:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't have a 5th aaaa
    Apr 6, 2017 11:09 AM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 6, 2017 11:35 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: missing a fifth squadmate
    Apr 6, 2017 11:44 AM - Xyaminou: for?
    Apr 6, 2017 11:46 AM - Xyaminou: oh league duh
    Apr 6, 2017 11:49 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: dnd is fine don't worry, you'll get to murderhobo soon enough
    Apr 6, 2017 11:51 AM - Xyaminou: what's the best way to get images of maps' minimaps?
    Apr 6, 2017 12:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: vtfedit and look at the vtf files i assume
    Apr 6, 2017 12:20 PM - Xyaminou: fucking stupid wiki
    Apr 6, 2017 12:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you're trying to get images onto the wiki then vtfedit for sure, it lets you export the files too; most are .tga format
    Apr 6, 2017 12:29 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I'm using it to get jpegs
    Apr 6, 2017 1:32 PM - Xyaminou: This fucking wiki is absolutely horrible with file upload wtf.
    Apr 6, 2017 1:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Sounds like a chore
    Apr 6, 2017 1:34 PM - Xyaminou: yep, I had to name a file fuck this wiki.jpg so it wouldn't upload it UNDER another fucking image
    Apr 6, 2017 1:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Jeez.
    Apr 6, 2017 1:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Anyways, Im about to take 2 or 3 hour test today
    Apr 6, 2017 1:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: found the image you were talking about
    Apr 6, 2017 1:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: lol
    Apr 6, 2017 2:57 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah as you can see I tried to upload "new versions" of the old minimap but somehow the original one always takes precedence.
    Apr 6, 2017 2:58 PM - Xyaminou: It's not user friendly at all, which for a wiki is shit.
    Apr 6, 2017 3:13 PM - Xyaminou: I feel like I need to ask again, even though thexa told me no. Devs: did SoF get changed to the _tc1 version in the last few updates? 'cause the ship is no longer working and the res nodes are not longer x1.
    Apr 6, 2017 3:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was not responsible for any changes past that spaceship being activated
    Apr 6, 2017 3:16 PM - Xyaminou: so it did get changed?
    Apr 6, 2017 3:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: idk
    Apr 6, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: Okay so after some testing... the map I have on my client and server are NOT the same
    Apr 6, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: and yet
    Apr 6, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: and yet I can play SoF on my server.
    Apr 6, 2017 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: so apparently changing resnodes output doesn't trigger "map differs" errors
    Apr 6, 2017 4:56 PM - Lazybum: I felt like a couple years ago the ship was disabled, right around the same time res rates on some maps were changed
    Apr 6, 2017 5:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what did i miss?
    Apr 6, 2017 5:55 PM - flasche: everything
    Apr 6, 2017 5:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i had to take a 3 hour test today
    Apr 6, 2017 5:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well, i guess a series of tests
    Apr 6, 2017 5:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: while that was happening, Xyaminou was raising hell about the wiki not working
    Apr 6, 2017 6:27 PM - Neoony: wow look at the server list now
    Apr 6, 2017 6:27 PM - Neoony: 12 servers xD
    Apr 6, 2017 6:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: yeah not very many
    Apr 6, 2017 6:31 PM - Neoony: thats too many for empires
    Apr 6, 2017 6:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well how many is enough for empires?
    Apr 6, 2017 6:36 PM - Neoony: 1-2...but it doesnt hurt to have more :P
    Apr 6, 2017 6:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: to be honest, i don't think i've meat a single american in the servers i join
    Apr 6, 2017 6:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: not yet at any rate
    Apr 6, 2017 6:48 PM - Neoony: thats strange...its often americans here
    Apr 6, 2017 6:48 PM - Neoony: or...wel...canadians..
    Apr 6, 2017 6:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im hoping i can get in a server today at some point
    Apr 6, 2017 6:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: mess around, learn how to play
    Apr 6, 2017 6:56 PM - A-z-K: 1. Everyone loves Engineers. 2. Engineer walls are life, if you don't build them up you can shoot over them. 3. Blame the commander for everything
    Apr 6, 2017 7:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: got that message already
    Apr 6, 2017 7:01 PM - Neoony: thats all we need for a quick tutorial
    Apr 6, 2017 7:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: the devs should update the tutorial to a map with just those words
    Apr 6, 2017 7:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: thats all
    Apr 6, 2017 7:03 PM - A-z-K: I think that's all I learnt in about 8 years
    Apr 6, 2017 7:03 PM - Neoony: AZK...record that and we just slap it as an emp intro video
    Apr 6, 2017 7:04 PM - Neoony: We need it in YOUR voice :D
    Apr 6, 2017 7:04 PM - A-z-K: I can manage that
    Apr 6, 2017 7:04 PM - A-z-K: though I could probablyu just cut it down to point #3
    Apr 6, 2017 7:05 PM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 6, 2017 7:05 PM - Neoony: Blame your commander for everything....congratulations, now you know how to play empires!
    Apr 6, 2017 7:06 PM - A-z-K: ^^
    Apr 6, 2017 7:06 PM - Lazybum: :(
    Apr 6, 2017 7:06 PM - A-z-K: May be too complicated still. Better shorten it.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:06 PM - A-z-K: "Everything is Hobbes fault"
    Apr 6, 2017 7:06 PM - A-z-K: "Thanks Hobbes"
    Apr 6, 2017 7:07 PM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 6, 2017 7:07 PM - Neoony: so
    Apr 6, 2017 7:07 PM - Neoony: "Blame hobbes"
    Apr 6, 2017 7:07 PM - Neoony: we are now at 2 words
    Apr 6, 2017 7:08 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: the shorter, the more money we save'
    Apr 6, 2017 7:09 PM - Lazybum: "nubs"
    Apr 6, 2017 7:09 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: perfect
    Apr 6, 2017 7:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what are the best servers to join?
    Apr 6, 2017 7:15 PM - Lazybum: the one with players
    Apr 6, 2017 7:17 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: didn't destroyer say something about a NUBS server?
    Apr 6, 2017 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: Join any of them, they are all pretty much the same
    Apr 6, 2017 7:24 PM - Paradox: best server is memehouse
    Apr 6, 2017 7:24 PM - Paradox: in the weekends we populate memehouse because then the real games occur
    Apr 6, 2017 7:24 PM - Paradox: during the weekdays its any otherserver that has people on
    Apr 6, 2017 7:28 PM - Xyaminou: best server is mine, clearly.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:30 PM - Kidpaler: Lack of wages is kind of a turn off for me, especially for pub games where people get into tanks. No way for me to get into a tank based on my performance
    Apr 6, 2017 7:32 PM - Kidpaler: Sorry, where newer people get into tanks
    Apr 6, 2017 7:32 PM - flasche: it doesnt bother me i only waste tanks anyway
    Apr 6, 2017 7:32 PM - flasche: but give me rpg and mortar and im happy
    Apr 6, 2017 7:34 PM - flasche: also xyas server obviously is the best as i have the least ping there - thats perfectly objective
    Apr 6, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: If you want a quick summary of what each server's problem is:
    Apr 6, 2017 7:37 PM - Xyaminou: ESB: Admins do nothing and mapcycle leaves room for population inappropriate maps
    Apr 6, 2017 7:38 PM - Xyaminou: Lazy's: Little kid's server, lots of terrible plugins, will lag and crash as soon as there's more than 15 players
    Apr 6, 2017 7:39 PM - Xyaminou: Wired's server: some joke maps and plugins have been bugging recently but good administration makes up for the flaws
    Apr 6, 2017 7:39 PM - A-z-K: Look at everyone vying for your patronage Major
    Apr 6, 2017 7:40 PM - Xyaminou: Mr. X.'s: No wages, no player resource scaling, heavily enforced mapvote sometime leading to too few maps.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:40 PM - Kidpaler: MrX's is basically a hardcore server
    Apr 6, 2017 7:40 PM - Xyaminou: basically
    Apr 6, 2017 7:41 PM - Xyaminou: Although it's just real Empires, but hey...
    Apr 6, 2017 7:41 PM - Xyaminou: Let's not debate that again.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:42 PM - Xyaminou: so TL;DR: Play on Wired's server.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:45 PM - Ranger: WTF
    Apr 6, 2017 7:46 PM - Ranger: How could you forget Anitalink?
    Apr 6, 2017 7:46 PM - A-z-K: Yeah Anitalink ftw
    Apr 6, 2017 7:46 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 6, 2017 7:46 PM - A-z-K: no-one has admin so there is nobody to blame but yourselves
    Apr 6, 2017 7:47 PM - Ranger: aszholez
    Apr 6, 2017 7:47 PM - A-z-K: There is no fate but what we make for ourselves
    Apr 6, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: that is so beautiful AzK, such a poet.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: Now let's play on a server that can ban people, in the face!
    Apr 6, 2017 7:48 PM - A-z-K: I can't claim it - that's Sarah Connor.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:49 PM - A-z-K: I need your clothes, your boots & your Light Tank.
    Apr 6, 2017 7:49 PM - Xyaminou: talk to my calculator
    Apr 6, 2017 7:50 PM - Neoony: anitalink.com been around on/off for quite a long time....its quite mysterious xD
    Apr 6, 2017 7:50 PM - A-z-K: You can rent Empires servers from Anita Link. I think we should all rent one for a month and give the impression that Empires isn't dead
    Apr 6, 2017 7:50 PM - Kidpaler: They are on every source game I think
    Apr 6, 2017 7:51 PM - A-z-K: 50 servers, 2 players
    Apr 6, 2017 7:51 PM - Neoony: oh
    Apr 6, 2017 7:51 PM - Ranger: Hasta la vista bebi. ~ Terminator, when he 9mined the other terminator
    Apr 6, 2017 7:51 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 6, 2017 8:01 PM - A-z-K: Nice
    Apr 6, 2017 8:05 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: to be honest, i was busy watching a video, didn't see all the suggestions people were giving me. whoops
    Apr 6, 2017 8:07 PM - Xyaminou: scroll up
    Apr 6, 2017 8:08 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'm caught up now
    Apr 6, 2017 8:10 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what's the point of wages by the way?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:10 PM - Xyaminou: e-penis
    Apr 6, 2017 8:11 PM - Avatarix: moaaaaaaar tankzzzzzzzz
    Apr 6, 2017 8:14 PM - Lazybum: personal jeep fund
    Apr 6, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: It's to allow you, if you are decent at the game, to get more personal money to spend before it pulls into the team money
    Apr 6, 2017 8:20 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that sounds interesting
    Apr 6, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: So if you want a tank and someone else who is a noob (going to waste the money on a crappy tank) are waiting in the VF, you are almost guaranteed to roll it before them due to wages that you have
    Apr 6, 2017 8:20 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: why do some server remove wages?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:21 PM - Kidpaler: Because MrX wants the "Pure Empires" back like 9 years ago feel.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:21 PM - Xyaminou: Commander Supremacy
    Apr 6, 2017 8:21 PM - Kidpaler: See, wages COULD be a good idea if you could dictate who gets a tank and who doesnt
    Apr 6, 2017 8:21 PM - Xyaminou: commander doesn't have control over wages therefore wages are bad
    Apr 6, 2017 8:21 PM - Kidpaler: err removal of wages
    Apr 6, 2017 8:22 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: can the commander restrict the VF?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:22 PM - Kidpaler: And thats where we disagree. If commander could dictate who gets a tank, then sure (But that has massive drawbacks). Wages is your own personal fund so you can get a tank before others if you are halfway decent at playing
    Apr 6, 2017 8:22 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 6, 2017 8:22 PM - Kidpaler: Yes, but that restrictS ALL vehicles
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - Kidpaler: and all players.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - Kidpaler: Unless you have wages. Then you can buy what you want while its restricted.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - flasche: <- a fan of wages
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - Kidpaler: Same.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: guess i better stick to infantry work them
    Apr 6, 2017 8:24 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: then*
    Apr 6, 2017 8:24 PM - flasche: but i also see how empires at its default settings is flooded with resources
    Apr 6, 2017 8:24 PM - flasche: scarse resource games are better imo
    Apr 6, 2017 8:24 PM - Kidpaler: If your team has lots of money, or you get lots of wages (You get 20 res from 1 point doing anything really), you get wages to roll your own tank easily.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:24 PM - Kidpaler: I like scarce resources, but I also think Wages are good.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:25 PM - Kidpaler: At most people will usually get 1 heavy tank out of their wages, not much more than that.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:25 PM - Xyaminou: that's already too much
    Apr 6, 2017 8:25 PM - Xyaminou: and that's in a PUB game
    Apr 6, 2017 8:25 PM - Kidpaler: But, it's not.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: Most of the time, you don't get the heavy because you spend your wages at like 200,300,400
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah, it is. you're already talking 20 or so free heavies
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: Rarely do people ACTUALLY save up their wages to bu a heavy.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: No I'm not. A full team of 20 people NEVER gets 100 points each.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: Your looking at the top 5 players on each team, maybe.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Paradox: instead of removing wages just lower it to 10 or something and then lower rest income rate
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Paradox: its an easy fix, you fix too much res in total and you fix not having wages
    Apr 6, 2017 8:26 PM - Kidpaler: You are looking at 5 free heavies, maybe, depending how long the round goes.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:27 PM - Xyaminou: it's 75 points for a heavy, and in PUG they do
    Apr 6, 2017 8:27 PM - Xyaminou: if I were to look at a PUG video I recorded I bet you wages basically double the income of the team
    Apr 6, 2017 8:27 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, so you are making your server for a pug but wanting PUB games to be played on it?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:27 PM - Xyaminou: and that's not okay
    Apr 6, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: how else are people going to learn? Making things easy for them won't get them to learn.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:28 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that's true
    Apr 6, 2017 8:28 PM - Kidpaler: I'm sorry, but isn't making stuff easy how you GET people to learn?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:28 PM - Xyaminou: no, it's not.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:29 PM - Kidpaler: I don't even know how to comment on that
    Apr 6, 2017 8:29 PM - Xyaminou: when I tell people to keep their tanks alive on a server like NUBS everyone is like "why bother"
    Apr 6, 2017 8:29 PM - Kidpaler: New people can't learn how to drive tanks if they are on a server that only vets are allowed to get tanks because you have no money all the time
    Apr 6, 2017 8:29 PM - Paradox: Its not so much making stuff easy that you get people to learn, its more like making stuff accessible especially information
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: then how did I learn it? uh?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Kidpaler: If you are new to this game, you Join X's server, you have no money and the comm will designate vets he can trust to get tanks. The new person won't get a vehicle.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Kidpaler: Therefore, they won't learn.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Paradox: you learned it cause you played way too long
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: you're acting like 10 years ago people were completely unable to learn
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Paradox: it shouldnt take someone that long to learn
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: like eveything that's happened in the past means nothing
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: it didn't take me that long to learn
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Kidpaler: I'm talking as if 10 years ago there was a larger population and less games for people to play
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Paradox: I only mastered empires waaaay down the road
    Apr 6, 2017 8:30 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why you'd assume it did
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: here's my next question on wages: do the rank promotions increase how much you earn?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Paradox: Getting marginally good at empires takes way too long
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Xyaminou: then you're slow paradox.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Paradox: in comparison to almost any other game Ive played
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Kidpaler: They don't Major
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Kidpaler: Also, I just watched a 20 minute PUG from 2013. After about 20 mins, the top score is 35 points.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Paradox: People always look back way too nostalgic to the past
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Xyaminou: newbies shouldn't drive vehicles, and not because of money.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Paradox: memories are lies
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Kidpaler: That's... slow and I guess that was before a lot of point gaining
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Kidpaler: MrX.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Xyaminou: they shouldn't drive because they should first watch
    Apr 6, 2017 8:31 PM - Paradox: #actualscience
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Kidpaler: .... I'm sorry but if I join a game where the main draw is tanks and I am told I can't get a tank I'm not going to stick around
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Xyaminou: it's not fucking nostalgia
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Paradox: the main draw isnt tanks you shit fuck
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Xyaminou: THE MAIN DRAW ISN'T TANKS
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Paradox: the main draw is teamwork on a grand scale
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Kidpaler: I meant one of
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Xyaminou: it's fucking teamplay, it's always been teamplay, it will always be teamplay
    Apr 6, 2017 8:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: fucking hell, i think i caused a hot debate among the devs
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: One of the main features of this game is tanks
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Paradox: these fuckers arent devs
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: what you think when I don't drive a tank I suddenly stop liking Empires?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: Lots of tanks, tank customization
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: Thats one of the main draws to this game.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Lalaland: the tank combat is really unfun anyways
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: Put it anyway you want, its one of the main draws.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: who cares about "features"
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: teamplay, it's all that counts
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Xyaminou: if you join this game for anything else, this isn't the game for you.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:33 PM - Kidpaler: Okay to you. to a new person seeing the ability to drive 10 different vehicles and being able to customize their tank thousands of different ways, tanks are a big part of the game.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: so you're saying, for you, in ALL games EVERYTHING should be available right away
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Kidpaler: I'm not saying that
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: you are
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Kidpaler: However, I'm saying the big draws usually are available for use. In this game, it starts at an LT/AFV
    Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM - Xyaminou: you absolutely are
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Kidpaler: As in, they have some sort of availability
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Xyaminou: Have you ever played MMORPGs?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause, no they're not.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh i like playing with a team. i've never like anything free for all
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, I have.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:35 PM - Kidpaler: Oh, I didnt know Empires was an MMORPG now
    Apr 6, 2017 8:36 PM - flasche: we are the horde
    Apr 6, 2017 8:36 PM - Xyaminou: Do I really have to draw you a picture? of what I'm saying?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:36 PM - Xyaminou: I thought you'd be smart enough to get the similarity of your own
    Apr 6, 2017 8:36 PM - flasche: work, work
    Apr 6, 2017 8:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: ok we get your point now
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Kidpaler: I get what you are saying, however you fail to get what I am saying.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: Anyway by your logic players should be able to enter the CV and command right away
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: so yeah great logic trump
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Thexa4: That'd be ideal :)
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Xyaminou: there's nothing to get in what you're saying other than your logic is faulty
    Apr 6, 2017 8:37 PM - Kidpaler: Your logic is faulty lol
    Apr 6, 2017 8:38 PM - Kidpaler: You are restricting a BIG part of the game away from a group of people who potentially came here because its advertised as a big part of the game.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:38 PM - Xyaminou: You're just a perfect example of the wrong mindset to get in the game
    Apr 6, 2017 8:38 PM - flasche: yeah what you talk about is empires biggest strength, and its biggest weakness at the same time
    Apr 6, 2017 8:38 PM - Xyaminou: "I want everything right away"
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - flasche: its a teamgame that absolutely rely on people willing to give up their own needs for the greater good
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Kidpaler: I'm sorry, but I don't want to have to watch hundreds of hours to be given permission to drive a tank around which I will PROBABLY lose because I don't know how they handle.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: You really think that when I started playing BF for example I entered the fucking helicopters or such right away? no because I'm smart enough to learn the game first
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF HOURS
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: WHO?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: UH?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - Kidpaler: I did, I crashed it twice then I was OK at flying a heli
    Apr 6, 2017 8:39 PM - flasche: i did in bf nam
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Kidpaler: Really didn't take long to learn from trial and error, like in most games.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - flasche: but helis are op
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Ranger: GUYS IM TRYING TO READ THE OLD MESSAGES, STOP TYPING
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: And you just proved my point exactly
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: wrong mindset to get into the game
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - flasche: i also rather play infantrist in bf
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Kidpaler: Did that in Red Orchestra 2 as well. Got in the tank, was a total noob and cost my team the game once, then I learned how it worked and I can successfully tank.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: you're the problem really
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: people with mindset like you, who don't have the humility to know what they don't know.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:40 PM - Xyaminou: to know their place.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:41 PM - Xyaminou: learn to observe first, how hard is that?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:41 PM - Kidpaler: Know, I know I don't know it. HOWEVER I didn't know the game mechanics behind it or how it operated in that specific game so I tried it out myself
    Apr 6, 2017 8:41 PM - Xyaminou: god proper education is hard to find nowadays.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:41 PM - Kidpaler: MrX, how are you suppose to learn how a tank drives, how a tank cannon shoots if you can't do it yourself? You can't watch that.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:41 PM - Kidpaler: Thats all from feedback of you driving it and operating it yourself.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: Sure you can watch them shoot, maybe learn some of the angling, but you won't know until you try it yourself.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:42 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Ok look I think new players should not be restricted of tanks, but should take baby steps on how to use them
    Apr 6, 2017 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: ^
    Apr 6, 2017 8:42 PM - Kidpaler: Thats what I am saying.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Xyaminou: Nobody should be restricted from tanks they should just be smart enough to know what they don't know
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Xyaminou: but they're not
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Xyaminou: like trump
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Kidpaler: Watching only gets you so far for tank driving. For commanding, yes it can get you further because it's more about placements and research paths.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Xyaminou: so you're forced to take measures
    Apr 6, 2017 8:43 PM - Ranger: YOU get a tank when ur team wins or youre playing on slaughtered so you have ten centuries to play with all types of tanks before the game ends
    Apr 6, 2017 8:44 PM - Xyaminou: If people were using their brains to ask their commanders if it's the right time for them to get a tank, we wouldn't have that problem.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:44 PM - Xyaminou: But apparently kids nowadays don't have brains
    Apr 6, 2017 8:44 PM - Xyaminou: and are all like trump saying "oh i already know everything I don't have to ask anyone I should have access to everything right away"
    Apr 6, 2017 8:44 PM - Kidpaler: You are requiring so much from a new person who is just trying out this game. You are requiring them to 1. Watch people to learn how tanks work. 2. Communicate immediately and know what resources are 3. How to properly make a tank
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Xyaminou: it's not SO MUCH, at all.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Xyaminou: the fact that you think it is just proves how terrible players are nowadays
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Kidpaler: Compared to another game they can go download, yes. Yes it is.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Xyaminou: FUCK other games, I don't give a shit about other games.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: God what I done?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Kidpaler: BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED there are THOUSANDS of other games a player can go play. THIS GAME is in competition with all the other games.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:45 PM - Xyaminou: you don't like it, go play some of these "other games"
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Kidpaler: Great, then the game will die. This game is in competition. It must compete, to an extent, or it dies.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Xyaminou: THEN LET THEM GO PLAY THESE GAMES!
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - vipervicki: no worries Major X just needs an empires 12 step program
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Ranger: xya u cant ask that of a person. u either let them do wat they want like everyone else, or u introduce tiers and levels and shit. only then he would understand he has to play moar to get the goodies
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Xyaminou: I've seen dozens of players doing just what I said and having NO PROBLEM with it
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Kidpaler: I haven't seen one new person doing any of that. In fact, most new people don't even get the concept of Resources.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:46 PM - Xyaminou: fucking pussies
    Apr 6, 2017 8:47 PM - Ranger: some do, some dont
    Apr 6, 2017 8:47 PM - Xyaminou: gotta make everything baby proof, because retards must have access to everything
    Apr 6, 2017 8:47 PM - Xyaminou: lol don't even get the concept of resources... fucking what the hell are they doing on a game like this
    Apr 6, 2017 8:47 PM - Xyaminou: god you're making it sound like you ahve to be a genius to play Empires
    Apr 6, 2017 8:47 PM - Kidpaler: You realize this game attracts two different crowds, right? RTS players and FPS players.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Xyaminou: and not that it's jus that fucking 99% of the people who join this game are just retards
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Kidpaler: FPS players couldn't give a shit about the RTS aspect.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Xyaminou: it attracts not RTS players whatsoever
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Xyaminou: THEN FPS PLAYERS SHOULD BE PUSHED THE FUCK OUT of the game
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Xyaminou: because clearly this is not the game for that
    Apr 6, 2017 8:48 PM - Kidpaler: So, if this game doesn't attract the RTS players, and you want to push the FPS players, what is left?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Kidpaler: A very very niche couple of people?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: No one, so what?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Kidpaler: So stop bitching.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: so what?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: You're rather DESTROY a brilliant game
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Paradox: you both sound like idiots
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Paradox: idiots who dont have a commander score of 30/30
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: than fucking accept that idiots do not belong
    Apr 6, 2017 8:49 PM - Xyaminou: Paradox gtfo I'll nerf you
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Kidpaler: People are only idiots because they don't get the game.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Neoony: lols
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Paradox: lol
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Kidpaler: IF the tools are there for them to learn while playing via tips or new tutorials, then it can help the "idiots" become more adept at this game.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Paradox: you cant nerf me, IVe screenshotted it already
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Xyaminou: no people are idiots because they were made that way
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Paradox: Spike you are the biggest drama causer here
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What have i done?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Ranger: SO JUST CUZ I KNOW THE GAME THAT I CAN'T BE AN IDIOT ANYMOR? RACIST
    Apr 6, 2017 8:50 PM - Xyaminou: There's only so much you can do with tools when people are clearly retarded
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - vipervicki: welcome to empires major same shit different day
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - Xyaminou: could you not post fucking pictures in the middle of a conversation
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - Xyaminou: Ranger plenty of people who "know the game" are still idiots
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - flasche: nothing cleve
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - Ranger: thank you
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - Spike: lol i just like to watch people go mad at each other i find it rather entertaining. Its like putting two chickens into a cage and watching them fight
    Apr 6, 2017 8:51 PM - flasche: when i said "if it doesnt implode due to drama" thats basically what i meant
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - Ranger: this is hardly drama
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - Xyaminou: If you think this is me going "mad" you clearly don't know anything about me
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - flasche: yes not even close to what we are capable of
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: All I asked was what wages are
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - flasche: uuuh
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - flasche: big mistake lol
    Apr 6, 2017 8:52 PM - vipervicki: LOL major
    Apr 6, 2017 8:53 PM - Xyaminou: never ask anything in Empires.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:53 PM - Xyaminou: or in the shoutbox
    Apr 6, 2017 8:53 PM - Kidpaler: Yes, so that way you can be ruled an idiot and ran out.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:53 PM - Xyaminou: when I'm bored
    Apr 6, 2017 8:53 PM - flasche: and never take anything overly serious
    Apr 6, 2017 8:54 PM - Xyaminou: now, can people join so I can stop being bored?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:54 PM - Ranger: u get resources for every point u make. quantity depends on server. usually 20 per point
    Apr 6, 2017 8:54 PM - Xyaminou: ranger, we already answered.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, no more wages talk for the next week.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Ok let's calm down now
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - vipervicki: ranger how dare you answer when someone already did! ;)
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - Ranger: aok
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - Xyaminou: calm down? as opposed to what?
    Apr 6, 2017 8:55 PM - Xyaminou: the only step down for me would be to fall asleep
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - Ranger:
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Note to self: don't ask anyone FOR ANYTHING
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - vipervicki: jsut dont ask when X is around
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - Spike: help populate MR'xs server gentelmen :3
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - Xyaminou: see, people can learn by observing
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, people in game will GENERALLY help out. Unless it's X. Then you are just ruled and idiot :)
    Apr 6, 2017 8:56 PM - flasche: no, ask away, but just dont expect it to not cause endless, pointless discussion.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:57 PM - vipervicki: intelligent people ask questions
    Apr 6, 2017 8:57 PM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 6, 2017 8:57 PM - flasche: because if were pro at something then its endless pointless discussions
    Apr 6, 2017 8:57 PM - vipervicki: only dummies dont want to learn
    Apr 6, 2017 8:58 PM - Xyaminou: I have a degree in endless pointless discussions
    Apr 6, 2017 8:58 PM - Kidpaler: Ranger, if I could like that I would.
    Apr 6, 2017 8:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I'll play around sometime after 5:00 CST
    Apr 6, 2017 8:58 PM - Ranger: xD
    Apr 6, 2017 9:02 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What's the most populated server right now?
    Apr 6, 2017 9:03 PM - flasche: xyas
    Apr 6, 2017 9:03 PM - Kidpaler: Hardly anyone is on right now
    Apr 6, 2017 9:03 PM - flasche: but also only 8 players
    Apr 6, 2017 9:03 PM - Xyaminou: what
    Apr 6, 2017 9:04 PM - Xyaminou: oh
    Apr 6, 2017 9:04 PM - flasche: when i join soon 9
    Apr 6, 2017 9:13 PM - Ranger: omg almost 10
    Apr 6, 2017 9:20 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: The dream is real
    Apr 6, 2017 10:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: steamcharts is showing a net player loss >:c
    Apr 6, 2017 10:21 PM - Xyaminou: I blame you
    Apr 6, 2017 10:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wait what did i do this time
    Apr 6, 2017 10:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there i banned myself that should help
    Apr 6, 2017 10:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Don't worry I'm on my way in about 5 to 10 minutes
    Apr 7, 2017 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: So apparently if I give Destroyer admins his first action is to ban himself :p
    Apr 7, 2017 1:56 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Even he can't admin himself
    Apr 7, 2017 2:49 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i got some horrible games while playing Mr.X's server
    Apr 7, 2017 2:51 AM - Kidpaler: Why were they horrible?
    Apr 7, 2017 2:52 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: we had a french commander who was playing on a linux, and for some reason couldn't orders
    Apr 7, 2017 2:54 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: after a comm change we lost our positions. we were playing cayons
    Apr 7, 2017 2:54 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: me and alpha lost the d-3 hill to lt's
    Apr 7, 2017 2:55 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: soon it became a clusterfuck of tank at our main
    Apr 7, 2017 2:55 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: sorry, LT's
    Apr 7, 2017 2:56 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: flasche was there to witness it too
    Apr 7, 2017 2:57 AM - Kidpaler: Sounds like most games that lose their comm
    Apr 7, 2017 2:58 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: one game they kept invade our tower in a custom map. after they nuked us, the killspawned with an apc and just wreaked us
    Apr 7, 2017 2:59 AM - Kidpaler: How many people on?
    Apr 7, 2017 2:59 AM - Kidpaler: The fewer there are, the worse the games seem to be
    Apr 7, 2017 3:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: pretty small, like 10. but people weren't fucking joining up and stayed afk
    Apr 7, 2017 3:01 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: could've had 15 vs 15 at least if they joined a team
    Apr 7, 2017 3:02 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: hope we could do better next time
    Apr 7, 2017 3:04 AM - Kidpaler: Try back on the weekend, usually there is enough for 32v32 games
    Apr 7, 2017 3:06 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: kinda planning to join the bugtest saturday
    Apr 7, 2017 3:08 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: but my schedule is hell
    Apr 7, 2017 3:09 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: wait it wasnt canyon
    Apr 7, 2017 3:17 AM - Spike: we had some good games earlyer :3
    Apr 7, 2017 3:22 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i was having trouble using tanks effectively, what do you lot suggest?
    Apr 7, 2017 3:50 AM - Lazybum: keep moving, poeple can't hit moving targets, and it's probably a good idea to spend an extra second aiming to hit
    Apr 7, 2017 3:51 AM - Lazybum: also be sure to constnatly rotate your tank so you don't take everything to one side, you have a lot of hp if you spread teh damage around your tank.
    Apr 7, 2017 3:53 AM - Lazybum: oh, and tanks have a really long range, you can just shoot buildings from afar. A lot of time you can help win games by just destroying buildings instead of shooting the tanks at a distance
    Apr 7, 2017 3:54 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: thanks. are tanks affected badly by high ping?
    Apr 7, 2017 3:58 AM - Spike: yeah
    Apr 7, 2017 3:58 AM - Spike: they are
    Apr 7, 2017 3:59 AM - Spike: the responce time goes down as your ping get higher
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: jesus. guess no more tanks for me in Mr.X's server
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Spike: ehh
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i get about 110 to 125 on his server
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Spike: well ive drove with 150 ping fine
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 7, 2017 4:00 AM - Spike: even with 250 for about 6 months when i had bad net
    Apr 7, 2017 4:02 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: ok so it's still all right with 100 ping range
    Apr 7, 2017 4:02 AM - Spike: its just something you have to get used too dude the tank handeling in empires is terrible compared to other games. I remember when i first started playing empires i found driving tank most difficult in fact i was terrible however you do get used to it
    Apr 7, 2017 4:02 AM - Spike: also the tanks do spin out alot
    Apr 7, 2017 4:02 AM - Spike: however you do learn how to get around that too
    Apr 7, 2017 4:03 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: guess it just takes practice
    Apr 7, 2017 4:04 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: but what about armor, weapons, and dealing with weight and cost?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:05 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: like when to use certain armors or weapons
    Apr 7, 2017 4:06 AM - Spike: the balance isnt that good currently...
    Apr 7, 2017 4:14 AM - Spike: well
    Apr 7, 2017 4:15 AM - Spike: gg us just attacked Syria
    Apr 7, 2017 4:16 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: who?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:16 AM - complete_: hey donald trump did you see those posts i just liked? LMAO
    Apr 7, 2017 4:17 AM - Spike: trump seemed to think it was a good idea to launch missiles against syria
    Apr 7, 2017 4:17 AM - Spike: when theirs Russian fighters helping the Syrians fighting isis
    Apr 7, 2017 4:18 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: grand. us Americans are bloody idiots
    Apr 7, 2017 4:20 AM - Spike: syria is already in the shit
    Apr 7, 2017 4:20 AM - complete_: aww shiet i forgot he doesnt use his old account anymore
    Apr 7, 2017 4:21 AM - complete_: i guess i have to make those likes public
    Apr 7, 2017 4:21 AM - Spike: god help US if they hit any Russian soldiers in the missile strikes
    Apr 7, 2017 4:25 AM - vipervicki: russians military was warned to leave, us attacked an airport a targeted strike that was used to kill people with a chemcial weapon thatwhich broke aan greement syria with the us an russia, and the un..american
    Apr 7, 2017 4:26 AM - vipervicki: troops were near where the chemical weapons were used
    Apr 7, 2017 4:27 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: guess we better start singing "It's Christmas at Ground Zero" now
    Apr 7, 2017 4:28 AM - complete_: vicki how do you feel about donny trump only bombing syria only after master hillary gave him the go-ahead
    Apr 7, 2017 4:29 AM - vipervicki: he bobm one airport in syria
    Apr 7, 2017 4:29 AM - vipervicki: bombed
    Apr 7, 2017 4:30 AM - complete_: lol donald was watching a hillary clinton talk and only bombed syria once she said he should bomb syria
    Apr 7, 2017 4:30 AM - complete_: "I really believe we should have and still should take out his air fields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them."
    Apr 7, 2017 4:30 AM - vipervicki: he wa sin meetings all day with egypt jordan china the pentagon etc
    Apr 7, 2017 4:30 AM - vipervicki: stop saying stupid thigns
    Apr 7, 2017 4:31 AM - vipervicki: he has no use for anyhting hilary says
    Apr 7, 2017 4:31 AM - vipervicki: shes the biggest loser literally
    Apr 7, 2017 4:32 AM - complete_: good question: what do you call the person who takes orders from the biggest loser?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:32 AM - vipervicki: trump had to do what the obama failed at
    Apr 7, 2017 4:32 AM - vipervicki: compelte the thigns u say are so ridiculous and the fact u beleive it is scary
    Apr 7, 2017 4:32 AM - complete_: vicki you said nothing about syria and now you are pro-intervention just because trump did something
    Apr 7, 2017 4:33 AM - complete_: i bet you arent even aware he was anti intervention until today. hillary was the pro intervention one
    Apr 7, 2017 4:33 AM - vipervicki: im not discussing politcs i jsut posted o clarify what someone else said have a gnite
    Apr 7, 2017 4:33 AM - vipervicki: to
    Apr 7, 2017 4:33 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: this has suddenly became the political thread
    Apr 7, 2017 4:34 AM - complete_: i am pro things when a republican does something and anti when a democrat does something. o reilly can rape but clinton cant
    Apr 7, 2017 4:34 AM - complete_: I PROPOSE THE SAME RULE FOR BOTH BILLS
    Apr 7, 2017 4:35 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i really dont care about either person, but we should fighting isis instead of the syrians
    Apr 7, 2017 4:35 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: we're just there now for American interests
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 AM - complete_: that is a very normal position. and so is wanted to stop syrian war crimes.
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 AM - Spike: TONIGHT ON EMPIRES POLITICAL DEBATE: US bombs Syria who was right ? who was wrong ? were any Russian soldiers hurt in the missile attack ? will Russia kick the shit out of US for this ? FIND OUT TONIGHT ON EMPIRES SHOUT BOX DEBATE
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 AM - complete_: whats not normal is being a hypocrite. which i see all the time nowadays
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 AM - vipervicki: no one is fighting syrians
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 AM - Spike: isnt syria fighting isis ?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:37 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: yeah, and at the same time, themselves as well
    Apr 7, 2017 4:37 AM - vipervicki: the bombgin of the airport was to SAVE syrians
    Apr 7, 2017 4:37 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah turns out the airport was run by syrians what a surprise
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 AM - complete_: is it just me or is vicki sleeptalking after saying goodnight?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 AM - vipervicki: it was used by assad to mirder children babies and otehr ciilains ..
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 AM - complete_: guys maybe if someone just gave assad a fucking pepsi. just an idea....
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 AM - vipervicki: lol yeah compelte jsut it annoys me when people say thigns and know nothing about the facts
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i think so now
    Apr 7, 2017 4:39 AM - Señor_Awesome: mirder children babies hahaha ( I mean it's not funny except in the tragic sense, but awful situation in Syria is not remotely a new one )
    Apr 7, 2017 4:39 AM - vipervicki: how about we send assad to rule your countries
    Apr 7, 2017 4:39 AM - vipervicki: and chole u to deaht while your sleeping
    Apr 7, 2017 4:40 AM - vipervicki: choke
    Apr 7, 2017 4:40 AM - Señor_Awesome: the new, and worrying aspects here are the escalation of intervention combined with Russia's relatively recent entrance into the picture
    Apr 7, 2017 4:40 AM - complete_: assad has been killing children for years. weird how you didnt care when obama wasnt going in
    Apr 7, 2017 4:40 AM - Señor_Awesome: ^
    Apr 7, 2017 4:40 AM - vipervicki: lol compelte another stupid repsnse
    Apr 7, 2017 4:41 AM - vipervicki: obama did sjit
    Apr 7, 2017 4:41 AM - vipervicki: shit
    Apr 7, 2017 4:41 AM - vipervicki: he was ashit pres
    Apr 7, 2017 4:41 AM - vipervicki: red line my ass
    Apr 7, 2017 4:41 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: fucking hell, are you drunk man?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - vipervicki: i find it funny how all u lefty cry about everyone shud have heealthcare and pretend u care about people but a maniac murders innocent people time and time again and thats ok with u
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - Spike: whos drunk ?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah sure Assad was perfectly okay with me
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - Señor_Awesome: I had no problems with it
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - complete_: vicki you should join the miltary and save the children
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: vipervicki
    Apr 7, 2017 4:42 AM - complete_: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...dish-militia-syria-isis-islamic-state-w466069
    Apr 7, 2017 4:43 AM - vipervicki: u shud read facts and not make them up
    Apr 7, 2017 4:43 AM - complete_: click that link and know it will never be you
    Apr 7, 2017 4:43 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: vipervicki
    Apr 7, 2017 4:43 AM - vipervicki: i dont click links
    Apr 7, 2017 4:44 AM - complete_: you make them?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:44 AM - vipervicki: what major?
     
