The easiest scout buff that might make him slightly more useful

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  1. Lightning

    Lightning Member

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    i'm thinking also from a new players perspective, they don't have the thousands of hours poured in people like us do, that and my dispraxia means im site with the SR in CQC

    in terms of changes, im probably gunna do a general class change thread properly when i wake up. ill include my scout rifles changes.
     
  2. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Removing it is a good start.
     
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  3. Spike

    Spike Long Live The King!

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    If you want a better scout rifle i suggest you use that the current one is terrible then give the scout about 3 or 4 clips in reserve.

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        // Sounds for the weapon. There is a max of 16 sounds per category (i.e. max 16 "single_shot" sounds)
        SoundData
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            "single_shot"            "IMP_ScoutRifle.Fire"
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  4. Spike

    Spike Long Live The King!

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    1. give scout EMP grenades to disable turrets temporarily (concussions already do that just remove the blinding effect)
    2. remove hide (it encourages stuipidity)
    3. take ranged rifle off scout and give it to riflemen
    4. give scout light machine gun and remove it from rifleman

    The correct way to use scout early game is mainly running up to the enemy's forward barracks sabotage it then run inside trying to kill as many infantry units as possible this will make the barracks easier to kill and also make the infantry easier to kill due to them all now spawning with half health.

    And late game mainly getting into a jeep with a engineer going round the map and killing buildings and refinery's. You can also sticky stun heavy tanks later on in the game disabling them for a short period of time so it is much easier for your team to kill. And off course scout is good for sticking the enemy commander for a ninja.

    Scout is actually a very useful class however its only good in some circumstances and many people have no idea how to use the class correctly.
     
  5. Lightning

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    hide should be changed for a skill that disables turret targeting when crouched or prone, or even just walking.

    OH and remove weapon suppressor because it serves no practical purpose, its easily by passable with a server plugin (killed by name here sorta thing). change that for a faster reload skill
     
  6. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    I will say that weapon silencer was rendered pretty useless (not fully, just largely) by that plugin. Too bad it's so ingrained into the game now that it will not get removed despite tampering with game mechanics.
     
  7. Devourawr

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    Years later and binoculars still can't give infantry and vehicle TARGETS to his squad.
     
  8. Avatarix

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    Yeah, the binocs serve exactly one purpose that is spotting for artillery (if you actually have arty in the field). Would be hella useful for directing a squad full of armored vehicles.

    As far as I know we can't get "faster reload" until we get someone who knows how to work on animations.

    a fucking LMG on a scout? that's contradictory as fuck (machine guns are for SUPPORT units, so it'd rather suit engi than scunt)
    and nono, concussions are really damn cool as the only way to CC enemy infantry in the game
    removing or at least nerfing hide would be cool tho, maybe just change to Radar Hide (while sneaking can't be detected by radars/cameras/turrents) ?
     

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