AMD's Fury and the future of the enthusiast GPU

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by iMacmatician, Jun 17, 2015.

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Which of the AMD products announced today are you most excited for?

  1. The R9 Fury X

    5 vote(s)
    41.7%

  2. The R9 Fury

    5 vote(s)
    41.7%

  3. The R9 Nano

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%

  4. Project Quantum

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%

  5. The R9 390/390X

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%

  6. Other

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
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  1. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    But due to being on an old process, they literally couldn't make the chip big enough to properly use all of that lovely new bandwidth. A new process next year will solve that problem entirely.

    But aside from that, Nvidia also made the 980 ti a lot less cut down than what was anticipated and they made it a lot cheaper to boot.

    So between amd being handcuffed by their interposer and Nvidia being more aggressive than expected, it's an honest toss up on both performance and price.

    concerning performance, we don't have independent reviews yet, but amd released some benchmarking that didn't put the fury x in a very dominating position. And after considering amd's inherent bias with game choice and setting choice, I think it's fair to say that it's a situational toss up.

    The only thing that might be in the favor of amd is overclocking. Based on pure speculation, the fury x will probably overclock like a boss due to its water cooler and abundance of stock memory performance. So you only need to overclock the SPs and there's probably a lot of headroom.
     
    ImSpartacus, Jun 22, 2015
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  2. iMacmatician

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    At least the 8 GB isn't useless for the press slides! :D

    [​IMG]

    (I was half expecting the 970's bar to be 3.5 GB instead of 4 GB.)

    That may indeed be the case. I decided to estimate TITAN X performance in the above benchmarks by looking at existing 4K 980 Ti vs. TITAN X benchmarks, taking the (TITAN X)/(980 Ti) ratios, and then multiplying the lengths of the 980 Ti bars by those ratios. Since I used different sites (TPU mainly) and wasn't picky on settings, take my results with a grain of salt. Sniper Elite 3 is excluded because I couldn't find any relevant benchmarks for that game.

    Inequalities:
    • Fury X > TITAN X: 6 of 11
    • TITAN X > Fury X: 5 of 11 (note that when the Fury X wins, it tends to win by a larger margin)
    Geometric means:
    • (Fury X)/(980 Ti) = 1.08
    • (TITAN X)/(980 Ti) = 1.05
    • (Fury X)/(TITAN X) = 1.03
     
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    iMacmatician, Jun 22, 2015
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  3. McGyver

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    You would tell us if you had won the lottery, won't you?
     
    McGyver, Jun 22, 2015
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  4. Beerdude26

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    No

    I haven't won it unfortunately
     
    Beerdude26, Jun 23, 2015
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  5. McGyver

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    So, you state that if you had won the lottery you would NOT tell us. Then you proceed not telling us. You are basically confirming that you have won the lottery.

    CONGRATULATIONS BEERDUDE! Don't forget your friends here in the Empires community! Maybe you can organize an Empires con in some East European brothel?
     
    McGyver, Jun 23, 2015
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  6. Beerdude26

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    bro do you even modus ponens
     
    Beerdude26, Jun 23, 2015
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  7. McGyver

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    Good morning gents,

    Only five and a half hours left until the NDA on Fury X reviews expires! It will be exciting to see if it can beat the 980Ti at 4K and max settings.
     
    McGyver, Jun 24, 2015
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  8. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Bullshit review:
    Embargoes? What embargoes?
     
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    ImSpartacus, Jun 24, 2015
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  9. Beerdude26

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    Hmm, not very impressive. I might just go for a R9 295x2 instead, it's 700€ right now. Or perhaps for a GTX 980 Ti? AAAAH, DECISIONS
     
    Beerdude26, Jun 24, 2015
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  10. ImSpartacus

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    Don't jump the gun before you see more noteworthy reviews, but yeah. This isn't the second coming of Christ.
     
    ImSpartacus, Jun 24, 2015
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    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Cards why you no progress in 2 years
     
    Z100000M, Jun 24, 2015
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  12. McGyver

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    Oh please, did you really had to post this absolutely bullshit review where the OC Fury is slower than the vanilla? Let's just wait for legit sources.
     
    McGyver, Jun 24, 2015
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  13. ImSpartacus

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    [​IMG]
     
    ImSpartacus, Jun 24, 2015
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    McGyver, Jun 24, 2015
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    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I know we're having fun goofing around and all, but let's get real for a moment. Until the tech report releases a review that properly looks at frame times instead of fps averaged over a second, then it's all shit.

    295x2 routinely has pretty bananas fps and goes for only a penny or two, but it's all stuttery and shit so it's useless.

    I'd rather take higher average frame times of it means less stuttering. And every gamer with a pair of human eyeballs will pretty much agree.

    EDIT So this is embarrassing...

    EDITx2 Now I'm doubly sad. I think we need some driver updates because this ol' girl just ain't getting it done. It's stutter city out there.

    [​IMG]
     
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    McGyver, Jun 24, 2015
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    All those reviews are deceiving, I excepted the fury X to be at least on par with the 980 Ti, if not more powerful :/
     
    Vdragon, Jun 24, 2015
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  19. ImSpartacus

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    It's the 2900xt all over again. The sky is falling.
     
    ImSpartacus, Jun 24, 2015
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  20. McGyver

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    Maybe we get a price-performance king with the air-cooled Fury (without X).
     
    McGyver, Jun 24, 2015
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