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    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:45 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: fucking internet, was trying to answer spike's question, sent the message twice
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:45 AM - vipervicki: im not drunk i dont drink and im female not a man
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:45 AM - vipervicki: i jsut type like shit
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:45 AM - Señor_Awesome: you really do
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:45 AM - vipervicki: plus im laying down
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:46 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: sorry
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:46 AM - vipervicki: i know sneor its my laim to fame
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:46 AM - vipervicki: in chat sites
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:46 AM - vipervicki: thye made an vicki to english dictionary
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:47 AM - vipervicki: plus my keys r not working right lately so its worse
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:47 AM - vipervicki: than usual
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:48 AM - vipervicki: new sheriff in town..enjoy
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:48 AM - Señor_Awesome: here's an idea, switch to dvorak keyboard layout to see if somehow it fixes your problems
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:48 AM - Señor_Awesome: don't change how you type, just change how your keys work. Maybe it will somehow come out more intelligible
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:49 AM - Señor_Awesome: :P
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:49 AM - complete_: vicki is drunk celebrating the bombing of that poor airbase
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:50 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: ok enough stuff about her being drunk
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:51 AM - complete_: i thought of a funny joke while getting a sandwich and had to post it
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:54 AM - complete_: vicki cares so much about syrian babies so much but doesnt want them in her country or in europe
    Apr 7, 2017 at 4:59 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: good we got a league scoreboard now
     
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    Apr 7, 2017 5:06 AM - Lazybum: probably should put something along the lines of, whenever we get 25+ poeple on each team the games begin
    Apr 7, 2017 5:07 AM - Lazybum: I'm hoping for a summer squad league, but I can't seem to remmeber what went wrong with the winter squad league I did last year
    Apr 7, 2017 5:08 AM - Señor_Awesome: Some squads too good, people too non-committal for most squads to stay together
    Apr 7, 2017 5:09 AM - Lazybum: it was kinda that, but now I remembered we just didn't have the squad leads needed, the ones we did have ended up in the same squads
    Apr 7, 2017 5:10 AM - Señor_Awesome: cause all the good squad leads are also all the good squad members
    Apr 7, 2017 5:10 AM - Lazybum: yup
    Apr 7, 2017 5:12 AM - Lazybum: so many poeple on this forum, amazing
    Apr 7, 2017 5:12 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: well maybe next time league comes around, i'll have more free time to participate
    Apr 7, 2017 5:13 AM - Lazybum: oh wait no, some poeple just have really long names
    Apr 7, 2017 5:13 AM - Señor_Awesome: 8 members, still quite a few for here
    Apr 7, 2017 5:13 AM - complete_: dont count me im a russian bot
    Apr 7, 2017 5:14 AM - Señor_Awesome: explains why you never give up even in the face of completely hopeless causes
    Apr 7, 2017 5:14 AM - Señor_Awesome: poor programming
    Apr 7, 2017 5:15 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: was it always this empty back then?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:16 AM - Spike: anyone can join the league
    Apr 7, 2017 5:16 AM - Spike: even if you are abit new
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Señor_Awesome: oh man the forums used to be a utopia of love and knowledge and people flocked here like they were bees and this was the goddamn arboretum of magical flowers
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Lazybum: if you mean these forums they used to be way more alive, but oddly probably around the same amount of users on at a given moment
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Spike: the league will teach you high level play :3 i know alot of newer people who played in the league and they turned out to be really good players and work in squads really well
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Spike: i think some of them i even got into JFR
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Señor_Awesome: in all seriousness what lazy said, there were still not very many active users just more thread activity and off topic discussion
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM - Lazybum: oh right, there wasn't the shout box so poeple just didn't stay logged in all the time, or at least that's what I assume to be the case
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 AM - Señor_Awesome: shoutbox killed off topic
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 AM - Lazybum: it did, and incovenitly I have to sift through a thread that only updates once a day
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 AM - Spike: what ever happened to the black hole ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 AM - Lazybum: for older discussions
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 AM - Spike: LONG LIVE THE KING
    Apr 7, 2017 5:19 AM - Lazybum: im just sad the bear's arse hole isn't here, I kinda miss the music and gif backgrounds
    Apr 7, 2017 5:19 AM - Señor_Awesome: we also lost the users who would post long things about new releases of games/movies and other crap that most everybody else wouldn't take the time to write a sentence about
    Apr 7, 2017 5:20 AM - Lazybum: yea that too, they even had the drive to make the posts intresting instead of " this looks cool, whacha think?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:20 AM - Spike: didn't mrdie's alt account hang out in the black hole ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:21 AM - Señor_Awesome: there was no consistent alt account
    Apr 7, 2017 5:21 AM - Lazybum: they tend to get banned rather fast
    Apr 7, 2017 5:21 AM - Señor_Awesome: there was moo/darkhorizon and his very strange north korea boner
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Spike: well its not really hard to spot a mrdie account
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Wired_4fun: Man
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Spike: NORTH KOREA
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Wired_4fun: remeber when empires didnt suck
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Wired_4fun: I dont
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Señor_Awesome: I don't
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Spike: yeah
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Spike: that was cool
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Spike: like pre 2.30 ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Lazybum: when it had more fun poeple playing
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 AM - Wired_4fun: Also
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Wired_4fun: remove all euro servers
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Wired_4fun: euros are non people
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Lazybum: i think that's my problem with empires recently, I rarely get to play with fun poeple anymore
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Wired_4fun: I miss the HSM days
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: it sounds like empires was the shit back then
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Lazybum: just new poeple, and they just don't have that old empires charm about them
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah for one thing they don't talk
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - complete_: people who think 2.24d is the best version are forever noobs
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM - Señor_Awesome: and when they do talk you want them to stop
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Wired_4fun: I miss LT Mk2
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Lazybum: yea, 2.0 was best version
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Wired_4fun: those were fucking great
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Spike: LT mk2's were broken
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - complete_: maybe ill use my mic someday and make the game stupider
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Lazybum: aka the version i started playing
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Wired_4fun: Bio Engine Plasma Cannon fucking best AFV
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Spike: the NF lt mk2 was OP as shit
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Señor_Awesome: I didn't start until 2.12 or around then I think
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 AM - Lazybum: i wonder if it's still op....
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Wired_4fun: Man reason Plasma Cannon Bio Engine was op as fuck
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Wired_4fun: was because you could shoot hella fast
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: do you really need to have mic to communicate well?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Wired_4fun: as fast as the cannon cycled
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Lazybum: kinda?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Wired_4fun: mic are a requirement if you command
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Señor_Awesome: still confused about how we went backwards with semantic versioning... I played without a mic for a couple years
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Lazybum: can't shoot and type at same time
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 AM - Lazybum: no they aren't look at complete
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Lazybum: he's great
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Wired_4fun: says you
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Lazybum: i also didn't use a mic for a long time
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Wired_4fun: Having a mic automatically makes your commanding skill 100%+
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Wired_4fun: also
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Lazybum: im pretty sure ive seen some poeple do worst with mic
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah it also probably makes my team hate me like 100%+ more
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM - Wired_4fun: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....773/4F09532DBFEEB95C5A6EF697810DB790822776AC/
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 AM - Wired_4fun: that was the highest pop ive seen in months
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 AM - Lazybum: ded game
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh shit
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 AM - complete_: if you're both good you can kinda infer from each other
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 AM - Wired_4fun: complete git gud git a mic
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 AM - Señor_Awesome: I once commed a match with only fart noises
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 AM - Señor_Awesome: we lost, but actually got pretty far
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 AM - complete_: i have 3 mics
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 AM - Señor_Awesome: it actually fell apart when the game lasted over an hour and new people started joining and were confused/angry
    Apr 7, 2017 5:29 AM - Lazybum: i really want to say i commed as a scout with radar stealth, just so i could never get caught
    Apr 7, 2017 5:29 AM - Lazybum: then the enemy comm had to build a second base behind his old one and found me
    Apr 7, 2017 5:30 AM - Lazybum: it really wouldn't surprise me if this actually happened in duststorm, poeple suck at noticing things
    Apr 7, 2017 5:30 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: that must had been awkward
    Apr 7, 2017 5:30 AM - Lazybum: I still really want to see a vid of hobbes commanding both teams
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: that was pretty funny
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: that's happened?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 AM - Lazybum: i just need to know if he tried boom tanking against himself
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: both were boom tanking but not straight up in the other base as much
    Apr 7, 2017 5:32 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: why does hobbes like to bommtank a lot
    Apr 7, 2017 5:35 AM - Lazybum: its fun
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 AM - Wired_4fun: SPIKE
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 AM - Wired_4fun: YOU SHIT
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 AM - Wired_4fun: That doesnt work
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: what happened?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:51 AM - Spike: what doesnt work ???
    Apr 7, 2017 5:51 AM - Spike: what you moaning about now geeeeeeez
    Apr 7, 2017 6:03 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: how much stress does the mod put on the engine?
    Apr 7, 2017 6:05 AM - Wired_4fun: welp spike, tested glycenplains
    Apr 7, 2017 6:05 AM - Wired_4fun: map is broken and easily exploitable
    Apr 7, 2017 6:07 AM - complete_: oh yeah forgot to mention that
    Apr 7, 2017 6:16 AM - Wired_4fun: 10/10
    Apr 7, 2017 2:34 PM - Xyaminou: remind me to upload a new release of config files 'cause I changed quite a bit and new plugins.
    Apr 7, 2017 4:25 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: when do you need to be reminded?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:30 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh he's not even on
    Apr 7, 2017 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: I am :p
    Apr 7, 2017 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: "when" is always the question really.
    Apr 7, 2017 4:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: why do we need new configs?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:34 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know about "need" but I like my server to be as automated as possible
    Apr 7, 2017 4:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 7, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: Oh yeah I meant server config files so you don't need to worry about it unless you want to :)
    Apr 7, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: Basically just fine tuning my server to (hopefully) improve player experience
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: more recently it's been removing my old command line that turned spectator on and off (unreliably) and replacing it with Neoony's NCEV's command lines
    Apr 7, 2017 4:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: server still doesn't have nuclear, still 1/10
    Apr 7, 2017 4:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also i was banned from it last night soooo yeah.
    Apr 7, 2017 4:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: didn't you ban yourself?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: someone's been paying attention :)
    Apr 7, 2017 4:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah i went to shower
    Apr 7, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: ban people who go to shower. Got it.
    Apr 7, 2017 4:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: add to the configs to ban anyone who mentions about going to the shower
    Apr 7, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: brilliant idea!
    Apr 7, 2017 4:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what is nuclear?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: by the way
    Apr 7, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: it's a map where people look at each other for 45 minutes
    Apr 7, 2017 4:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: how come?
    Apr 7, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause it has no commanders
    Apr 7, 2017 4:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is it one of those conquest maps?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:06 PM - Spike: can we populate mrx's server please ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:07 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i cant right now
    Apr 7, 2017 5:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mr. x is innately against any map that isn't classic
    Apr 7, 2017 5:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (and a lot of classic maps too,, hint hint)
    Apr 7, 2017 5:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nuclear is an assault style map where NF attacks a BE facility to launch nuclear missiles, kind of like escort but fit for lower populations. Lasts 30-40 minutes, works well at 5v5
    Apr 7, 2017 5:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and aside from a few people's sentiment against any commanderless map, it's rather liked. Or at least, I'm not hearing much against it, which can mean anything behind my back
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: did you make it?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....maybe
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 PM - Spike: I only like commander maps too i don't really see the point in maps that don't have a commander empires is a RTS FTS hybrid game after all
    Apr 7, 2017 5:18 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: true
    Apr 7, 2017 5:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's like with other games with multiple gamemodes, smite's got like 6 modes including its classic one
    Apr 7, 2017 5:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i mean for crying out loud, the entire MOBA and BR genres started off as mods to games (warcraft and arma)
    Apr 7, 2017 5:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why divert from clasic gameplay? Because other types of gameplay also have their merits
    Apr 7, 2017 5:21 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i guess people would want something a little bit different every so often
    Apr 7, 2017 5:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: besides, nuclear is a pretty good seeding map, and given the population profile of empires, that's a good thing to have
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: spike i'm assuming the server with the empires league in its name is yours
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fix the damn spelling
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: question: what's the best way dealing with tanks as infantry?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the amount of times this was pointed would have me burning with embarrassment already
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as engineer, without exploiting it's to wall it off and break contact
    Apr 7, 2017 5:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as scout, it's to roll over and die/stickystun it and hope others take care of it while it's stuck there
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as rifleman, it's to bait it into driving close enough for stickies - 2 for a full health light/afv/apc, 3 for a full health med, 4 for a full health heavy
    Apr 7, 2017 5:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in general the wisest course of action is to find cover and friendlies.
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: in other words: run like hell
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - Paradox: 1. Take cover 2. If you can flank, flank ( scout rifle ) 3. If you cant just go away or killspawn
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and finally as grenadier, depending on the tank's loadout you want to stay super close (most weapons) or have a lot of cover to dart in and out of (HE/nukes) and keep firing RPG/mortar
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - Paradox: Always take cover though
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also minestacks. Definitely minestacks.
    Apr 7, 2017 5:26 PM - Paradox: if you are flanking take cover too
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you set up 8 mines somewhere and they're bound to go off on somebody sooner or later, likely taking them down
    Apr 7, 2017 5:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in a direct confrontation though, it's all about dancing around their attacks and hitting RPG shots, hoping reinforcements come
    Apr 7, 2017 5:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and all this will likely go out the window when vehicles get lag compensation next patch, because an anti-infantry MGs will reign supreme
    Apr 7, 2017 5:30 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: why?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because right now you can't hit a damn thing with those unless they stand still
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 PM - Kidpaler: Which is why they were also nerfed to compensate for them dealing damage now
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but once you can just track them like in any normal game, MGs will demolish infantry in a matter of shots
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yep, nerfed, sure, how much damage do they do? std mg does 5hp/hit i'm guessing?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:31 PM - Kidpaler: I have no idea, I'm just going off what I was told
    Apr 7, 2017 5:32 PM - Kidpaler: I was told they were nerfed because they became OP
    Apr 7, 2017 5:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well a standard cannon hit does anywhere between 15~ and 65 on a direct hit
    Apr 7, 2017 5:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a couple shells, finish them off with stdmg, easy kills all around
    Apr 7, 2017 5:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the one saving grace is that most people will roll with anti-tank weaponry to deal with tanks and buildings, but it'll take one 50cal to ruin the day for all infantry on a frontline
    Apr 7, 2017 5:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's my prediction, anyway
    Apr 7, 2017 5:34 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: jeez
    Apr 7, 2017 5:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but hey don't worry tank combat will become much nicer as a result
    Apr 7, 2017 5:35 PM - Kidpaler: Well, I mean, having an anti infantry MG would be nice in comparison to hitting an infantry with Dual ER and them not dying
    Apr 7, 2017 5:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you gotta actually hit them with dual ER, then they die
    Apr 7, 2017 5:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: grens may not, but other classes take 80-90 damage, maybe more
    Apr 7, 2017 5:39 PM - Spike: Such grammar nazi
    Apr 7, 2017 5:39 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you trying to be taken seriously?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: then make this token efffort when someone points out a blatant mistake and fix it
    Apr 7, 2017 5:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: there's a reason you don't see spelling errors around, and it's not "just because" or "nazis control the world"
    Apr 7, 2017 5:41 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i spell like a drunkard
    Apr 7, 2017 5:42 PM - Spike: I just think its funny when people seem to go mad when one word has a typo in it
    Apr 7, 2017 5:42 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well with some words
    Apr 7, 2017 5:42 PM - Spike: WAHHH ITS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY
    Apr 7, 2017 5:43 PM - Neoony: im waiting for the day people here finally realize the difference between your and youre
    Apr 7, 2017 5:43 PM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 7, 2017 5:43 PM - Neoony: to add to the grammar topic xD
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: is there a grammar topic?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Neoony: didnt mean actual forums topic
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Spike: i think i may of spelled empires incorrectly
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Spike: gg
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Spike: its the end of the world
    Apr 7, 2017 5:44 PM - Neoony: empries
    Apr 7, 2017 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: Holy hell, thats an old map. We have emp_landing
    Apr 7, 2017 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: Has aircraft and everything. Cool map.
    Apr 7, 2017 5:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: aircraft?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: Well, yea. Very very poorly done but yes.
    Apr 7, 2017 5:48 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah no don't get your hopes up
    Apr 7, 2017 5:48 PM - Neoony: its an immitation of empires aircraft dream coming true
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Neoony: i mean imitation* XD
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh deat
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Xyaminou: calling these things aircraft is like calling a paper plane a plane
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: FUCK
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Neoony: how is paper plane not a plane? :D
    Apr 7, 2017 5:49 PM - Xyaminou: exactly
    Apr 7, 2017 5:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: for the record, the argument of "lol i'm just trolling" is really weak one, as many years of onlien presence might have showed everyone by now
    Apr 7, 2017 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:52 PM - Kidpaler: Relax dude, I'm just trolling
    Apr 7, 2017 5:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: referring back to spike
    Apr 7, 2017 5:54 PM - Spike: ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:55 PM - Neoony: ??
    Apr 7, 2017 5:55 PM - Spike: referring back to me ?
    Apr 7, 2017 5:56 PM - Spike: brb
    Apr 7, 2017 6:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: at this point you're basically looking to pick a fight with this and that's pretty frustrating to me
    Apr 7, 2017 6:11 PM - Spike: what what makes you think im trying to pick a fight....
    Apr 7, 2017 6:15 PM - Spike: i just don't see why your trying to make a big deal out of someone misspelling something its not like im writing a fucking SA or an important email. Honestly who gives a shit ?
    Apr 7, 2017 6:16 PM - Ranger: "may of" "must of" common mistakes as well. it's very wrong. it's must've. sounds the same
    Apr 7, 2017 6:17 PM - Ranger: well tbh if u typ leik dis in a anouncmnt peepz will tink your some kind off young hooman.
    Apr 7, 2017 6:19 PM - Spike: oh god
    Apr 7, 2017 6:19 PM - Spike: thats terrible
    Apr 7, 2017 6:19 PM - Spike: people actually type like that it phone text
    Apr 7, 2017 6:20 PM - Ranger: ye
    Apr 7, 2017 6:23 PM - Xyaminou: bullshit you can't type like that on smartphones it's auto corrected
    Apr 7, 2017 6:24 PM - Ranger: its a new language. new vocabulary and dictionary.
    Apr 7, 2017 6:24 PM - Ranger: your is corrected in ur
    Apr 7, 2017 6:24 PM - Ranger: to
    Apr 7, 2017 6:30 PM - Spike: i remember the old phone txt :3
    Apr 7, 2017 6:30 PM - Spike: the ones with the buttons
    Apr 7, 2017 6:30 PM - Spike: also you can turn off auto correct
    Apr 7, 2017 7:04 PM - Neoony: maybe you should turn it on XD
    Apr 7, 2017 7:12 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: God, my classmates are idiots
    Apr 7, 2017 7:16 PM - Ranger: idoits
    Apr 7, 2017 7:20 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Three of our guys got caught skipping school during band
    Apr 7, 2017 8:07 PM - Paradox: Fuck yeah spikes almost at psychotic breakdown
    Apr 7, 2017 8:07 PM - Paradox: Told you so guys, hes still clinically insane
    Apr 7, 2017 8:14 PM - Kidpaler: That's pretty sad that you are hoping he has a breakdown
    Apr 7, 2017 8:38 PM - Spike: ahh look paradox stirring shit again
    Apr 7, 2017 8:38 PM - Spike: well
    Apr 7, 2017 8:38 PM - Spike: its nice to see that no people change
    Apr 7, 2017 8:42 PM - Spike: once a little bitch always a little bitch i suppose ^_^
    Apr 7, 2017 8:43 PM - Spike: i mean i may be abit mad however ive never had a doctor tell me that im insane
    Apr 7, 2017 9:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we can talk psychiatrics in may, i got a course then; shouldn't birng anything up
    Apr 7, 2017 9:02 PM - Xyaminou: bad DM
    Apr 7, 2017 9:17 PM - Paradox: Hes had like multiple breakdowns over his entire empires carreer lol atleast he has stopped his white knight/angel act
    Apr 7, 2017 9:17 PM - Paradox: @Kidpaler
    Apr 7, 2017 9:18 PM - Spike: paradox give it a rest and stop being a silly little bitch kay thanks ^_^
    Apr 7, 2017 9:19 PM - Spike: oh wait doesn't matter i think your incapable of not being a little bitch :3
    Apr 7, 2017 9:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: White knight act?
    Apr 7, 2017 9:44 PM - A-z-K: I remember when I used to get mad over silly little things that happened in an obscure old computer game. Good thing I found Jesus, now I only get mad at people on twitter for having 140 chars of differing opinions
    Apr 7, 2017 9:59 PM - Spike: I don't really get mad at people
    Apr 7, 2017 10:05 PM - A-z-K: Unless they dont lok at the minimap
    Apr 7, 2017 10:06 PM - A-z-K: Anyone ever play Double Action: Boogaloo
    Apr 7, 2017 10:07 PM - A-z-K: That game is baller
    Apr 7, 2017 10:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I've tired to play, just too fast for me
    Apr 7, 2017 10:37 PM - Spike: AZK
    Apr 7, 2017 10:37 PM - Spike: look at the minimap
    Apr 7, 2017 10:37 PM - Spike: fucking rifleman is too powerfull
    Apr 7, 2017 10:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Are ya at Mr.X's server?
    Apr 7, 2017 11:02 PM - Spike: yeah
    Apr 7, 2017 11:02 PM - Spike: :3
    Apr 7, 2017 11:02 PM - Spike: night gentlemen
    Apr 8, 2017 2:37 AM - complete_: bzzt
    Apr 8, 2017 2:37 AM - complete_: im gonna go play zelda all this weekend like i usually do and then regret it because i have 10 other school-related things to do
     
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    Apr 8, 2017 2:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: So there's a bug test today, right?
    Apr 8, 2017 2:39 PM - Sgt.Security: Yes
    Apr 8, 2017 2:43 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Hopefully I'll join ya if my day doesn't go to hell
    Apr 8, 2017 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gonna do a short mapping stream, try to get bots to work on district www.twitch.tv/ddddestroyer
    Apr 8, 2017 5:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: bots work on 30% of district
    Apr 8, 2017 5:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so we round up and say they work
    Apr 8, 2017 5:06 PM - Xyaminou: D get on steam
    Apr 8, 2017 5:58 PM - Paradox: saturday night empires on a good server, I like
    Apr 8, 2017 6:37 PM - Spike: yay
    Apr 8, 2017 7:03 PM - Thexa4: Join the beta now! https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/2-13-1-bugtest-april-8th.20914/
    Apr 8, 2017 8:19 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Stuff happened today, not gonna be able to join ya
    Apr 9, 2017 3:08 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: How did the bugtest go?
    Apr 9, 2017 3:18 AM - VulcanStorm: The beta test?
    Apr 9, 2017 3:19 AM - VulcanStorm: We really needed more people to show up... :'(
    Apr 9, 2017 3:19 AM - VulcanStorm: but it went well
    Apr 9, 2017 3:20 AM - VulcanStorm: we discovered a problem with jeeps. but the turret turning speeds needs more people to test it, to see how it feels.
    Apr 9, 2017 3:21 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Sorry I couldn't come, had a lot of shit come up last minute that I had to take care of
    Apr 9, 2017 3:21 AM - VulcanStorm: i want another test, preferably on escort to really test the tank turrets and see how they handle vs infantry
    Apr 9, 2017 3:22 AM - VulcanStorm: so we'll be scheduling another one soon
    Apr 9, 2017 3:25 AM - VulcanStorm: you can still switch to the beta branch and have a go though :)
     
