★UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2016★

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  1. Donald Trump

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    Apologies, was not my intention. I changed it a bit to reflect that I'm not agreeing that you're a hypocrite.
     
  2. vipervicki

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    ok thank you I appreciate that.
     
  3. A-z-K

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    You don't have to care, but you should because it all matters. No countries is an island in today's world, very least your own.
    I can understand why you find it a bit foreign (pardon the pun), culture and history over this side of the pond is much more intertwined and it isn't seen as odd to have your finger on the pulse of what your neighbours are doing. America a big place and there is a lot less visibility towards the rest of the world - but that doesn't mean it isn't related, especially given how many interests, embassies and military bases the US has abroad.

    Since the end of the war Europe looked to America for lots of things and we prefer to look West than look East and a weak dollar is a very grave concern for the world economy.

    That's why people take an interest - well partly, some people just want to poke fun at the pantomime of it all.
     
  4. Donald Trump

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    And the reason Trump is doing so well is because Americans are fed up with globalism. Even internal DNC documents have shown globalism is losing us jobs and it has been linked to wage stagnation. The US used to have a strong economy, but under the Obama administration our growth has stagnated, jobs have gone overseas, and companies seem to be taking advantage of the working class more and more. American's are starting to care more about their own country than the world, and that is why Trump does well, because he promises America a brighter future while giving the F U to big businesses and foreign countries who exploit our politicians and jobs.

    As Trump says, Americanism not Globalism.
     
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  5. flasche

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    speaking of hypocracy, maybe he should start bringing jabs back then ...
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    ... oh no wait, its to expensive to produce there.

    well i assume tax cuts for the wealthy will change that ...

    ... not.

    it btw is a misbelieve that politics can create jobs*.
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    *except for civil servants
     
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  6. Donald Trump

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    Ahh, that infamous made in china Trump hat. Did you know that is a cheap knockoff? I actually own a hat and it says Made in America...

    His other clothes are made in China, which is good business. Why? Because to compete, you have to make it for cheap... something he said he wants to fix. He wants to place tariffs on foreign products to make American labor once again competitive.

    Also, have you even looked at his tax policy either?

    Brackets & Rates for Married-Joint filers:
    Less than $75,000: 12%More than $75,000 but less than $225,000: 25%More than $225,000: 33%

    Basically, its a tax reduction across the board, but the wealthy still pay more.
    Why is this important? Cause everyone keeps saying that he is raising it on the middle class when in fact, he doesn't want to in the slightest. He has also stated that those making below a certain amount will pay 0% in taxes. He is also on record stating that he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class, he would raise it on the upper class should the need arise.
     
  7. flasche

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    lemme fix that

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    not enough? google image search is full of that. and from an enterpreneur perspective it would be dumb not to produce abroad where there are lower enviromental, lower employment and lower social standards which means you can produce for a fraction of the costs.
     
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    I specifically said the hat, and way to read my post because I acknowledged his other clothes are made overseas where the labor is cheaper to have competitive product... he wants to tariff those goods coming from other countries so our labor is as competitive as foreign labor, which indirectly would create jobs or at least protect what we have.
     
  9. flasche

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    a fourth of your exports go to china and mexico, he will do shit all.
     
  10. vipervicki

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    there is a reason for that flasche thank the left winged dingbats and Washington establishment for that.
    trump is exactly why trump needs to be elected. He was on both sides of it all and he knows the BS that goes on and he is manufacturing his goods in China because of what the dems did. He knows all about it and why he is the one to fix it.
     
  11. flasche

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    poor trump is forced to produce where unit labor cost is lowest, sure.

    and once you put tariffs on products from abroad you can bet the other countries will do the same. ofc europe will happily jump in to deliver high tech goods at a way more "attractive" price. actually, yeah, go trump!

    btw you trade balance was more negative before obama came into the white house. bush was a rep wasnt he?
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade
     
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  12. vipervicki

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    I said Washington establishment as well..
    Bush was more a dem than rep, that's what started the anger with republicans from the American people, and why we have trump as nominee. All the bush's are voting for Hilary they have always had close ties with the Clintons :(
     
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    omg - trump our savior, how can you guys be so blinded :facepalm:
     
  14. vipervicki

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    because we know the truth about Hilary, and anyone who wants her elected obviously knows very little about her thanks to MSM. wanting Hilary over anyone is totally blinded or doesnt know the facts.
     
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    Yes, because let us not try to fix the issue at hand, let us continue to let people exploit it and sign even more disastrous trade deals like the TPP to send even MORE jobs overseas and give corporations even MORE power.

