Tropicvendetta bug investigation.

Considering that Empires is free and doesn't require you to own a game on to steam to work,
you could just create a new account and use it to debug Empires.

 

So you're just gonna leave it on a version that crashes because "oh I can't track down the bugs because they're not reproduceable". Great.

 

reverting is bad because somehow being able to realize when you've made a mistake is a bad personality trait

 

Looks to me it's equally (if not more) constructive to fix the problem itself than reverting.

Yes we've made a mistake somewhere and we are trying to fix it.

 

The thing is, thats not what hes implying.
What lamer is saying is, why not revert the game for the time being and you guys get on the fixing part. And when its fixed you re release. That way we get a non broken game, and you get your constructive problem fixing.

Lamer is saying its kinda dumb to keep the broken game and wait for you to fix it. Whilst its perfectly ok and smart even to revert and give you all the time you need to fix.
If you keep it unfixed people will just complain until its fixed.


tldr dont strawman ma homie

 

And apparently game breaking crashes and bugs are not enough to make you "have to" revert. So I can't imagine a case where you will EVER revert.

I am all for fixing the problem, BUT, until it's fixed, DON'T MAKE US PLAY A VERSION THAT IS BROKEN! REVERT!

I have played on dozens of early alphas of games, and whenever they release something that is THAT BROKEN, they roll it back, fix the crashes, and re-release it.
That is how it's always be done that is what any man with even a lick of common sense would do. You can't expect to gain any respect from the community when you deliberately shoot us in the foot and say "oh it's okay" while we're bleeding out.
(yes it's a terrible metaphor but since you don't seem to understand when I say it plainly we're down to metaphors now.)

 

It doesn't take us just 10 minutes to release a patch. (If you didn't know, now you know.)
You have to revert things, release the patch and then release again when things are fixed.

For this bug, remove broken maps temporarily is far more efficient than reverting the patch, if you just don't want to see the problem. (and then devs can work on them)

 

Then you as the dev team should make an official statement telling server owners to remove the maps?

 

We have.
It's not like we have 20 server owners, Wired has removed the map, X is right here, Misfire is on the team.

 

No, just no, don't tell me reverting takes you over an hour. I know it doesn't, I'm not gonna sacrifice half my maplist because you guys refuse to take an hour to revert.

Tracking down every map that has grass sprites and therefore a possibility of crashing would take longer than it takes you to revert.

Not to mention this is far from being the only game breaking bug, should I remind you about the vehicles falling through the map? should I remove vehicles as well? play infantry maps only?

Stop making us pay for YOUR mistakes, fucking hell.