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    Apr 9, 2017 1:11 PM - Ranger: escort? why not crossroads?
    Apr 9, 2017 1:30 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah I'm not playing escort ever again, not if I can help it.
    Apr 9, 2017 2:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: escort is like beer, it's an acquired taste
    Apr 9, 2017 2:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: screw the last flag though, UGH
    Apr 9, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: escort not like beer, escort is just total fucking shit
    Apr 9, 2017 3:17 PM - Paradox: asscort
    Apr 9, 2017 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: 1.2.1 is out.
    Apr 9, 2017 3:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: objectively false. People keep nominating and voting for escort, clearly there is something they enjoy about the map
    Apr 9, 2017 3:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the problem is that a lot of people also hate the map, for one reason or another; it's very polarizing, similar to money
    Apr 9, 2017 3:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what should be the actual topic of discussion is not how bad escort is as a whole, but what specifically makes it bad, what specifically makes it good, and what can be done to diminish the bad and expand upon the good
    Apr 9, 2017 3:55 PM - Xyaminou: what can be done: stop playing it.
    Apr 9, 2017 3:56 PM - A-z-K: I think it's just too tight for tanks to be fun
    Apr 9, 2017 4:04 PM - Paradox: thats what she said
    Apr 9, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: also s Ive said plenty of times before
    Apr 9, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: people shouldnt be allowed to vote
    Apr 9, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: cause the majority are idiots
    Apr 9, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: thats why i always just chose the maps on memehouse
    Apr 9, 2017 4:05 PM - Paradox: cause yall fuking stupid and vote escort followed by urbanchaos and district if I let you have an oppinion
    Apr 9, 2017 4:09 PM - flasche: i think the reason why people like no-comm maps is because there are no comms (surprise, surprise)
    Apr 9, 2017 4:09 PM - Paradox: like when its 20 v 20
    Apr 9, 2017 4:09 PM - Paradox: thers always a comm
    Apr 9, 2017 4:09 PM - Paradox: but people still manage to vote escort or money
    Apr 9, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: what i dont understand though is, why do people even play a game revolving about RTSFPS, when they clearly dont want to?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:11 PM - Paradox: boredom?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: nah i mean, why not play a different fps
    Apr 9, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: not like you dont have the choice
    Apr 9, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: there are plenty, even free ones, out there
    Apr 9, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: its like "oh nice there is a game with a shitload of features, lets only play maps that strip the game of most of them"
    Apr 9, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: like what the hell?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: I've been asking myself the same thing flasche
    Apr 9, 2017 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: but every time I mention it people calling me an extremist or crazy or asshole
    Apr 9, 2017 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: if you really want to play infantry go play BF it's much better at it.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: and I mean shit you can probably get BF3 or 4 for like 10€ now.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: makes you wonder ...
    Apr 9, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: i bet its because we are so awesome :D
    Apr 9, 2017 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: clearly
    Apr 9, 2017 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: also paradox
    Apr 9, 2017 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: learn this
    Apr 9, 2017 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: then maybe you'll know how to admin
    Apr 9, 2017 4:16 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: It does sound stupid for people to play a fps-rps hybrid and never follow the strategy part
    Apr 9, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: that is a fucking awesome list thanks
    Apr 9, 2017 4:19 PM - Paradox: i still dont understand
    Apr 9, 2017 4:19 PM - Paradox: why I cant teamswitch myself
    Apr 9, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: how does !teamswitch <player> work?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:19 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know, have you tried any other commands on yourself?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: it switches them to the other team
    Apr 9, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: pretty straight forward
    Apr 9, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: so from be to nf and vice versa
    Apr 9, 2017 4:20 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 9, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: i was just asking because spec is a team too
    Apr 9, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: that's why there's teamswitch_spec
    Apr 9, 2017 4:22 PM - Xyaminou: hum, is my server not showing up the list anymore?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:23 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not sure why sometimes when I reboot it takes a couple of minutes to show back up in the list.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: also I made this, shows how many maps are on the map pool for every amount of players.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: need more low and very high pop maps.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: mostly low pop, but good ones.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:31 PM - Paradox: YOU NEED TO ADD FUCKING HOMELAND TO VERY HIGH POP
    Apr 9, 2017 4:33 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: That's the one with destructive buildings right?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:34 PM - Paradox: nope
    Apr 9, 2017 4:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh I'm thinking of something then
    Apr 9, 2017 4:36 PM - flasche: well you can destroy windows and such
    Apr 9, 2017 4:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Well I was in one map where a whole wall of a building just broke apart and revealed a bunch of nf to our turrets
    Apr 9, 2017 4:38 PM - Xyaminou: It is paradox
    Apr 9, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: It is the city map with destructible buildings
    Apr 9, 2017 4:39 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh it was?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes it is, facades are breakable
    Apr 9, 2017 4:40 PM - Paradox: what can you break except windows?
    Apr 9, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: i think the building infront of nf base can break
    Apr 9, 2017 4:41 PM - flasche: fe
    Apr 9, 2017 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: you can break a few buildings
    Apr 9, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: i dont know why i dont like homeland
    Apr 9, 2017 4:44 PM - flasche: i mean its not as bad as some others, but its not one of my favorites
    Apr 9, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: plenty of reasons to hate a city map, but it's still the best one.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: its the best city map because, whilst its very chokepointy, the various hallways, elevation and flanking patterns you can take make up for it
    Apr 9, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: It gives you a sense of actual comeradery when you fight side by side there
    Apr 9, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: its fucking amazing
    Apr 9, 2017 4:49 PM - Paradox: 10/10 map
    Apr 9, 2017 4:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I like it. Really does make people work with their squad
    Apr 9, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: yeah it does that too
    Apr 9, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: the downside of empires is, when you have experienced a certain level of teamplay/squad play its basicly impossible to go back
    Apr 9, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: playing subpar that level is just distasteful at times
    Apr 9, 2017 4:57 PM - PwnedYoAss: Honestly, kind of the reason why Empires infantry gameplay is so good. Good squad means serious level of shenanigans.
    Apr 9, 2017 4:57 PM - PwnedYoAss: I mean some aspects of gameplay aren't even achievable without squad powers
    Apr 9, 2017 5:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the reason homeland works so well is that its just the right balance between an open and a choke map where people are continuously close enough to cooperate but arent forced into a single grinder
    Apr 9, 2017 5:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: excellent design in this department
    Apr 9, 2017 5:28 PM - Lawliet: You're all
    Apr 9, 2017 5:28 PM - Lawliet: a bunch of
    Apr 9, 2017 5:28 PM - Lawliet: people
    Apr 9, 2017 5:42 PM - Xyaminou: I prefer being an individual thank you very much.
    Apr 9, 2017 6:03 PM - LordDz_2: Sometimes I really like my country.
    Apr 9, 2017 6:03 PM - LordDz_2: https://i.redd.it/k2iu76cvhjqy.jpg
    Apr 9, 2017 6:07 PM - Xyaminou: it's a crime! look now they can't see out the widescreen, it's an elaborate plot to get them to crash.
    Apr 9, 2017 6:15 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: Apparently the attack took out one of the Spotify directors. Daesh... or Deezer!?!?!
    Apr 9, 2017 6:16 PM - LordDz_2: Damn, yeah a British guy who was a top in Spotify died
    Apr 9, 2017 10:49 PM - Ranger: I like the uniqueness of empires teamplay, the reason I don't play anymore is that the weapons let me down. Like, people and cooperation is nice but the game itself makes me vari disapoint. I find no joy in using my weapons. The most satisfying weapon is melee upgrade. Reason for that is that Empires is old. no h8
    Apr 9, 2017 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....what
    Apr 9, 2017 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so i still don't know what's wrong with the weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 10:50 PM - Xyaminou: the only problem with Empires is no scopes
    Apr 9, 2017 10:51 PM - flasche: im happy i dont have to have acogs on all weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 10:52 PM - flasche: but some ironsights would be neat indeed
    Apr 9, 2017 10:52 PM - Xyaminou: If it were like battlefield where hip fire is shit and you have to aim down the sights to get accuracy it'd be much better
    Apr 9, 2017 10:52 PM - Xyaminou: why it doesn't have to be on all weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 10:52 PM - Xyaminou: but you know on most of them you should be able to chose
    Apr 9, 2017 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: and then you have MPs
    Apr 9, 2017 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: which are made for spraying in close quarters, if that's what you want
    Apr 9, 2017 10:53 PM - Xyaminou: but at least in battlefield you can engage long range with rifles without having to rely on luck
    Apr 9, 2017 10:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm of the opinion that we should stick to a more CS-y approach with limited optics of any kind
    Apr 9, 2017 10:54 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not
    Apr 9, 2017 10:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just...actually make the optics that are there good for longer range combat
    Apr 9, 2017 10:54 PM - Xyaminou: no I want medium and close range optics too
    Apr 9, 2017 10:55 PM - Xyaminou: I want to be able to be accurate at the cost of mobility
    Apr 9, 2017 10:55 PM - Xyaminou: without stupid crouching which still leaves 50% RNG
    Apr 9, 2017 10:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you want to slow empires down then
    Apr 9, 2017 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 9, 2017 10:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and naaah no rng if you control your aim
    Apr 9, 2017 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: no no there is RNG, weapons aren't pinpoint even when you're prone and haven't fire yet
    Apr 9, 2017 10:56 PM - Xyaminou: and have you never played battlefield or what?
    Apr 9, 2017 10:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well yes; if you have to ADS to hit a thing at medium range and more, it'll slow down everyone at those ranges as they take cover and aim instead of moving about at full speed
    Apr 9, 2017 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: no, it won't
    Apr 9, 2017 10:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: guns aren't perfect accuracy but killing enemies is not luck
    Apr 9, 2017 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: proven by battlefield, it won't.
    Apr 9, 2017 10:57 PM - Xyaminou: everything is luck
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you'd want instant snap-to ADS
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and firing without ADS to be very inaccurate, to the point of being pointless
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: okay, but seriously, have you played battlefield or not?
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have played and watched plenty of battlefield
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - Xyaminou: then you know what I want and you know it's not slower.
    Apr 9, 2017 10:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: right click, left click, right click, left click
    Apr 9, 2017 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 9, 2017 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'm telling you we're at that point already, without the need to ADS
    Apr 9, 2017 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 9, 2017 11:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: I guess we didn't play the same battlefield then
    Apr 9, 2017 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: BFBC2
    Apr 9, 2017 11:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: watched many hours of 3, 4, one, and some hardline
    Apr 9, 2017 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i also played a lot of calls of duty
    Apr 9, 2017 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: so you haven't actually played BF3+?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nope, i've spent a fair share of time watching them
    Apr 9, 2017 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: well looks like that not enough.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because i didn't come to the same conclusions as you did?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 9, 2017 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: any other arguments or are we going into ad hominems, starting with "you don't play enough games"?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: Well I was actually going for I'm right you're wrong, but that works too.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well i'm glad we're heading back to kindergarten with the discussion
    Apr 9, 2017 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: unless we invent telepathy there is no argument to be made
    Apr 9, 2017 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: I told you battlefield 3+ is a fast as Empires, you don't believe me, what else do you want from me?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'll concede the point, it's too late for me already
    Apr 9, 2017 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: I also don't know why you're surprised as I already told you many times I don't do argumentations.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: if only empires would be like bf3
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: thatd be great
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: then why did you type even ONE sentence
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: whatever, i'm out.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: especially tanks
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: but no people woudl bitch left and right
    Apr 9, 2017 11:08 PM - flasche: omg i cant just run through tons of enemies because i actually take damage
    Apr 9, 2017 11:09 PM - flasche: omg rpg upgrade is retarded you take damage
    Apr 9, 2017 11:09 PM - flasche: omg
    Apr 9, 2017 11:09 PM - Kidpaler: This game, is, Empires.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause I'm right, that's why.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:09 PM - flasche: and the other side would whine omg i stood right infront of a tank and he killed me with a shot
    Apr 9, 2017 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: well I do hope if Empires ever gets ported it'd try to get up to date with what battlefield does
    Apr 9, 2017 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: meaning attachments, gadgets, multicrew vehicles etc...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:11 PM - flasche: thats one thing spike is right about - empires is broken. what he is not right about is why it is. we all just got used to the brokeness and all the exploits (neutral meaning)
    Apr 9, 2017 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: and not fucking instant revive
    Apr 9, 2017 11:11 PM - flasche: doesnt make the game any less awesome, but the balance just is meh. tanks and infantry are so far apart its a joke
    Apr 9, 2017 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause that's just shit
    Apr 9, 2017 11:12 PM - flasche: its not instant in bf?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: you have to charge it or revived guy gets revived with 20 HP
    Apr 9, 2017 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: so charge, run, click, hide.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:12 PM - flasche: oh i think i always rev'd people with 20hp then
    Apr 9, 2017 11:12 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 9, 2017 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: also I didn't mute spike because he was wrong. I muted him because voice chat during an 18vs18 game isn't the place to argue about balance.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:13 PM - flasche: empires habit
    Apr 9, 2017 11:13 PM - flasche: i have no opinion on that and i honestly dont care
    Apr 9, 2017 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol yeah it took me a while to catch up in BF3 as I was used to BF2 or Empires
    Apr 9, 2017 11:13 PM - flasche: like i played that game for hundreds of hours
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: well Empires habits change on my server.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - flasche: i think i never charged my defi
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - flasche: i feel dumb
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - Ranger: My point was weapons of empires feel like half life and are boring af for me. Idc what empires is supposed to be or what it needs. I like guns brah. I like kf2 guns. Bullets go where I aim no matter what I do or how I move.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:14 PM - Ranger: And I should have mentioned tank weapons too.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: yeah that's what I said Ranger, half life weapons are just shit.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:17 PM - flasche: i find it shit that the first bullet isnt on point
    Apr 9, 2017 11:17 PM - Ranger: yes. also my problem isnt that weapons are broken. it's the the concept of how weapons should be in empires that is very deffirent from what I would like it to be.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:18 PM - flasche: after that it needs some RNG spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:18 PM - flasche: wheter this is done with physics like in bf or with normal spread i dont care
    Apr 9, 2017 11:18 PM - Ranger: I dont believe it's gonna change. Even if Devs want that change, I don't believe they will get the features up to at least Insurgency level
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - flasche: aside of that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - flasche: its change and change always brings whinig
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: I mean, it'd require a HUGE amount of work to get something close to BF3's weapons.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Thexa4: what would you like to see in terms of feeling?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: BF3 feel
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Thexa4: @X, do you have a video or something like that to explain what that is? I haven't played that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Ranger: Erm I can't explain. Killing Floor 2 feel
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - flasche: well bf3s weapons follow a physical model
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - Ranger: + modifications
    Apr 9, 2017 11:19 PM - flasche: the aim is offset by recoil
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: I don't but I'm sure it's easy enough to find one on google.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: and movement and shit
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - Thexa4: we currently have offset by recoil
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - Kidpaler: Movement in Battlefield is nice
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - Thexa4: not not offset by movement
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: yes like I said battlefield is pretty advanced
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: by physical recoil?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:20 PM - flasche: the weapon jumps around and therefor you fire somewhere else?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: I mean the weapons are one of the corner stones of battlefield 3 so they did a huge job on them.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - flasche: it sure does not look like that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, yes
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Thexa4: the crosshair should move up slightly if you fire
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Ranger: Tripwire Interactive, I think, has blogs on how they made their weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Thexa4: depending on the offset vector of the weapon
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: yeah no I don't believe that Thexa, it might be a small part of it
    Apr 9, 2017 11:21 PM - Xyaminou: but the bigger part of it is not that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - flasche: weird it does not look and feel anything like that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: If you've ever watched pro CSGO
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: there is "spray control"
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: and you clearly see the guns aiming somewhere
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: and the bullets are going somewhere else
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - flasche: also why is the first bullet going anywhere and not straight?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: this is source recoil
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: it's the same in every source game
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - flasche: especially noticeable with smg2
    Apr 9, 2017 11:22 PM - flasche: in standing position
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - Thexa4: @x, it's the default, pretty easy to change for weapons if we can describe it
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - flasche: maybe the model doesnt follow the underlying model well enough
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, that is so some weapons aren't good for sniping
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: this is what we have
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: you can clearly see the bullets go OVER where the game is aiming, not where it's aiming
    Apr 9, 2017 11:23 PM - flasche: yeah i figured it would be because of that it just makes me want to bite my keyboard
    Apr 9, 2017 11:24 PM - Thexa4: the first ones will go near the crosshair
    Apr 9, 2017 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: near
    Apr 9, 2017 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: first one should be pin-point accurate
    Apr 9, 2017 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: all bullets should go where the gun is pointing
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - flasche: maybe its just a problem with how its displayed?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Thexa4: it's not really realistic and would impede game balance
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Sgt.Security: *that guy is bad at handling ak47 recoil, at least for me* Anyway yeah it looks improper.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: it's what they have in battlefield
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: and it works just fine
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - flasche: also bullet drop would be nice i really like that in bf games
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - flasche: it limits that sniping capabilities
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: lol security, you're so pro
    Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: if only everyone was as pro as you.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: hmm bullet drop is... meh.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Thexa4: Sorry, with what you're describing I'm not sure what we could change to make it feel better
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: or well closer to BF1
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - flasche: its perfect to limit sniping
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause BF3 and BF4 bullet drop is HORRIBLE.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Sgt.Security: I think I said it somewhere that I was a semi-pro CS player, but let's not derail, yeah it does look weird. Maybe you are saying that the gun should be pointing exactly where the bullets go?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: they actually did a good job fixing it in BF1
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: Thexa, I don't think it can be done either, even with a lot of work I don't know that this engine would be capable of what frostbite does.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - flasche: idk its quite easy to adapt
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - Thexa4: I think in empires the crosshair points to the center of the spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - flasche: have not played bf3 in 2 years or so
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: yes security the bullets should go where the gun is pointing out like...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: wait for it...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: IRL...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - flasche: yeah that might be what makes it look so off thexa
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - Thexa4: IRL you can't control certain weapons well enough to aim correctly
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - Thexa4: so you'll always have spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: that's not the point
    Apr 9, 2017 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: the point is bullets go where the gun is aiming
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Thexa4: no, only with very precise guns
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: and you have spread because you can't control the gun, BUT they ALWAYS go where the gun is aiming.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Thexa4: sure
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - flasche: its really dependent on distance
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Thexa4: but irl you wouldn't have a crosshair
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: well I'm not talking millimeter accurate at 1km
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: but still most weapons are pretty accurate
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I'm fine with no having a crosshair if we have optics
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Thexa4: so complaining that the crosshair is not centered on the point where it'll shoot is backwards in my opinion
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I used to play BF hardcore
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: no crosshair
    Apr 9, 2017 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I'm fine with that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not complaining that the crosshair is not centered
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Thexa4: when you're in iron cross mode it generally goes way closer to the aim point
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: I'm complaining that the bullets don't go where the gun is pointing at
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Thexa4: ok, then I'm not sure I understand, sorry
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - flasche: it might really be a problem with how its presented
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: well I don't know how to explain it other than everything I just said...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: guns shoot straight...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - flasche: like with bullets orginating at your forehead
    Apr 9, 2017 11:30 PM - Sgt.Security: Okay let me try to explain, basically, we have spread, right, but that srpead, should affect how the model moves.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: yes flasche yet another completely shit thing about source
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: bullets don't even come from the guns
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: they just come out of your mouth pretty much
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Thexa4: we have two things working together right now: you have recoil, which moves your gun up, and the crosshair with it. And we have spread, which doens't move the crosshair
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: I mean let's face it source is an absolutely terrible FPS
    Apr 9, 2017 11:31 PM - Thexa4: Recoil is directional, spread is a circle
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not saying you can't improve it, maybe you can, but fuck the default (half life) is shit
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Thexa4: source is an engine, it can do whatever we want
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Thexa4: but I can't seem to figure out what you would want
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: right...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Thexa4: because it looks like the gun points in the direction of the shots in my game
    Apr 9, 2017 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: ask Flasche 'cause I'm all out of explainations...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:33 PM - Xyaminou: did you watch the video?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:33 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 9, 2017 11:33 PM - Thexa4: yes, that's not how our system works. There the crosshair is static
    Apr 9, 2017 11:33 PM - Thexa4: ours moves along with the recoil
    Apr 9, 2017 11:34 PM - Xyaminou:
    Apr 9, 2017 11:35 PM - Xyaminou: I can't tell you how it works I can only tell you Empires is the same as CSS when it comes to the feel. It's shit
    Apr 9, 2017 11:36 PM - Xyaminou: at 3:49 he shoots at the wall, you can see this is how it should feel.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I say do what day of defeat did and have the guns kick upward or whatever direction with the crosshair
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what xya is saying is he doesnt like spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - Ranger: If you could theoritically control/absorb the punch of an AK, the bullets would exit the gun barrel pointing where you want. Then the bullets can go ahead and miss the targets cause of wind and bad shit. Spead is the accuracy of the bullet at certain distances/accuracy. Recoil is another thing entirily, but in source games it's the same
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: no what I'm saying is you should be able to aim with your weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ranger, recoil is not spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - Xyaminou: instead of being a gangsta doing hipfire
    Apr 9, 2017 11:37 PM - Ranger: Literally my point
    Apr 9, 2017 11:38 PM - Xyaminou: supposed to be elite soliders for fuck sakes.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: its not the same in source either
    Apr 9, 2017 11:38 PM - Thexa4: So you would like the recoil to not auto-compensate?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: recoil is one of the things that cause spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - flasche: and thats like that in empires
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: fancy words with no meaning to me
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: me wants BF3+
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: can't put it any simplier
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Ranger: just copy other games
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - flasche: i think xya wants ADS
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Thexa4: sure, if you give me the source code :)
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya wants ads and xya wants no spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:39 PM - Xyaminou: you can use 100 technical words that means absolutely nothing to me
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - flasche: ADS = aim down sights
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - Thexa4: I'd love to improve this, but I would need a way to write down what it is you actually want
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - flasche: as for technical words
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: spread doesn't fucking exists
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: spread makes our bullets have the rng factor which he demonizes so hard
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: you take a fucking rifle IRL you'll have less than a millimeter of spread at 200m
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - flasche: it exists as effect, not as cause
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: spread exists, its a thing in empires, its defined in weapon scripts
    Apr 9, 2017 11:40 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Thexa4: so your problem is with aiming down the iron sights? and not with the normal aiming?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: he means IRL destoryer
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: no
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sigh. irl spread doesnt exist
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: my problem is, again, bullets don't go where the gun is aiming.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: thats what he just said lol
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in empires spread exists
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: and then there's no ADS
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Ranger: Thexa I suppose you're asking us cause you haven't experienced it or have not yet understood what we mean? You should try any of these games: Insurgency, Battlefields, Killing Floor 2. These are games I know that have these things
    Apr 9, 2017 11:41 PM - Xyaminou: glad people are listening to what I'm saying
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - Thexa4: @Ranger, sorry, I don't have those
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - Sgt.Security: Well maybe I received too much FPS training but I stopped caring stuff like this, I literally just pick up the gun and go with it.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: let me put it that way, source is possibly the worst FPS out there right now
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - Thexa4: hm, do have insurgency
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - Xyaminou: can't really think of any game with a worse feel than source.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:42 PM - flasche: all in all people want aim down sight mechanics i guess
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - flasche: where hipfire sucks
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - flasche: but aimed shots are accurate
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Ranger: I think even insurgency the source mod is good. surely better than standard souce games cause it focused on weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - flasche: you cant do that in empires just for ARs
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i second security, you'd think that after so many years of video games you would know how to handle various different weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: well that's what I've been saying...
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Sgt.Security: ^
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Thexa4: the engine itself supports that
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Sgt.Security: That ^ was for Flasche
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - flasche: i know its just not in the game
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: it's not about knowing how to handle the gun
    Apr 9, 2017 11:43 PM - Xyaminou: it's about it feeling like absolutely trash
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: id also support hat ADS and crappy hipfire thing
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: I mean I'm sorry but I'll just have to go back with "get out more and play some other games"
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: the problem really is that aiming only pays off with ARs
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause you need to understand how terrible the FPS part feels
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: like they feel kinda nice even in empries
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - Thexa4: The problem I have is that it doesn't feel that bad for me in Empires, so it's hard for me to figure out what would make it feel better. I actually started playing with CS
    Apr 9, 2017 11:44 PM - Xyaminou: and that's the only way you'll understand
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i play plenty of games with vastly differing approaches,y suggestion is play less games but play them better
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - Thexa4: So if I am to make this better I need to figure out what the magic ingredient is that makes it feel better
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: you all LTP
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: bitches
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: 3
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: scnr
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - Xyaminou: play less games? considering I only play like 2 or 3 right now
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - Xyaminou: kinda hard
    Apr 9, 2017 11:45 PM - flasche: i only play one at a time
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - Xyaminou: also "play better" only way I play better is to actually become a professional and start training 24/7
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: thexa, according to "the people", its removing spread, adding ADS and reducing hipfire accuracy
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: thatd be good for a start IMO
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: i am "the people"
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: but it would require model work i guess
    Apr 9, 2017 11:46 PM - Xyaminou: It still boils down to you guys having less experience to be honest.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: x, clearly too many, and its not just about quantity, its more importantly about quality
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - flasche: aaaaaaaaand its gone ^^
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - Xyaminou: sarcasm?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause I really can't tell.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lel less experience when talking to a semipro
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - flasche: you all shut up i had more kills than tony yesterday
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - Xyaminou: I'm lost I have no idea what you're talking about
    Apr 9, 2017 11:47 PM - flasche: :P
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, why would you need remodel work?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - Sgt.Security: Well, I am neutral about this entire thing, like I said I stopped caring, but Empires is outdated so, well, it could be bad.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - flasche: for ironsights?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - Ranger: So you honestly think Empires guns are superior to Killing Floor's?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - flasche: most weapons dont have them if im not mistaken
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - Ranger: Or bf or anything else
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - flasche: i could be wrong tho
    Apr 9, 2017 11:48 PM - Thexa4: some guns would just be crappier
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - Sgt.Security: I noticed that in KF I could score first headshot without crosshair like 99% of the time, tho.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - Thexa4: huge spread when in hipfire mode, very low spread in ironsight mode
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: dunno the ARs feel quite solid
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - Thexa4: if you don't have ironsights it's just an inaccurate weapon
    Apr 9, 2017 11:49 PM - Sgt.Security: That could be the difference.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Thexa4: like handguns
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: pistols usually also have ironsights
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: there is no spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: just empires ones dont
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: spread doesn't exist, it's not a thing
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Ranger: KF1 is different than KF2. Very different.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Thexa4: irl handguns don't have melee :P
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Ranger: @sgt*
    Apr 9, 2017 11:50 PM - Xyaminou: they absolutely do
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Sgt.Security: I played both and that's the case for me, I didn't really need my crosshair.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: you sure that a punch with a pistol stock wont knock you out?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Xyaminou: try bashing someone on the head with one I can guarantee a kill
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: i mean shit is hard and pointy
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Thexa4: more damage than a bullet?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Ranger: Does kf have crosshair? idk never used it
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Sgt.Security: or ironsight w/e
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: sure not
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - Xyaminou: define "damage"
    Apr 9, 2017 11:51 PM - flasche: but irl most hits will leave you in pain
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - Xyaminou: the guy is dead, so doesn't really matter.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: so no 10 hits from smg either
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - Thexa4: anyways, if someone wants to try it out, you can get very far with only editing scripts
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: youd be out of combat rather quickly
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - Thexa4: you don't need special support to move stuff from spread to recoil etc
    Apr 9, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: can you simulate what the assault rifles do just with scripts?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche: this whole ADS mechanic thing
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - Thexa4: you can make the spread almost zero in ironsight mode
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - Xyaminou: ADS for rifle is shit in Empires
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - Thexa4: and use recoil instead
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't feel good at all
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche: so iron sight mode is just a bunch of variables
    Apr 9, 2017 11:53 PM - Thexa4: yes
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Thexa4: shotty pistol is probably closest to what you expect
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: yaeh from what I heard it's just a change of the field of view and stuff
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Thexa4: hip aiming, very low accuracy
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: which goes back to my point, it's shit.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Thexa4: I can assure you that most other games are exactly the same in that regard
    Apr 9, 2017 11:54 PM - Xyaminou: shotguns actually have spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Xyaminou: no thexa, they're not.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Xyaminou: I'm not talking how it's coded, don't really care about that. I'm talking about the feel
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Thexa4: I do agree that they have different values for the weapons
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Thexa4: ours are rather arcadey
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Thexa4: point and click
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Ranger:
    Apr 9, 2017 11:55 PM - Xyaminou: not what I'm saying
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: point, click, and bullet goes in random direction
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: empires weapons in ads have basically no spread when you use them properly
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - Thexa4: but the underlying implementation is a rather standard implementation
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they feel great when you shoot them as intended
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - Ranger:
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: and thats how they should behave. i mean if you take your time to aim you hit pretty accurate
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - Xyaminou: again with the spread... rifles have no spread... not "basically no", just completely no.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:56 PM - Xyaminou: you want "spread" use a shotgun
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - flasche: i can assure you with a steyr aug its quite easy to hit a stationary target at 300m
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What are we talking again?
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - flasche: same same
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i dont want spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - Xyaminou: we're talking about people not having experiences in other games.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i dont get spread
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - flasche: its actually frightening easy
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - Sgt.Security: Oaky in short, if your crosshair is on the goddamn head of that noob down there, this bullet will penetrate his skull.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:57 PM - Sgt.Security: I think that's what Xya is on.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:58 PM - Sgt.Security: this
    Apr 9, 2017 11:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes
    Apr 9, 2017 11:58 PM - Sgt.Security: Like 100%, no RNG.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:58 PM - Sgt.Security: And if I am terrible at handling recoil that my crosshair flies off, my bullets will miss
    Apr 9, 2017 11:58 PM - Sgt.Security: WILL miss.
    Apr 9, 2017 11:59 PM - Thexa4: yes, set our spread to zero in iron sight mode and you'll get the same behavior
    Apr 9, 2017 11:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^
    Apr 9, 2017 11:59 PM - Thexa4: spread is there for the hip shoot case
    Apr 9, 2017 11:59 PM - Thexa4: where you're actually holding your gun wrong, so you can't control it enough
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - flasche: well you dont really aim in hipfire
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - flasche: just hold into the right direction
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - Sgt.Security: There is "IronSightMultiplier", if you make it 0, you get 0 spread when in ironsight mode.
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - Thexa4: semi aiming :)
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - Sgt.Security: Well didn't try it, but I think it should do the job.
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - flasche: its also only used for very close combat and supressive fire
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - flasche: irl i mean
    Apr 10, 2017 12:00 AM - Xyaminou: it's not gonna "do the job"
    Apr 10, 2017 12:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the job of removing spread.
    Apr 10, 2017 12:01 AM - flasche: lets try it out
    Apr 10, 2017 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: you can't just set the imaginary spread to 0 and think it'll feel like BF3
    Apr 10, 2017 12:01 AM - Xyaminou: it'll still feel like crap and people will complain about guns being too accurate
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - Xyaminou: I really don't understand why it takes an hour to understand "BF3 feel"
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - Thexa4: you could look if there is research on gun handling?
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - Sgt.Security: I think that's where recoil kicks in.
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - Thexa4: because I can't implement feeling, which I could
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - Thexa4: wish*
    Apr 10, 2017 12:02 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: feel is subjective
    Apr 10, 2017 12:03 AM - Xyaminou: I'm not asking for it to be implemented
    Apr 10, 2017 12:03 AM - Ranger: To me "spread" as a script variable would be used for each caliber according. A long range AR bullet would be more accurate than a .45 smg. The variable would be very small. So the chances of missing when your aiming at something would be very very low. And it should take in consideration the distance. Accurate at 50 meters but then at 100m it starts losing accuracy or something like that
    Apr 10, 2017 12:03 AM - flasche: you know what, you should implement ArmA3's weapon model
    Apr 10, 2017 12:04 AM - flasche: nah jk
     
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    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Thexa4: if it's better I'm all for implementing it :)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:04 AM - flasche: and i meant ballistic model
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Xyaminou: lots of things are better
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Thexa4: bf3 is also built up out of recoil and spread: http://symthic.com/bf3-weapon-charts
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Xyaminou: you gotta have priorities you can't just go "oh this is nice let's do it"
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Ranger: problem with ironsights in empires is that the models were not modeled for this. there may be problems
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Thexa4: think we miss the 1st shot modifier
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:05 AM - Ranger: so theres that
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:06 AM - Thexa4: @X, with implement I mean adding it to the interal issue list so it can be prioritized
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:06 AM - Thexa4: but I'm not sure if it actually needs code support
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:06 AM - flasche: yeah ranger i said that before i think most weapons have no actual sights on them
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:07 AM - flasche: but i could be mistaken
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:07 AM - Thexa4: our recoil decay is also static
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:07 AM - Thexa4: that are the only two differences I can find
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:07 AM - flasche: but lets not kid ourselfs, as long empires doesnt have this we dont need any of that fance ironsight shit :P
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM - flasche: fancy*
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM - Kidpaler: While we are at it, can we get bullets penetrating objects?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM - Ranger: wow greek houses
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM - Thexa4: @Kidpaler, I think that was explicitly disabled
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: its base arma, have you not played it? ^^
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:09 AM - flasche: also we need battleground europe tank damage models
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:10 AM - Kidpaler: Oh god, the ability to disable a tank engine would be awesome
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:10 AM - flasche: im still getting wet watching that video
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Kidpaler: That's like War Thunder
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Isn't that what the stun sticky is suppose to do?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Kidpaler: Well yea
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my ideals are so vastly different right now that i wonder how in the world we like the same game
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Kidpaler: but imagine shooting another tank in the sweet spot and the engine becomes disabled
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Sgt.Security: He's referring to cannon penetrating and hit the engine and disables it.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:12 AM - Sgt.Security: Even though I play both games I'd still very much NOT want it in Empires, it's not like our vehicle combat is not gimmicky enough.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh I get it now
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 AM - Thexa4: Anyway, would be cool if someone could try ads scripts, would like to see how that plays
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 AM - flasche: oh neither the arma nor the BGE vid was meant overly serious
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 AM - Sgt.Security: "both games' refer to World of Tanks and War Thunders
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:15 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i imagine cqc would become a shitshow of spraying bullets while medium and long distance fights would progress pretty much the same. that's my prediction, anyway
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:15 AM - flasche: uhm where is the difference?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:15 AM - flasche: cqc is spray and pray ranged its controlled fire
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:15 AM - flasche: or maybe im doing it wrong
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:16 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: less close range accuracy meaning people who can keep their cool when the enemy is in their face will have a harder time landing shots
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:16 AM - flasche: what bugs me more is that there is no range limitation (i know falloff) in empires
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as it stands, controlling your fire at close range yields great results
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM - Thexa4: @flasche, you can add range limitations by falling off to 0
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: range limitation is there but not as pronounced as i think you would like :p
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM - flasche: i know, i once said that it would be great (was before your time tho)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - Ranger: ooooooooooo
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - flasche: sniping with pistols fe is just BS
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - flasche: they just should falloff to 0 rather quickly
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - Ranger: lies
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: pistols are still accurate, but i think not as much as years ago
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - Ranger: youve never seen that revolver with the scope on it?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM - Sgt.Security: I got nothing against that but that's bad news for Grens.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: making those long range snipes either not that long range or just gone
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: grens are fucked anyway
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:19 AM - flasche: rifleman kill superfast
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - flasche: smg can hit super accurate outside range of mortar when prone
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: besides, killing someone at extreme range with a pistol takes a fairly long time, more than enough to get cover and/or reconsider the choice of running across a field
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - flasche: and tanks dont die
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - Thexa4: seems like bf3 also doesn't have range
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - flasche: they have bullet drop
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: except grens are very strong 1v1 because of the mortar's high damage burst
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - flasche: empires barely ever is 1vs1
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and tanks don't die except when they die and then people complain about APCR being crazy strong
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - flasche: and grens dont regularily gang up on tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - flasche: tanks also come in groups
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Sgt.Security: Not really. I mean yes it's not 1v1, but if you recall like 90% of your little skirmishes
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - Sgt.Security: It is 1v1.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the trick is to break up the engagements, its doable at medium pop
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:22 AM - Sgt.Security: aka killing the guy right in front of you when there's no other guy shooting at you.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:22 AM - flasche: when your under siege by tanks and theres 2 rifles with them you can stick your grens up to where the sun never shines
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: neoony is more certified to talk about this than me, but even i turn my gren fights into a series of 1v1s
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and flasche, where is your rifleman support then?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM - flasche: what rifleman support you need 3 grens per tank
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM - flasche: (random number)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if we are talking even playercounts, we have to consider players on both teams
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:24 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: three grens kill a heavy in two volleys
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:24 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and a good few med designs in one to the side
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:24 AM - flasche: on paper
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:25 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you sacrifice your anti infantry capabilities for anti tank capabilities
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:25 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you are behind, you have to cut corners to catch up, assuming even skill
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:25 AM - flasche: im surprised how that works out in bf where you only have 2-3 tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:25 AM - flasche: and you can kill a tank with 2 shots
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:25 AM - flasche: given a tank can wipe a squad with a single shot
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:26 AM - flasche: i know how that works
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:26 AM - flasche: you just cant charge into the enemy without support
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Sgt.Security: If, say, you want me to pick "a tank and 2 rifleman" vs "a tank and 2 grenadiers", I would pick latter.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:26 AM - flasche: thats the difference
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: tank locks down rifles big time, grens keep tank far away or dead
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - flasche: all on paper
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - flasche: or in the random 2 games where it actually works out
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - Sgt.Security: I am drawing right on your paper.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course, and on paper you cant charge an enemy line without support either
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - flasche: 2 out of 100
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:27 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: mines, enemy tanks, rpgs
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Sgt.Security: flasche: when your under siege by tanks and theres 2 rifles with them you can stick your grens up to where the sun never shines
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:28 AM - flasche: mines?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:28 AM - Ranger: and trains
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:28 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: preplaced mine stacks that you charge past or into when, well, charging
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:28 AM - flasche: well thats how the game appears to me
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: its all about tanks tanks and tanks again
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to that i say, yes and no
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:29 AM - flasche: and thats because tanks are just so much better than any infantry
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes becsu
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: they drive like racecars
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - Ranger: except ironman
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: they dish out damage like there is no tomorrow
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes because games do tend to come down to mass tank fights
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: they are invulnerable to small arms
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: they take a lot of damage from any source
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - flasche: and if shit goes sideways you still can get out
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:30 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and no because i have had the pleasure of woeking with and mispleasure of fighting against frontline engineers and grenadiers
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: or just quickly drive behind cover and repair
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Sgt.Security: Here let me shorten the problem : HE cannon.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when someone plays second fiddle to the frontline tanks and focuses purely on support, the force becomes much more intimidating
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:31 AM - flasche: engineers? oh thats those guys that leave those messy shit on my tracks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....what security said.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM - Sgt.Security: Have you tried being in a heavy tank, with dual ranged /DUMG ,against more than 1 grens? Grens are doing their job.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: i barely play anything else than gren
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flaschw, those are the overextending or mispositioned engineers. it's hard to play frontline
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM - flasche: you can make tanks drive back unless their driver is stupid
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: wow so exciting
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM - flasche: i mean its useful in the big picture
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as a lone grenadier you aren't really supposed to solo a tank
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Sgt.Security: Grens should not rekt tanks. I'll give you the conclusion first.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM - Sgt.Security: They should hurt tanks, kinda badly as well, but not "rekt".
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what you can do is help your tanks by landing critical shots from a slightly different angle
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: yeah thats how RPGs are built
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: to scare tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: not to take them out
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - Sgt.Security: If grens can rekt tanks, have fun with people not bothering with map control.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM - flasche: thats where this fancy thing thats called "combined arms" comes into play
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:35 AM - flasche: sure a gren next to your fleet of 6 heavies is nice, but its not what turns the tide
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: and the 3 gren on the other side are a nuisance but thats about ti
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not one player alone turns the tide there
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: i meant it doesnt really matter, what kills tanks are tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: once you ran out of tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: GG
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - Sgt.Security: I have a feeling you'll take everything back in 2.13.2 because grens can actually do things in 2nd seat.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: team doesnt build enough tanks
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM - flasche: GG
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - flasche: tanks? GG
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - flasche: thats empries, tanks, tanks, tanks, tanks, a lot of nothing, tanks, and then maybe infantry
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Ranger: combined arms is a cold war thing i think. modern infantry can rekt tanks, its not like their hopeless, but in empurrs there are limitations. but with code support we could have some modern powerful anti tank weapons. but then "why bother getting tanks?" bullshit
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - flasche: its totally different at the start and thats where the game is nice and fun
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes and no, tanks form a core of your army, yet a skillful supporting infantry force can make or break the fight
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - flasche: later its just a drag
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:37 AM - Ranger: omg i said their instead of they're. it's time for me to die. farewell
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Ranger: seppuku
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: rip renger
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - flasche: modern war is just rockets
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - flasche: not tanks either
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - flasche: precission strikes and the threat of nuclear war
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - flasche: thats modern war
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i will say somethung controversial here, but a good place to practice all this and more is slaughtered
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - Ranger: armies are designed for any situation.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 AM - flasche: unless you fight sheperds
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - flasche: ofc
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Ranger: u dont need to assault sheperds with 50 abrams
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sbend offers a simple corridor of fighting where mechanics are all that matter and big strategies have reduced impact
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - flasche: yeah you fly over with ac130 and shell them from a save spot
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - flasche: or alternatively take them out with helicopters
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:39 AM - Ranger: cheaper
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:40 AM - flasche: or you fire 59 cruise missiles at an airfield
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:40 AM - Ranger: worth it
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can easily practice stuff there, like frontline infantry positioning or target prioritisation
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:40 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: or as you said, practice arty, because its not just holding down left click for ten minutes
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:41 AM - Ranger: its not?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you can't get around needing an amount of tanks in your army, but you can get around needing just tanks. It just takes.....experience
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:42 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh cool 4,5 hours of sleep, i should go now. ciao!
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:43 AM - flasche: gnight destroyer
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - Ranger: gn
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - flasche: but oh well, you know, its just me complaining, im still here after all the years.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - flasche: just ignore it
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - flasche: i will stay here for the next 10 anyway ^^
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - flasche: i just love to hate the game too much
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:44 AM - flasche: :)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: What the hell happened here today?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Ranger: nothing
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - flasche: nothing special tbh
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - Ranger: sgt where r u
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - flasche: just the usual exchange of ideas with random namecalling
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - flasche: welcome to empires
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:45 AM - flasche: :D
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: So all this debating is a norm here?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:46 AM - flasche: from time to time
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:46 AM - Ranger: im proud to say i started this
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:47 AM - flasche: you know when theres people playing for 10 years they start to get ideas on how this and that is supposed to be
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:48 AM - flasche: pretty concrete ideas actually and everyone is convinced he knows better than the other
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:48 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: So what did ya find out at the bugtest yesterday?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:48 AM - flasche: i found out that i wasnt there :S
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:49 AM - flasche: like when security joined the public server i was thinking "fuck there was a bugtest"
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:49 AM - flasche: should have set an alarm
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Neither was I so you're not alone
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:49 AM - flasche: i really wanted to see how that turn speed limits play out
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:50 AM - flasche: bc on that vid kidpaler posted it didnt look so great
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:50 AM - flasche: i mean i know i could just dl the beta and try, but i meant with something to aim at
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:51 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Maybe around Tuesday I'll boot up the beta and see what the changes do
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:52 AM - flasche: i wonder how youll be able to tell i mean you only just play this for a couple of days - no offense meant
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:52 AM - flasche: but i guess it wont hurt to get an opinion from someone fresh
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: None taken, and you're right anyways.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Thexa4: we figured out that lag compensation wasn't enabled after all :(
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Thexa4: we'll retry on the next test :)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh dear
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Thexa4: most people actually liked the rotation
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Thexa4: and preferred the slower one
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM - flasche: dont tell complete that
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM - flasche: :P
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:54 AM - complete_: empires is going to be one slow ass game in 3 years
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Thexa4: doubt it
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: So is the slowed rotation to stop people just snapping their guns to the guy shooting behind them or something like that?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:56 AM - complete_: why cant there just be more games in between the speeds of battlefield and quake is what im saying
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:56 AM - Sgt.Security: NOW, it is to stop people from breaking sound barrier with their turret.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Sgt.Security: To be fair you can still "snap to the guy" behind you.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Sgt.Security: Not instantly but not really much slower than what it was like.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM - complete_: its the same as before except now you're picking up your mouse 3 more times
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM - Sgt.Security: How? I mean turret follows your mouse, not the other way around.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:58 AM - complete_: when you reach the end of your desk you have to pick up your mouse and put it back to the other side
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:58 AM - complete_: to keep going
    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:59 AM - Ranger: you dont have ninja mouse skills
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Thexa4: complete_: your mouse speed isn't influenced by the rotation change, only the speec at which it tracks the center of your screen
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Sgt.Security: You can look behind as usual, I really don't see why you'd have to pick up your mouse more than before.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:00 AM - Sgt.Security: Yes exactly what Thexa said.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Thexa4: it's not the same as 8 years back
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM - complete_: if i understand, i instantly turn my screen around to my back, but the turret takes a while to get to the back?
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Thexa4: yes
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM - Sgt.Security: Yes, and at the current speed ,it's really just 0.05 sec or something.
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:03 AM - complete_: ok then. thats much better than what i thought from watching the video. yet i still dont like things being slowed down (i know that the turn speed will be made even lower in future versions. its pretty much a foregone conclusion)
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:04 AM - Thexa4: would be great if you could help us test in the next beta test, last time people reported that it didn't feel slower
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:04 AM - Thexa4: but if it does we can probably do something about it
    Apr 10, 2017 at 1:06 AM - complete_: would love to but im busy enough that i cant attend league games. let alone bugtests
     