    Yea, but you see, Trump wants to put tariffs on countries where the labor is extremely cheap... Europe doesn't have much cheaper labor. Specifically what Trump wants to put tariffs on is companies who were in the US, but then moved overseas FOR the cheap labor, or countries that export us material that is also produced domestically but can't compete at their prices. Europe isn't the focus of what Trump is saying, that would be Mexico, China, Vietnam, Malaysia etc.

    Yea, fuck Bush. He was a shitty president as well. Both sides of the aisle are globalist assholes who are profiting off their political moves.
     
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    Concern is growing over revelations that voting machines in a significant number of states could be linked to a company tied directly to billionaire leftist George Soros and his personal quest to create a nationless, borderless global state.

    The U.K.-based Smartmatic company posted a flow-chart on its website that it had provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona. Smartmatic Chairman Mark Malloch-Brown is a former U.N. official and sits on the board of Soros' Open Society Foundations. Since the story first broke, the flow-chart has disappeared from Smartmatic's website, raising further questions about the real status of the Soros-tied voting equipment and whether it is truly being deployed in U.S. elections

    According to a spokesperson for the National Association of Secretaries of State, Smartmatic is not on a list of federally certified providers for election systems and that officials in several states' have contested that their equipment came from Smartmatic. Why, then, had Smartmatic bragged about providing over 50,000 voting machines for U.S. elections?

    Leaked emails courtesy of WikiLeaks have shed further light on the deeply incestuous relationship between Soros and high-level Democratic Party players. The discovery that a man who may have provided voting equipment to 16 states is tied directly to the man who has given millions of dollars to the Clinton campaign and various progressive and globalist causes will surely leave a bad taste in many voters' mouths.
     
  17. flasche

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    and only trump our savior will redeem us from the evil of capitalist production - because this is the very logic of "the markets" - praise the messiah.

    god itd be so incredibly funny if this wouldnt be real - no comedian could come up with that.
     
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    trump is far from ideal but look what the heck we have to choose from, this is the worst and most disliked choices in the history of the USA. But I still prefer anyone over a murderer, liar and criminal as my next president.
     
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    Another reason among many not to vote for Hilary...she wants to keep obamacare
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5182638139001/the-unravelling-of-obamacare/
    Obama administration confirms double-digit premium hikes

    WASHINGTON – Premiums will go up sharply next year under President Barack Obama's health care law, and many consumers will be down to just one insurer, the administration confirmed Monday. That's sure to stoke another "Obamacare" controversy days before a presidential election.

    Before taxpayer-provided subsidies, premiums for a midlevel benchmark plan will increase an average of 25 percent across the 39 states served by the federally run online market, according to a report from the Department of Health and Human Services. Some states will see much bigger jumps, others less.

    Moreover, about 1 in 5 consumers will only have plans from a single insurer to pick from, after major national carriers such as UnitedHealth Group, Humana and Aetna scaled back their roles.
    Consumers will be faced this year with not only big premium increases but also with a declining number of insurers participating, and that will lead to a tumultuous open enrollment period," said Larry Levitt, who tracks the health care law for the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

    In some states, the premium increases are striking. In Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark "second-lowest cost silver plan" will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
     
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    "He's been divorced and remarried. He can't commit to anything."
    "He's dangerously ignorant about international affairs. The Russian leaders will walk all over him."
    "He has no filter- doesn't think before he speaks."
    "Until recently, he was a Democrat. He's not a real Republican. He hasn't paid his GOP dues."
    "He's a loose cannon. No one wants HIS finger on the nuclear button."
    "His opponent has the experience and political savvy to be president. He does not."
    "He's just not presidential."
    "His temperament disqualifies him from ever being Commander-In-Chief."
    "He's proven himself to be mentally unstable."
    "The military will never accept him as Commander-In-Chief. He's not smart enough."
    "His intellect is thinner than spit on a slate rock."
    "After all his gaffs, he doubles down on them instead of admitting he made a mistake."
    "He's threatening to upend our treaties and relationships with our allies by demanding that they pay for their own defense!"
    "Because of his gross factual errors he might take rash action and needlessly lead this country into open warfare!"
    "He's racist, xenophobic, and fuels the fires of hatred!"
    "The fact that he could be deemed a serious candidate for president is a shame and embarrassment for the country."
    "Is he Safe? ...he shoots from the hip ... he's over his head ... What are his solutions?
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    Sound familiar? You've heard this all about Donald Trump, right?
    Try Again. All this was said of Ronald Reagan in 1976 and 1980
     
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