Fix the wall creation exploit

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  1. CobaltBlue

    CobaltBlue Member

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    I hope this is already on the fix list somewhere, but just in case it's not...

    It is a well known fact that mini walls don't affect an engineers wall limit, and so one engineer can waste lots of time and make lots of walls.

    I suggest a system that incorporates the mini walls into the limit. Small walls cost 1 wall point, full walls cost 3 wall points, and instead of starting with 10 wall points engies would start with 30, and all current increments would be like-wise tripled.

    Pros: Fewer Exploits.

    Cons: Fewer Exploits.
     
    CobaltBlue, Mar 28, 2009
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  2. Dawgas

    Dawgas Banned

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    they don't?

    what the fuck
     
    Dawgas, Mar 28, 2009
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  3. Maxaxle

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    That IS pretty weird. But they should cost somewhere between 1/4 and 1/5 the cost of a wall.
     
    Maxaxle, Mar 28, 2009
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  4. CobaltBlue

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    They are exactly 1/3 the length, so they should have 1/3 the cost. This preserves the wall limit number as a constant limit on length.
     
    CobaltBlue, Mar 28, 2009
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  5. blizzerd

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    so this is why i sometimes am able to build larger wall constructions then other times...
     
    blizzerd, Mar 28, 2009
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  6. PwnedYoAss

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    NO! Don't take away my fortresses.
     
    PwnedYoAss, Mar 28, 2009
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  7. Roflcopter Rego

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    Mahti's wall spam is always so lulzy...

    But yeah, this should be done tbh.
     
    Roflcopter Rego, Mar 28, 2009
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  8. mr_quackums

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    or just simply count them as 1 wall.
     
    mr_quackums, Mar 29, 2009
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  9. Roflcopter Rego

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    what? no way, that would be so anoying. The whole point is to make a standard length, that would just make them shorter because of a mistake. or just not knowing that it existed or worked like that.
     
    Roflcopter Rego, Mar 29, 2009
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  10. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Why don't you just call this thread ruin Mahti's wallspam :'(
     
    Trickster, Mar 29, 2009
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  11. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    This is one of the most wonderful features of Empires, DO NOT REMOVE!
     
    Fricken Hamster, Mar 29, 2009
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  12. Jessiah

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    Fixed.
     
    Jessiah, Mar 29, 2009
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  13. Roflcopter Rego

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    server variable emp_sv_count_miniwall default to 0, but mean server admins can change it to 1. Your problem, it is fix't!
     
    Roflcopter Rego, Mar 29, 2009
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  14. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    oh yeah, and removing this will kill CTF
     
    Fricken Hamster, Mar 30, 2009
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  15. CobaltBlue

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    It will help to FIX the CTF mod, reducing the amount of dicking around and also reducing the amount of stalemates.
     
    CobaltBlue, Mar 30, 2009
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  16. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    Then all the games will just be teams rushing to get jeeps out and caping the flag because now you can't block. Stalemates are fun and will be broken eventually. Wall block creates awesome long complicated and well thought out plans to capture the flag without completely obliterating the other person's base.

    also
    ASDFDSAGADFASFASDFASGSDFAS
     
    Fricken Hamster, Mar 30, 2009
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  17. Drag

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    Oh, so much interest in this, beerdude said he's gonna look if he can find out why this bug happens. AND THEN MURDER IT
     
    Drag, Mar 30, 2009
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  18. Beerdude26

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    Perhaps I'll murder it tomorrow
     
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  19. DrummerX

    DrummerX Empires Tyrant

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    I like the idea of miniwall counting for 1 while the full wall counts as 3. The CTF mode can be modified to allow more wall spamming by a simple server cvar change.
     
    DrummerX, Mar 31, 2009
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  20. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    but what about mazes protecting the comvehicle in normal games?
     
    Fricken Hamster, Mar 31, 2009
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