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    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: someone entered the tram with mcdonalds fries and omg do they smell good
    Apr 10, 2017 11:43 AM - Sgt.Security: You are hungry.
    Apr 10, 2017 12:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: damn right i was
    Apr 10, 2017 2:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: who ever thought it was a good idea to make a upper cased i look like a lower cased l should be dragged out to the street and shot
    Apr 10, 2017 2:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's just the commonly used font
    Apr 10, 2017 2:21 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: It still pisses me off
    Apr 10, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: the l is a tad higher then the I -> Il lI
    Apr 10, 2017 4:49 PM - flasche: i leave it to you to figure out which is which :P
    Apr 10, 2017 5:31 PM - Sgt.Security: Does it actually cause any harm tho? When it's alone you know it's I, when it's in a word, l don't think I know a word where ambiguity exists.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:38 PM - Ranger: Illuminati
    Apr 10, 2017 5:40 PM - flasche: its pretty clear in your example ranger
    Apr 10, 2017 5:41 PM - Sgt.Security: lIIuminati, I mean if you exchange capital i into l, it actually becomes a different word with actual meaning.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:41 PM - Sgt.Security: Don't know such word but that's not my language.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:42 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: where are most of ya from?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:43 PM - flasche: not the land where capital letters exist in the middle of a word
    Apr 10, 2017 5:44 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: you mean Scotland?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:45 PM - flasche: https://www.google.at/maps/place/48...4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d48.164435!4d16.279627
    Apr 10, 2017 5:45 PM - flasche: i live about here
    Apr 10, 2017 5:45 PM - flasche: its not precise so none of you comes over and kills me
    Apr 10, 2017 5:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well i wasn't asking for a pinpoint location
    Apr 10, 2017 5:46 PM - Ranger: ancient ancient greek was capital letters only so it was something like ΚΟΙΤΑ ΤΩΡΑ ΤΙ ΕΚΑΝΕΣ ΕΔΩ ΠΑΛΙΟ ΒΛΑΚΑ ΜΕ ΤΑ ΚΕΦΑΛΑΙΑ ΣΟΥ ΑΓΡΑΜΜΑΤΕ ΜΠΟΥΜΠΟΥΝΑ
    Apr 10, 2017 5:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: or a name of a town as well
    Apr 10, 2017 5:47 PM - flasche: its not pinpoint
    Apr 10, 2017 5:48 PM - Ranger: flasche my 59 missiles are flying to area of your given coordinates
    Apr 10, 2017 5:49 PM - flasche: alright i gotta go visit friends see ya later
    Apr 10, 2017 5:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: bye
    Apr 10, 2017 5:49 PM - Sgt.Security: Just a survey, how much deep can you leave your address here while still feeling comfortable?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What do you mean by how much deep?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:50 PM - flasche: given how many people live here i think my relative location is safe enough
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - Sgt.Security: Well how "detailing" it is.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: if id live in unterstinkenbrunn i wouldnt feel as safe
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: but ofc you dont know how far off that pin is
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - flasche: so you cant tell
    Apr 10, 2017 5:51 PM - Ranger: huehuehue
    Apr 10, 2017 5:52 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well i really don't want people to know even what town i live in
    Apr 10, 2017 5:52 PM - flasche: btw unterstinkenbrunn (litterally translates to: under the stinking well) is a 565 village
    Apr 10, 2017 5:52 PM - flasche: vienna has about 2mio people
    Apr 10, 2017 5:52 PM - Ranger: I've given my exact location to 7 steam people and I'm still alive and I haven't been robbed
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - flasche: 565 inhabitants village
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - Ranger: 5 of them are womens
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - flasche: how many came over?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - Ranger: not steam people "internet people
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - Ranger: 2
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - Sgt.Security: I mean, just post it out here, like in this shoutbox, not some sort of private message.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i live on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico
    Apr 10, 2017 5:53 PM - flasche: not bad
    Apr 10, 2017 5:54 PM - flasche: are you going to pay me a visit now security?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:55 PM - Ranger: Do taiwanese take offence if they're called chinese, security?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:55 PM - Sgt.Security: No, I am just wondering if you guys feel safe about throwing your address here.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:55 PM - flasche: i did not
    Apr 10, 2017 5:56 PM - Ranger: It's probably not a good idea as someone might still be stalking the forum.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:56 PM - Sgt.Security: Not really, because a lot of people don't really take the word "chinese" as "china's"
    Apr 10, 2017 5:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i don't really feel safe throwing out my address out here
    Apr 10, 2017 5:56 PM - flasche: i wouldnt publically post my exact adress either
    Apr 10, 2017 5:57 PM - Ranger: But then again, half of us are on social media.
    Apr 10, 2017 5:57 PM - flasche: im the other half
    Apr 10, 2017 5:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i live in the second or third biggest city in poland, and you're not getting more from me
    Apr 10, 2017 5:58 PM - Ranger: How much pop?
    Apr 10, 2017 5:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's my extent of comfort thanks to the lowest common denominator
    Apr 10, 2017 5:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 750k
    Apr 10, 2017 5:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraków
    Apr 10, 2017 5:59 PM - flasche: well i will write down where the killer that soon knocks on my door has it from
    Apr 10, 2017 5:59 PM - flasche: so he at least is brought ot justice afterwards
    Apr 10, 2017 6:00 PM - Ranger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_by_population_within_city_limits that's stupid. Half the pop of greece is in athens and yet it's not in the list wtf hax
    Apr 10, 2017 6:00 PM - Sgt.Security: Is it just me because I can post publicly down to the street that contain like 15 buildings. and if asked privately I can give anyone of you (that I know) my exact location, but only if you are sending my something.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:01 PM - Sgt.Security: me*
    Apr 10, 2017 6:01 PM - Ranger: NVM found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_Europe
    Apr 10, 2017 6:02 PM - Ranger: I don't mind revealing my location privately either
    Apr 10, 2017 6:02 PM - flasche: send you nudes?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:02 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 10, 2017 6:02 PM - Ranger: trade nudes*
    Apr 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Sgt.Security: I guess that's partially because I am on an island, if I am on a continential I would probably be a little more conservative like Destroyer.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i live in this very roughly in this area
    Apr 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: opps
    Apr 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: hang on a moment
    Apr 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Sgt.Security: Especially a kinda "open" continential like EU.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:04 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: here
    Apr 10, 2017 6:04 PM - flasche: oh please you can sleep in on a park bench around here and dont get robbed
    Apr 10, 2017 6:04 PM - flasche: that looks nice cleve
    Apr 10, 2017 6:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was about to call FLORIDA MAAAN and then i zoomed out to check and you're not in florida
    Apr 10, 2017 6:05 PM - Sgt.Security: Come on, Flasche, I can walk out here, 3AM, unarmed everyday, and I can probably do that for months without getting into any trouble, AFAIK this is a privilege on Earth.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:05 PM - Sgt.Security: :D
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - flasche: yeah its the same here
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that large area from Gulf Shores to Spanish Fort is usually called Eastern Shore
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - flasche: i btw walk around unarmed aswell
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't leave my house past sundown
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - Ranger: I can do that too. Cause Piraeus is like an island
    Apr 10, 2017 6:06 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: given from it being the eastern shore of Mobile Bay
    Apr 10, 2017 6:07 PM - flasche: ha now we know the peninsula ranger - we gonna find you and throw a party i warn you
    Apr 10, 2017 6:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche, i'm in
    Apr 10, 2017 6:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's a great holiday place anyways
    Apr 10, 2017 6:08 PM - flasche: we totally should do that
    Apr 10, 2017 6:08 PM - Ranger: I have gud place on coast. there's a beach. and we can go on the roof too, we repaired the railing so you won't fall off, ok
    Apr 10, 2017 6:08 PM - Ranger: roofs are flat here*
    Apr 10, 2017 6:09 PM - flasche: greece is pretty awesome
    Apr 10, 2017 6:09 PM - flasche: its probably also cheap atm
    Apr 10, 2017 6:10 PM - flasche: is there an airport close ranger?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:10 PM - Ranger: Lol wikipedia is retarded. the region of athens is 3.8millions and then the metropolitan of only athens is 4.18m. census of the same year
    Apr 10, 2017 6:10 PM - flasche: oh lol its mor or less part of athens
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - Ranger: there is ye. bus ticket is 5 euros. if ur student or grandpa it's 2.5
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - flasche: yeah i guess theres an airport lol
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - flasche: do i count as grandpa already?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - Sgt.Security: Roofs are flat here too, but last year it actually snowed for a day because a super power cold current strike, I mean it virtually never happens.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - Ranger: grandpa over 66 i think
    Apr 10, 2017 6:11 PM - Ranger: or 67
    Apr 10, 2017 6:12 PM - flasche: damn still a few years
    Apr 10, 2017 6:12 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im already an uncle, does that count?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:12 PM - flasche: flight to athens is not that expensive
    Apr 10, 2017 6:12 PM - flasche: you can be an uncle at 5 aswell
    Apr 10, 2017 6:12 PM - Ranger: you can find the cheapest now i think
    Apr 10, 2017 6:13 PM - Ranger: eurowings (lufthansa) had pretty cheap tickets when i last checked
    Apr 10, 2017 6:13 PM - Xyaminou: lol what, I'm banned from ESB, again?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:14 PM - Xyaminou: can't wait for the stupid reason
    Apr 10, 2017 6:14 PM - flasche: its very dependent on when you fly tho
    Apr 10, 2017 6:14 PM - Ranger: fsb*
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what's that?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah xya is banned from the fsb for pillaging our foodstocks
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: ESB? it's a server administrated by retards.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - Sgt.Security: I'll be economic independent enough that I can fly to anywhere I want on Earth in 2 years, if you are throwing an Empires party let me know
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - flasche: about 200€ tour retour
    Apr 10, 2017 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: who apparently ban people for owning another server.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:16 PM - flasche: i bet you could have that cheaper tho
    Apr 10, 2017 6:16 PM - Ranger: wurm stuff. I actually said "put teh food in the ESB" yesterday to xellos
    Apr 10, 2017 6:16 PM - Ranger: security we will need extra asian booty
    Apr 10, 2017 6:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche, that's manageable for me
    Apr 10, 2017 6:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when are we going
    Apr 10, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: i was looking fri-sun
    Apr 10, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: in august
    Apr 10, 2017 6:17 PM - flasche: vie-ath
    Apr 10, 2017 6:17 PM - Ranger: wait you were talking about austria-greece? you can do with 150-170 back and forth
    Apr 10, 2017 6:18 PM - flasche: yeah i said about 200 but you sure can have that cheaper
    Apr 10, 2017 6:19 PM - flasche: lets have a party at rangers
    Apr 10, 2017 6:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wait are we going
    Apr 10, 2017 6:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i should probably tell some relatives first
    Apr 10, 2017 6:19 PM - Ranger: Depends when.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:20 PM - flasche: yeah we should plan that better than just compulsive shoutbox planning
    Apr 10, 2017 6:20 PM - Ranger: I will be in Italy for a month maybe more, july-august period.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when is the best time to embarrass you in front of everyone?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:21 PM - Ranger: Erm when my parent are here probably
    Apr 10, 2017 6:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: PERFECT
    Apr 10, 2017 6:21 PM - Ranger: I don't have enough beds though so we will need cotton and furs
    Apr 10, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: we just drink for 3 days you pussy
    Apr 10, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 10, 2017 6:22 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i won't be able to come i'm way too busy with school and all
    Apr 10, 2017 6:22 PM - Ranger: Me too.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:22 PM - flasche: sleeping is for the weak anyway
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Sgt.Security: Wait, where exactly do we fly? I mean August is probably just , right between th etime when I graduate and when I have to work.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Ranger: (I haven't stepped at my uni for 8 months
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im with you flasche on that one
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - flasche: athens security
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Sgt.Security: I would probably go abroad somewhere anyway.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: greece sounds great
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Ranger: SECURITY YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE CHINESE HARBOR AND ALL THE CHINESE SHIPS COMING IN!
    Apr 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Sgt.Security: If I can find a low-cost airline ticket for it, the chance of me going there just went from 2% to like, 50%.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:25 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: ya may have to make a party thread if you guys are planning to carry though with this fully
    Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM - flasche: we better do that in private or everyone and the world show up at rangers
    Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM - Sgt.Security: a non-low-cost airline ticket to Europe would clean my pocket, literally, AFAIK it costs like 1000€, and just economy class.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM - Ranger: 100 vets ready for a massive lan party
    Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM - flasche: yeah its quite a distance
    Apr 10, 2017 6:27 PM - Ranger: yes fucking asia. i wanted to go to malaysia. best i found was 880 back and forth
    Apr 10, 2017 6:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i don't think you can do too much in this regard save for opting for ground/sea travel
    Apr 10, 2017 6:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my uni friend went for a two month trip around asia, spent a few hundred euros afaik
    Apr 10, 2017 6:31 PM - flasche: it sure would be an experience to take the land route
    Apr 10, 2017 6:31 PM - Sgt.Security: wow, low-cost airline knows their shit, you know what, I can find one at 350€, oh and I was wrong about a non-low-cost airline costing 1000€, it's actually like 1500€ now because Euros went down like crazy.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:31 PM - flasche: esp if you go via the middle east :P
    Apr 10, 2017 6:31 PM - Ranger: we should buy a big bus and convert it to autonoous living quarters
    Apr 10, 2017 6:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ranger that'd be a big operation
    Apr 10, 2017 6:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and my midlife crisis is still about 20 years away
    Apr 10, 2017 6:33 PM - Ranger: Alternative we could buy a container ship convertible into a blimp
    Apr 10, 2017 6:33 PM - flasche: i opt for a converted aircraft carrier
    Apr 10, 2017 6:34 PM - flasche: we could farm stuff on deck aswell
    Apr 10, 2017 6:34 PM - flasche: and keep livestock in the hangars
    Apr 10, 2017 6:34 PM - Ranger: flying aircraft carrier? but blimpi not heli
    Apr 10, 2017 6:35 PM - flasche: thatd require a lot of helium
    Apr 10, 2017 6:36 PM - Sgt.Security: brb midnight food time.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can you like, think about plans that don't require thousands of our budgets?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:37 PM - Ranger: We will do it with hydrogen cause we like living dangerously
    Apr 10, 2017 6:37 PM - Ranger: We can be nomads. That's cheap. I can get you donkeys
    Apr 10, 2017 6:37 PM - Sgt.Security: Likewise, also I'd hope it's at least a week, preferably two but that might be too demanding. If it's just 2~3 days I'll really have to wait until I can spend money like that. :P
    Apr 10, 2017 6:39 PM - flasche: thousands? youre cute destroyer, thatd go into the billions
    Apr 10, 2017 6:40 PM - Ranger: Well, living conditions would decrease every day more depending on visitors. You would have to contribute small amounts of gold
    Apr 10, 2017 6:40 PM - flasche: uh if its going to be a week that kills my plans of keeping awake by drinking
    Apr 10, 2017 6:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: thousands of our budgets. I think we'd fit in a few hundred mil
    Apr 10, 2017 6:41 PM - flasche: staying awake*
    Apr 10, 2017 6:41 PM - Ranger: I know that if ur coming from the other side of the world u would want ur mony to pay off. a few days is not enough for sgt
    Apr 10, 2017 6:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i assume we'd sleep 4-6 hours a day
    Apr 10, 2017 6:44 PM - Ranger: I will use my knowledge of business administration and tourism to make this trip.. uh doable/profitable/enjoyable whatever
    Apr 10, 2017 6:45 PM - Sgt.Security: Actually, make sure everyone else's fine with a week tho, because you know, I would be a huge bitch if, say, I somehow can't make it then.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:45 PM - flasche: will you pick us up with signs at the airport?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - Xyaminou: what the hell are you guys planning?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - flasche: i mean i could do a week, itd up the price by a fair bit tho, wed really need a place to live then
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - Avatarix: gay meetup for brenodi fans
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - flasche: party at rangers
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: just one big sign with a bunch of names that make no sense to anyone else
    Apr 10, 2017 6:46 PM - Xyaminou: awkward
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - Ranger: We would have to use public transport
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - flasche: ive never been picked up with a sign from the airport
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - Ranger: I don't have a bus
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - flasche: :S
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - Sgt.Security: So yeah, only plan for a week if all participants are fine with it, aka I am just an addition, if not then just go on with out me, we got a long life anyway.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:47 PM - flasche: i thought thats where your management skills come into play
    Apr 10, 2017 6:48 PM - Ranger: Limited budge. Public transport is good anyway. we have empty buses and a metro but it's a bit more expensive
    Apr 10, 2017 6:48 PM - Ranger: budget
    Apr 10, 2017 6:48 PM - Ranger: Security one could stay as long as they liked
    Apr 10, 2017 6:49 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we could save money by bunking at ranger's place
    Apr 10, 2017 6:49 PM - Ranger: One week as default then one can live after the third day or a week later
    Apr 10, 2017 6:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm totally fine with public transport
    Apr 10, 2017 6:51 PM - Ranger: In that case you would have to donate small amounts of money to make profit so I can remove my parents
    Apr 10, 2017 6:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd just need to be found and recovered at the airport
    Apr 10, 2017 6:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i'm fine with going for a week
    Apr 10, 2017 6:52 PM - flasche: theres some airbnb houses for 6 people on rangers peninsula
    Apr 10, 2017 6:52 PM - flasche: not that expensive
    Apr 10, 2017 6:52 PM - Ranger: In case people that have had disputes in the past come at the party, you will have the opportunity to solve your problems drunk in the living room or in the pit of death which is my yard.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have a whole pit of death?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:53 PM - Ranger: I offer a great variety of melee weapons.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:53 PM - Ranger: Well ye
    Apr 10, 2017 6:55 PM - Ranger: I will also share my knowledge of melee combat lel
    Apr 10, 2017 6:56 PM - flasche: i was just going to say im just happy i have no conflicts with you
    Apr 10, 2017 6:56 PM - Ranger: Is that so? :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Apr 10, 2017 6:56 PM - flasche: ok i dont come
    Apr 10, 2017 6:56 PM - flasche: .scared.
    Apr 10, 2017 6:56 PM - Ranger: Free beer for you
    Apr 10, 2017 6:57 PM - flasche: is grek beer even good?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:57 PM - flasche: but ouzo will do
    Apr 10, 2017 6:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ouzo? Are you trying to kill me?
    Apr 10, 2017 6:58 PM - flasche: i like ouzo
    Apr 10, 2017 6:58 PM - Ranger: Man there's a place. It's a beer store. With local barbarian germanic beer from the netherlands, belgium, germany and many a few more countries. They are very local producation, from monasteries etc. I tried too, they were fantastic. My favourite in general is Paulaner but that one was better
    Apr 10, 2017 6:58 PM - flasche: but yeah probably not the best drink for a whole week
    Apr 10, 2017 6:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my alcohol intake over the past 5 years was a swig of wine and a sip of a drink, i think ouzo would knock me OUT
    Apr 10, 2017 6:59 PM - flasche: yeah but thats different when you are in greece
    Apr 10, 2017 6:59 PM - Ranger: It's a beer stone so prices are lower cause of lower tax. but the dude added some tables so you can actually sit there. it's like cheating the system. but you have to bring your own glass or buy one there
    Apr 10, 2017 6:59 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 10, 2017 7:00 PM - flasche: well i drink from the bottle aswell
    Apr 10, 2017 7:00 PM - flasche: fuck being civilized
    Apr 10, 2017 7:00 PM - flasche: :)
    Apr 10, 2017 7:01 PM - Ranger: Is there anyone who refuses to drink alcohol for any reason?
    Apr 10, 2017 7:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: o/
    Apr 10, 2017 7:02 PM - Ranger: It's ok I have a funnel
    Apr 10, 2017 7:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nah i'll be fine to drink a beer or two but i'm a lightweight.
    Apr 10, 2017 7:04 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: me i guess, i just don't want become an alcoholic
    Apr 10, 2017 7:05 PM - Ranger: kek
    Apr 10, 2017 7:05 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: but im not gonna be there anyways, so drink away
    Apr 10, 2017 7:08 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: but back to being picked up at the airport, just imagine out out of place you would holding a sign with our names which have nothing with each other
    Apr 10, 2017 7:09 PM - Ranger: Probably would give you people my pic, or tell you the colour of my clothes. Or maybe a sign "VETS" or "EMPIRES"
    Apr 10, 2017 7:10 PM - Ranger: And you wouldn't all come at the same hour so there's that
    Apr 10, 2017 7:10 PM - Ranger: or day even
    Apr 10, 2017 7:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: day maybe, but definitely different planes ergo hours
    Apr 10, 2017 7:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can already picture ranger standing there holding a big sheet of paper saying DESTROYER FLASCHE SECURITY
    Apr 10, 2017 7:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and EVERYONE around looks at him funny, newcomers, locals, workers, everyone
    Apr 10, 2017 7:13 PM - Ranger: "destroyer" "security" >ranger arrested
    Apr 10, 2017 7:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: haha
    Apr 10, 2017 7:50 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 10, 2017 7:54 PM - Ranger: I got this. We can fucking rent a place. I found a place not farr from home. Only 90k euros per month
    Apr 10, 2017 7:54 PM - Ranger: Not joking.
    Apr 10, 2017 8:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 90K EUROS
    Apr 10, 2017 8:36 PM - flasche: a place or a palace?
    Apr 10, 2017 8:40 PM - Ranger: looked like an apartment
    Apr 10, 2017 8:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can legit rent an entire apartment for that money why would we want THAT
    Apr 10, 2017 8:59 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: That's $95368.50 in the U.S.
    Apr 10, 2017 9:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we can get a camper and go across the states and back for that money
    Apr 10, 2017 9:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said, my midlife crisis is still 20 years away
    Apr 10, 2017 9:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Ya can afford that?
    Apr 10, 2017 9:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not right now, but i should be working in a few years so who knows
    Apr 10, 2017 9:04 PM - Kidpaler: Dafuq is going on. There is almost more on on a monday then there was on a Sunday.
    Apr 10, 2017 9:04 PM - Kidpaler: SAD!
    Apr 10, 2017 9:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's our midlife crisis plans
    Apr 10, 2017 9:15 PM - Kidpaler: Btw, sometime in the next few days we need to playtest the landing_a2 to make sure it plays well
    Apr 10, 2017 9:15 PM - Kidpaler: I think BE might be a tad OP now, but NF does get arty...
    Apr 10, 2017 9:49 PM - Ranger: I can offer an alternative for Empires party. A house in italy. It's detached, has big enough yard and I would be alone 100% so you can murderob me without a problem
    Apr 10, 2017 10:17 PM - Ranger: cheaper for all EU people and probably US to, but. It's not greek party, no sea and no death pit
    Apr 10, 2017 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: do I can XP if I murder you?
    Apr 10, 2017 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: gain*
    Apr 10, 2017 10:20 PM - Xyaminou: fucking brain derp
    Apr 10, 2017 10:27 PM - Ranger: No but if you murder me in secret you can start a Mafia game. And you will all be trying to figure out who the murderer is.
    Apr 10, 2017 10:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: do you can xp if you murder?
    Apr 10, 2017 10:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya channeling his next dnd character, a 5 intelligence fighter
    Apr 10, 2017 10:29 PM - Ranger: loled
    Apr 10, 2017 10:46 PM - Sgt.Security: Spray and pray.
    Apr 10, 2017 10:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Our governor just got arrested
    Apr 10, 2017 10:47 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Not like anyone cares tho
    Apr 10, 2017 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hahaha
    Apr 10, 2017 10:49 PM - Ranger: all your governors are belong to us!
    Apr 10, 2017 10:49 PM - Ranger: that doesnt make sense :/
    Apr 10, 2017 10:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I don't know if ya heard, but our Alabama governor got into a scandal with one of his aides
    Apr 10, 2017 10:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: He got arrested after he resigned for mishandling his campaign funds with the state's
    Apr 10, 2017 10:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: So I heard
    Apr 10, 2017 10:57 PM - Ranger: alabama is rebooblican or demagocratic?
    Apr 10, 2017 10:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Republican
    Apr 10, 2017 11:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Was democratic, then the parties switch out their ideologies so the south became republican
    Apr 10, 2017 11:03 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ed-to-resign-today-according-to-news-reports/
    Apr 10, 2017 11:04 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Read all about it
    Apr 10, 2017 11:09 PM - Ranger: i will never
    Apr 10, 2017 11:27 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: In other news, my act had developed something called feline idiopathic cystitis
    Apr 10, 2017 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh, great, random cysts for no reason
    Apr 10, 2017 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: idiopathic is one of those words you really don't like hearing as a medical person
    Apr 10, 2017 11:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: probably up there with "malignant" and "palliative"
    Apr 10, 2017 11:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Cat*
    Apr 10, 2017 11:30 PM - Ranger: I wish your cat well. My cat just ate my chicken on my desk while I was taking the trash out.
    Apr 10, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: you dont leave food standin garound with cats
    Apr 10, 2017 11:31 PM - flasche: what oyu expect
    Apr 10, 2017 11:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Some disease that if he is stressed out, he can't piss straight
    Apr 10, 2017 11:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Which is basically what it is
    Apr 10, 2017 11:33 PM - flasche: whats you issue with palliative? i mean sure its shit when one needs that but better than nothing right?
    Apr 10, 2017 11:33 PM - Ranger: I don't mind. I knew she would it . She was already on the desk. She also drinks my water. Not pissing straight is a disease? shit
    Apr 10, 2017 11:34 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: OH LOOK banned from mr x's server, AGAIN
    Apr 10, 2017 11:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Well it's more described as a syndrome than anything
    Apr 10, 2017 11:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the issue with palliative is that it's basically admitting "yeah you're fucked, all we can offer you now is slightly less pain and slightly longer life"
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 PM - flasche: yeh i know
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 PM - flasche: but better than nothing right?
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: At least that's what this paper says
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: like come on, in pulmonary hypertension you literally go and tear up a person's atrial septum to reduce circulatory problems
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's a statement of finality.
    Apr 10, 2017 11:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: again, you mess up somebody's HEART because their LUNGS can't be saved but you want them to live a few extra months
    Apr 10, 2017 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with that note, off to get a shower before that ban i gave myself lasts
    Apr 10, 2017 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lapses*
    Apr 10, 2017 11:38 PM - flasche: well i only heard it in connection with cancer in the final state where they just give you tons of painkillers to suffer less
    Apr 10, 2017 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: on that note*. I remember when i was good at englando
    Apr 10, 2017 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (that's what it boils down to)
    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Well he's not dying, in fact other than watching for bladder blockages, we just have to make he more relived
    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: catnip
    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: and more catnip
    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: tho i wonder if that relieves him
    Apr 10, 2017 11:41 PM - flasche: cats react so differently to it
    Apr 10, 2017 11:42 PM - flasche: our male cat doesnt give much of a shit, he just sits there and sniffs, the femal cat get all crazy
    Apr 10, 2017 11:43 PM - flasche: like she rolls around in it, then suddently jump up, runs around, comes back rolls around in it ahaha its fucking funny
    Apr 10, 2017 11:43 PM - Ranger: ur male cat has probably been doing it for years that why it doesnt affect him
    Apr 10, 2017 11:44 PM - Ranger: true mob lord
    Apr 10, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: theyre brother and sister
    Apr 10, 2017 11:44 PM - flasche: same age
    Apr 10, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: but they only like it dried, we have a few plants on the balcony, they dont care. the strawberries are way more interesting to them
    Apr 10, 2017 11:46 PM - flasche: god alone understands cats
    Apr 10, 2017 11:48 PM - Ranger: my cat eats nachos
    Apr 10, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: our male one loves fries
    Apr 10, 2017 11:49 PM - flasche: its always a struggle to keep him away from them
    Apr 10, 2017 11:50 PM - flasche: when we eat burgers and fries he gives a shit about the patties he only wants fries
    Apr 10, 2017 11:50 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: According to the paper we have to enrich his environment
    Apr 10, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: also noodles
    Apr 10, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: not the pasta, no, noodles
    Apr 10, 2017 11:52 PM - flasche: i mean sauce, pasta are the noodles lol
    Apr 10, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche: is he a single cat?
    Apr 10, 2017 11:53 PM - flasche: can he go outside?
    Apr 10, 2017 11:54 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Yeah he's our only cat and he used to go outside till he started having bladder problems
    Apr 10, 2017 11:54 PM - flasche: maybe its a neighbors cat that causes the stress
    Apr 10, 2017 11:55 PM - flasche: wild guess tho
    Apr 10, 2017 11:55 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: So he has access to half the house and is fed special food that cost a bit
    Apr 10, 2017 11:55 PM - Ranger: Activate the banhammer
    Apr 10, 2017 11:56 PM - flasche: we only feed decent food, not that shit you get in supermarkets
    Apr 10, 2017 11:57 PM - flasche: i mean we dont barf thats too much work, but we buy rather expensive one (but its rediculous really, the few cent more cmon)
    Apr 10, 2017 11:59 PM - flasche: oh barf is german
    Apr 10, 2017 11:59 PM - flasche: its raw feeding
    Apr 11, 2017 12:00 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Well the food is for his bladder, so we have to buy it from the vet
    Apr 11, 2017 12:00 AM - flasche: there are online shops that usually sell the same stuff for less
    Apr 11, 2017 12:01 AM - flasche: at least round here dunno how its over on the other side of the big lake
    Apr 11, 2017 12:05 AM - vipervicki: we have the BARF diet here to in USA
    Apr 11, 2017 12:05 AM - vipervicki: raw diet for dogs as well
    Apr 11, 2017 12:06 AM - vipervicki: i only buy dog food made and soruced in the USA and make sure they were never recalled
    Apr 11, 2017 12:06 AM - vipervicki: anyhting from china does not touch my dog's lips :P
    Apr 11, 2017 12:07 AM - Ranger: racist
    Apr 11, 2017 12:07 AM - vipervicki: lol
    Apr 11, 2017 12:07 AM - vipervicki: well I jsut dont like my dogs poisned..Im funny that way
    Apr 11, 2017 12:07 AM - vipervicki: poisoned
    Apr 11, 2017 12:09 AM - vipervicki: many foods say made in usa and people think its safe but their ingredients come from china and stuff it has to be surced in a good country as well
    Apr 11, 2017 12:09 AM - vipervicki: sourced*
    Apr 11, 2017 12:13 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I think if your dog ate stuff from China, it would be committing cannibalism
    Apr 11, 2017 12:13 AM - flasche: dafuq
    Apr 11, 2017 12:14 AM - vipervicki: ewwwwwwwwwww
    Apr 11, 2017 12:15 AM - vipervicki: when dogs were dieing from dog food it was all sourced from china
    Apr 11, 2017 12:16 AM - vipervicki: i have a friend from CHina and we skype now and then he and told me he wouldnt even eat the meat there
    Apr 11, 2017 12:17 AM - vipervicki: plus china's soil is toxic
    Apr 11, 2017 12:17 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Oh dear
    Apr 11, 2017 12:18 AM - vipervicki: yeah he told me alot of icky stuff about china
    Apr 11, 2017 12:18 AM - vipervicki: i was kind of shocked
    Apr 11, 2017 12:21 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Anyways, what's been happening in empires today
    Apr 11, 2017 12:21 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Fuck me, i got to go
    Apr 11, 2017 12:21 AM - Xyaminou: Memes
    Apr 11, 2017 12:22 AM - Ranger: What happened today in empires?
    Apr 11, 2017 12:23 AM - Xyaminou: Mayhem?
    Apr 11, 2017 12:24 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Brb in 15 minutes or so
    Apr 11, 2017 12:24 AM - Xyaminou: If you want drama ask ESB's admins why they banned me
    Apr 11, 2017 12:25 AM - Ranger: I asked cripert. He doesn't know
    Apr 11, 2017 12:25 AM - vipervicki: mr x wants drama eveidently
    Apr 11, 2017 12:26 AM - vipervicki: as always
    Apr 11, 2017 12:26 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i was banned from x's server
    Apr 11, 2017 12:27 AM - Ranger: didnt u ban urself
    Apr 11, 2017 12:29 AM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 11, 2017 12:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: THE STATEMENT REMAINS TRUE
    Apr 11, 2017 12:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i now smell of flowers so it's a win for me
    Apr 11, 2017 12:35 AM - Xyaminou: I didn't know banning people from my server made them smell like flowers, good to know.
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: It's cause of the butterfly effect
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: get it?
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: butterfly
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: flower
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: effect
    Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM - Ranger: smell
    Apr 11, 2017 12:40 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Wot
    Apr 11, 2017 3:04 AM - vipervicki: UGH! Dead Bat Discovered in Salad Mixes Prompts Recalls From Walmart
    Apr 11, 2017 3:12 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i can smell the flowers too....
    Apr 11, 2017 3:34 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: didn't realise that people are still awake here
    Apr 11, 2017 3:47 AM - Spike: apparently there are
    Apr 11, 2017 3:47 AM - Spike: they*
    Apr 11, 2017 3:47 AM - Spike: its like 4 am here
    Apr 11, 2017 3:58 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: its 9:56 at eastern shore
    Apr 11, 2017 3:58 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: pm
    Apr 11, 2017 4:01 AM - MartinPL: 5:01 am and i sitting here, reading worldbuilding topics and topics about AT tanks for empires and turning out to be Triggered as always :|
    Apr 11, 2017 4:02 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: haven't someone been talking about a tank destroyer for a while now?
     
