Plasma Cannon

support, although uhm, what are the extras of a singularity engine? :S

 

flasche:
The research issue can be easily solved by decreasing cost and time for plasma.
Currently values:
Superheated Material Physics (400 / 60s)
Plasma Cannon Projectile (400 / 60s)
Plasma Bullet Projectile (325 / 60s)

For a support weapon it should be:
Superheated Material Physics (200 / 30s) --> includes Plasma Cannon and Bullet




But the whole discussion is useless because no developer has the balls to change plasma completely.

 

problem is with plasma, especially cannon.. if u miss ur shot, ur pretty much screwed. because at that point ull either 1) overheat before the bad guy or 2) u stop firing and flee and u might die.

i actually wouldnt mind using salvo + plasma MG (not rail + plasma MG cause over heat too fast). if it worked.. to stop people from running away.

i guess the only other alternative is to reduce research time/cost.. like what others said above and elsewhere. or place it somewhere convinient so its not out of the way to get..

 

I don't think that physics will become more popular with plasma. But this can only be balanced after watching the changes for some weeks.

Plasma cannon and MG have high heat to your own values to make these weapon useless (typical Empires balancing).
I think that heat weapons can work, if they have a long reload time (like nukes).

 

As I mentioned in my suggestion for the Plasma MG (http://forums.empiresmod.com/showthread.php?t=13445) I think that it is no problem if support weapons are used rarely.

For example the new plasma APC can be used on slaughtered when you already have researched everything and a large number of heavies are fighting.
One or two of these APCs in the background will give infantry a spawn point (not everybody want to drive a tank) and can overheat a certain tank. Your teammates can take out this tank and so slowly push forwards.

 

I agree with flasche...although I would do, haha. If the devs ever want someone to look into the tech tree format, I have many free hours that i'd be happy to devote to making some concepts.

/offtopic

 

I don't think that we will have a completely new research system for Empires because it's too much work to balance.
And beside of this I like the current tree. There are always many different research paths for every map which can lead to victory.

 

It's not too much work, actually. You can balance it pretty easily on cost and time to research all on it's own. The most difficulty comes from how things perform in-game, which seems to change each version.

The current tech tree does not lend itself to diversity, but the current balance is pretty good - except bio being strong and reactive being the most often counter. I see no one getting HEMG recently, which is a shame...'cos that tech tree doesn't have a good armour/engine atm, so it's a little neglected.

 

how about when your vehicle is destroyed it creates a vortex and hurts every thing around it

 

so a weapon that screws ur own teammates?

 

yes....But just think what you could do by driving into the enemy base and letting them destroy your vehicle.So it has pros and cons

 

Specific script shit gets rejected.