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    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:05 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: work stopped part way through
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:05 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i have rhinnitis and i hate everything because there is a steady leakage from my nose
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:33 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: perfet time to talk abut commjoust then :D
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:34 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: jk jk so are you thinking of adding random spawn point on top level and also some ppl are complaining about lt vs jeeps so if both team could have jeeps with turbo .... OOOOOOO YAAAA
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what do you mean omplaining vsj eeps
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:37 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: complaining vs jeeps*
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:09 PM - Ranger: LT vs Jeeps...?
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM - Paradox: Ranger you are so dumb
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:12 PM - Paradox: He ment it. Its so obvious
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:14 PM - Ranger: im so dumb omg he meant it. it was obvious
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lel i misread it and omitted "LT", grammar is important but sleep even moreso
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the question still stands, what is the problem with that?
    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:29 PM - Ranger: I said that cause I recalled the "iIl" discussion we had yesterday. It seemed to me you read complained about it instead of about LT
    Apr 11, 2017 at 2:58 PM - Ranger: There's a big fat turtle on the beach infront of my house.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: you have a beach in front of your house ?!?
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Ranger: ye ive mentioned it many times
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Xyaminou: sorry I don't read your twitter
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Ranger: so ye it's either beach party or roof party. both are very gud. i dont use twitter
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Ranger: btw
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM - Ranger: turtle looks dead. time to make turtle shield
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: shouldnt you like, report it or something? might be endangered if its large
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....are turtles even native to the mediterranean? i dont think so
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:20 PM - flasche: seems like
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:20 PM - Ranger: carreta carreta ye
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Ranger: they have certain island where they reproduce
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Ranger: in the both in Ionian sea and in the aegean
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Ranger: ops
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:24 PM - flasche: make sure its dead BEFORE you make a turtle shield
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:24 PM - flasche: theyre endangered
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Ranger: yeye. i know. i've had a school trip to one of the islands where they reproduce
    Apr 11, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: you'll need a weapon to go along your turtle shield
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:25 PM - flasche: i just need to vent this here. i fucking hate source engine its disgusting
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Neoony: its fucking awesome :P
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:26 PM - flasche: its the perfect example of why have it easy if you can have it complicated
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:28 PM - flasche: damn that doesnt make it better either :(
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM - flasche: just looking at this makes me want to throw up
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM - flasche: _each_ gib
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:31 PM - flasche: fml
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Xyaminou: god damn retarded plugin authors...
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Xyaminou: this guy is even worse than the people who don't write documentation for their plugins. This guy's documentation is WRONG.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Xyaminou: like wtf.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Xyaminou: it didn't occur to him to fix the 2 fucking lines... ever...
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Xyaminou: anyway shit should be working now, wouldn't mind having one of you admins on my server test the commands just to make sure.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: on it
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:06 PM - Ranger: Fuck it I will reinstall empires
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: oh god
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Xyaminou: are you sure?
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Ranger: Yes need to stack spec team more
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM - flasche: !ban @spec 0
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Ranger: what's NCEV and UMC
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM - flasche: no commander extend vote
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM - flasche: neoonys plugin
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM - flasche: and some map chooser
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: its the one with runoff votes so if 2 maps get 30% it will hold another vote
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: correct me if im wrong
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Ranger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMC
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Ranger: UMC is clearly Upper Middle Class
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: then its the upper middle class server
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: cant join too bad
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Ranger: Gents only
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:22 PM - flasche: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=134190 ultimate map chooser
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:23 PM - flasche: ultimate!
    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:23 PM - flasche: you only get at lvl6
    Apr 11, 2017 at 7:17 PM - Neoony: its an older version of UMC and cyberkillers version of end of map vote, so that end of vote in UMC works for empires
    Apr 11, 2017 at 7:17 PM - Neoony: just to mention that :P
    Apr 11, 2017 at 7:59 PM - Xyaminou: which technically UMC3 is supposed to support but I never managed to get it working, and don't fix what's not broken.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 8:01 PM - vipervicki: afaik cyberkillers version was broken
    Apr 11, 2017 at 8:01 PM - vipervicki: at least it was when I had viper up and running
    Apr 11, 2017 at 8:01 PM - vipervicki: he remvoed it then
    Apr 11, 2017 at 8:02 PM - vipervicki: district would appear like 3 tiems ona map vote and appear on every map vote..unels he fixed it since then
    Apr 11, 2017 at 8:03 PM - vipervicki: his nomiantions didnt work but i think that he fixed
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Neoony: its odd
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Neoony: the thing that creeper fixed on more updated UMC doesnt work for me, wired, or X
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:03 PM - Neoony: this: https://github.com/Steell/Ultimate-Mapchooser/commit/12167bbac4888db8a2bb9136e704eabcd1e35f14
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Neoony: although there is one odd thing I noticed...mp_winlimit seems to only be a client command, not a server one...in empires...and I seen a lot of functions tied to it in that umc
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:11 PM - Neoony: problem was that it kept thinking that emp is based on timelimit...and plus to that it fired at the very beginning of the round...and that was it
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:13 PM - Neoony: I had an idea that it was because it cant detect mp_winlimit, or even mp_maxrounds...because they are only client commands for some odd reason
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:13 PM - Neoony: but did something change in empires?
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM - Neoony: see what I mean? xD https://i.gyazo.com/5a40c8b52ddf0f574f346f9c8e6aad5a.png
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:39 PM - Ranger: I do not x(
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:40 PM - Neoony: I will only hook the game_end event, if both maxround and winlimit are NOT invalid
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:40 PM - Neoony: So I dont see how this would work for empires
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:42 PM - Neoony: It* xD
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM - Xyaminou: maybe it never did...
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 2017 and rhinnitis is still as annoying as it was
    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: rhinitis*
    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Xyaminou: Deadpires...
    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Xyaminou: so dead I had time to implement per player amount mapexclude
    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: so now there will always be mappool - 2, maps excluded from the vote.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Xyaminou: that should prevent most cases where a map that's been played recently would re-appear in the vote.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Xyaminou: commit if anyone's interested.
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: new humble bundle is pure sex
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you lake SPACE that is
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Ranger: link pls
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: www.humblebundle.com
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: duh
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: www.google.com
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: galciv 2 is awesome for strategy scrubs like myself
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya, you took time to write out the link which is afew characters shorter but wastes time of the other person
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: like, why
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:33 PM - flasche: yeah you should have used lmgtfy :3
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:35 PM - Xyaminou: oh right sorry there https://goo.gl/1Ii8Qi
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's a nice goodnight song. Time to let the goop flow down the gap insteaod of out
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: instead*
    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:44 PM - Ranger: pfft. I only purchase free games from humble bundle!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Where is everyone?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:04 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Servers empty as hell
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:06 AM - VulcanStorm: I'll play for a bit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:08 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Let me know when people start come on
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:11 AM - Kidpaler: It's dead for the day, sometimes you get this where it's just dead
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:12 AM - VulcanStorm: we can make it alive again!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:12 AM - Xyaminou: nope, Empires idead
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:13 AM - Xyaminou: oh hey the new colors I added for NCEV work
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:17 AM - Kidpaler: If it's dead, why did you put up a server?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:20 AM - flasche: *today
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:21 AM - flasche: also kidpaler, your walls, they are disgusting to make
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:21 AM - flasche: like really
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 AM - Xyaminou: why wouldn't I put up a server? it's not like I pay for it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:50 AM - Xyaminou: hmm nvm NCEV colors aren't working properly in all messages :(
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 AM - Xyaminou: I think devs should have a look at why colors aren't working properly in this game
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:46 AM - Kidpaler: Sorry Flasche, but it is 100% necessary!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:46 AM - Kidpaler: also, I think there are much higher priority things than getting colors working
     
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    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:30 AM - Paradox: Like ignoring my teamwork posts
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM - Avatarix: selling cuddles
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM - Lawliet: Hello
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM - Lawliet: I will be able to attend the first League match on Saturday, 16:00 EST.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM - Lawliet: I am unsure of what team to play on.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: Logic says NF
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: Heart says BE
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM - MartinPL: Realism says Spectator
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM - A-z-K: doesnt a league need more than 2 teams
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM - Xyaminou: lol martin
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:48 PM - A-z-K: that like the world series
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:48 PM - Xyaminou: sure A-z-k, let's have 4 teams of 5 players
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:48 PM - MartinPL: It is still unbalanced because spec op plez nerf
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:49 PM - A-z-K: 4 teams? think bigger
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:49 PM - A-z-K: 8 teams. of 2.5
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:49 PM - Xyaminou: 20 teams of 1!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:49 PM - A-z-K: yessss
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:49 PM - MartinPL: that 0.5 is double agent?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM - Xyaminou: lol, yeah.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM - A-z-K: sure... I'm pretty sure i count as 0.5
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM - MartinPL: You are double agent?!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM - A-z-K: .007
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM - A-z-K: james pond
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM - MartinPL: 0.7 litres propably :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM - A-z-K: scout extraordinaire
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:53 PM - flasche: scout league yes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM - flasche: scout league on rainbowroad only
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: about to fail a test {maybe] pray for me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM - MartinPL: Why we still don't have rainbow road map? :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM - flasche: because we only play rainbowroad with 64p and only scouts
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - flasche: anything below 64p is pointless on rainbowroad
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - MartinPL: Oke
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - Xyaminou: I swear I'm gonna do that at some point lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM - Xyaminou: just to troll all those people asking for shitty maps.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:56 PM - flasche: nextmap jeepjoust 64p
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:56 PM - flasche: ftw
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:56 PM - A-z-K: just make a server instance for every map we have
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:56 PM - A-z-K: Choice is best for consumer markets
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM - MartinPL: i see this... Emp_supermarket, just like map choice hub map
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM - flasche: that only works if you have servers where you pay to play
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM - A-z-K: and allow everyone to change the cvars via votes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM - flasche: you need some high price server with a shit map to please sheeples
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM - A-z-K: we all pay to play, with our sanity
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM - A-z-K: i'll give you my last 2 fucks for a decent round of mvalley
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM - Xyaminou: deal
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM - A-z-K: xd
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:59 PM - A-z-K: its a good trade
    Apr 12, 2017 at 1:59 PM - MartinPL: oho... incoming 999+1 ml turrets to weld, oh boy, i'm great scv
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:00 PM - MartinPL: Still waiting for manner radar in enemy base
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:00 PM - flasche: scwhat?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:00 PM - Xyaminou: well technically the commander turret limit is 999
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM - Xyaminou: also just wanna say those limits have been working fine so far
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM - MartinPL: scv is a starcraft game basic worker unit :)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM - A-z-K: you have turrent limit set to 1000?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM - flasche: i actually planned to reach that limit the other day when there were only 4 ppl on the server, sadly the other team ragequitted before i came even close
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:02 PM - Xyaminou: "if you have enough resources to build something, you sohuld be able to."
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:02 PM - A-z-K: lo nice. remember how bent out of shape everyone got with outcast server because they had it set to liek 200
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:02 PM - A-z-K: Bort. Good times
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - Xyaminou: I don't remember that, and half the people are already hating, so who cares.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - A-z-K: i dont suggest anyone shoudl care about anythign ever
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - Xyaminou: during real Empires games you don't have time to exploit the high turret limit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - MartinPL: sounds like a challenge
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - Xyaminou: if it's not a game that's taken seriously, then who cares if you exploit it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM - A-z-K: infact i highly recommend not giving a damn because it doesnt matter at all
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:05 PM - vipervicki: gm azk
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:05 PM - A-z-K: it was wonderful episode where we basically chased a gaming group out of town with burning pitchforks because of their server's turret limit and there was some delicious trolling
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:05 PM - A-z-K: hey vicki
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:05 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:05 PM - Xyaminou: I'm just trying to improve the Empires experience on my server, and even though I'm biased, I'd say it's been successful so far.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:06 PM - A-z-K: Sounds good
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:06 PM - Xyaminou: Well again, I don't remember any of that, but raising the turret limit without lowering the resources would be a bit crazy.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:06 PM - MartinPL: Biased? Only bias existing is Russian bias :P
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:06 PM - Xyaminou: The only reason I raised it is because I fixed the resources.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:07 PM - A-z-K: i cant tell the difference between any servers, pretty much never have been able to besides ping
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:07 PM - A-z-K: its all fun to me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:08 PM - MartinPL: I can tell, in one i can drive almost anything and in another i can't drive anything :P
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:08 PM - Xyaminou: well my server's pretty heavily modified.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:08 PM - MartinPL: Mr X server is best thing in universe and who isn't agreeing is beliving in soviet propaganda :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:09 PM - A-z-K: if it has a cv and i can kill it then its empires. The only thing I can't abide is district before it had a time limit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:09 PM - A-z-K: because it was just 2 hours of getting exploded by neeony or shot by security
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM - A-z-K: and after an hour I started to plan my own demise
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM - Xyaminou: infantry maps on my server are 10 minutes timelimit and bellow 13 players
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM - Xyaminou: the only exception is Atomic
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM - Xyaminou: because it's so beautiful a map you can't not play it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 2:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: still missing nuclear
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: you must really like nuclear
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: objectively good for low pop
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also thanks xya anow i'm listening to rick astley
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:11 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i was about to ask a question about aiming better, but i feel X will go into a typefest if i asked
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: short bursts, crouch wherever applicable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: spray and pray is bad
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: really the general rules don't differ from other games
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:19 PM - Paradox: single fire click
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:19 PM - Paradox: move sprint crouch shoot, cover reload crouch shoot, move sprint crouch cover shoot etc etc
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the bots that are being slowly developed follow a routine of crouch -> aim -> 5 round burst -> repeat until target is dead
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's not applicable in 100% of situations, but their hit pattern is a small vertical line of shots
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as an added bonus the crouching+moving hitbox is smaller than the model so you'll get a low of worse players shooting at your model head but above the hitbox head
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:24 PM - flasche: given the hours destroyer invested in creating nuclear itd be a shame if he didnt like it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:24 PM - flasche: oh we are way more down already
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it fits into the 7v7 bracket perfectly
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:26 PM - flasche: i cant get myself to edit drygulch
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:26 PM - flasche: its like i open hammer, look, and close it again
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:26 PM - flasche: :S
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Ranger: bahah
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: hahaha
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is what it looks like when you are mapping in hammer
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM - flasche: not bc of the map, but because of hammer
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "i should do this"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "...but it's hammer"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM - flasche: yes totally
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM - flasche: i want to add this - oh right i totally forgot that it also requires that - fuck it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: been meaning to make raid more stupid-friendly for a few months now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but it boils down to that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i feel bad for you map makers cause when i'm bored and i open hammer im like " what the actual fuck is going on?"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM - flasche: have you watched kidpalers tutorials?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:30 PM - flasche: while theyre not perfect they should get you started rather quickly
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:30 PM - flasche: (and then come to one of us bc nothing works lol)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: no, but i watched another person's tutorials, so i have a basic idea of what is going on when you make maps
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:30 PM - flasche: nah really, theyre decent - thats just an injoke
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:31 PM - flasche: theyre specifically for empires mapping
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: then again that was for another source game
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:32 PM - flasche: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?threads/i-made-a-mapping-tutorial.20862/
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:32 PM - flasche: thats the thread
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:32 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: thanks
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:44 PM - MartinPL: *reading docs paradox added in topic* Mr. X is french? naaah, not enough french flags in empires, i'm not convinced
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: he's french but he doesn't want to touch hammer
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Xyaminou: french? me? nah, people would know if I were.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: wait what does hammer have to do with being french?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:52 PM - Paradox: Paradox = best player evur
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nothing but if you were to use hammer you'd just put french flags everwhere because why not
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:53 PM - MartinPL: in league topic, mr.x
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh that's because flasche is the #1 guy in brenodians, heil flasche
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Ranger: xellos is beating up my horses to increase his shield skill. 4v1
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: he told me something else in private chats
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know if you're trolling or if you genuinely think I give a shit about my country/flag.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:55 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but that explains a few things
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Ranger: Ye france sux amiirit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: france is a country, I don't give a shit about countries.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Xyaminou: and a flag is just a bunch of colors, doesn't mean shit to me.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Vdragon: France is the best country in the world
    Apr 12, 2017 at 3:59 PM - MartinPL: *is lowering his world war 1 france flag with dissapointment* :(
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Vdragon: a shame the 'muricans can't follow our current elections due to their language handicap, because it's getting even funnier than their
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Ranger: liberté (freedom: blue), égalité (equality: white), fraternité (brotherhood: red) meh. this is the modern possible meaning of the flag. its pretty basic. X is right
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Avatarix: progress report pls devs, i want to know things pls
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Avatarix: also fuck cuntries, just like scunts
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Vdragon: France flag is 1/3 communism, 1/3 america, and 1/3 royalty (some time the white is royalty)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Avatarix: thinks they are cool because k/d
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:07 PM - MartinPL: so it means i'm bad guy here, because i believe in nationality? "Fascist on the rise!"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Vdragon: scary, i'm sure you vote trump
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Vdragon: that mean you'd do a good 'murican
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM - Xyaminou: believing in something doesn't make you good or bad, it makes you human.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: it probably makes you primitive, but other than that, good or bad are totally abstract notions.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:13 PM - MartinPL: "I'm only a human, afterall~"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:13 PM - Xyaminou: much like greedy and selfish people are not bad, they're just primitive, prone to their base instincts.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: as humans we have some very basics instincts, survival, self etc... some people will embrace them, some will chose to move away from them.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Vdragon: what do you believe in Xyaminou?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 PM - Xyaminou: nothing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Xyaminou: belief means that you forgo all evidence and base yourself purely on feelings and instincts.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Vdragon: i don't think so, do you not believe into the value of work?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Vdragon: well that's quite a narrow definition for belief lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Vdragon: because by that most people don't believe in anything
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Xyaminou: belief is quite narrow in fact.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Vdragon: so, do you have proof i am a real human, and not something else? or is that a belief?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Vdragon: or do you even care?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:18 PM - Xyaminou: you're right, I don't care.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - flasche: if you wouldnt be your creator would be a rich man
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Ranger: youre a dragon.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Xyaminou: because it would make no difference to me if you were just an AI
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - flasche: i doubt an ai dev would test you here
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: martin, this forum is full of edge lords and people in just the right age to either be full blown nationalist or absolutely desensitized to national values
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - MartinPL: "I don't care" = thats why there is so much random things in Europe now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - flasche: what does that have to do with age?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Ranger: Meanwhile I fight for the glory of Gondor
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM - Vdragon: lol Martin, you just aren't seeing why they're here
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Vdragon: usually it's a mix of many, many, many compromises
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: people tend to be more extreme when younger and become more level-headed and conservative with age
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - flasche: "Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - MartinPL: i'm 22, when i become a "whatever" kind?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Vdragon: that's not false, but uh, conservatism is an extreme
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM - flasche: athur schopenhauer, geman philosopher
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: ^ what flasche said.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - flasche: arthur*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Ranger: atur
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Vdragon: you know that you can think your country is the best from a few points that are important to you, right?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you take me for a fool?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: conservatism?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:22 PM - Vdragon: because if France elect someone like lepen it won't be the best country anymore
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:22 PM - Vdragon: *conservasionism
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:22 PM - Xyaminou: if only people would move from their petty quarrels and pursue science in the interest of the entire specie
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:22 PM - Vdragon: could also oppose the bits of gerontocracy that affect stuffs right now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Ranger: then you would care about france
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Vdragon: old people voting corrupt candidates
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Xyaminou: wait do you really believe countries can be compared? lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Xyaminou: there are no best or worst
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - MartinPL: Science don't gonna feed you, you know? people needs to farm, make food, take care of cities and other things. World don't end on science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you'd say that france is equal to, say, zimbabwe or uganda?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM - Vdragon: well if you're a pootin fanboy russia sure sound like a nice place
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Ranger: Science= food production
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Vdragon: if people didn'"t need wages to live day to day, many more people would do science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: science litterally is feeding us
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - flasche: and you think farmin has nothing to do with science?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Ranger: Science is everything
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: without fucking science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: uh, yeah, science IS going to feed you.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - MartinPL: Science is researching, not farming
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: 95 percent of the world
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: wouldnt have food
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: how the fuck do you think we have 7 billion people on earth.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: martinpl stop being fucking sstupid
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: science ALONE is not going to feed you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Paradox: seriously
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Vdragon: that's where ur wrong
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 PM - Xyaminou: yeah what paradox said
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's like with "spread isn't real" a couple days ago but in the other direction
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Ranger: Agronomics is a science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Paradox: If you dont see how science has anything to do with feeding the people on this planet, theres no talknig to you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Paradox: you might aswel turn of your computer go live with the amish
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: I thought it was obvious I meant scientific advancements and its implementation everywhere, but apparently not.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: Lol paradox
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Xyaminou: very good reply, I approve.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well, i thought it was obvious i meant "spread IN EMPIRES" but apparently
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Ranger: X to be correct, I think that's technology. Technology is applied.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: ... SEMENTICS
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Vdragon: well technology comes from science, technically
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Xyaminou: nobody cares about semantics or terminology, you get the point of what I said.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Ranger: Yeah just saying
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Ranger: I knew what you meant
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Paradox: technically all you guys are fucking stupid if you are discussing about semantics when we talk about science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hypocritical. You expect people to get your point but you fail to get theirs
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Vdragon: some saying go somethign like 'scientists find how stuffs work, engineer make the stuffs work'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Paradox: all you fucking semantic fucks can suck a dick
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: point is there are only 2 worthy goals in life, scientific advancement and love.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: u wot paradox?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Xyaminou: or well, happiness.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Paradox: U heard me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: each scientific field basically has its universal language
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: words fucking matter
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM - Paradox: not in this case
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - flasche: and i mean unique lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Paradox: Not when half the people here barely understand science and try to be smart
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Xyaminou: yeah no not in this case
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - flasche: but also universal but thats maths :S
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Paradox: by using semantics
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Xyaminou: for instance I knew you meant unique even though you didn't say it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM - flasche: i can has smart?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - flasche: i know all the words, i know the best words, i tell you, so great, wow
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Ranger: Just because people have at least a faint understanding of the importance of advancing in sciences, doesn't mean they're trying to be smart.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Paradox: well you guys barely have a faint understanding the way I See you talk about it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you fail to specify your point and when it is misunderstood you slam on the person that misunderstood it yet don't correct it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Vdragon: do you need understandign to try tho?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Xyaminou: and just so we're clear because you guys really like to go into edge cases even though you understand what i meant, charity can be counted as a scientific advancement because it is providing people with something they did not have.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM - Vdragon: no, that's going toward happiness imo
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM - Xyaminou: I'm sorry D why are you going about blame?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: charity is an acknowledgement of failure as far as i'm concerned
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a sad necessity.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: just fucking scroll up if you fail to see my point
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: only because the world is so fucked up.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's laid out clearly after all
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: you don't have a point, you're trying to assign blame about I don't know what.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Paradox: charity is anti nature
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Vdragon: 'acknowledgment of failure'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: when blame is not even a thing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Vdragon: failure at what?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - Paradox: Charity is basicly helping those who are ment to fail
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM - flasche: ment to fail because of what
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Ranger: That's hoomanity bruh
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: are you really going to go into natural selection paraodx?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Vdragon: inb4 failure of not finding a job
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause you'd think someone who defend scientific advancement would understand that's we've moved away from natural selection
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - flasche: inb4 how does trump fit into that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Paradox: Im just saying charity isnt doing much
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Paradox: im not going into natural selection
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Vdragon: inb4 it's 'murican philosophy
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - flasche: i mean realistically he should be on charity and not president lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: of course not.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Paradox: Im just saying charity is more bad than good
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Paradox: look at the third world
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: in today's world charity is just a mean for someone to make themselves feel better.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - flasche: but thats just because the world is divided up by the wealthy for generations now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Vdragon: inb4 charity is communism
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - flasche: why is the thrid world the third world? because europe went around the globe and fucked everything up
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: and yes it's a way for the rich to donate a mediocre amount of money and wash their hands of it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM - flasche: and "europe"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - flasche: was just using ti for simplicity
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - flasche: wealth is mainly historical
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Paradox: Is the words of Taleb "Become antifragile or die"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Paradox: in*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Vdragon: wealth is obsolete
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Xyaminou: well let's face it the "third world" could have been fixed a long time ago if we acted as a specie instead of acting as countries.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - flasche: you wish vdragon
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: countries are just another way of saying "selfish"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM - flasche: btw the third world is a term from the cold war era wich describes countries not affiliated with either the west or the east block
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: better, it's a way of justifying selfishness.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM - flasche: just saying :3
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I know.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:36 PM - Ranger: Tahnks flasche, I wanted to say that but I was afraid Paradox would scold me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:36 PM - Vdragon: but ayy can't move the wealthy out of world control yet
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:36 PM - Vdragon: or the powerfuls either
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:36 PM - MartinPL: Tell something stupid = so fast responses and huge interest of people guaranteed
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: If you're afraid of paradox you should stay away from those forums entirely, he is everywhere! :p
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Paradox: how does flasche even in the slightest said what you wanted to
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Paradox: holy fuck
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Paradox: also lets get to the point, jekotia is going to be trashed to shit by BE
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Ranger: Do you know what I wanted to say?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - flasche: its because i could have a smart :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: wrong conclusion paradox
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - flasche: sudden input from god
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Paradox: you were talking about the shitty semantics of technolgy and science and then some silly sentence about trying to be smart and faint understanding
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Vdragon: it's funny tho, because apparently, the more advanced humanity get, the more it tends toward global selflessness
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Paradox: Also if you have a faint understanding of anything you probably shouldnt be talking about it.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Vdragon: but it keep getting skipped back by the people in whose interest it isn't
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Ranger: I meant about third world being the countries that didnt take part in ww2
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Ranger: i mean cold war era etc
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: Vdragon, that's because there is no more need to stick together to survive
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - flasche: praise capitalism, but it will eventually overcome itself aswell
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Vdragon: look at europe, it's getting fucked by the usual political and powerfuls classes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: survival has been removed from the game, so no more need to stick together.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Paradox: Pretty fucking sure, there are countries that didnt partake in ww2 that arent third world
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:39 PM - flasche: also we are technologically advance, socially were merely out of the middle ages
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: why bother with other people when you can do it yourself and get all the rewards.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Vdragon: uh, i may actually used a word wrong there
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - flasche: pretty sure thats because the term underwent a change in meaning for the unwashed masses
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Vdragon: on a global scale it actually get AWAY from selfishness
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Vdragon: but it appear to be continually stopped/slowed down because of what you said X
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: to be honest socially we're pretty much the same as 2000 years ago
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM - Kidpaler: Exactly, why bother doing any of this when we can just play Empires. Need I remind you of the saying of the Chatbox? The sacred old words of "Stop chatting. Go play Empires." We should all live by that creed.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - flasche: and even developed, developing and underdeveloped as terms are questioned now as eurocentric
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Vdragon: no, we're not, there's been absolutly huge advance in many stuffs
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: roman Empires, antique greece, they were pretty much where we are socially.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Vdragon: roman Empires, absolutly not
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Vdragon: greece is discutable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - Paradox: Lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - flasche: the aristocracy just less obvious based on birth right (tho its still by means of inheritance of wealth) then it was before
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Paradox: You guys are overdramatizing the social system
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Vdragon: *it's discutable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Paradox: Half the world has social welfare
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Paradox: thats an advancement lightyears ahead of romans or greeks
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - flasche: its just to keep people silent
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Vdragon: what i said basically
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - flasche: its a smart move to counter uprisings
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: debatable is what you're looking for vdragon
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Paradox: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Ranger: THE World would have been better if alexander the great hadn't die that young. He was doing exactly what X wants right now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Vdragon: greeks had other stuffs, but we have caught up to them for some tiems now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM - Ranger: Paradox you're clueless
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Vdragon: yea debatable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Paradox: Lets try and not say stuff that are ridiculously stupid or proven false with a single google search ok
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Vdragon: alright, say what's wrong paradox
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: Well paradox has a point about social welfare
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Paradox: You guys are debating the fact if we are socially advanced compared to fucking greeks and romans
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Vdragon: so i don't have to guess out of 3 or 4 proposition since the possibly wrong messages
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Paradox: how the fuck do you think
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: then again I never studied antique greece so I couldn't say if they had it or not.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Paradox: we are slightly comparisable to them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: everyone has a voting right
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: Paraodox, I'm bored, that's how.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: women can work
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: comparable*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: slavery is abolished in most countries
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: we have bar to none dictators
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: We have worker unions
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: We have all these major improvements
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Vdragon: yep, see what i said about the greeks and catchign up
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: and you say we are still the same as back then
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: uh.. africa has plenty of dictators
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: Catching up???
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Paradox: you are talking about a society without electricity and logistics systems in place
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - flasche: slavery just works differently now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Paradox: and speaking like they would catch up 2000 years of social improvement
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - flasche: :3
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Paradox: how the fuck do you even think you could be right here
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: well 2000 years aren't really 2000 years let's face it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Vdragon: uh, there's been huges setbacks after the greeeks got fucked
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - flasche: also there are still slaves in the meaning of slaves
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: we only evolved socially in the past what 100 maybe 200 years.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Paradox: holy shit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: the other 1800 years were spent going downhill
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Paradox: do you even know anything baout the greeks
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Paradox: I feel like Im talking to vicki about politics
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Vdragon: go on, tell us
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Paradox: she uses these kinds of sentences too
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: lol, at least I admit I don't know anything.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Paradox: Im asking you since you are talking big talk about the greeks
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Paradox: giving no details
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Ranger: Greeks had slaves. One of the reasons they advanced
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Kidpaler: Yea Vdragon, for example pedophilia now isn't socially acceptable. I'm so sad that that was setback /s <--- Sarcasm in case anyone thinks I'm serious.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Vdragon: Kidpaler did you get the context...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Kidpaler: Naw I've been very in and out
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Vdragon: i'm not talking setbacks in the last 100 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Vdragon: i'm talking like 50-200 years after they got fucked
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Paradox: you're talking as if the greeks would have a better social system in place then we hav enow
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: I don't even remember what we started with tbh
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Paradox: if they gotten the time
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: oh wait
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: it was me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: I started this.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: damn
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Vdragon: i'll just quote 'greeks had other stuffs, but we have caught up to them for some tiems now'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - flasche: feel bad now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - flasche: very bad
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Paradox: do you not see how bad of an argument you are using
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Ranger: Women in ancient greek didnt have voting rights and had to stay home. WHore often had more rights than wives because they got the chance to go out and talk shit with men
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Vdragon: here either it's not 50 years, it's like 100-200, even 300 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Kidpaler: MrX, I am offended. You rated me 28/30.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Paradox: you are giving 0 details
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: well that's what you get for asking me what I believe in :p
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Ranger: greece*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - flasche: 10 ave marias and one pater noster and you shall be forgiven xya
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM - Paradox: and using the word "stuff"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Paradox: to prove your ufcking point
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: lol trump
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - flasche: and dotn forget the whip
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - flasche: no fun without whipping oneself
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Kidpaler: and that "rushes too often". I am offended.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Paradox: Can we not debate like a bunch of monkeys talking about politics
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: honestly ratings above 25 don't really mean shit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Paradox: Greeks got set back, ( no specifics ), but you know, they had stuff ( no specifics )
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: because Empires doesn't have enough competitive matches to compare.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - Vdragon: because i can't fucking quote shit on this, i don't wanna spend 1 hour getting a barely including half the stuffs list
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Vdragon: i'm litterally saying we are beyond what they did since ages
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Paradox: If the pre bc egyptians didnt get set back, they wouldve gotten electricity in another 200 years, but you know, they had other stuff. And more stuff
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: let just say humans are parasitic orgaminisms
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Paradox: Having stuff is super nice for a society it makes them find more stuff
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: its is good i a big ice thing pop out from the skies
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Paradox: and do good things
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Paradox: Society would be better if we had more of the stuff and things they had 2000 years ago
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Kidpaler: Can we all just say none of us matter and an asteroid could hit us and none of this conversation would matter so lets stop and bring the discussion back to what Empires is/
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Paradox: Fuck civil liberties
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - flasche: not what parasitic means
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Vdragon: Paradox you're getting retarded
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Paradox: Im talking like you are
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: humans aren't even the biggest parasitic entity that this planet has known
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Kidpaler: Oh wait this is Empires.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Paradox: using stuff and things
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Paradox: and sketchy sentences
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Paradox: proving absolutly 0 points
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: can't remember what it was but a long time ago there was something else that was even worse.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Paradox: I dont even comprehend how you could even even lightly compare the pre christ greeks to us
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - flasche: you dont need for a meteor lazylizard you know, just end yourself
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: trump, that's why we have to go on Mars.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Vdragon: because i'm not trying to prove anything... And you're continually going on stuffs i didn't say, or the actual opposite of what i did say
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Ranger: Paradox
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: because then we can't be wiped out so easily.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: you said stuff a lot
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - flasche: gosh such bullshit makes me angry
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: greeks had stuff
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Kidpaler: Fuck Mars, we need to get to Titan. I want to fly.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Vdragon: well we have stuffs, better stuffs, the greatest stuffs on earth yet
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: which one is Titan? one of the moons of jupiter?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Kidpaler: Yea
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: yeah
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: saturn*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: with not enough gravity to sustain an atmosphere
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Paradox: duno how you wanna live there
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: I can never remember if saturn or jupiter is the gas giant, I'm terrible with names.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Kidpaler: Man, I can't wait till we find an alien species then everyone on earth unites under one banner so we can nuke the fuck out of the aliens
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Vdragon: maybe encelade is better
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: well i have contibueted to socity so much but i will takethe big ice anyday
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - flasche: jupiter is the bigger one
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Kidpaler: Thats my dream.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - flasche: both are gas giants
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - flasche: just end yourself, there really is no need to wait
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:53 PM - Kidpaler: Because, technically, aliens would have 0 rights under any world law (I think?) so we could do whatever we want including launching a giant space armada to wipe them out for not greeting us properly.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: hmm I agree with finding aliens, I agree with one banner, I don't agree with war.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:53 PM - flasche: its very unlikely well ever meet aliens
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: supposedly a society advanced enough to space travel would know war never goes well.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Kidpaler: Shut your mouth, Tyson said theres a good possibility within the next 20 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: oh that reminds me I haven't listened to startalk in a long time
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Kidpaler: Sure it does, gotta fight for planets. Only in this case, we gotta launch nukes to hit em where it hurts
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: we might discover hints for another civilisation, but theyre gonna be out of reach for both us and them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Paradox: pretty sure we're done for if you start attacking aliens
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Kidpaler: That or weaponize asteroids and fling it at them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - flasche: especially not within the next 20 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Kidpaler: We can discover them, doesn't mean we can make first contact
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Paradox: Plz no aliens in my lifetime
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Kidpaler: Either way, I think a "Hello" of 10,000 nuclear warheads is in order.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Ranger: Aliens wouldn't even use their weapons on us. They would use our nukes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: well if aliens reach us we're done for, if we reach alien they're done for.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Paradox: can we just not reach anyone
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: and by reach I mean actually travel there.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - flasche: both very unlikely
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:55 PM - Paradox: just stay on our blue planet
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - flasche: if speed of light is the upper limit everything is too far away
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: of course it's very unlikely
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: well hopefully it won't be
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Kidpaler: Flasche, we can just do jump drives, duh. God, do you even science fiction?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - flasche: if we today find hints for an alien civ they could be extinct already
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: because fuck 95ms ping to the US
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: that's jus terrible.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: how did we get to aliens?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Kidpaler: Actually, it could be theoretically possible but the energy required is beyond our capacity.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Kidpaler: I interjected Major.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i was gone for two hours
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: Cleve, I answered "what do you believe in"
     
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    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: that's how we got to aliens
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Kidpaler: I grabbed the bull by the horns, pulled it out of the pile of shit of philosophy and steered it into another pile of shit about nuking aliens.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Ranger: Lel X
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Vdragon: need more negative mass
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: lol I knew my commander spreadsheet would piss people off :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Vdragon: but that take us back to subject one: the importance of science
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Kidpaler: We just have to figure out how to make a ton of energy all at once and BAM, we can warp around probably if one of the current theories is true
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - flasche: on the other hand its also very unlikely there are no aliens
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - flasche: just because random comment
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: fusion
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Vdragon: yea but it's also very unlikely we will meet them fast
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: cold fusion
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: on a planteray scale
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Vdragon: just use the sun
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: We need a bunch of power on a ship to do a jump
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Vdragon: it's right there
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: basically we gotta figure out how to make stars and harvest energy from them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: so... no
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: If we want to do jumps, we need a bunch of energy all at once on a ship.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: Can't use no damn sun for that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: and then transport/store this energy.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: we need ZPMs!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Vdragon: you don't get it, i mean, use the giant fusion reactor that is the sun, put the ship around it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Acolyte: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Vdragon: don't even need to develop fusion
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Vdragon: 'just' build a ship around the sun
    Apr 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: I know what you said Vdragon I just don't think we should use our own star.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Kidpaler: Vdragon, if you built a ship around it... anywhere you teleport, like another solar system, you'd fuck the gravity up beyond repair.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: but yeah there's already theory about star harvesting stuff
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: I don't remember what it was called
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Kidpaler: you'd be a moving "fuck you" to everything in your path
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Ranger: Science needs moral guidance. Not morals like "hurr should we genetically modify shit to our advantage. hurrr that so unethical". More like morals that motivate to help and turn away self destructive tendencies
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Vdragon: yes, that's what we'd do if we wanted to do anythign early
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - flasche: you mean a dyson sphere?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Vdragon: moving the fuck you to a nighbouring star
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: we'd probably speed up the death of the sun by a million years if we start harvesting it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - flasche: or you mean actual science?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Lazybum: soo many poeple on now, what gives?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Kidpaler: Wat
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: omfg
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: I just typed "harvesting energy from the sun" in google
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Kidpaler: Major, you'd harvest the energy given off by it, not like... actually sucking shit up
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: first link: "are aliens harvesting energy from our sun"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Vdragon: like we could be harvestign asteroid RIGHT NOW if everybody really cared
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - flasche: and out came solar energy
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: WTF
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Kidpaler: It'd still go on as it does, just surrounded by a sphere with solar panels
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: GOOGLE WTF!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Ranger: YES 100%
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Vdragon: but we do'nt 'have' the billions to spent in that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - flasche: you know google search results are personalized
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: xD
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - flasche: wth are u usally searchign for? D:
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:01 PM - Vdragon: but we have the technology for that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - flasche: i think the main problem isnt of monetarian nature
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Ranger: mY FIRST result is wikipedia and then an article "New Technique Could Harvest More of the Sun's Energy | Caltech"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Vdragon: but if we can get all of europe to agree on spending a large budget on asteroid, it could be doable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - flasche: its merely a problem of the energy required
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - Ranger: and then more articles like that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:02 PM - flasche: more of a*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Kidpaler: Vdragon, it aint happening till we have faster transport.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: that's what I was talking about
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - flasche: also i think its a billion times smarter to focus on the problems on earth with currently applicable means
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Vdragon: no it's not
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - flasche: rather then dream about something that may or may not be an issue in 200 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - Vdragon: dreaming is not smarter yes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:03 PM - flasche: bc we wont make it that 200 years if we dont focus on our issues down here
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - Ranger: captin amurika hybernated tho
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - flasche: same with fusion - i hear fusion is around the corner for 20 years now
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - flasche: wher
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - flasche: e the fuck is it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - Vdragon: if humanity in general was less scared of the human and monetary cost of things, we could go and grab ressources from asteroid
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - flasche: i ask you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM - Vdragon: yea, people would die
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Vdragon: fusion has been around the corner for 20 years for 60 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Ranger: the idea was conceived back then so wot. its coming
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Vdragon: we don't need fusion
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Vdragon: we don't need anything new
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Vdragon: we need to have people stop caring about the human cost so much
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Ranger: say that in 50 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Kidpaler: Okay Vdragon, you be first to line up for death
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - flasche: yeah but i dont live long enough to have been told it would be around the corner for 60 years
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Kidpaler: K thx
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Vdragon: well i'll be glad
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Vdragon: if you tell me 'we're launching a fission reactor to orbit, it may fall on your head' i'm fine with that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - flasche: i have though to hear wonderful stories about it 20 years ago already
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - Ranger: The chinese don't care about lives. But now their cities are toxic
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM - flasche: we launched fission reactors to orbit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Ranger: Is that what you're suggesting
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Vdragon: yea, and we don't do it anymore because it's extremely dangerous
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Vdragon: yea, that's what i'm suggesting
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Vdragon: i don't 'care' about ecology, it's jsut a nice bonus
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:07 PM - Ranger: Kek wtf
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Ranger: Dude it's poisoning you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM - flasche: the funnest thing is when they thought itd be smart to use nukes to power rockets
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Vdragon: and if that mean we land on mars tomorrow i'll get poisoned.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM - Vdragon: *, i'll
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM - flasche: it has actually been tested and there is a propulsion system that would work in theory
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Vdragon: project dadealus or something, no?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - flasche: or well its not nukes, but nuclear reactors
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - flasche: its a lot slower than nukes but works by a critical mass
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Ranger: Vdragon is the "the end justifies the means" in human form
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - flasche: forgot how it was called both russians and the states developed systems
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:10 PM - flasche: but they also thought they could use nukes for means of army engineering. there have been plans to use nukes to create impromptu habors and such
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:10 PM - flasche: oh the 50s and 60s
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:10 PM - flasche: great times
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:14 PM - Vdragon: aka when we didn't know the danger of radiations
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Ranger: captin amrika and hulk disagree
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i would think that after what happened in japan, we had a good idea of the dangers of radiation
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: then again to error is human
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM - flasche: infact it was known long before
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:17 PM - flasche: but its not like people in positions to make decisions are the smartest
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:17 PM - flasche: just the most unscrupulous ones
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:17 PM - Vdragon: the accident in japan was fine
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM - flasche: i dont think he meant fukushima
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM - Vdragon: it got kept under control, could have been, much, much worse
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM - Vdragon: oh
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM - flasche: more like hiroshima and nagasaki
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Vdragon: well yea and? it's a weapon, it's mean to be as shitty as possible
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Ranger: not enough huge cockroaches
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - flasche: it was about knowing of the effects of nuclear bombs
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: "accident" my god man. i mean i could see where you got confused but im just dying laughing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - flasche: or actually radioctivity
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Vdragon: well sorry for not thinking as a 'murican Cutler
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Vdragon: they had to do many tests afterwards flasche, because they didn'tr actually monitor shit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - flasche: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - flasche: thats the plans btw
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - flasche: so cute
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - flasche: sry german version
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Vdragon: but that is just stupid lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - flasche: just a tiny bit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Vdragon: that's what i meant by 'ecology is a nice bonus'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Vdragon: doing shit like this doesn't advance toward anything
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:25 PM - Ranger: Still don't get you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Vdragon: it's just to make digging more convenient (and cheaper)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Ranger: Would you maximize production of all factories if you knew this would take a toll on the environment which will in the future have negative effects on humans, wildlife, crops, pastures and forests?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM - Vdragon: not if unecessary
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: we often dont know about the risks beforehand thats a problem
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: when we started buring fossile fuels noone thought it would fuck up the enviroment
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: and some still dont believe it does up till today
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Vdragon: that's what tests are for, guess why we aren't using that digging method still, or why we are moving away from petrol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 PM - flasche: even people who supposedly know better
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:28 PM - flasche: are supposed to*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Ranger: Well scientists often get fundings out of nowhere after publishing their results.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Vdragon: well, no, not really
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Vdragon: actually, not at all
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM - Ranger: Meh
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM - flasche: yeah but the point is, problems often only are noticed once the issue became a real problem
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM - Vdragon: they only get money if it's going to profit someon' directly
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:30 PM - flasche: maybe not for diggin holes with nukes that should be pretty evident to be a bad idea. but then we didnt really know about the threats of radiocativity till the late 40s
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Ranger: Ye but pollution now is taken in consideration and people can visualise the effects over time
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Vdragon: yea, but nuclear pollution especially is taken completly out of proportion
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Vdragon: while greenhosue gas effects are heavily diminished
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - flasche: i wouldnt say so, there also is a shitload of money funneled into keeping the effects low
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Vdragon: usually because companies can't be assed to do stuffs correctly...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Vdragon: we have that exact problem in france
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - flasche: or they are assed to keep the public un- or disenformed
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM - flasche: misinformed* i guess
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM - Vdragon: our 'national' (read, owned partially by the state, mostly controlled by the state-people's personnal interest and investisor's interest)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM - Vdragon: electric company is building a new EPR
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM - Vdragon: they fuckign fail the steel, and don't wanna change it for one meeting the recommendation
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - flasche: areva?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - flasche: thats the french one isnt it?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - Vdragon: almost every complex project blow out the budget because someone cheap out on stuffs, or because they wanna estimate it lower to sell better
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - Vdragon: yea
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - Vdragon: because the rich and powerful gotta get more of them gold and power
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Vdragon: the 'elite' are so rotten it's incredible
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Vdragon: they don't have any idea of what it mean to be from the majority of the people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Vdragon: i mean, i have a friend whose family is 'quie rich'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Vdragon: *quite
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM - Vdragon: always get incredible stories from the tales of hist family
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM - Vdragon: and they always need more, and they need to keep everything fpr themselves
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - flasche: you know i never got why so many keep playing that game
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Ranger: Tell him to organise the first french rebellion of the 3rd millenia
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - flasche: its a quite small minority that is like that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Vdragon: i mean, i'm not even against people having lots of money, it is jsut that the majority of them are so despicable
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - Xyaminou: get off my spreadsheet hippies
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:36 PM - flasche: one to a few hundred thousand
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - flasche: if not less
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Vdragon: of what ? of richs that act like this?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - flasche: portion of the total population
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Vdragon: of richs?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:37 PM - Vdragon: or the total?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - flasche: no of totals
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Vdragon: well, that's where you're wrong
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - flasche: the truely rich are only that many theyre just a handful
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Vdragon: yes, i know
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Vdragon: but that's not the point
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM - flasche: oh thats the whole point about it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Vdragon: not really, that's what i started with, the 'elite'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Neoony: tada
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/6c25af93e3bef7910783eeab5798469d.png
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Neoony: and now we got colors
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Vdragon: we're not talking your local doctor, or even maybe the person owning the factory
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Ranger: NEOONY YOU ARE OUT OF TOPIC
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Ranger: ACTIVATE THE BAN\HAMMER
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Neoony: oh shi... xD
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - flasche: yes i am neither
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Neoony: halp
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Vdragon: we're talking people evoluting into the high spheres, the politics, the people with an 'empire'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM - flasche: yes and those are maybe 1 of a few hundred thousands
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - flasche: if not less
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Neoony: actually you are all offtopic..im talking empires
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Vdragon: Yes! but they weight most of the power and of the money in their hands
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Neoony: ban
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - flasche: why do people keep playing their games, it escapes me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Vdragon: because society is made mostly of fools
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Vdragon: look at america
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Vdragon: hell, look at france
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - flasche: hell look anywhere
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Vdragon: we have the olds mostly voting for someoen criminally condemned
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Neoony: xD
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Neoony: epidemics
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Vdragon: how fucked up is that?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Vdragon: that mean all those people aren't straight in tyheir head enough t oconsider someone crimanally engaged as a bad president
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Vdragon: and they're at least 25 %!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: who are you talking about now?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: macron le pen
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: who?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Vdragon: fillon
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: oh i forgot a or*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: oh fillon was the dude with his wife getting money for nothing?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Vdragon: yea
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: sry i should pay more attention to that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Vdragon: but in the meantime many, many, MANY other illegal stuffs were uncovered
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: like i really should
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Vdragon: it's just
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: politics is a dirty business
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Vdragon: it baffles me
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: if you dig deep enough you probably find dirt on every single one in a higher position
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Vdragon: funny thing is i could extrapolate that if people vote for that guy, they must identify to him to some degree
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Vdragon: would that mean morality is dead for a lot of people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: thats too easy people also vote someone to not for another one
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: strategic voting is a thing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Vdragon: well it's not strategic either
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Vdragon: but anyways, strategic voting shoudln't be a thing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: who do you expect to get into the runoffs?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Vdragon: uh, do you mean the second round?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Vdragon: either macron/melenchon, macron/lepen
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Vdragon: but macron is shit
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: he's only bringing stuffs that didn't work before
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: and telling people to do it more
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: and people believe him
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: i liberetardarian
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: a*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: not really either
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: well
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: just...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: libertarian not liberal
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Vdragon: what the difference? english has weird terms for political stuffs?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - flasche: thats how he is portraid in our news
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - flasche: libertarian is no regulation at best
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Vdragon: eh...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - flasche: small state and free markets will magically solve everything
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Vdragon: well anyways, he's the 'do like germany' kind
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Vdragon: except we see more and more it's failing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: well agenda2000 is working ... for germany
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Vdragon: that's why i think france is one of the best country in the word (not the best, that's just trolling, but i couldn't rank the countries i think are good)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Vdragon: no it's not actually
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Vdragon: it's makign germany like america
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: or rahter for the german economy
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Vdragon: increasing inegalities
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Vdragon: yea
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: not for germans its not true
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Vdragon: it only has been good for the german economy, that's a good way to put it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: agenda2000 is beggar thy neighbor politics
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Vdragon: anyways, because france has maintened a pretty good deal of social equality, social infrastructure, as well as being economically decent
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM - Vdragon: while going through the same stuffs as the other countries, and having all the shit going in a smaller scale by industrials and elites
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: yeah the problem really is the european countries technologically are on the same level. the only competition can be with social standards and worker rights
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Vdragon: thing is, france is not as profitable for enterprise and highly paid people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: but we failed to integrate the eu there
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Vdragon: compared to other countries
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Vdragon: and it's getting fucked in the ass by the way EU work currently
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: the eu as single market could counteract this
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Vdragon: well if a single you mean, the same standarts, yea
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: but we rather think wed be better of with small nations again
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: or "we" a lot of people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Vdragon: eh...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: which is totally absurd
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Vdragon: anyways, thing is we have multiple politics with solutions that may keep the way france is or improve it, while fixing some of that stuffs
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Vdragon: and in front we have racists(lepen), anti-eu (some guy that is fat, fillon, lepen), the same old but once again, also let's be like murica (macron, fillon), and a corrupt monkey (fillon)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: yeah thats europe in 2017 isnt it sad
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: i mean its not so much different in other countries either
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Vdragon: and in the meantime the people with solutions either get fucked because their party are fuckign trators (hamon), are retardedly ass backward (asselineau, communsit party that think like it's 1950), and doesn't have enough people voting for them (melenchon)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Vdragon: hamon got sunk due to his party
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Vdragon: also from behing far too futurist for france (universal income, do you ever see that in 2017?)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Vdragon: melenchon is the only one with some luck to fix some stuffs, but there's too many candidate that appeal to random people with their methods to actualyl counteracts stuffs
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Vdragon: like, lepen is populist af
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Vdragon: has a core base of really active voters
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Vdragon: macron is basically trump bis in the methods
    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Vdragon: (say everything and its onctrary)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Vdragon: and fillon is like a mix of the two methods lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: voting sadly often is a matter of feeling and those feelings get exploited a lot
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Ranger: vote for progressive communist national conservative leftist capitalist party of greece
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Vdragon: i mean, it's so obvious to people with critical thinking that lepen is using populist tactics, and that fillon is too corrupt for anything
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Vdragon: people are driven to macron by 'startegy'
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Vdragon: because the clever people out of the right side of politics can't vote for the two monkeys, so they choose the last one
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM - flasche: with right you mean conservatives?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM - flasche: and not ass backward nationalists
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM - Vdragon: but because it is in their best interest that they vote on the right (like in the direction btw, not 'right' as in it's right) for their sweet money they're driving the rest of the people of france into a wall
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Vdragon: right is conservative, nationalist and related in france
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Vdragon: or soemthing like that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM - Vdragon: the thing is that this election has enormous stakes, because france either go radical left or crash into a wall socially
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM - Ranger: why not both
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM - Vdragon: because no one deserve a bad life
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM - Vdragon: or unhappy life, depend if you consider a good life a unhappy life
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM - flasche: yes go radical left
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM - Vdragon: like i said earlier, the thing is that msot people can't vote radical left
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM - Vdragon: either because they have stupid convictions, can't see the wall coming, or because it is not in their interest
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:07 PM - flasche: the first probably being the biggest hurdle tbh
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:07 PM - Vdragon: and i say that as someone who wouldn't be hit by the wall...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:07 PM - Ranger: are they real radical or like greek radicals
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:07 PM - flasche: like you had a choice ranger
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:07 PM - Vdragon: i'd actually get more money and a better retreat by voting macron or fillon lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:08 PM - Ranger: its hard to believe that anyone has the bawlz to do anything radical these days unless they're insane or someting
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:08 PM - Vdragon: well, the last debate was enterytrainign for that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:08 PM - Vdragon: check out poutou
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:08 PM - Vdragon: he go fucking menaced by fillon of beign sued
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:09 PM - Vdragon: we do have our insane politicians lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:09 PM - Vdragon: but hey're mostly just fun to hear, and sometimes they have good ideas
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:09 PM - Vdragon: or well, radical ideas
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Vdragon: it's jsut that all the one considered 'insane' are on the left side of the political specturm
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:10 PM - flasche: we have insane politicans aswell, theyre just not fun to hear
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Vdragon: because somehow our right side insanes aren't insanes
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Vdragon: (lepen)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:10 PM - Vdragon: at least in the current context
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:11 PM - flasche: i dont really think its sane solutions they propose
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:11 PM - flasche: splitting a more and more split society even more isnt the most rational thing is it?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 PM - flasche: will it better anything?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Vdragon: well if you're from the elite, it's a hella lot of good for you
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Vdragon: that mean you get more power AND more money
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: I used to know Fillon's brother-in-law - he used to drink a lot during the daytime...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 PM - flasche: if youre part of such elite the country and poltiics mean nothing to you anyway
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Vdragon: but a thing i often is, that once you're at the top, it's easy to stay.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Vdragon: *a thing i often say
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:13 PM - Vdragon: (and fillon is a near perfect example)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Vdragon: i can't understand how someoen could vote for him, but it often turns out it is because it is a heavily interested vote
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Vdragon: for fillon it's the old people, the religious peoples
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Vdragon: the richs as well
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM - flasche: i also dont get how people think they can somehow turn back time
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM - flasche: the world wont ever be like 40 years ago
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Vdragon: the old first, because he's appealing to them due to saying he'll keep the retreat high (and kill the youngs but wahtev, no one care bout the youngs, they're lazy)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM - flasche: thats gone for good
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Vdragon: the religious, because he's a ctually pusing religion strongly
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Vdragon: and the riches, because he's from the right side of the political spectrum
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Vdragon: it's just disheartening
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Vdragon: this is litteraly, egoism, ignorance, and greed in action
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: why is religion still a think in 2017 i wont get it
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Vdragon: me neither
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: fucking opiates for the masses
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: why not do opiates right away?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: literally
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: <.<
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Vdragon: because the bible said not to do it :p
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: at least you get a (shitty) high out of them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Vdragon: anyways, look
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:17 PM - flasche: does the bible say that?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:18 PM - Vdragon: you and i, there's something incredibly elistist i can say, but i think has truth: we're both using internet, to discuss in a language that isn't the one we learned growing up
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Vdragon: we're already seeing much further than a lot of people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM - flasche: i are enlightend :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Vdragon: how many percent of the society do you think we represent?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Vdragon: 25 % top ?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Vdragon: i mean, meeting those two criterions
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: is it that bad in france?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: i mean even elderly use the internets in austria
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - flasche: everyone learns english in school
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Vdragon: the combination of the two, not just using internet :p
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Vdragon: look, 99,4 % of frenc kids learn english
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: or 99,6, don't remember exactly
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: anyways, how many could hold a conversation like this?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: yeh i figured it would be about the same
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Vdragon: it's incredibly elitist
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:21 PM - flasche: still dont believe its just a fourth
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:22 PM - Vdragon: well that was a 'maybe', i don't know
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:22 PM - Ranger: Have we been picked for something greater than ourselves?!?!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:22 PM - Vdragon: but we're only seeing a absolutly non representative part of the society in our daily lives
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM - Vdragon: and it tends to be even narrower due to having friends that tend to have opinions matching ours
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM - flasche: i just dont think the internet makes you much more open minded
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM - Vdragon: that's the point...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM - flasche: even if you talk to people from other countries
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Vdragon: it's not the job of the internet to do that
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM - мrвlυeѕĸy: you mean Empires forum isn't a perfect representation of wider society? I don't believe that for a moment....
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Vdragon: but it's not yoru fault for not doing it either
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM - flasche: ofc not i meant as effect
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM - flasche: i also dont get to see a representation of society in my daily life
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - flasche: well i get to see them, but i don ttalk to them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - flasche: usually
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - flasche: we all live in our bubbles
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Vdragon: the point is, we can't understand because we only have few, or none at all, contacts with the kind of peopel that think differently (or depending or harshness, don't have cirtical thinking)
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - flasche: some are more aware of them, others are not
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Ranger: wat u mean. You have seen all kinds of people?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Ranger: Havent****
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Vdragon: and the thing is, we're probably into the 'more aware' group
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM - flasche: seen yes, but not discussed with them
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Vdragon: because of our usage of many stuffs that are uncommon for many people
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM - flasche: i like to believe that, but am i fooling myself idk?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Vdragon: i'd tend to think you're not
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Ranger: wat stuffs are you referring to
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Vdragon: but i can't be sure
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:28 PM - flasche: @Ranger i was refering to you asking whether i have seen all kinds of people or not. yes i saw all kinds of people, but i have not exchanged opinions with them, so idk much about them other than my predjudices
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:28 PM - flasche: where the fuck does that d come from
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Ranger: i was asking vdragon
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Vdragon: and i thought flasch was talking about the 'more aware' thing
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:29 PM - flasche: i was aswell
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:30 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Vdragon: 3-way confusion yay
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Ranger: 3phase confusion power plant
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Ranger: wot
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Vdragon: but the question that stay standing is, if politics are subjective, how can you know, even though you may believe to be of the 'clever' people, that a choice is betetr than another?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM - flasche: i read a lot of news portals forums. i guess thats closest to my knowledge of a representative group
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Vdragon: because everyone believe theur choice is the best
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM - Vdragon: whatever the justification is
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:32 PM - Vdragon: ok gtg it's like 19:30 i should've gotten out of work 1 hour ago
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:32 PM - flasche: actually two one more leftishish and one more conservative. i eventually stop by some alt-right sites to see what the tards think but i cant stand it for long it makes me angry
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:33 PM - flasche: do you at least get payed for our discussion? :D
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:39 PM - LordDz_2: You miserable pricks needs good games that makes one feel shit. LIS is 75% off. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/life-is-strange-complete-season-episodes-1-5/c205fbspz3w8
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:40 PM - LordDz_2: Anyone who doesn't feel shit after playing it is a psycopath
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:40 PM - LordDz_2: So it's a good test for that too
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:42 PM - Ranger: i feel shit after every bad ending in a game.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Vdragon: i feel shit after finishing a book, and anyways i have enough reason to feel shit in life to not eat more shit trhu vidya gaym
    Apr 12, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Ranger: games protect you from the shit of life
    Apr 12, 2017 at 7:03 PM - Ranger: momentarily
    Apr 12, 2017 at 7:45 PM - Vdragon: ergh why do i always want a sport car everytime i watch a sport car video ._.L
    Apr 12, 2017 at 7:58 PM - LordDz_2: Because wanting a water balloon would have been weird
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:26 PM - Neoony: lol, this movie "Split"
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:26 PM - Neoony: Starring: James McAvoy as MrDie and Betty Buckley as Catface XD
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:37 PM - Spike: Mrdie ?!
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:37 PM - Spike: dude you cant say his name
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:37 PM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:40 PM - Neoony: pretty sure we got over not saying his name quite long ago xD
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:41 PM - Spike: yeah....
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:44 PM - Neoony: I only missed the "why you hate us?" in the movie, so I was quite dissapointed :(
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:44 PM - flasche: you just shouldnt say three times it infront of a mirror
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:44 PM - Spike: what was split like anyway is it worth watching ?
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:45 PM - Neoony: absolutely
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:45 PM - Neoony: only joking about it...but it was quite damn good
    Apr 12, 2017 at 8:45 PM - Spike: there doesn't really seem to be any new interesting movies coming out sadly...
    Apr 12, 2017 at 9:20 PM - Ranger: I like that more and more scifi comes out every year.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 9:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: I think there was this scifi last year about how to two astronauts fell in love with each other on the way to mars after their hibernation thing failed
    Apr 12, 2017 at 9:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Basically a more romantic version of Rocketman
    Apr 12, 2017 at 10:38 PM - Ranger: wot. Passengers. They were colonizing another planet. Man woke up. He woke up the woman cause he was lonely and they fell in love later. Repaired the ship, saved 5000 people from disaster then lived the rest of their lives on the ship alone.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: cool, servers went from 20 and 10 to 5 and 2 in the time it took me to shower
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:07 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: well we are back at 7
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:07 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: its dinner time in esast cost
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:09 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: next time dont take shower destroyer might help the servers
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:12 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: the longes i have ever gonw iwth out showr would be 3.5 month in real life
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: Empires, splitting the population everyday
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:13 PM - MartinPL: I don't get it still, just PUG script was launched and everybody just ran away
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: to be honest we lost like 10 people before the PUG plugin was even activated
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: that SoF game was way too long
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: and well, it's midnight, euros going to be, weekdays, nothing unexpected.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: bed*
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: Ranger watching love movies, so cute.
    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: Okay, fine, I watched it too... mostly because it's in space.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 12:40 AM - Ranger: I don't mind love movie as long as they are not stupid. I watched it cause it's in space too.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 12:42 AM - Xyaminou: o/
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:48 AM - Lawliet: Is this league match happening on Saturday?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:13 AM - Spike: late april early may.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:17 AM - Lawliet: Play on Saturday
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:17 AM - Lawliet: You monkey
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:47 AM - Spike: we don't have the players currently
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:47 AM - Spike: and the maps havn't been decided yet among other things
     
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    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:41 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: i feel like i'm the only alabamian who even knows this game exist
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 AM - Kidpaler: Eh probably.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 AM - Kidpaler: Actually...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:48 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: actually what?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:54 AM - Kidpaler: nvm, I was trying to think of someone I know in alabama who plays this
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:54 AM - Kidpaler: Might know one
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: by the way, i've managed to binge watch all of your map tutorials. at least i think they were yours
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: Yes, yes they were
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: I still have to do more, and redo the one on optimization
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: It's meant to be the quick start guide instead of doing what I had to do which was 3 months of learning
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: I condensed it down to about 2 hours
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: It's gotten 3-4 people to start mapping so, moderate success.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:18 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: im bored and tried as hell
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:19 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: tired* fucking hell
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:55 AM - Kidpaler: Pick up mapping and just be bored
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:33 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: more like just tired, hammer is the time equivalent of a healthcare system - no matter how much you dump into it, it still needs more
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcharts.com/app/17740
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: watching the average player counts drop
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: is it exams/midterms/finals/whatever time in the US?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:38 AM - Paradox: its actually still fine ddd, peaks around weekends
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Ranger: ak
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Ranger: azk
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah weekends are good, weekdays aren't though, and that's sad
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:50 AM - Ranger: I've noticed many people in my list are not in a league team yet. Should we invite people? Like usually hopfi plays in events right?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i bet most people don't know about it because they don't care
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:53 AM - Ranger: Don't care about what
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: don't care enough to get involved with the community and be exposed to the news
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: probably for the best tbh
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:56 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this place tends to become a rightful shithole at times
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:58 AM - Ranger: Ye but err most of the community is not on the forums
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:59 AM - Ranger: Do something
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hell no i won't do anything, there's better uses for my time, like reading last week's newspapers
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:10 PM - Vdragon: you guys should advertise on linux stuffs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM - Vdragon: or maybe i should do it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM - Acolyte: YES Invite people!
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:27 PM - Ranger: SMART LINOX PEOPLES
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM - Thexa4: Might want to wait until 2.14, it'll include a patch that might fix the purple texture problem on most maps when playing on linux
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:49 PM - Vdragon: errybody know loonix yoozers are the most cleverest
    Apr 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM - Vdragon: okay
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:04 PM - flasche: i got complaints by someone that the floor texture of drygulch would be mission on linux. i immediately thought it might be because of uppercase latters, but alas there are no uppercase letters anywhere. (well there are, but in a commented line, that shouldnt be an issue right?)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:04 PM - flasche: commented out*
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:06 PM - flasche: disregard, im just stupid, i found the offender. silks folder is uppercase :facepalm:
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:06 PM - flasche: how did i miss that the other day
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:06 PM - flasche: :rolleyes:
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: what's drygulch?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: low-medium pop comm map, single lane, desert theme
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: probably the go-to seeding map now that nuclear and district are out of rotation/gutted
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:13 PM - flasche: i wouldnt recommend play it on med population. but the definition of that may be different
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Thexa4: Yes, the problem is with the Silk folder, among others
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Thexa4: the material files have bad paths in them
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Thexa4: sometimes using caps when the folder is lower case
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Thexa4: mappers are encouraged to test under linux :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM - flasche: its the other way round actually
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Thexa4: for silk ones it's the other way around yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM - flasche: pressing shift is so much work, i only use lowercase
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 PM - flasche: if itd change it to uppercase in the .vmf will it work?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Thexa4: ok, it'll mean that linux players won't be able to play your maps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Thexa4: the vmf doesn't care about casing somehow
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Thexa4: it stores it in all caps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Thexa4: the material definition however does
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM - flasche: i meant vmt sry
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM - flasche: material file
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM - Thexa4: yes, if you change it there it should work
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM - flasche: next time ill just copy everything to a folder and rename it accordingly
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM - flasche: should ppl download shit trice not my problem
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM - Vdragon: i'm actually playing nothing else than empires these day because i'm too lazy to switch back to windows lol, the linux port really is a blessing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM - Vdragon: also it runs better than the windows version somehow
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM - flasche: to bad we cant have people download fixes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM - flasche: id need to recompile the map just for a single fucking file -.-
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:19 PM - flasche: i think ive put cubemaps on it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:19 PM - flasche: damn
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:20 PM - flasche: and actually, if they already have the file, it wont change anythign would it?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:21 PM - flasche: so i also need to rename and replace the material on the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:21 PM - flasche: did i already say how much i "love" source today?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Vdragon: empires port to UE4 when?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:22 PM - flasche: i was going to make destructable walls for trump
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:22 PM - flasche: now i started but fuck me thats too much of an effort
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:23 PM - Xyaminou: I'm confused
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:23 PM - flasche: every gib needs to be compiled seperately. they all need an extra collision model, they all need their origins manually aligned in the qc file
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:23 PM - Xyaminou: okay, so, on emp_palmbay a 1.5 res node outputs 1 resource
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: but on emp_frozensummit a 1.5 res node outputs 2 resource
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: wtf?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Vdragon: because 1.56 and 1.51 ?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM - flasche: he means rounding
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - flasche: but i guess xya has entspy edited it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - flasche: and its 1.5
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: yeah no we looked at the formula with smithy, it's not rounded it's just cut
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: like float to int
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - flasche: typecast
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Xyaminou: yeah that
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: so why is frozensummit different, doesn't make sense
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Xyaminou: fuel was the same as palmbay
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: but when I put on a x2 multiplier on frozensummit it gives 3
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: which means the ref is indeed 1.5
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: is the multiplier rounded then?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: but like
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: magic rounding
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:27 PM - flasche: [​IMG]
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: I need to talk to smithy again...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, if you send me a blender file I can see what I can do to generate it automatically
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:29 PM - flasche: generate the qcs required?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:29 PM - flasche: sure
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Xyaminou: thexa, did you guys change the resource formula recently or something?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:31 PM - flasche: sent you a pm thexa
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:31 PM - flasche: you wont have the textures on the materials, but theyre not required anyway.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:32 PM - flasche: im still wondering why cant trump just use func_breakables?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:33 PM - Thexa4: @x, they didn't change
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:33 PM - flasche: but if it automatically generates the qc's, i could make a lot more gibs without it being a nightmare to set all that up
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, I think looks a lot less 'solid'
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - flasche: atm i have 1 piece of wall, 10 gibs and 10 collision hulls. id require 1 qc for the final wall and 10 qc for all the gibs (and manually add the offsets)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Thexa4: I'm having some problems with my phone atm, will look at it in 10 minutes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - flasche: dont worry i have time
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Xyaminou: oh fuck me
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Thexa4: blender is quite scriptable so I think we can make it easier :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't give 2 res
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Xyaminou: there's a fucking 1 res stuff
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - flasche: there is an exporter for source
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Xyaminou: like on palmbay
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - flasche: but it ofc requires qcs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - flasche: because ancient engine that cant just read fbx files :P
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Xyaminou: that's why it didn't make sense, it's another map with an uncappable flag that gives resources...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Xyaminou: damnit
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM - flasche: thats what happens if you leave resource settings to mappers
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM - flasche: 0 consistency
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Ranger: ban
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Xyaminou: yeah it's pretty fucking stupid
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM - flasche: youd love what i did on provinggrounds. the flags are tied to entities that spawn refinaries off the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, do you have an example of what you want the output to be?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:38 PM - flasche: sec
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:38 PM - flasche: i followed this https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Creating_custom_gibs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:39 PM - flasche: i only started making the first qc for the first breakable
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:39 PM - flasche: and got pissed
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:39 PM - flasche: ill send you bot the qc and the link again via pm
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:39 PM - Thexa4: cool :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: well, I removed it.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:40 PM - flasche: fuck damn thexa i sent you the wrong file
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:40 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:40 PM - Thexa4: the first time?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM - flasche: the other .blend file has only the stuff for exporting in it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Thexa4: do you have the source tools installed?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - Thexa4: ok, looking at it now
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - flasche: thx
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "that's what happens when you leave resource settings to mappers"? Freedom of form?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: complete inconsistent setups
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:45 PM - flasche: in my eyes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, one way to do this without my help would be to set the origins of all the gibs to the bottom left corner, then you can reuse the qc file for all gibs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:45 PM - Xyaminou: "freedom of form"? fuck freedom of form some maps have 3 or even 4 times as much res as others.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because each mapper had a different idea on what was right or wrong regarding this?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: you don't leave gameplay to the artists
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: could it possibly be that the creator had a different idea of what empires resource flow would be?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: that's why there are artists and gameplay designers, 2 very diffrent professions
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM - Xyaminou: it could be, and he was wrong.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: except in our reality you do because almost every single map is an individual project
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: starting from the very core of each map that is the layout all the way down to the resource flow
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM - Xyaminou: well you do what you want if you want to play completely senseless maps, I don't.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....forget i ever wrote here, i'm going back to my hole.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM - flasche: oh i had this glorious idea yesterday i should make that. a king of the hill map where you only get resources if you keep your comm parked on said hill in the center.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM - flasche: almost forgot about it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: there's only so much freedom you can give to people until they fuck it up.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: lol, do it.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: strategy 101: send all your grens to place 9 mines at that hill
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: purpose of the map defeated, the end.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: what you think the concept is flawed? herretic! its glorious!
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: there is only so much that could go wrong with it ...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM - flasche: ... like everything
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Kidpaler: Sounds like a fun concept, make it.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:51 PM - flasche: but we would have yet another map with obscure mechanics wouldnt that be great?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:52 PM - flasche: well maybe i make it only a bleeder if comm stays there
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:52 PM - flasche: and have a constant resource flow so you actually can get tanks
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: oh kidpaler, you walls are TERRIBLE TO MAKE
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: THE HORROR!
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:53 PM - flasche: unless thexa finds a way to automate it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:53 PM - Kidpaler: RIP
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:54 PM - flasche: oh @Thexa4 btw i just figured out. i forgot to add a collision hull for the base mesh <.<
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:54 PM - flasche: but the wall is pretty simple. i think you could use the same model aswell
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Thexa4: I'm really bad at blender, I can move around and make basic shapes but that's about it :P
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:55 PM - flasche: just add the same .smd as for the wall as collision for now
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:56 PM - flasche: its simple enough. it could be a lot simpler, but once you figured an automation process i can do the rest myself
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:56 PM - flasche: but i think witout collision it wont be able to break ^^
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - flasche: it wouldnt be all so much if kidpaler wouldnt want "a few different walls that break differently"
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - flasche: but i can see how that is necessary
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Thexa4: the engine prefers dmx btw
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - flasche: oh does it?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Thexa4: yes, smd is for backwards compatibility
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM - flasche: wont it end up as the same anyway?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Thexa4: dmx is also a faster workflow, you can define materials in blender
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Kidpaler: They dont need to break differently, they just need to look different IE a window or something
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Kidpaler: If you can get them to break the same, that is 100% fine
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: yeah thats enough already kidpaler
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Kidpaler: I just need the impression of breaking
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: setting up that one piece made me want to cry already
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - Kidpaler: :(
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: and its just a PoC
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Thexa4: I'll know tomorrow how easy I can make this
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: thats cool and all
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - flasche: i dont think its needed today anyawy
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: Thexa you should update your VPK list
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Xyaminou: so I can put links on the wiki
    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM - Thexa4: to the vpk?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Thexa4: what do you want me to update them with?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: well there are quite a few maps missing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM - Xyaminou: you should have my archive that I sent you weeks ago
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: but wait thexa, the materials are in the mdl if i compile with smd aswell
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Xyaminou: if not I can always zip what I have on my server again
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: i mean the names from blender
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: ofc it still needs the actual materials as vmt
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - flasche: does it include them somehow?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM - Thexa4: @x, yes, I have the archive but splitting them isn't that easy to do correctly
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, ah, then it probably doesn't change much for you
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Xyaminou: isn't it? didn't you say you have it automated with the .res files?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: @x, yes, but the res files aren't correct most of the time, and the material paths don't have correct casing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Thexa4: the approach I want to take is decompile it, list all material files, models etc in the map, use those for the res file and copy and fix the material file
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: Well I'll send you what I have on my server so you can at least add these. I'm only writing these wiki pages anyhow.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Xyaminou: hmm
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Thexa4: got a proof of concept working
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: right
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Thexa4: but have to automate it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: but doesn't decompile break maps?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Thexa4: I only decompile it to get a list of materials, after that I remove the decompiled version
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Xyaminou: I see
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - Thexa4: so that shouldn't break the bsp
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - flasche: it might. it might not. its a game of chance
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - Xyaminou: well then I'm looking forward to getting those missing materials for blackmountain and research
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - flasche: btw xya i have all mats for blackmountain now
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - flasche: dunno from where though
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:05 PM - flasche: but the foilage is there for me
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM - flasche: its probably the same as on insurrection. at least it looks similar
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: well I can only say good for you :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM - Xyaminou: hmm
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:07 PM - flasche: i could try decompile blackmountain. see how the floor texture is called and what the material file tells me
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:07 PM - flasche: you know what ill do that real quick
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: that would be splendid
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, how hard is it for you to manually find the origins of the gibs and write them in a file?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: oh I meant to ask, you prefer no capital letter to your name right?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Thexa4: you can use mat_info In game I think
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause I added drygulch to the wiki, wasn't sure if I should put Flasche or flasche, I put flasche from what I remember you told me.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:09 PM - Thexa4: mat_debug
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: anyway today's improvement to my server is !mapname (for example !emp_drygulch) opens up the wiki page for the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: which is part of the reason why I'm writing those pages.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Thexa4: cool!
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: still I'd hope someone could make that sourcemod plugin so I don't have to do it manually
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:17 PM - flasche: @xya yes no captitals nowhere
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:17 PM - flasche: also interesting
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:18 PM - flasche: all stuff for blackmountain is pakratted into the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:18 PM - flasche: the detailtype is mvalley
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:18 PM - flasche: whatever this is supposed to tell me :D
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:19 PM - flasche: mvalley has detail sprites?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:19 PM - flasche: but then, mvalley also sounds like they should come with the base game right?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:20 PM - flasche: oh there is a 2nd one
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:20 PM - Kidpaler: I'm pretty sure Mvalley is just broken with detail sprites
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:20 PM - flasche: lostcoast_grass2
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:20 PM - flasche: but i think that should also be part of the main game!?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:25 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, are you on windows?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:25 PM - flasche: yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:25 PM - flasche: bc i use linux paths?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:25 PM - flasche: it doesnt matter for qcs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Thexa4: it's important for the type of solution to make
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM - flasche: oh
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM - Thexa4: if you were on osx it'd be harder for me :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM - flasche: yeah then windows please
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:26 PM - flasche: i should have a copy of OS2 somewhere if you need a challenge :P
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: but that will take me quite a while to find its in some box somewhere in the cellar
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: also its kinda offensive to assume id use apple products :o
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:27 PM - flasche: jk
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:28 PM - Neoony: XD
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:43 PM - Thexa4: @flasche, would you mind if it was a little rough around the edges? Not sure if I have enough time to fully polish it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM - flasche: rough around the edges?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 4:56 PM - Thexa4: will probably have bugs :)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:15 PM - Xyaminou: so, did that decompile of blackmountain work? did you find it?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Kidpaler: Go DL a program called VIDE, you can do it yourself and extract any material
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: how?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: doesn't that just show me what's already in the map?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM - flasche: yes i could decompile it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM - flasche: and i found the materials they are pakratted into the bsp
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM - flasche: the thing is though
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM - flasche: the detail types should be from the basegame anyway
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:30 PM - flasche: also the program to decompile is called BSPSource
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Xyaminou: but if they are "pakratted" into the file and I have no idea what that means shouldn't it have them?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:30 PM - flasche: pakrat is a tool to pack stuff into the bsp
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:31 PM - flasche: and yes you have them automatically ofc bc theyre part of the bsp
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: then again, it has them, so why isn't it using them?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:31 PM - flasche: the detailsprites though seem to be from lostcoast
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:32 PM - flasche: but thats part of the basegame, are we sure its still missing and wasnt it only when there was stuff forgotten in that one patch?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:32 PM - Xyaminou: I just have no idea what you're saying.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:36 PM - flasche: the problem with blackmountain was that there were error signs on the floor texture right?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM - flasche: those are supposed grass and ferns
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:38 PM - flasche: you do that with a parameter called detailtype in the material file
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Kidpaler: Use VIDE
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - flasche: there are 2 detailtypes in the materials on blackmountains groud. one is "mvalley" and the other is "lostcoast_grass2"
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Kidpaler: You can pull out files
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - flasche: i used pakrat
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - flasche: to extract the vmts or i wouldnt know that
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Xyaminou: I used VIDE, it gives me a huge list of stuff which I have no idea which one I need and which one I don't
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Xyaminou: if you know how to do it why don't you do it'd take you a whole of 5 minutes instead of taking me hours.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM - flasche: are you sure the problem even still exists?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM - flasche: thats my whole question
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM - flasche: we played it like 3 days ago and i had all files
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM - flasche: i think the errors might be connected to that one failed patch where it was forgotten to include lostcoast content
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Xyaminou: how should I know? I never had the problem.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM - flasche: so maybe there is no problem anymore afterall?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM - flasche: thats what im trying to say for like 10minutes now lol
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Xyaminou: what it just disappear out of thin air?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Xyaminou: I doubt that.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:42 PM - flasche: no the lostcoast content did get readded
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: i think that was the whole problem with it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: but make a backup copy of your empries folder. redownload empires and connect to your server
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: youll see if it works or not
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:43 PM - flasche: takes maybe 10minutes tops
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:44 PM - flasche: afterwards you can just copy over the backup and its liek before
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: Because, Its better for you to learn how to use the program and I am unable to do it right now and have many other things that need done first
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: Vide lets you extract the materials.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:45 PM - flasche: the thing is vide (or pakrat) alone wont tell you what materials it needs
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Kidpaler: VIDE lists every material/model in the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM - flasche: you first need to decompile the map, open it in hammer, click the floor look at what texture is assigned to it and then get the one from the .bsp
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: You simply just extract the entire materials/models folder from Vide, then put it in the respective locations
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: Its what I did with Landing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: Its how I got all the models/textures the map required
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: the problem was to find out what is missing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: if its paked into the bsp it cant be missing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: Isnt it the detail sprites missing?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Kidpaler: Yea you aint finding that out
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Xyaminou: which is exactly what I said...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Xyaminou: ......................
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM - flasche: lol
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Kidpaler: A decompile wouldn't show you the models missing. Detail sprites are added on compile by someone who compiled it with their own version of the detail.vbsp which wouldn't come with the decompiel
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Kidpaler: maps botched
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:48 PM - flasche: whats the detailtype then?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:49 PM - flasche: in the vmt
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Kidpaler: Something they probably made for that map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Kidpaler: which you can't find out
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: lostcoast_grass2 sounds a lot like lostcoast content though
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:50 PM - flasche: at least to me
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: It probably is, but they probably changed the name of it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: I did that with forestattack.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Kidpaler: I had to change some of the grass/the vmt of the textures used in the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: also, what's cubemap
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: well anyway. all i was saying that it now works for me again and that the whole problem probably was that one patch where the lostcoast content was missing
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: 'cause flasche you were right it's broken on renamed maps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - flasche: its used for reflections xya
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM - Xyaminou: well then maps must have been using the default cubemap
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM - Xyaminou: [​IMG]
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM - flasche: i think as long as there is no cubemaps it uses the skybox as default
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: its palmbay fix
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: ill see if they are identifiable
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - flasche: i think you can remove them with pakrat
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: and then rebuild them
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - flasche: or that other tool kidpaler keeps mentioning (i think its the same as pakrat basically)
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM - flasche: well i think its the files starting with c- followed by something that looks like map coordinates
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - flasche: wonder what the .vhv files are though
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Xyaminou: well I learned that you can have different values for resnodes and flags and stuff without renaming the map
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: seems to be related to shadows
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Xyaminou: so I may just stop renaming the maps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: isnt that what i originally said?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: just overwrite them
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - flasche: no i can say something you keep saying: why noone ever listens to me
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Xyaminou: I don't remember you saying that, but okay
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Thexa4: It's not a good idea to do that, it means that half the population will have a different version
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Xyaminou: no that's my point
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Xyaminou: it doesn't conflict
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Thexa4: People that download it will get either the changed version or the old version depending on which server they connect to
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM - flasche: its true though
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Thexa4: Don't change a map and keep the same name if you don't control the version deployed to everyones computer
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - flasche: but wont that only be a problem on the server side
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - flasche: oh wait
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - flasche: but with fastdl you have different versions
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Thexa4: No, it'll work fine on the server side, but you'll distribute the wrong version to connecting clients
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - flasche: so you can have the original on the fastdl and the modified on the server only
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Thexa4: so if they host a local listening server they host the wrong version
    Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM - Xyaminou: well it's a shitty situation either way
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Xyaminou: "wrong"
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Thexa4: also, if at some point we add indicators on the minimap based on the entities they will be wrong
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Thexa4: so don't do that
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: xya do the shadows also look weird on the _fix version?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Xyaminou: or maybe what I did could just be pushed to be official 'cause I'm fixing the maps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - flasche: prop shadows
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Kidpaler: No, you are making them how you want them
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: define weird? they look the same as far as I've seen
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: i mean the shadows of props
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: bc the vhv files seem to be from prop shadows
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: and they also are in a folder named differently as the ma
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Xyaminou: what's a prop
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: p
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: palm tress, rocks, ...
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - flasche: models bascially
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:02 PM - Xyaminou: yeah I guess they do
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:02 PM - flasche: now thats a problem
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:03 PM - flasche: oh wait no. they are in no folder lol what did i see previously
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Xyaminou: actually nvm
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:03 PM - Xyaminou: they look the same
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:03 PM - flasche: ill try remove the cubemaps
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:04 PM - flasche: and rebuild them. that is done inengine anyway
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:04 PM - Xyaminou: the shadows don't look like palmtrees on either version
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 PM - flasche: hm
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 PM - flasche: i cant tell if they are working now or not
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:11 PM - flasche: i have no errors in console
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM - flasche: but damn they look ugly with hdr on
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM - flasche: but fixing the cubemaps would require another name or ppl wouldnt download it :D
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:24 PM - flasche: nop
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:24 PM - flasche: doesnt just work like that sadly
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:24 PM - flasche: comes out as weird looking
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:29 PM - flasche: very weird
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Xyaminou: 'kay
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Xyaminou: oh look more splitting of the population. Empires is great.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Paradox: why would people even wanna play lizards server lol
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Xyaminou: beats me.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:56 PM - flasche: why do people wanted to play rainbowroad
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:56 PM - flasche: i mean below 64p
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:56 PM - flasche: with 64 its great :3
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Kidpaler: Does anyone have the original Hobbes map?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Kidpaler: Not Hobbes V2
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:57 PM - flasche: i think i dont even remember it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:57 PM - flasche: is it the one with the bridge?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but it was much smaller than Hobbes V2
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM - flasche: then i might remember it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM - flasche: why would you bring such maps back?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Kidpaler: It was fun in moderation, Rainbowroad kind of reminded me of it
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:59 PM - flasche: there is no moderation in empires
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:59 PM - flasche: we learned that with rainbowroad the hard way
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:59 PM - flasche: cant tell how often that map came up
    Apr 13, 2017 at 6:59 PM - flasche: i have this feeling in this game the dumber the map the better reception it gets
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Kidpaler: Yeap
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:01 PM - flasche: dumb maps and stock maps everyone knows inside out. nothing that requires you to adapt strategies or even come up with your own
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:01 PM - Kidpaler: No, it's not that. It's the fact those are the only maps really ever played
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:01 PM - flasche: then combine that with stacks and you have empries
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:01 PM - flasche: yeh because people are too afraid to lose
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM - Kidpaler: No because people like stuff they are familiar with, so they vote the same stuff over and over.
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:03 PM - flasche: yes because they are neophobic
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:03 PM - flasche: new things hold the option for failure
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:03 PM - Kidpaler: So the problem isn't that they don't like developing strategies, the problem is people just like stuff they already know because it makes them feel more comfortable
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM - flasche: because anything else is more risky
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM - flasche: they dont need to find out stuff themself, it is already established
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM - Xyaminou: people suck
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM - Xyaminou: get rid of them
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM - flasche: by the handful of people not like that
    Apr 13, 2017 at 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: Empires is dead
    Apr 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Spike: :<
    Apr 13, 2017 at 9:05 PM - blizzerd: bring back superlights
    Apr 13, 2017 at 9:09 PM - Xyaminou: bring back superlights mk2
    Apr 13, 2017 at 9:10 PM - Ranger: bring back destroyers and frigates
    Apr 13, 2017 at 9:17 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Apr 13, 2017 at 9:17 PM - Xyaminou: Anvil Carrack when?
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:27 PM - vipervicki: new empires server ..nice i hope no one runs them off
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Paradox: Not a new empires server
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Paradox: they are doing a lan party
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM - vipervicki: in austria..cool
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM - Xyaminou: today's update has been pushed
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM - Xyaminou: removed streetsoffire from the mapcycle 'cause we've had nothing but boring rounds on it recently
    Apr 13, 2017 at 10:56 PM - Neoony: D:
    Apr 13, 2017 at 11:11 PM - Xyaminou: minor thing about NCEV, you should add extending by X seconds instead of just saying extending so people know the increment.
     
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    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:05 AM - Avatarix: @xya were you using old SoF anyway?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:48 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: i have been wondering we need to have the abliy to have same weapon slots for both team so we dont get any unfair advantage over the other or have rebalacning issues
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:48 AM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: HEVEY only
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:26 PM - Xyaminou: is he speaking english?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:41 PM - flasche: next up, we need similar silhouette models to not give one team an unfair advantage - concerns most vehicles.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM - flasche: also 2nd seat hatch for nf apc
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM - flasche: and 4 seats for BE jeeps
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:44 PM - flasche: dont you think that the BE is CNs and NF is MLs was an intentional design decision lazylizard?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:51 PM - flasche: not saying im a fan of asymmetrical balance, but it was made clear multiple times that this is going the route empires is taking.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:52 PM - flasche: infact, as often as that comes up, i think its save to say each and ever devteam made that clear more than once
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:53 PM - flasche: every
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:54 PM - Xyaminou: you say that, but don't you remember Tama wanted to remove asymmetry?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:56 PM - flasche: as said, im no fan of the asymetric approach. not at the rate balance is finetuned at least. i think fevs put too much on them with that. even sides would be a lot easier to handle.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:56 PM - flasche: devs* bloody phone
    Apr 14, 2017 at 12:59 PM - flasche: but the "tama-era" devTEAM also goes down this route. so im not wrong :p
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:27 PM - Xyaminou: oh look 30 players on Empires :p
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:27 PM - Xyaminou: they're organising a secret PUG, RAID!
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:38 PM - flasche: :D
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:39 PM - flasche: oh man a real keyboard, thats something <3
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:48 PM - Paradox: where do you see 30 players on emp
    Apr 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM - Xyaminou: lol on scardybob's server it's all bots, I was joking.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:08 PM - Xyaminou: so, I thought of something to change on my server last night before falling asleep but I can't remember what :(
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:58 PM - Vdragon: btw X i couldn't get your config to work on my server somehow
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:58 PM - Vdragon: i copy-pasted the empires folder in mine, but it didun do nunthin
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM - Xyaminou: what's not working?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM - Xyaminou: hmm weird
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM - Xyaminou: did you paste it in the right place?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM - Vdragon: looked like it, the addons file are in addons for example
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:00 PM - Vdragon: i got in and added myself to admins_simple.ini which appeared to be in the right place
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:00 PM - Xyaminou: can you show me what your empires folder looks like
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:00 PM - Xyaminou: technically you should use admins.cfg
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:01 PM - Xyaminou: so the admins work but not the rest?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Vdragon: http://i.imgur.com/cSm8Pid.png
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Vdragon: no, nothing works
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Xyaminou: oh wait, aren't you on Linux? I don't know if that would work with linux
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Vdragon: well it should lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Vdragon: or wait
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Vdragon: don't tell me you have to compile the plugins for them to work on linux?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 PM - Vdragon: jeez that's probably it
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 PM - Xyaminou: no, but
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 PM - Xyaminou: I think sourcemod/metamod might be different for linux
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 PM - Vdragon: oh vey dll everywhere
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 PM - Xyaminou: http://www.metamodsource.net/
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:04 PM - Vdragon: sorry, somehow thought it worked like KSP
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:04 PM - Vdragon: but stupid me forgot it is not C#
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: pretty sure you only need to download metamod and sourcemod, the rest should work fine
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:04 PM - Xyaminou: http://www.sourcemod.net/downloads.php
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Vdragon: ok
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: so you probably need to re-install Empires Dedicated Server, then install metamod and sourcemod and then you can copy part of what I have
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Vdragon: tbh i did this while beign very tired and got to sleep right afterwards lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Xyaminou: just not the metamod/sourcemod main files
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM - Vdragon: nah i'll just put the bin where they belong and call it a day
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM - Xyaminou: to be honest I didn't think about people being on Linux at all, so meh.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM - Xyaminou: guess I could upload a second branch but I have no way of testing it.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM - Vdragon: well it is important.. it is the used server platform
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM - Vdragon: *the most used
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM - Vdragon: and it is sometimes used for desktop
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Xyaminou: I know
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Vdragon: like i do
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Xyaminou: it's also a pain in the ass
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Vdragon: no it's not
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Vdragon: well, at least less than windows
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Vdragon: or macos... fucking macos... litteral shit
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM - Xyaminou: well duh MAC is shit
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM - Xyaminou: but windows is way less pain in the ass than do-everything-through-command-lines OS
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM - Vdragon: you'd be surprised to find that a lot of operations are faster done through command line
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: you'd be surprised to find I'm not surprised so easily
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: or something
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Xyaminou: and also, nope.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: anyway, today I installed advertisements 0.6 instead of 2.0 and now I have green, lightgreen and default colors.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: it's not as good as having all of them, but oh well.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:10 PM - Xyaminou: if someone smarter than me could take a look at the source code for 0.6 we could probably add more colors.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:12 PM - flasche: youll be surprised that linux also has gui for a lot of settings. you just can do it by editing files and thats where its better than windows
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:12 PM - flasche: also win10 introduced bash because apparently windows is so shit :P
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:13 PM - flasche: that should read linux
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:13 PM - flasche: you btw can do all you can in guis in powershell on windows aswell
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:13 PM - vipervicki: VDRAGON THE SERVER.CFG ON LINUx is called emp_server.cfg
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:14 PM - vipervicki: not server.cfg if thats what you are looking for
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:14 PM - vipervicki: and the linux fiels come with sm and mm
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:14 PM - vipervicki: files
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Vdragon: that's actually wrong...
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Vdragon: well, at least server.cfg work for me
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:15 PM - vipervicki: opps i mean em-server.cfg..got empires on the brain
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM - vipervicki: not really i use the em-server.cfg
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM - vipervicki: thats what got isntalled with linux
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM - vipervicki: on esb
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:19 PM - vipervicki: change the comm vote time and make them different on em-server.cfg and server.dfg and see which the server follows,
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:19 PM - vipervicki: cfg*
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Vdragon: http://i.imgur.com/XAm5jJm.png
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM - Vdragon: the file doesn't even exist -.-
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM - vipervicki: weird thats what installed on the linux os we installed
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM - vipervicki: maybe we are using a different linux
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Vdragon: yes, I am using a archlinux host, with a custom written systemd service file
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:22 PM - Vdragon: so that's probably why it doesn't exist
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:22 PM - vipervicki: yeah
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:23 PM - Vdragon: well anyways looks like everything works now
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:24 PM - vipervicki: in the sourcemod and mm folders are iso as well as dll's so thye have for both
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:24 PM - vipervicki: ok good
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: so did you just add the linux bin files?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Xyaminou: guess I could just add that to the archive
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:24 PM - Vdragon: yea
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Vdragon: actually i installed the linux files for meta and source, then overwritted them again with your config
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:25 PM - Vdragon: i'm probably going to script the few modifications i make and then jsut rely on that for updates
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Vdragon: or i put that in docker
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:26 PM - Vdragon: may be fun
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: right
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: then blogpost about 'dockerizing source dedicated server'
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Vdragon: because it's the cool thing to do :p
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Xyaminou: well I'm glad someone's using my stuff
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Vdragon: btw do you want to be admin on it? i'm probably going to put spike in as well once i get fastdownload setup
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Xyaminou: sure
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:29 PM - Vdragon: or i could just piggyback on your fastdl lol, is that stuff secured?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: I mean, my fastDL is my home connection, so if you have anything better you should use ;)
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Xyaminou: it*
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM - Vdragon: well i do have fiber, but the size of my vps's HDD is quite limited
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Vdragon: but it's probably a better host in every case lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Xyaminou: how limited 'cause it's pretty small really
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Vdragon: http://i.imgur.com/Gzhmxqx.png
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:32 PM - Xyaminou: hmmm lots of numbers, no idea.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Vdragon: /dev/vda1 10287416 8941900 888832 91% /
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Vdragon: 8 gb used out of about 10
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Thexa4: Vdragon, you can piggyback on http://fastdl.empiresmod.com:17739/default/ for testing
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM - Xyaminou: oh wow that is really small.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Vdragon: good thing it's not really for testing lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Vdragon: more for actually doign stuffs with
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Thexa4: you can use it for real stuff, but I can't guarantuee a high uptime yet
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:36 PM - Thexa4: so if you monitor it / don't care you can use it
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Vdragon: yea, nah i'm just going to add 10 gb to the vps, that should work
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:37 PM - Thexa4: ok
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: I should probably point out that everything in this config revolves around having the right maps and .cfg
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Xyaminou: for each maps
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: and as I removed half the official maps it might not work too great with default maps
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: hmm, shit that doesn't work, I had an idea where if there was nobody on the server it'd turn the refinery rate to 0 and therefore disable it
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Xyaminou: but they always output at least 1
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Vdragon: well lol i have to reinstall my vps to get my 20 gb, fuck
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Vdragon: i thought they'd extend the partition for me :<
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Vdragon: but ayy it got double the RAM now too
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Vdragon: i think i'll just dockerize all my shit lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 3:57 PM - Vdragon: does steamcmd work in docker... i wonder
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: yes, it does.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:02 PM - Thexa4: Just pick a 32bit debian / ubuntu template
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Vdragon: why tho? Does it fail with multilib?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Thexa4: you can resize your partition using resize2fs
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Thexa4: no, but it costs double the disk space :)
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:03 PM - Vdragon: not while it's online afaik
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Thexa4: you can do it online with ext3/4
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Vdragon: ayy i have double disk space now tho
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Vdragon: really?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM - Vdragon: well, k, thanks for the tip
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: so I just remembered that refinery_interval doesn't exist anymore
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:07 PM - Xyaminou: except it's still in the default .cfg, might want to remove that.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Xyaminou: to be honest the default server.cfg needs a good look over and update. But I think I said that already.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Lazybum: hmm, i just noticed spike's pug thread but can't add it to the calender. I guess only thread creators can add to the calender?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Xyaminou: https://goo.gl/forms/S5TRi4WU4nknkeoB2
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:09 PM - Xyaminou: there,so I don't have to rate people myself
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: and here for results
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Paradox: I jist gave myself the max
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: nerfed paradox
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Señor_Awesome: * This commander is not yet rated
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Lazybum: fun
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Señor_Awesome: hahaha Lazybum's response
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Xyaminou: I'm trying to use this for my server
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Xyaminou: need serious
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM - Señor_Awesome: Is the Commanders tab your self rated
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Señor_Awesome: as in you rated it, that wording was bad
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Lazybum: oh sorry, but I really don't know how to rate myself, I feel like I play the game differently everytime I play it
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:48 PM - Lazybum: at least my time is accurate
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Lazybum: i have spent 60.5 days playing empires
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Señor_Awesome: Took your hours and converted them
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Lazybum: yeah, though now that i think about it doesn't include the time before steampires
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:49 PM - Lazybum: probably not much though, I had no internet for like 3 years
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Señor_Awesome: 71.9 days for me if I convert my steam time -_-
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Lazybum: whoaaaaa
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Lazybum: and half of it 1v1ing jgf too
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Lazybum: amazing
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Señor_Awesome: basically
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:51 PM - Señor_Awesome: once killed his CV with my CV, bumping at high speed for the final damage... good times
    Apr 14, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Lazybum: i had a good chuckle there, thanks for that
    Apr 14, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Xyaminou: oh so that's what the 60 days means, I was thinking more in years but I guess that works too
    Apr 14, 2017 at 6:49 PM - flasche: i think lazy did inverse rating
    Apr 14, 2017 at 6:51 PM - flasche: he is the anti-paradox
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:14 PM - Xyaminou: trump did you really rate yourself lower than I rated you?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:19 PM - Kidpaler: I never put in my rating
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:20 PM - Kidpaler: If I did I'd have put 30/30 and said "i like to rush"
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:20 PM - Kidpaler: I've been on phone and unable to rate myself
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Xyaminou: so someone else put it
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Xyaminou: fucking dumbasses
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: I just rated myself
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: With exactly what I said
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:22 PM - Kidpaler: Why, what did someone fill me out as?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:43 PM - Sgt.Security: You know here's what I am gonna do, I am gonna fill you all out, 100% guaranteed objective opinions.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:43 PM - Sgt.Security: When I got a little time for it.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:44 PM - Lazybum: i wonder if it's going to be compeletly based on how often we drop armories for you
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:45 PM - Sgt.Security: Clearly.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM - Sgt.Security: I think that's the actual purpose of the form, you fill it out for someone else.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM - Sgt.Security: :cool:
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM - Kidpaler: Idk if I've ever commanded for you Security
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:47 PM - Sgt.Security: You did, not just once I think.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM - Sgt.Security: I am gonna start with my favorite boat.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 8:08 PM - Sgt.Security: Oh and I took your ~ away.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Lazybum: too cruel security, taking away his ~
    Apr 14, 2017 at 8:13 PM - Señor_Awesome: D:
    Apr 14, 2017 at 8:17 PM - Señor_Awesome: Yeah I don't disagree with that rating, I'm pretty much all about pubs and don't take the game very seriously
    Apr 14, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Ranger: OY
    Apr 14, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 14, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Ranger: [​IMG]
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Acolyte: I am a 20 ranking, i'm pissed off,
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Acolyte: Either most other comms should have 4's or i should have more 5's
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Acolyte: When is my building placement bad compared to paradox or Mr X?
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Acolyte: Makes no sense
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Ranger: BAD BAD BAD
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: just rate yourself, stop fucking looking at my rating
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:14 PM - Paradox: cause Im fucking amazing acolyte? lol
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: neither one of you is as good as he thinks.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Paradox: pretty sure I am
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: nah your opinion of yourself is way too high for you to be that good.
    Apr 14, 2017 at 11:48 PM - vipervicki: .
    Apr 15, 2017 at 12:54 AM - Neoony: !
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:27 AM - Thexa4: @
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:42 AM - flasche: _
     
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    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Señor_Awesome: ~
    Apr 15, 2017 at 6:52 AM - Sgt.Security: #
    Apr 15, 2017 at 6:56 AM - complete_: "
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:24 AM - Avatarix: C0CK
    Apr 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM - vipervicki: lol funny guys (except avartrix) I was testing another browser and w/o typing something first I cant see the chat in shoutbox
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:36 PM - Avatarix: funny guys except avatarix...
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM - Avatarix: i could sue your company for that, don't you know?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:39 PM - Xyaminou: try penis next time
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:39 PM - Ranger: No, you can't, because it was in a parenthesis. Article 42 states this clearly.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:44 PM - Xyaminou: should I add a poll for people to rate their commanders?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:50 PM - flasche: with google forme?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:50 PM - flasche: forms*
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Xyaminou: but probably just one question
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM - Xyaminou: something like did you like your commander 1 to 5
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM - flasche: that raises 2 questions
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM - flasche: how you evaluate it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - flasche: and how you care for people not abusing it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: or well, What's your name, what's the name of the commander, how long have you been playing Empires, rate commander 1 to 5, comments
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: I can't stop people from abusing it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: I'll just have to keep an eye on it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - flasche: if one types flasche and the other flache and the third flasch
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - flasche: you cant even automate it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM - Xyaminou: like the current commanders form has already been abused
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:53 PM - flasche: yeah
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:53 PM - Xyaminou: it's either that or someone has to code a plugin with database and everything that uses the last person in the CV
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:54 PM - Xyaminou: and where you could only rate a commander once (that you could modify after)
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:54 PM - Xyaminou: that's a lot more complicated.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:54 PM - flasche: it is indeed
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:54 PM - flasche: google forms would be a lot more complicated for you though i think
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:55 PM - flasche: youll have to manually sort a lot
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:55 PM - Xyaminou: meh
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:56 PM - flasche: well
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:56 PM - flasche: try
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:56 PM - flasche: you can always remove it again
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:56 PM - Xyaminou: yup
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:57 PM - flasche: can you prevent a chat command only to work after round end?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:58 PM - flasche: uh that was nonsensical
    Apr 15, 2017 at 1:58 PM - Xyaminou: no
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:01 PM - Thexa4: You get roughly that behaviour if you don't implement it :)
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:02 PM - Xyaminou: I could do something like delay the mapvote at the end for like 30s and make everyone type it at the end of the round
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:02 PM - Xyaminou: but it'd quickly become annoying
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM - flasche: that wouldnt stop people from typing it tho
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM - flasche: my major concern though would be people living out their passive agressiveness on the form
    Apr 15, 2017 at 2:07 PM - flasche: and ofc the administrative nightmare, but thats something you need to deal with
    Apr 15, 2017 at 4:08 PM - Vdragon: maybe you could just change the URL loaded and add ?commander=<name> into it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 4:15 PM - Lazybum: Honestly don't think anyone is going to give a good rating for how they command, they generally don't have to deal with the results of thier commanding
    Apr 15, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Lazybum: automated stat tracking or end of round/beginning of next round quiz is the only good way to get results
    Apr 15, 2017 at 4:16 PM - Lazybum: both of which have some inherent problems
    Apr 15, 2017 at 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: I think "we'll see" is the general gist of it.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.instagram.com/p/BS6X0jnl7dw/
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:11 PM - Vdragon: is that you lol
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:13 PM - Sgt.Security: "Win rate" "How many upvotes you received" "comm time", that's it, any other fancy shit is not gonna make your shit more accurate.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Neoony: lo, wtf is up with D.D.D. Destroyer and that guy on the pictures he constantly links
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:29 PM - Ranger: It's his boyfriend. Stop hating.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Neoony: im not hating, just asking xD
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Paradox: he might actually be gay, which is fine
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i appreciate beauty in all forms
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i sometimes link things to get reactions
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i got reactions from that link, so mission accomplished
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Neoony: lets everyone share the pictures of our girlfriends to get reactions
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Neoony: oh wait
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Neoony: noone probably has one here xD
    Apr 15, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Ranger: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Apr 15, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Mikleo: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/...ZeXQU_hsXMT1__0evq3bhIVfs3FnxFKdc6ClF2Mkjsnwg
    Apr 15, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Ranger: =O
    Apr 15, 2017 at 7:32 PM - Ranger: Could a Surveys tab be added on these forums? Could be useful for features, development direction, events etc. It could be put next to "Forums Steam Calendar Members Wiki Help"
    Apr 15, 2017 at 7:33 PM - Ranger: Linked to google thing for surveys or something like that
    Apr 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: renger and me sharing a gf uh oh
    Apr 15, 2017 at 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: lesson learned, never react to anything destroyer sends you.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: got it.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:03 PM - Paradox: follow me on instagram for a get out of jail free card
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:03 PM - Paradox: on xyas server or on mine
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:04 PM - Xyaminou: or subscribe to become a VIP only 99.99$ per month to gain a reserved slot
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:24 PM - Ranger: How hard is to add a squad communication channel?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:26 PM - Xyaminou: it's already done
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:27 PM - Xyaminou: by mikleo's plugin
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:27 PM - Ranger: But why not ingame
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:28 PM - Thexa4: It's relatively easy in terms of sending the voice to certain people. What's hard is the UI, doing that correctly takes quite a lot of time
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Ranger: What UI would you need for that? I can only think of the key bind in controls
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:30 PM - Thexa4: 1. There aren't that many keys available around the movement keys and there are no keys available on a game controller.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:30 PM - Thexa4: 2. You need to indicate that their voice is not reaching everyone
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:31 PM - Thexa4: 3. You need to show players somehow the feature exists and how they can use it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM - Ranger: You can indicate their voice is not reaching everyone, with a sound. I think Z,X,C,V are good for communication. V is the current for voice chat I think? C is errr squads. Z,X left free IF I'm not mistaken. How would you indicate to people such a feature? Isn't an announcement enough?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: V is vehicles. Do you even empires?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM - Ranger: No actually sorry I'm confusing games
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:36 PM - Ranger: So X is voice?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:39 PM - Xyaminou: I am voice, yes.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:40 PM - Ranger: Press X to talk
    Apr 15, 2017 at 8:57 PM - flasche: what do you mean with "and there are no keys available on a game controller." thexa?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:00 PM - Thexa4: The feature would be inaccessible if you want to play with a controller
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm going to be that guy, but what do we care about the pleb approach?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:01 PM - flasche: like seriously
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:02 PM - flasche: people playing empires with a controller will have more severe issues in the game than not being able to squadcommunicate
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:02 PM - Paradox: use L
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM - Thexa4: It's quite playable, certainly with a steam controller
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM - flasche: suuuure
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:04 PM - flasche: and im the pope
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:06 PM - flasche: so we account for people wanting to play this with bananas aswell?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:07 PM - flasche: i mean this guy plays darksouls with bananas
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:07 PM - flasche: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/134644768
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah no if you tell me you're basing decisions on people using controllers, that's it, you've lost me.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:44 PM - Sgt.Security: Do you REALLY need squad voice chat? I mean clearly there's are reasons why we have "team chat" and "all chat". I can understand "squad chat" as well, but when it's voice, do you really need it?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:45 PM - Sgt.Security: For squad chat (typing), I can see that sometimes you want your message to stand out, if you are not using a mic.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: security behind you, security there's 2 around the corner, security heal me
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:50 PM - Paradox: what destroyer said
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:51 PM - Paradox: in scrims when Im commander I like every squad to be in a different ts3 channel and then have the important talking points ingame
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:51 PM - Paradox: with this I dont need to use ts3
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: id' still use teamspeak because empires' voice codec sucks
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM - Sgt.Security: Yes I've been through that squad chat thingy, like clearly, that But do you really need that for your regular pub games
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM - Sgt.Security: that's what we did in scrim*
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM - Paradox: it would be nice in regular pubs, cause nowadays I just scream down voicechat which might be annoying for teammates. Like when I have a good teamworking squad I talk so much over voice
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM - ScardyBob: squad voice chat would be very helpful in pugs, where organized squadplay occurs, but its hard to get people in a TS server
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:57 PM - Sgt.Security: Consider this case (and don't tell me it's rare, it's not), you are on one side of the map with a squad that you are not in, they have all this "secret" communications going on.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Sgt.Security: Or, 2 squads together.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: then you are forced to use a more global voice channel which would happen anyways
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's how it works based on arma videos i've been watching
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Kidpaler: Arma breaks it down that you press a button to break up which chat you are in, each designated with their own color
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Kidpaler: Their voice chat is a bit broken, can't really tell which one you are in but it corresponds to whatever chat you are in for typing
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Kidpaler: That COULD be nice
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Sgt.Security: My first example is standing strong though. I am uncertain about whether this feature will actually improve teamplay or tamper team cooperation in a way. There's no reason to keep "hey security there's a guy around the corner" away from someone who's around but not in your squad.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Kidpaler: Well, the only thing I can think of to counter that is a majority of people don't use names when giving callouts. The people they are with they are usually talking to so they say "Hey, behind you"
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: I know if I am working with my fellow squadmates, I dont give name callouts specifically. Someone who hears that could get confused and look behind them
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the question is, should you be out there without your squad in the first place? The idea of squads is to stick together
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also, nothing stops you from talking in the team-wide chat, it's just a separate button
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: knowing what to communicate, when to communicate it, and what channel to use are all part of the game
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well, channel not so much, but the previous two things are the real deal
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Ranger: Also PUGs are how the game is supposed to be played, so making features that support that idea cannot be bad. PUGs have the purpose of bringing people closer to Empires. Adding such a feature would improve the quality of the PUG and therefore make it and the game more enjoyable. As a game that focuses so heavily on teamwork, this is a must have feature, imo.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:35 PM - Xyaminou: ^
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What have missed today?
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:43 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: What have I missed today*
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not much tbh
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: league's delayed but that's it
    Apr 15, 2017 at 10:54 PM - Xyaminou: is it? since we never really gave a date for it.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 11:02 PM - LordDz_2: Well we're gonna pick a date
    Apr 15, 2017 at 11:02 PM - LordDz_2: And then delay that date
    Apr 15, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Kidpaler: It's got to be the best date possible.
    Apr 15, 2017 at 11:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the original plan was late april and late april is not happening soooo yeah i'd say delayed
    Apr 16, 2017 at 12:55 AM - Kidpaler: Oh god, we did homemade chick-fil-a nuggets + szechuan sauce... right now I feel like the average fat american
    Apr 16, 2017 at 12:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm jealous
    Apr 16, 2017 at 1:43 AM - Paradox: szechuan sauce? rickity rick
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:03 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I just added president Donald j trump to my friends list. Should i be worried?
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:04 AM - Ranger: 28-30 april i will be afk so everyone has to wait for next week
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:13 AM - Kidpaler: Das me
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:13 AM - Kidpaler: <--- I'm Trump. My acocunt on here named Trump locked itself out
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:13 AM - Paradox: its cause hes a disgustingly bad president
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:14 AM - Paradox: even the empires forum gods dont want him
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:14 AM - Paradox: and we had mr die
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:32 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: Who's Mr die?
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:45 AM - Xyaminou: don't ask
    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:46 AM - Xyaminou: god I had forgotten how boring "regular" Empires can be. Holy shit that fucking heavy spam...
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:01 AM - Spike: MRDIE ?!
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:01 AM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:01 AM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM - Spike: this guy
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM - Spike: [​IMG]
    Apr 16, 2017 at 4:41 AM - BigTeef: remember to drop buildings infront of lawliet when commanding at all times
     
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    Apr 16, 2017 6:28 AM - Spike: also remember to get teef stuck on top of a camera when hes commanding ^_^
    Apr 16, 2017 2:18 PM - Vdragon: empires the burgah king
    Apr 16, 2017 2:26 PM - Ranger: Eating only 6 balls of icecream cause I'm on diet.
    Apr 16, 2017 3:22 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: LUL i eat 2 when i'm hungry
    Apr 16, 2017 3:37 PM - Xyaminou: damn it's slow today, fucking holidays.
    Apr 16, 2017 3:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm telling you, empires players are christians
    Apr 16, 2017 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: it's an invasion
    Apr 16, 2017 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: they're everywhere
    Apr 16, 2017 3:39 PM - Xyaminou: run for your life
    Apr 16, 2017 3:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: more like an exodus really
    Apr 16, 2017 3:40 PM - Ranger: today its orthodox easter
    Apr 16, 2017 3:45 PM - Vdragon: uh , wot, i have emp_cap_model in my hammer, but not emp_cap_point
    Apr 16, 2017 3:47 PM - Vdragon: ah, nevermind, just me using hammer bad
    Apr 16, 2017 3:54 PM - Vdragon: and now emp is crashing without a log wew lad
    Apr 16, 2017 4:01 PM - Vdragon: so what stupid thing did i forgot that would make empires go 'buffer overflow' on me, by having started a map in hammer?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when exactly do you get the buffer overflow message?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:09 PM - Vdragon: when starting the mapin the game
    Apr 16, 2017 4:09 PM - Vdragon: i don't get a message, i get a BEX error, which meazn buffer overflow
    Apr 16, 2017 4:10 PM - Vdragon: the minimap and the mtod show up, then crash
    Apr 16, 2017 4:17 PM - Vdragon: mkkayyyyy
    Apr 16, 2017 4:17 PM - Vdragon: closed hammer
    Apr 16, 2017 4:18 PM - Vdragon: reopened hammer, recompiled map, now that dfoesn't crash anymore
    Apr 16, 2017 4:19 PM - Vdragon: literal majiks
    Apr 16, 2017 4:21 PM - Xyaminou: tada
    Apr 16, 2017 4:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh you're on linux right?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:27 PM - Vdragon: hammer doesn't work on linux...
    Apr 16, 2017 4:29 PM - Vdragon: so, npc_zombie doesn't work in emp, right?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:29 PM - Xyaminou: nothing works on linux
    Apr 16, 2017 4:29 PM - Vdragon: frree bag of dick with mr.X bought
    Apr 16, 2017 4:30 PM - Vdragon: oh yea 'attempted to create unknown entity type npc_zombie! Can't init npc_zombie L'
    Apr 16, 2017 4:30 PM - Vdragon: sad
    Apr 16, 2017 4:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: NPCs are WIP at the moment, hit up vulcanstorm if you want deets
    Apr 16, 2017 4:38 PM - Vdragon: well... not going to ask for stuffs for a thing i'll probably never finish lol. Does monster_generic have AI tho?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:39 PM - Kidpaler: I dont think AI exists in Empires besides what is being added by Vulcan/Thexa
    Apr 16, 2017 4:39 PM - Kidpaler: So, no. I don't think so.
    Apr 16, 2017 4:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm not 100% in the know but i believe right now NPCs are not going to work
    Apr 16, 2017 4:39 PM - Vdragon: well at least it makes for a fun target: http://i.imgur.com/6NJ1fsd.jpg
    Apr 16, 2017 4:39 PM - Kidpaler: I believe if you spawn those in on multiplayer, it crashes the game
    Apr 16, 2017 4:40 PM - Vdragon: does 'multiplayer' include local server?
    Apr 16, 2017 4:41 PM - Kidpaler: Ermmm, can't remember. I know someone tried spawning in a dropship on a map once and it crashed
    Apr 16, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: should work in multiplayer
    Apr 16, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: might get issues if you shoot it though
    Apr 16, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: or if you damage it
    Apr 16, 2017 4:43 PM - Thexa4: it damages you*
    Apr 16, 2017 5:22 PM - Vdragon: do info_npc_spawn_destination not work?
    Apr 16, 2017 5:25 PM - Kidpaler: No, the whole NPC thing is being re-written
    Apr 16, 2017 6:06 PM - Thexa4: Think that should work, is it broken?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:36 PM - Xyaminou: what happened to the population, there were like 20 before I went to dinner.
    Apr 16, 2017 7:37 PM - Ranger: I guess you ate them
    Apr 16, 2017 7:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well obviously you shouldnt eat
    Apr 16, 2017 7:37 PM - Ranger: The map is urbanchaos
    Apr 16, 2017 7:37 PM - Ranger: Change to canyon and build turret bases for two hours
    Apr 16, 2017 7:39 PM - Xyaminou: nah, I only do that once a day
    Apr 16, 2017 7:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: turret bades every day? my my, i wouldn't believe it if anyone else told me
    Apr 16, 2017 7:45 PM - Señor_Awesome: Gotta water your turret farm once a day
    Apr 16, 2017 7:47 PM - Paradox: water them with dissapointment and resentment towards your team
    Apr 16, 2017 7:47 PM - Paradox: then burry them in flames
    Apr 16, 2017 7:47 PM - Paradox: flame em all day
    Apr 16, 2017 7:48 PM - Xyaminou: I meant at most once a day, meaning I alraedy built turret farm today on drygulch, so not again.
    Apr 16, 2017 7:53 PM - Ranger: Like serioulsy what is this steep player drop
    Apr 16, 2017 7:53 PM - Ranger: Nobody wants to play tonight?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:53 PM - Xyaminou: super sunday holiday
    Apr 16, 2017 7:55 PM - Ranger: I'm confused. Is catholic easter on the same day with the orthodox this year?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:55 PM - Ranger: Oh shit it is. That explains it. I thought it was next week.
    Apr 16, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: ?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:56 PM - Xyaminou: isn't easter just easter?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:57 PM - Xyaminou: just another excuse to not work and see your family friends?
    Apr 16, 2017 7:57 PM - Ranger: It's the day I eat a lot.
    Apr 16, 2017 7:58 PM - Xyaminou: considering your earlier statement about ice cream isn't it every day? :p
    Apr 16, 2017 7:58 PM - Xyaminou: although, every holiday is the day you eat a lot to be honest
    Apr 16, 2017 7:59 PM - Xyaminou: family gathering or how to eat for 24 hours in a row
    Apr 16, 2017 8:00 PM - Señor_Awesome: on holidays like this should force family into empires to populate server. *duck tape may be required
    Apr 16, 2017 8:01 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 16, 2017 8:01 PM - Xyaminou: also PUG in 30 minutes
    Apr 16, 2017 8:01 PM - Xyaminou: git gud
    Apr 16, 2017 8:03 PM - Señor_Awesome: I think Spike actually got the EST/PST conversion wrong in the thread title?
    Apr 16, 2017 8:04 PM - Señor_Awesome: so I thought it was 1 hour + 30 minutes but if I click the local time link it gives me 30 minutes
    Apr 16, 2017 8:06 PM - Xyaminou: don't know, the BST is right is all I know
    Apr 16, 2017 8:07 PM - Ranger: On which server?
    Apr 16, 2017 9:30 PM - complete_: i wonder how many people got the wrong time
    Apr 16, 2017 10:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: plenty did
    Apr 16, 2017 10:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=907090616
    Apr 16, 2017 10:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=907090887
    Apr 16, 2017 10:37 PM - MartinPL: Damn i completely forgot you have this PUG thing... Good luck everyone of you!
    Apr 16, 2017 10:37 PM - BigTeef: "The map isn't going to crash the server." -Spike 2017
    Apr 16, 2017 10:37 PM - BigTeef: As the server switches to a map nobody can download through the steam client
    Apr 16, 2017 10:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's still going! join up!
     
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    Apr 17, 2017 11:55 AM - Ranger: I will never
    Apr 17, 2017 2:25 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: have you lot ever heard of the Battle of Athens in 1946?
    Apr 17, 2017 2:32 PM - Xyaminou: I don't do history
    Apr 17, 2017 2:35 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: long story short, a Tennessee county goes corrupt, WWII vets came back and said "fuck this" caused a rebellion during elections
    Apr 17, 2017 2:37 PM - Xyaminou: what does this have to do with athens, and more importantly why do I care?
    Apr 17, 2017 2:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well there's a town called Athens, county seat of McMinn county. anyways i was just bored and had nothing better to do
    Apr 17, 2017 2:38 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: that's where the "batlle" happened
    Apr 17, 2017 2:38 PM - Xyaminou: talk about Empires balance, that always bring a lot of conversation
    Apr 17, 2017 2:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: im not doing that again. last time i did that it caused a big argument between two guys
    Apr 17, 2017 2:42 PM - Xyaminou: oh really, I wonder who they were... :p
    Apr 17, 2017 2:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: oh yeah you were on of them
    Apr 17, 2017 2:48 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: one*
    Apr 17, 2017 2:50 PM - Xyaminou: accusations! you have no proof, you'll never take me alive!
    Apr 17, 2017 2:55 PM - flasche: you know if you say athens we probably consider the original athens
    Apr 17, 2017 2:56 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: sorry i guess i should have elaborate
    Apr 17, 2017 3:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hi im at a christening party i hear someone said empires balance
    Apr 17, 2017 4:00 PM - Paradox: does xya even english
    Apr 17, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: I just remembered why i never put my ideas on the forums...
    Apr 17, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: cause they are shit?
    Apr 17, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: #rekt
    Apr 17, 2017 5:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: if you think he actually bad with english, you haven't seen how i spell
    Apr 17, 2017 5:00 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i spell like a fucking lawnmower
    Apr 17, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: God you guys are just fucking hopeless
    Apr 17, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: Calling me a conservationist for changing the fucked up red and yet when i give a good idea you change a shitty mechanic you're fucking crying
    Apr 17, 2017 5:08 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: well i wasn't trying to mess with you
    Apr 17, 2017 5:10 PM - CRITAWAKETS: im pissed
    Apr 17, 2017 5:10 PM - CRITAWAKETS: extracting the music from Master of Orion 1
    Apr 17, 2017 5:10 PM - CRITAWAKETS: is WORSE than SC3
    Apr 17, 2017 5:10 PM - CRITAWAKETS: even if you extract it the music is usually a tiny bit corrupt!
    Apr 17, 2017 5:13 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: how the hell are you even able to extract stuff out of a dos game?
    Apr 17, 2017 5:15 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Ripping the XMI file and then converting it to MIDI
    Apr 17, 2017 5:15 PM - CRITAWAKETS: and usually converting the MIDI to MP3
    Apr 17, 2017 5:15 PM - CRITAWAKETS: theres a small problem too
    Apr 17, 2017 5:16 PM - CRITAWAKETS: There isnt a tool that converts XMI that works on something other than MS-DOS
    Apr 17, 2017 5:33 PM - Xyaminou: alright server is back online
    Apr 17, 2017 7:07 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: Some idiot in band locked himself in between locker doors
    Apr 17, 2017 7:11 PM - flasche: why dont you just rip one of the plenty uploads from youtube?
    Apr 17, 2017 7:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 17, 2017 8:04 PM - Xyaminou: ah yes the round I won
    Apr 17, 2017 8:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the round i lost us, more like... 12:20
    Apr 17, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 17, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: that barracks was never built btw
    Apr 17, 2017 8:11 PM - Xyaminou: 0.5s from being built
    Apr 17, 2017 8:15 PM - Xyaminou: you should get engy binds btw
    Apr 17, 2017 8:16 PM - Xyaminou: also not much communication in NF, damn.
    Apr 17, 2017 8:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can never get used to the binds other than recycle walls
    Apr 17, 2017 8:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: like, you'll see me FSD and FSA my team instead of using a bind
    Apr 18, 2017 1:04 AM - Sgt.Security: Well I do that all the time, not like it hurts.
    Apr 18, 2017 1:09 AM - VulcanStorm: FSA is like a bind though? Just a 3 part one
    Apr 18, 2017 1:09 AM - Sgt.Security: From tha video, BE was a little stacked, just a little bit, can be outplayed. If Destroyer's squad secured South just 1 minute earlier by playing more efficiently and then headed for middle like, dead straight, we'd probably see a different game.
    Apr 18, 2017 1:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah, as discussed earlier, i blame my bad decisions
    Apr 18, 2017 1:13 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: basically bad calls and small mechanical errors that added up
    Apr 18, 2017 1:30 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Apr 18, 2017 1:51 AM - Paradox: I just watched it ddd, a mistake I saw was that the engieners werent flanking with the walls
    Apr 18, 2017 1:51 AM - Paradox: u were pushing up with the walls and just halting at a certain point
    Apr 18, 2017 1:51 AM - Paradox: you need to make a flank circle movement towards their rax
    Apr 18, 2017 1:53 AM - Smithy: 15m20s
    Apr 18, 2017 1:56 AM - Paradox: 2630-2930 tactics boys
    Apr 18, 2017 1:58 AM - Paradox: holy fuck, at 20 seconds before game ends theres an apc south chasing me I Tell people, AND NOONE KILLS IT. Fuuuuck
    Apr 18, 2017 2:34 AM - Sgt.Security: Does anyone else notice that the comm name is still green right before death?
    Apr 18, 2017 2:35 AM - Sgt.Security: Oh sudden death nvm
    Apr 18, 2017 2:35 AM - Sgt.Security: Shouldn't be skipping.
     
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    Apr 18, 2017 at 10:45 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah we had walls in north but their placement was off, they didnt let us advance in cover and kept us exposed to smithy and apcd
    Apr 18, 2017 at 10:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we also should have gotten a camera behind the rax and attempted anotjer on the frontline, but there was a lot of mortar fire coming so idk if it would have worked
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:13 PM - BigTeef: Please do not discuss content of this nature on our site. This does not follow our rules. Your message may have been removed or altered. Your account's access may be limited based on these actions. Please keep this in mind when posting or using our site.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:13 PM - BigTeef: Lol, now I remember why I stopped bothering with the fourms
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lol, you got a warning when all the other shit is stlil left out and stinking? ^^
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:21 PM - BigTeef: Whatever, you fucks cant stop me from playing the game. Censorship has never fixed anything.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:50 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Apr 18, 2017 at 1:58 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: so how is the french doing with this election coming up?
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:04 PM - Xyaminou: don't know, don't want to know.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:31 PM - Ranger: I dreamed I was playing Killing Floor 2 on hell on earth in real life oh my god
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:37 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: are you ok?
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:38 PM - Xyaminou: did you win?
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: my video games are 50/50, i'm either a badass or my gun shoots rubber pellets that bounce off of everything doing nothing
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: video game dreams*
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:42 PM - Ranger: I don't know. I probably died.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:43 PM - Ranger: I'm already dead inside </333333333333333333333333333
    Apr 18, 2017 at 2:46 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: he probably thought he got a high score, and went to his computer to see if it saved for real
    Apr 18, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Ranger: no i was playing a game. i was being chased. it was a spooky nightmare
    Apr 18, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Ranger: intense
    Apr 18, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Xyaminou: note: emp_snowbound and emp_research's minimaps need to be redone they're 512x512 instead of 1024x1024
    Apr 18, 2017 at 4:44 PM - !@zy(!z@r!) = Lazylizard: new active empires group join if you like http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197983435440/groups/
    Apr 18, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Ranger: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WDTEmpiresServer *****
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM - Xyaminou: damn shoutbox
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: now everyone will see my derp
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: Hardcore Empires PUG #1: Sunday 23th April 19:00 (UTC)
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Xyaminou: wow even that has a derp 23rd*
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:29 PM - Ranger: Im confused
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:30 PM - Ranger: Can you rename a thread?
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:34 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:37 PM - flasche: but you used UTC all will be forgiven
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Major Cleve Cutler: i'll try to join in but i can't guarantee it
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: It's funny that in all the commanders guide and tips I've read no one talks about shifting the pressure which is probably one of the most important things when directing a team.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Xyaminou: it's also the N°1 reason a team loses in higher pop games.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 5:58 PM - Xyaminou: like that game on mesa the other day...
    Apr 18, 2017 at 8:02 PM - complete_: im upset because i feel like i missed a hilarious bigteef post
    Apr 18, 2017 at 8:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd give it a solid 7/10
    Apr 18, 2017 at 8:22 PM - BigTeef: posting a picture of a belt with a child in the background broke fourms rules, you diden't miss anything.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 8:22 PM - BigTeef: Not my rampant cursing
    Apr 18, 2017 at 9:59 PM - Ranger: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:03 PM - Xyaminou: Added 4 infantry maps to my server, because Empires is dead.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:04 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nuclear or do i keep going with the riot?
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: conquest maps*
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Sgt.Security: Riot squad is here.
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this is a self-contained riot, no need for force
    Apr 18, 2017 at 11:08 PM - Ranger: REEEEEEEEEEE
    Apr 19, 2017 at 12:31 AM - Kidpaler: Put on Nuclear.
    Apr 19, 2017 at 12:37 AM - complete_: its pronounced nucular
    Apr 19, 2017 at 12:37 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you're a nucular
    Apr 19, 2017 at 3:17 AM - BigTeef:
    Apr 19, 2017 at 3:18 AM - Kidpaler: Was that the one that Simpson hijacked it and went crazy?
    Apr 19, 2017 at 4:21 AM - Major Cleve Cutler: I have no idea how I did it, but I've some how managed to bend my phone
     
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